USB-C PD powerbank - Huawei Mate 9 Accessories

Are there any powerbanks available in the market that support USB-C PD charging?
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Machine_Head said:
Are there any powerbanks available in the market that support USB-C PD charging?
Thanks.
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https://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html

USB C accessories are in messy state at the moment. A lot of manufacturers are not following the USB C specifications and this can result in your damaging your hardware. You really need to do research when it comes to USB C cables and chargers. 5 star amazon reviews cant be trusted. I would always check Benson Leung and Nathan K for USB C accessories. And yes, a certain Apple USB C cable and USB C charger are found to be bad too according to Nathan K's list.
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378
Check his list of approved/rejected accessories:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/pubhtml#
Do not use "Quick Charge" chargers (the ones intended for Qualcomm devices) or Samsung's Adaptive fast chargers. These are bad for USB C according to Nathan K. https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/6q55iNEW6pg?sfc=false
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emann56 said:
https://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
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Lots of USB C battery packs out there, but "PROPERLY"tested USB C compliant battery packs are hard to find. I bought this one (the exact model you linked) before having a USB C device, and luckily it is compliant (but not perfect) as per Nathan K's review. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019IFIJW8
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/42BBBpWJtV4?sfc=false

Thank you very much for the helpful info. Sorry i do not have time to check, but according to the experts, what chargers are USB-C compliant and safe to use on our device?
Thank you.

Machine_Head said:
Thank you very much for the helpful info. Sorry i do not have time to check, but according to the experts, what chargers are USB-C compliant and safe to use on our device?
Thank you.
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Approved wall chargers:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...938000&usg=AFQjCNEq69NDwPvUZB78FtawZeUF28lZ2g
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...939000&usg=AFQjCNExx1pExO_uhXv7U-22tbEwOSuuQA
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...939000&usg=AFQjCNFLBW7NHWKL91FrOWUtQu110ZNS6g
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...940000&usg=AFQjCNFrqI4h92CAq1F8B5MJhy70QPhw_g
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...940000&usg=AFQjCNGt49SUpewr_J5D5DYJAOOaxz2t4A
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...941000&usg=AFQjCNEpr6tvFIihkyiug7qgohd1eg2y1A
Approved Powerbanks:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...963000&usg=AFQjCNER-EUNKeu2SqS6-fFIZtuEWbhWNg
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...963000&usg=AFQjCNHtKVMQWzPUE60tPjXqAMxt6C8vHA
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...964000&usg=AFQjCNEsbEAesbSoyLiXSAU5U7HeJDUPvQ
This is according to Nathan K's list of approved accessories. I am sure there are more approved chargers and cables but he just couldnt test every single charger/cable out there. Just check his google+ profile. I linked it in my previous post above. You will be surprised how other popular brands fail to comply and are actually dangerous for our USB C phones/devices

bimmerboii said:
Approved wall chargers:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...938000&usg=AFQjCNEq69NDwPvUZB78FtawZeUF28lZ2g
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...939000&usg=AFQjCNExx1pExO_uhXv7U-22tbEwOSuuQA
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...939000&usg=AFQjCNFLBW7NHWKL91FrOWUtQu110ZNS6g
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...940000&usg=AFQjCNFrqI4h92CAq1F8B5MJhy70QPhw_g
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...940000&usg=AFQjCNGt49SUpewr_J5D5DYJAOOaxz2t4A
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...941000&usg=AFQjCNEpr6tvFIihkyiug7qgohd1eg2y1A
Approved Powerbanks:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...963000&usg=AFQjCNER-EUNKeu2SqS6-fFIZtuEWbhWNg
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...963000&usg=AFQjCNHtKVMQWzPUE60tPjXqAMxt6C8vHA
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...964000&usg=AFQjCNEsbEAesbSoyLiXSAU5U7HeJDUPvQ
This is according to Nathan K's list of approved accessories. I am sure there are more approved chargers and cables but he just couldnt test every single charger/cable out there. Just check his google+ profile. I linked it in my previous post above. You will be surprised how other popular brands fail to comply and are actually dangerous for our USB C phones/devices
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Thank you very much for this very helpful info.

