The long waited device have been annouced, and it was worth waiting. A 5.8" gorgeous display powered by a 10nm processor, a whole new UX and tons of other features. So what do you think about it ? Her you can talk about anything related to the Galaxy S8, enjoy guys ! :good:
I was hoping for that 1000fps camera rumor but it seems that was shot down, camera seems to be the same as in the s7.
That screen though... simply stunning.
I didn't see any mention of the sub pixel array, still pentile?
There is a Chinese site that claims there is a China-exclusive Galaxy S8 boasting 6GB worth of RAM. How likely is this to be true, given that the west will be receiving 4GB RAM variants? If this is true, I don't think I will buy the 'western' variant, rather I'd be looking to get China's exclusive 6GB edition. What are your thoughts?
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I was hoping for that 1000fps camera rumor but it seems that was shot down, camera seems to be the same as in the s7.
That screen though... simply stunning.
I didn't see any mention of the sub pixel array, still pentile?
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Even though they didn't mention it, alot of sites are saying it'll shoot ultra-slow motion at 1000fps. Just because it wasn't mentioned does not mean it is inherently non-existent.
Source sammobile "According to a report by Naver, the Galaxy S8′s camera can record 1000fps videos, and the company has achieved this by adding DRAM (used as buffer memory) into the camera sensor itself. Sony’s recently unveiled the Xperia XZ Premium with a 19-megapixel camera sensor (IMX400) that uses a similar technique to capture 960fps slow-motion videos at 720p, but our sources tell us that the Galaxy S8 won’t use the same sensor."
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There is a Chinese site that claims there is a China-exclusive Galaxy S8 boasting 6GB worth of RAM. How likely is this to be true, given that the west will be receiving 4GB RAM variants? If this is true, I don't think I will buy the 'western' variant, rather I'd be looking to get China's exclusive 6GB edition. What are your thoughts?
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Even though they didn't mention it, alot of sites are saying it'll shoot ultra-slow motion at 1000fps. Just because it wasn't mentioned does not mean it is inherently non-existent.
Source sammobile "According to a report by Naver, the Galaxy S8′s camera can record 1000fps videos, and the company has achieved this by adding DRAM (used as buffer memory) into the camera sensor itself. Sony’s recently unveiled the Xperia XZ Premium with a 19-megapixel camera sensor (IMX400) that uses a similar technique to capture 960fps slow-motion videos at 720p, but our sources tell us that the Galaxy S8 won’t use the same sensor."
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It's not using Sony's new sensor, it's using same sensor as S7 so definitely no 960+ fps
omgggg this is so ugly haha same **** again even the s7 edge is better than this crap but waiting for the oneplus 5 that will be a bomb
Up to 10% in cpu and 21% in gpu is disappointing considering a switch to 10nm. The A10 got a lot more over A9 last year without a process improvement.
I think I'm going to hold or pass.
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I was hoping for that 1000fps camera rumor but it seems that was shot down, camera seems to be the same as in the s7.
That screen though... simply stunning.
I didn't see any mention of the sub pixel array, still pentile?
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Somewhere I read something about 4k at 60fps. That would be an indication that this is not the same sensor as the s7
Soufiansky said:
The long waited device have been annouced, and it was worth waiting. A 5.8" gorgeous display powered by a 10nm processor, a whole new UX and tons of other features. So what do you think about it ? Her you can talk about anything related to the Galaxy S8, enjoy guys ! :good:
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There is new camera software and an 8MB front facing camera - the new software is something many DSLR and Digitial cameras have - multi-shot or something like that - camera takes multiple pictures of the same photo very quickly and processes them together to get a better reproduction - helps in low light photos particularly - that is a bad description for what I think will be an awesome addition...can't wait - just hope I can pre-order a G950F Variant here in the US.
Any idea if the speaker has been improved over the s7?
I read a couple of articles that said there would be stereo sound/speakers and they did this by making the earpiece speaker the 2nd speaker.
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Even though they didn't mention it, alot of sites are saying it'll shoot ultra-slow motion at 1000fps. Just because it wasn't mentioned does not mean it is inherently non-existent.
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Link?
htcplussony said:
Up to 10% in cpu and 21% in gpu is disappointing considering a switch to 10nm. The A10 got a lot more over A9 last year without a process improvement.
I think I'm going to hold or pass.
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I believe apple makes they're own cpu's from the ground up, samsung/qualcomm simply take pieces from arm and modify it slightly, the snapdragon 835 is an a53 + a slightly modified a72/a73 core, the exynos is probably based on the same thing.
What about development of this device? AOSP roms?
What's new in kernel version 4.4.16? And some benefits aganist 3.10?
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What about development of this device? AOSP roms?
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There's lineageos for the exynos s7 so i'm sure it'll come out for the s8... seems a lot of stuff is working, that's surprising.
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There's lineageos for the exynos s7 so i'm sure it'll come out for the s8... seems a lot of stuff is working, that's surprising.
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True but imo its still not suitable for daily usage
I pre ordered one I do wish Samsung put stereo speakers on the front of the device but as long as what they got now is as loud as the note7 i'll be ok. The finger print scanner looks like it's in a not great spot but i'm not to worried about that since I use my smart watch to keep my phone unlocked
Let's get this thing rooted and going as soon as possible. I worry Samsung will make everyone's life harder with locked bootloaders and other bad surprises we may find along the way. But I'm looking forward to have the hardware in my hands soon and start the boogie
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I pre ordered one I do wish Samsung put stereo speakers on the front of the device but as long as what they got now is as loud as the note7 i'll be ok. The finger print scanner looks like it's in a not great spot but i'm not to worried about that since I use my smart watch to keep my phone unlocked
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I think they are relegating the Finger print unlock method. They don't see it as the future of security. It's becoming just an optional extra. That's why they are pushing Iris scanning and a more advanced face unlock method. It should be quicker. We will see.
What size is the SIM card?
Do you still have to make the first calls with a SIM card from the country you bought it from?
Thanks
Any words about a new Audio Amp and DAC to match HTC one?
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Do we got anything on the M9? Maybe January release ?? Anybody know anything. Hoping for optics improvement,ois. HTC is always pretty tight lipped.
I myself hope they upgrade memory to 3 gigs. That and just a bit bigger screen would be cool too.
5.5inch display is the rumor.
Looks like I'll be getting the mini, LOL.
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5.5inch display is the rumor.
Looks like I'll be getting the mini, LOL.
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Yeah I'm with you on that...I feel like anything past 5.2 is just to big.
The only 5.5" device I've heard about, is the HTC One Max Sport with 18mp ois camera.
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The only 5.5" device I've heard about, is the HTC One Max Sport with 18mp ois camera.
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as I said only a rumor, it's based off the fact that the M8 Prime was rumored to be 5.5inch.
I believe it will be in the range of 5.2-5.3 though
Focus on software improvements on the M8.
Everyone complains about the camera, but it's the best smartphone camera I've ever had and I had a iPhone 5S for a minute.
For me the screen is the perfect size.
The only thing I would want to see in a future phone is a bigger battery. If this thing had a bigger battery 2 days would be doable. As it is now the battery is amazing, but it could get better.
chowner said:
Focus on software improvements on the M8.
Everyone complains about the camera, but it's the best smartphone camera I've ever had and I had a iPhone 5S for a minute.
For me the screen is the perfect size.
The only thing I would want to see in a future phone is a bigger battery. If this thing had a bigger battery 2 days would be doable. As it is now the battery is amazing, but it could get better.
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I agree camera is good but until u zoom in even just 2x zoom quality goes to crap instantly! I say work on that,bigger battery, more ram, 805 chip, call it a day.
deeznuts said:
I agree camera is good but until u zoom in even just 2x zoom quality goes to crap instantly! I say work on that,bigger battery, more ram, 805 chip, call it a day.
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You should never zoom on a cell phone camera. Just my thoughts. It's just a digital zoom and you always be better off to capturing everything the lens sees. Do your adjustments post
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Do we got anything on the M9? Maybe January release ?? Anybody know anything. Hoping for optics improvement,ois. HTC is always pretty tight lipped.
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Wow that would be amazing where you hear rumor on that. Interested for a Read . I they scrapped the Prime but I see it coming back into play with the release.
Still Hoping for January.
There is the M8 Eye, which is the same as the M8 but with a 13mp camera.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...ing-new-high-end-13-megapixel-rear-camera.htm
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5.5inch display is the rumor.
Looks like I'll be getting the mini, LOL.
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Lol that's a good one. .
andybones said:
5.5inch display is the rumor.
Looks like I'll be getting the mini, LOL.
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If its 5.5 sign me up now just pack it with a 2.5 quad core & 3 gigs of memory. Would be nice if they could get the 8 core processor. I will have to look up the m9 rumors but its really to early to have any seriousness to them.
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There is the M8 Eye, which is the same as the M8 but with a 13mp camera.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...ing-new-high-end-13-megapixel-rear-camera.htm
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Yea Been seeing this coming big Question I have is about Optical Image Stablization thats my biggest gripe. I love everything else but hoping HTC is working on IOS
Kane5581 said:
There is the M8 Eye, which is the same as the M8 but with a 13mp camera.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...ing-new-high-end-13-megapixel-rear-camera.htm
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Wow how many M8 are there going to be? Next will be the "M8 Ram." Exactly the same as the original M8 but with 3mb of ram instead of 2 which is why we call it the M8 Ram, lol!!! Love to waste money HTC does.
Yes I hear ya put the new camera on the M9
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Wow how many M8 are there going to be? Next will be the "M8 Ram." Exactly the same as the original M8 but with 3mb of ram instead of 2 which is why we call it the M8 Ram, lol!!! Love to waste money HTC does.
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Dam our original m8's should have come with 3 gigs of memory instead of 2. I could really use 3 over 2.