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*VERIFIED* & *TRUSTED* List of (USB-A to USB-C) cables and (USB-C to USB-C) Cables

*VERIFIED* & *TRUSTED* List of (USB-A to USB-C) cables and (USB-C to USB-C) Cables
I'm creating thread in a Q/A style so that y'all can contribute to the list.
The answers which earn the highest votes will become the most elevated answer... (hopefully that means this is the most trusted USB cable)
I am very bothered by the LIES we have been sold, specifically, buying USB cables which advertise USB Type-C Specifications, and then it turns out they are not USB Type-C Specifications.
Look at this review by Google Software Engineer, telling us about these Fake USB Type-C cables that many of us have purchased.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R1189CCK1UXGT5/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
Let us post trustworthy, verified, USB-C cables so that we know which ones are SAFE to buy...
Here are some recommended cables by Benson Leung himself (the first 7 listed here), Including other Trusted cables in list below:
1) http://www.monoprice.com/pages/usb_31_type_c
2) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnk
3) http://www.amazon.com/FRiEQ-Hi-speed-USB-Type-Cable/dp/B010EXRTXI/
4) http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Chromebook-MacBook-Compatible-Devices/dp/B00WJSPFOW/
5) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0119EIHTG/
6) http://www.amazon.com/Nekteck-Charging-Reversible-MacBook-OnePlus/dp/B00VIWE1ZY/
7) http://www.amazon.com/USB-Type-cable-USB-C-USB3-0/dp/B0162ISBEU
8) https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable
9) https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_usb_c
WARNING: Just because your USB cable charges your Nexus 6P, and the lock screen says 'Charging Rapidly', does NOT mean that the USB cable is configured to USB Type-C Specifications... This thread is only for verified or trusted sources from where we can buy USB Type-C Cables
Special Thanks to @xur17 for creating this website http://usbccompliant.com/
Please upvote, any other trusted, verified cables posted by commentators in this thread!
Apparently, even the One+ cables, despite being from a 1st party phone maker, even those are NOT using the correct USB Type-C configurations !!!!
as mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63653584#post63653584
@slickromeo
One+ cables are deliberately not following USB Type-C standards.
(As far as I'm aware) they are configured to work optimally with One+ products.
I have multimeter. Where exactly would one test to see if the resistor used in 56 kΩ?
I'd imagine one would have to cut open the connector and visually verify the existence of the resistor. I think there would be too much variables involved to just connect the multimeter to a couple of pins, but I could be wrong.
EDIT: NVM
Benson Leung1:30 PM
+Eric Hawkins Unfortunately since USB Type-C is such a new standard, at this point you sort of need some specialized equipment. I've been using this, which is publicly available on Amazon as well : https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/twinkie
If you have a Chromebook Pixel 2015 in dev mode, there's some simple terminal commands I can share that can verify if a cable is good or bad.
I'm going to work on seeing if there's anything I can do on the Android side as well, maybe a battery charging statistics app.
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If you discover a method to verifying these cables ourselves, which is easy enough for the average user, please let us know !
I'm confused on the One Plus cables - they say they are 2A cables on their website, not 3A. So if they are only pulling 2A and im using 1.8A blackberry charger, how is that harmful to my phone? I guess in other words, how can I still use the One Plus cable with a charger safely?
I have these cables http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...cm_cd_asin_lnk and I did not get the charging rapidy . Not sure if these work I will try again tonight or tomorrow. These cable worked fine http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0119DC9O6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00 with this charger http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0122P71FC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00
Hey guys I'm in the process of setting up a store specific to Type-C products (type-c.io - not up yet). I'm in talks with supplies from Asia about getting the correct cables and was wondering what would you guys pay for cables shipped from North America?
@xray49er when you say you got the cable listed at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnk and it did not rapid charge your Nexus 6P, where you using the stock charger included with your Nexus 6P ?
@xray49er
Edit #2, I Purchased a 5V/3A car charger that only charged at 1.7amps (false advertising), are you certain that the charger you purchased is truly 5V/3A? test multiple cables, together with the GSam Battery Monitor app to see how many amps its charging
@slickromeo No because this is a usb A to C cable so I used a fast charging chrager that was 5v/3a. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0122P71FC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
All the cables in question are designed like the OnePlus USB-C cables, Basically if your using a device that doesn't charge at 3A you have nothing to worry about
Anyone tried the cable matters ones?
They have a usb 3 to usb type c cable
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Matte...=8-6&keywords=cable+matters+usb+3.0+to+type+c
Hi guys, I'm looking at these cables.
It has a data sheet, is it possible to tell by this whether its in spec?
Everyone, once again, remember that there's NO WAY to tell if the USB A-C cable is compliant by just plugging it in.
It's pretty complex.
The Google Engineer wrote how to do it: https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/jGP5249NppF
I bought these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S8GU544?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01
I have no issues with them...And the guy from Google didn't review them. They also seem to be on the "compatibility list", based on the description of the item at least.
I've been playing around with the Android App Ampere - I'm wondering if it might be possible to identify bad cables based on the charging rate - based on this post, they should be 2A, not 3A. If you compare the power usage before and during charging, you can deduce the charging rate.
On another note - I'm putting together a database of usb-c compliant cables here to help people find compliant usb cables. I'm primarily focusing on usb-a to usb-c cables as that's where the biggest issues appear to exist. Right now the listings are based on Benson's reviews, but I'm planning to expand it to include additional cables once I find an accurate way to test cables.
I bought these awhile back:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0118NUJIK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S8GU544?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00
Would like to know how to test this without a Pixel...
You got your links messed up. FRiEQ links to Belin and vice versa.
It lists "USB Fast Charging @ 5V 3A" in the description, so it's unlikely to pass by Benson Leung's assertions that cables that list 3 amp charging speed typically don't adhere to the spec.