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Yes I hear ya put the new camera on the M9
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I dont know what everyone is complaining about the camera for, I have had 6 m's, 2 at&t and 4 verizon and for me they have all taken good pics I have no complaints about the m8 camera. I think many just complaim because its a low pixel number but thats because its an ultra pixel and not a mega pixel. I think most complain about it just because of a lower pixel number and not about the actual performance of the standard m8's camera.
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Dam our original m8's should have come with 3 gigs of memory instead of 2. I could really use 3 over 2.
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I dont know what everyone is complaining about the camera for, I have had 6 m's, 2 at&t and 4 verizon and for me they have all taken good pics I have no complaints about the m8 camera. I think many just complaim because its a low pixel number but thats because its an ultra pixel and not a mega pixel. I think most complain about it just because of a lower pixel number and not about the actual performance of the standard m8's camera.
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My biggest problem is no optical image stabilization fix that and I'm happy
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My biggest problem is no optical image stabilization fix that and I'm happy
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Never had any issue I just take about 4 or 5 pics of the same and pick the best one, that has always worked for me.
I find this thread VERY depressing as I still have almost 3 years of payments on my current M8. <sigh>
FWIW, I've had an old Blackberry that took much better pics than the M8 (or my Samsung Galaxies but the best camera phone I had was actually a camera with a phone stuck on, a Samsung FlipShot! It was a fairly decent phone and a GREAT little portable camera.
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-sch-u900/
Of course, these are totally obsolete 3G phones but they DID take great pics, proving again the megapixels have very little to do with picture quality.
I was wondering is it there possibility to port or replace camera library with S6 to somehow get less oversharpening in auto mode.
Any ideas ? tnx!
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I was wondering is it there possibility to port or replace camera library with S6 to somehow get less oversharpening in auto mode.
Any ideas ? tnx!
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No it's not
I guess direct porting wouldn't work since they have got a different camera and platform, so you have to adjust the profiles based on what is available on S7(I can't guid you how unfortunately), but it should be better to stick with manual mode, to unsharpen an image a bit. I know it is over sharpened in Galaxy S7 and they even do that on Note7 too. I think they are not going to change it on any future software update since camera is adjusted based on their logic.
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I guess direct porting wouldn't work since they have got a different camera and platform, so you have to adjust the profiles based on what is available on S7(I can't guid you how unfortunately), but it should be better to stick with manual mode, to unsharpen an image a bit. I know it is over sharpened in Galaxy S7 and they even do that on Note7 too. I think they are not going to change it on any future software update since camera is adjusted based on their logic.
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Thank you for response! I just watched some compared tests between Note7 camera and S7 it's seams that note7 has a less sharpening and more natural look.
Maybe solution is in using note7 files ?
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Thank you for response! I just watched some compared tests between Note7 camera and S7 it's seams that note7 has a less sharpening and more natural look.
Maybe solution is in using note7 files ?
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That difference might not be necessary caused by a different tuning, but different sensor. Like, all the Exynos variant of S7 had ISOCELL( by Samsung), but Note 7 uses IMX260(by Sony) on Exynos variant too. So when comparing 2, you have to consider that too. In term of porting files, I believe it will work if you can tweak a file a bit as they've got a same platform, or once S7 gets an update with new UI, Note7 and S7 will have similar software(at least I believe) so it might be easier to do a direct porting if you wait for that software. Or you could simply use Note7 Port ROM on S7 too? There should be many ways of doing it. All your best.
It's definitely not the sensor. RAW mode proves that. It's the post-processing of JPGs that adds the sharpening. So it would seem there's at least a slight possibility of a dev solution.
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Lookup member @zeroprobe
He/she has been doing some S7 camera modding. Might be able to help.
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Thank you for response! I just watched some compared tests between Note7 camera and S7 it's seams that note7 has a less sharpening and more natural look.
Maybe solution is in using note7 files ?
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I watched a video comparing Note 7, S7 Edge and Note 5. and in conclusion de Note 7 is the one who oversharps more, then the S7 and for last Note 5...
The S7 edge is on midle of both.
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I watched a video comparing Note 7, S7 Edge and Note 5. and in conclusion de Note 7 is the one who oversharps more, then the S7 and for last Note 5...
The S7 edge is on midle of both.
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Chek photo samples in this article >>> http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-7-vs-galaxy-s7-edge-712753/
Note 7 has less sharpening that edge "/
Yesterday i tried to make note7 camera apk - user apk... and i changed apk name ... apk installs as normal app and on launch FC.
I'm not rooted so i' cant get log for errors =(
Maybe some experienced devs can help to port Note7 camera as user apk for non-rooted users.
That's weird in my experience the S5 over sharpens images. It's the biggest complaint I've seen about S5s post processing. My S7 doesn't over sharpen which is why I like it. Even MKBHD agrees in his review. I wonder if some phones have different post processing in there libraries?
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That's weird in my experience the S5 over sharpens images. It's the biggest complaint I've seen about S5s post processing. My S7 doesn't over sharpen which is why I like it. Even MKBHD agrees in his review. I wonder if some phones have different post processing in there libraries?
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Never noticed any over-sharpening with my S5
Well either way I really hope we see more Samsung phones with this 2 Pixel technology. I love it.
BruteSource said:
Well either way I really hope we see more Samsung phones with this 2 Pixel technology. I love it.
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The dual pixel tech is just for focus afaik, the larger pixels are for better low light shots
I still think they should have kept the 16MP & 16:9
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That's weird in my experience the S5 over sharpens images. It's the biggest complaint I've seen about S5s post processing. My S7 doesn't over sharpen which is why I like it. Even MKBHD agrees in his review. I wonder if some phones have different post processing in there libraries?
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I think it's the different sensors. Some S7 models have the Samsung isocell sensor instead of the Sony IMX sensor.
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I think it's the different sensors. Some S7 models have the Samsung isocell sensor instead of the Sony IMX sensor.
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Oh okay. I thought it was a post processing thing.
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Oh okay. I thought it was a post processing thing.
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Sorry, to be clear, it is. But the different sensors are resulting in different sharpening intensities it seems, so probably programmed in the camera libraries.
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Sorry, to be clear, it is. But the different sensors are resulting in different sharpening intensities it seems, so probably programmed in the camera libraries.
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The dual pixel tech is just for focus afaik, the larger pixels are for better low light shots
I still think they should have kept the 16MP & 16:9
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Oh yes definitely was referring to the auto focus, sorry should have said not related to sharpening.. I just am in love with this camera. I've never enjoyed a camera so much on a phone and I think a big part is the dual pixel auto focus and the larger pixel size. Keep it Samsung.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S9+, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S9+ is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I am liking how snappy and smooth is S9+ is.
I loved the S8+, especially coming from a Note 4. I have the option to upgrade every 12 months and did so for the new camera and relocated fingerprint reader. Still love the S9+ but the 'wow' factor wasn't the same obviously.
Liking it so far besides the fingerprint sensor doesn't work properly on either of the 2 I purchased. Hopefully Samsung will get the bugs worked out soon.
currently liking it but almost identical to my previous s8 minus the new little feature gimmicks i got the purple one even I am a man because I want to be unique.
This is my first Samsung, and I have to say is the best phone I have ever had in my entire life.
For reference, my previous phones were a Mate 9 Pro, a Pixel 2 XL and the U11+.
Possibly one of the best android phones i've ever used design wise. Samsung software is nice but i never like getting pre-installed garbage i can't get rid off. Will however root soon...
This is just the perfect phone for me.
It comes with quite some beautiful design (Coral Blue)
Great screen, great camera for low light and slow mo, great performance (Exynos 9810) and 6GB RAM, great speakers, great biometric options, and the list goes on and on.
On the other hand, battery life is not as good as my previous phone (Galaxy A8 SM-A8000), and I hoped it is lighter and thinner like that phone.
Overall, this is just a special treat for me and I love it by my hearts.
P.S. I am glad I went for the Coral Blue S9+ UK 128GB Exynos variant, and it performs very, very well without breaking a sweat thermal wise (Snapdragon is known to heat up a lot more usually).
Also, since all the Snapdragon Samsung phones I had in the past had their motherboard toast after 2 years of usage or so, all my working Samsung phones are the more reliable Exynos (That A8 broke too with a broken display and unreliable battery, but mobo not toast yet) and I want to keep that trend of Exynos everything on my phones.
Waiting for mine in the mail right now. I'm currently using the note 4. Can't friggen wait, tired of the note 4 sluggishness
Also, I forgot to mention that I ordered my S9+ from clove on Feb 28th. The phones shipped March 6th, but clove did not get the coral Blue variant, so they ended up shipping my package on Mar 16th, only to get delayed by FedEx due to severe weather conditions as well as the exploding parcel in USA, with me finally getting my hands on it on March 22nd, and that is with me heading to the FedEx location and pickup myself. So yeah, due to this series of delays, I was getting too anticipated to get that parcel that I literally couldn't do anything properly for the past 2 weeks.
Anyways, I hope fellow ppl who still haven't received their packages to have better luck than what I have had.
Like the s9+ lookswise and camera.Hate it's battery life and choppy performance and.
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Like the s9+ lookswise and camera.Hate it's battery life and choppy performance and occassional warm behaviour.
Couldn't ask for anything more...
I love the design and the camera. SO GOOD!
This is the best device I could have got.
Guys do let me know how is the PUBG experience on you Exynos Samsung S9 plus.I am having a very hard time with the device, game has micro shutter and lag over a period of time.
the device doesn't overheat temperature will around 38-40* I am running it on HD+ resolution with balance settings and high frame rates.
Very dissatisfied with Samsung on this part.
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Guys do let me know how is the PUBG experience on you Exynos Samsung S9 plus.I am having a very hard time with the device, game has micro shutter and lag over a period of time.
the device doesn't overheat temperature will around 38-40* I am running it on HD+ resolution with balance settings and high frame rates.
Very dissatisfied with Samsung on this part.
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Well that's the Mali gpu drivers for you. Btw I am running android 9.0 pie beta (soilders rom on the s9+ section) The exynos 9810 mail GPU drivers has improved a bit. Getting slightly better performance and less throttling with the 9810 with 9.0 pie. So I guess wait a bit.
pros: best camera, look and feel (have the blue one without case), good performance, black themes
cons: battery could be better but is ok, major updates could be faster but can also live with that
fazit, best phone I've ever had
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Guys do let me know how is the PUBG experience on you Exynos Samsung S9 plus.I am having a very hard time with the device, game has micro shutter and lag over a period of time.
the device doesn't overheat temperature will around 38-40* I am running it on HD+ resolution with balance settings and high frame rates.
Very dissatisfied with Samsung on this part.
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This is totally not my experience. I use the Exynos GS9+ and I have none of the issues you just mentioned while playing PUBG. Yes the phone does overheat but that is normal for any device which is pushing it's limits. Coming to the performance I play on ultra high settings with anti aliasing turned on and I have never as much as felt a stutter. The battery does drain considerably, around 10-12% per game but I think it's okay since PUBG itself is very demanding. For reference my device is set on QHD+ resolution.
I would suggest you to check if some unwanted app is running in the background and actually hogging up resources as that has happened to me plenty of times on my previous phones. I'm more careful of what I install now.
Really like the One UI and the performace it provides since I came from the S7
I've become very unhappy with my Galaxy S9+. Foremost is the fact that I can't root it. (I have one of those US models that you can't root.) It's my phone. I bought it; I own it; it's mine. I should be able to do anything I want with it. I tried to write a script to backup my SD card to a USB stick, but I don't have permissions to run it. Being a professional programmer, that really irks me.
Then there's all the bloatware. I disabled over 200 packages of stuff I don't want and don't need. Sorry, but I'm not going to be part of the Samsung culture - not a fan.
Samsung is acting just like Apple. "This is the way we want to you use your phone, and you don't have a choice." Well, I do have a choice - to dump Samsung. The OnePlus 7 is coming out next week, and I'm 'deep six'ing Samsung.
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Just realized the OnePlus slogan is "Never Settle". My sentiment exactly. I'm not going to settle for Samsung's hubris and disdain.
According to this article all the rear cameras has ois and not just one as Huawei informed us about. Are they trying to make their AI software looking better than it actually is? All other phone makers would have bragged about ois on all three cameras
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...pro-optical-image-stabilization-triple-camera
easycure1974 said:
According to this article all the rear cameras has ois and not just one as Huawei informed us about. Are they trying to make their AI software looking better than it actually is? All other phone makers would have bragged about ois on all three cameras
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...pro-optical-image-stabilization-triple-camera
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If that's true why is their 4k recording so shaky?
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If that's true why is their 4k recording so shaky?
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Yes is seems very strange - it will be interesting to read more about this
lawtq said:
If that's true why is their 4k recording so shaky?
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Hardware is useless, if the software haven't being configured to use it.
I hope huawei add the stabilisation to 4K mode soon
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Hardware is useless, if the software haven't being configured to use it.
I hope huawei add the stabilisation to 4K mode soon
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Why do you think they haven't already? Cause the 970 isn't capable. Hopefully they do though. This phone would be exciting if it wasn't for the old chipset! Sigh
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Why do you think they haven't already? Cause the 970 isn't capable. Hopefully they do though. This phone would be exciting if it wasn't for the old chipset! Sigh
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Well it's not really old, end of 2017. It's definitely powerful enough. Just not as powerful as Qualcoms latest on paper and in benchmarks. That's to be expected though. Even much older less powerful chips can handle 4k with ois.
There is nothing on android that can even push the SoC's from 3 years ago. The hardware is just way ahead of the software. It's all a race to get the best looking specs on paper now, regardless of whether it's actually needed or not.
In my own testing the P20 Pro is just as quick in pretty much anything other than benchmarks, which in real life usage mean nothing. Its all about the user experience. There isn't a game to push the latest hardware and won't be even towards the end of life of all these new gen devices.
Not sure why they didn't include it. The hardware is more than capable.
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Well it's not really old, end of 2017. It's definitely powerful enough. Just not as powerful as Qualcoms latest on paper and in benchmarks. That's to be expected though. Even much older less powerful chips can handle 4k with ois.
There is nothing on android that can even push the SoC's from 3 years ago. The hardware is just way ahead of the software. It's all a race to get the best looking specs on paper now, regardless of whether it's actually needed or not.
In my own testing the P20 Pro is just as quick in pretty much anything other than benchmarks, which in real life usage mean nothing. Its all about the user experience. There isn't a game to push the latest hardware and won't be even towards the end of life of all these new gen devices.
Not sure why they didn't include it. The hardware is more than capable.
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Good points! I hope you're right. 1080p ain't enough anymore
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According to this article all the rear cameras has ois and not just one as Huawei informed us about. Are they trying to make their AI software looking better than it actually is? All other phone makers would have bragged about ois on all three cameras
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...pro-optical-image-stabilization-triple-camera
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I really hope that they add the stabilisation to 4k videos because now is terrible... And videos shot in full HD look very poor quality...
If hardware is on board I don't want to be cheated by Huawei
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Why do you think they haven't already? Cause the 970 isn't capable. Hopefully they do though. This phone would be exciting if it wasn't for the old chipset! Sigh
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This is simply not true. 970 is almost as capable as 2017 exynos and snapdragon.
But honestly. I've been living around thousand people everyday, and i find, there's less than hundred of them would record video on daily basis,
And when they did, they either do it in 1080 or 720.
Why ? Because most of it would end in social media. And uploading something as huge as 4K simply wont do for most people,
Not to mention most of phone out there which used to watch the video later on are mostly still on full HD resolution as well.
I understand the argument from people who said they shoot it to be watch on their 4K TV. But they are not majority in the community.
Heck, i even can count with my finger, how many times i have recorded a video using my mobile phone from january last year up to today. LoL. Am simply a "still image" guy
Thats why,
As bad as missing 4K stabilisation in spec sheet, it wont have that as huge impact in daily life user.
But, surely thats bad for marketing communication. And reviewer will use it again and again as a weak point.
I shoot videos occasionally but only in 1080p regardless of which phone or camera I use.
It's just amateur video for my personal view not for commercial so no point to waste space.
Regarding there being nothing that even taxes older SoCs to their limits - anyone who does emulator gaming can tell you there certainly are use case scenarios that do. My Mate 10 handles a lot of emulation well enough, but the likes of Dolphin are better on better performing SoCs nevertheless (this is not all down to raw power though, how well drivers are implemented also makes a difference, however most mobile drivers are rubbish across the board, so the brute force of higher chip speeds is welcomed here).
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And when they did, they either do it in 1080 or 720.
Why ? Because most of it would end in social media. And uploading something as huge as 4K simply wont do for most people,
Not to mention most of phone out there which used to watch the video later on are mostly still on full HD resolution as well.
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Exactly this, most video is used for social media now, where it gets compressed to helll and viewed on tiny screens. There is no real need to push for 4K recording and those that really want it will probably buy dedicated recorders or a gimbal.
Btw the super slo-mo on this is good! Saw Diversity at the weekend, apologises for the shake at the start, daughter was bouncing up and down lol
https://twitter.com/DaveP2611/status/983071212984299521
@DaveP2611 quick question about the slow-mo, how do you actually setup the device for slow mo recording?
Is is similar to older Samsung devices where you record a video using the slow mo function and then select which part of the video to slow down and by what ammount?
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Is is similar to older Samsung devices where you record a video using the slow mo function and then select which part of the video to slow down and by what ammount?
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@DaveP2611 quick question about the slow-mo, how do you actually setup the device for slow mo recording?
Is is similar to older Samsung devices where you record a video using the slow mo function and then select which part of the video to slow down and by what ammount?
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It's an option within the camera, under More, you then have a Slow-Mo option, under x4/x8 there doesn't seem to be any recording length limit, the x32 seems to be a snapshot of ten seconds and picks when it slows down itself as seen in the clip I posted.
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply!
Shame you can't pick out the section of the video you want to slow down at x32. It's one of the things I think my note 4 did well despite only having x8 slowmo capture.
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Awesome, thanks for the quick reply!
Shame you can't pick out the section of the video you want to slow down at x32. It's one of the things I think my note 4 did well despite only having x8 slowmo capture.
I really think that all the stabilization in pictures is done via OIS and they just claim it’s the magic of AI just to use that as a differential marketing advantage.Maybe AI is not so smart / cutting edge...
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I really think that all the stabilization in pictures is done via OIS and they just claim it’s the magic of AI just to use that as a differential marketing advantage.Maybe AI is not so smart / cutting edge...
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Thats not really the case as well, since by using it to shoot, i can definitely tell that sometimes, there simply no OIS. OIS movement will always seen in preview prior to shoot. You can see it move the picture to the opposite direction of your hand movement. And when there's no feedback/counter movement, you can tell that no OIS in action.
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Well, and an AI isn't an AI if it isn't intelligent.
That's marketing for you.
They simply named their Auto-Mode to AI-Powered because they managed to implement a few "new" things that don't work properly for what it was intended for (shooting good pictures from the hip).
I mean it's not like there were things like Dual Pixel AF and Laser AF were invented for no reason ... and they work most of the time (for what they were made for) unless the manufacturer ****s really up.
Now I can die happly. Especially knowing that they haven't even enabled OIS for the photos AND video.
I would have never guessed some manufacturer to **** up so badly ... let's see if they will ever "fix" or even "admit" it.
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It's more amazing you would jump to conclusion so easily.
https://www.anandtech.com/comments/12633/cadence-announces-tensilica-vision-q6-dsp/596655
Look in the comments section. Wait for the full review if you want to know all the technical details.
All that that tear-down showed is that the modules have an auto-focus mechanism. Just because the lens wobbles doesn't mean it's OIS.
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Just go to the shop and try it out and make up your own minds instead of following what people complain nonstop on the internet. The echo chamber is ridiculous. The 1080p video stabilization for example is amazing trying it in person, the most likely reason they aren't doing it on 4k is that the hardware is not capable of doing it.
I'm not sure the kirin 970's isp is powerful enough, or have the bandwidth, to stabilize 4k. I imagine it would be there if it was possible.
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I am deciding this phone between s20ultra. I have noticed a problem on oppo find x2 pro which is the refresh rate on this phone ain't running on 120hz constantly. Which app can run 120hz constantly? I uses youtube instagram chrome facebook reddit etc
Do they support 120hz refresh rate? I have tried the display unit, youtube seems laggy while scrolling even comparing with 60hz display. Have it been fixed? Thank you.
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I am deciding this phone between s20ultra. I have noticed a problem on oppo find x2 pro which is the refresh rate on this phone ain't running on 120hz constantly. Which app can run 120hz constantly? I uses youtube instagram chrome facebook reddit etc
Do they support 120hz refresh rate? I have tried the display unit, youtube seems laggy while scrolling even comparing with 60hz display. Have it been fixed? Thank you.
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I assume you've actually enabled the feature to have 120hz running at all times instead of the default "auto switch" setting?
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I assume you've actually enabled the feature to have 120hz running at all times instead of the default "auto switch" setting?
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Yes but seems not helping any which is quite disappointing for me with that gorgeous display which is better in my eyes compare with s20ultra but cannot be benefited from the high refresh rate while scrolling.
Unsure of the issue you encountered , had my oppo Friday and all above apps you mention work fine 120hz (not tried Reddit)
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Unsure of the issue you encountered , had my oppo Friday and all above apps you mention work fine 120hz (not tried Reddit)
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What version is it? Do you feel it is not smooth on youtube while scrolling compare with S20 ultra?
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What version is it? Do you feel it is not smooth on youtube while scrolling compare with S20 ultra?
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Smooth as butter , re version ?
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Smooth as butter , re version ?
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I have tried the display models, which the display may not have been update the system. I am going to try it again later. Furthermore , do you feel like the speakers' vocals are a bit muffled and not as loud as the competitors?
I can only comment / compare against my previous S20+ but for me the speakers are much better in this phone and provide more clarity. Samsung's I found were quite tinny maybe not as loud either, the oppos were also more balanced.
This phone is hands down 100 times better then the "Can't Focus On a Galaxy S20 Ultra". Even without Qi charging, which would have made this the phone of year IMO, it runs circles around the Ultra. Here's why:
1. Auto focus is super fast and accurate. Way better camera setup than S20 Ultra. 108MP? Really? You can't focus using it and the 100x zoom is a joke. The pictures and video out of this phone are legit.
2. Super VOOC charging. You won't miss Qi wireless charging. Super charging or any other charging. All you need know is 100% in 15 minutes. You can see it go up a percentage basically every 10 seconds or so. Plugging in never felt so good.
3. Dual SIM that works and is best in class in compatiablity to essentially ever band used globally. I mean this thing even works on Verizon in the US. Get the Thailand or Malaysia version CPH2025 with dual SIM, 512 GB and 12GB RAM. Still cheaper than the Ultra.
4. 120 GHz refresh and QHD at the same time. Like others said, it works and is easy to setup.
5. It's not a Samsung. Enough said.
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This phone is hands down 100 times better then the "Can't Focus On a Galaxy S20 Ultra". Even without Qi charging, which would have made this the phone of year IMO, it runs circles around the Ultra. Here's why:
1. Auto focus is super fast and accurate. Way better camera setup than S20 Ultra. 108MP? Really? You can't focus using it and the 100x zoom is a joke. The pictures and video out of this phone are legit.
2. Super VOOC charging. You won't miss Qi wireless charging. Super charging or any other charging. All you need know is 100% in 15 minutes. You can see it go up a percentage basically every 10 seconds or so. Plugging in never felt so good.
3. Dual SIM that works and is best in class in compatiablity to essentially ever band used globally. I mean this thing even works on Verizon in the US. Get the Thailand or Malaysia version CPH2025 with dual SIM, 512 GB and 12GB RAM. Still cheaper than the Ultra.
4. 120 GHz refresh and QHD at the same time. Like others said, it works and is easy to setup.
5. It's not a Samsung. Enough said.
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Agree with most of that except the zoom at 10x is no where near as good as the ultra. Also after updates there's no issues with autofocus at all now literally none. Just as fast as my note 10, and with my snapdragon s20 ultra I get literally double the battery life of the Oppo. I'd be getting 8hrs SOT in 120hz. With 1080p and 120 im like to get just over 5hrs which is pretty average.
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I can only comment / compare against my previous S20+ but for me the speakers are much better in this phone and provide more clarity. Samsung's I found were quite tinny maybe not as loud either, the oppos were also more balanced.
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S20 ultra speakers are definitely louder having both in front of me but the oppos are wider and clearer.
Yes and the phone isn't a brick in your pocket and you can literally top it off in like 10 mins or less at any point. Whether I finish the day with 15% or 30% makes no difference in my use. Neither phone is a 2 day phone. I can get all day performance @ QHD & 120HZ with my oppo. I've never had a problem even on a heavy use day with it. The fact that I can add 10% in literally minutes is great. I've never liked how Samsung phones take pictures. I've had plenty and tried to like them but really can't ever settle. I'd take an iPhone over a Samsung. That my own hang up I guess. I like my phone now. Doesn't mean I won't try something later. Vivo X50 Pro + looks promising especially if it comes out for the global market. Maybe I'll look at the Note 20 Ultra. It has some promise based on leaks. But really, it will probably just be more Samsung heartache
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Yes and the phone isn't a brick in your pocket and you can literally top it off in like 10 mins or less at any point. Whether I finish the day with 15% or 30% makes no difference in my use. Neither phone is a 2 day phone. I can get all day performance @ QHD & 120HZ with my oppo. I've never had a problem even on a heavy use day with it. The fact that I can add 10% in literally minutes is great. I've never liked how Samsung phones take pictures. I've had plenty and tried to like them but really can't ever settle. I'd take an iPhone over a Samsung. That my own hang up I guess. I like my phone now. Doesn't mean I won't try something later. Vivo X50 Pro + looks promising especially if it comes out for the global market. Maybe I'll look at the Note 20 Ultra. It has some promise based on leaks. But really, it will probably just be more Samsung heartache
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Find it hard to believe you get all day 120hz and QHD with the Oppo.. I haven't got close
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Smooth as butter , re version ?
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Agree with most of that except the zoom at 10x is no where near as good as the ultra. Also after updates there's no issues with autofocus at all now literally none. Just as fast as my note 10, and with my snapdragon s20 ultra I get literally double the battery life of the Oppo. I'd be getting 8hrs SOT in 120hz. With 1080p and 120 im like to get just over 5hrs which is pretty average.
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S20 ultra speakers are definitely louder having both in front of me but the oppos are wider and clearer.
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How about the immersive experience? I have heard that s20ultra got an update on dolby atmos, do you feel like it has improved? Before switching on the dolby atmos, s20ultra definitely sounds horrible for me. But after switching on, oppo's is a no match as s20 ultra gives a better immersive experience for me but with less bass. But as I have mentioned I have only tried both in the stores which is kind of a noisy environment with both phones not on the most update firmware. Have things improved on oppo find x2pro and s20ultra after several updates?
I have tried the display model. Youtube app can't use 120hz but the web version of youtube through chrome can. The speaker of oppo is better as it doesn't sounds annoying in the highs in the cinema mode of dolby atmos.
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I have tried the display model. Youtube app can't use 120hz but the web version of youtube through chrome can. The speaker of oppo is better as it doesn't sounds annoying in the highs in the cinema mode of dolby atmos.
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Both the app and vanguard run it fine , can't comment why store doesn't but as owner in telling you it's good .
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Both the app and vanguard run it fine , can't comment why store doesn't but as owner in telling you it's good .
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Are you using the chinese version or the global variant?
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Both the app and vanguard run it fine , can't comment why store doesn't but as owner in telling you it's good .
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Are you using the chinese version or the global variant?
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UK version , global.
It sounds to me you have your sights on the ultra.
For me in UK I tried the plus as mentioned but the exynos chip was useless I had it throttling within 7 minutes of YouTube dropping to 30fps which was a hard pull to swallow.
This and the green tint ... Then finding out refresh rate was he restricted made me return it. If it was a Snapdragon I might have kept it but honestly for me the oppo screen is better , sound is also better , software also and design.
I think the battery probably lasted longer on the S20 but the oppo has warp charge so not to bothered at the moment.
Camera I couldn't comment both seem good.
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UK version , global.
It sounds to me you have your sights on the ultra.
For me in UK I tried the plus as mentioned but the exynos chip was useless I had it throttling within 7 minutes of YouTube dropping to 30fps which was a hard pull to swallow.
This and the green tint ... Then finding out refresh rate was he restricted made me return it. If it was a Snapdragon I might have kept it but honestly for me the oppo screen is better , sound is also better , software also and design.
I think the battery probably lasted longer on the S20 but the oppo has warp charge so not to bothered at the moment.
Camera I couldn't comment both seem good.
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Actually after my hands on today, I am leaning towards oppo's more, it is just a hurdle for me to jump over to buy oppo instead of samsung. In my region it is sd chip which also makes me undecisive. I am also worried about the software update frequency of oppo after the first half of the year.
I jumped from a Note 10+ to the Find X2 Pro, don't regret it at all, ColorOS is less feature packed but almost feels minimalistic to me which is perfect because the whole phone experience just feels like lightning, not the tiniest hiccup
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Also for those worried about updates the Find X2 Pro is officially on the Android Enterprise Recommended list which guarantees 90 day security patches for 3 years & at least major OS update
https://androidenterprisepartners.withgoogle.com/device/#!/M9WwEAj545YkpTeQY9Ep