USBA QC2.0 car charger

I have read all the threads and seen the recommended charger listing.
Can old qc2.0 USBA car charger charge pixel xl safely? If so, @ what Wattage?
The one time I hooked my Pixel up to a QC 2.0 charger, it said "fast charging".
But everytime I would disconnect any USB cable after that, I get a popup that says "battery low" even if I was at 100% full charge.
I had to restore to stock to get rid of the message. And have not tried the QC again since.
That's just my one-time experience.
Jtinazoo7 said:
I have read all the threads and seen the recommended charger listing.
Can old qc2.0 USBA car charger charge pixel xl safely? If so, @ what Wattage?
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If you use the provided Google cable or use any proper Usb A to C cable with the correct 56k ohm pull-up resistor it should be safe
If you need help finding the right cable, you can refer to the link Nathan K. provided in the tested safe cables/chargers spreadsheet. I'll link it below.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
Or you can refer to Benson Leung's Amazon recommendation list linked below.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp
clockcycle said:
If you use the provided Google cable or use any proper Usb A to C cable with the correct 56k ohm pull-up resistor it should be safe
If you need help finding the right cable, you can refer to the link Nathan K. provided in the tested safe cables/chargers spreadsheet. I'll link it below.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
Or you can refer to Benson Leung's Amazon recommendation list linked below.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp
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Thanks! So focus on cables in my situation, sounds like. I'll just use the factory one for now.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Jtinazoo7 said:
Thanks! So focus on cables in my situation, sounds like. I'll just use the factory one for now.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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That or, get review'd chargers that already include a cable. altho those that do fail is usually for an iffy cable lol
BTW I posted this Car Charger it comes cabled and is safe, I ordered 2 $5 shipped each, still on sale.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/accessories/blitzwolf-5v-5-4a-usb-type-c-bw-c3-car-t3492163

Cables

I thought I would pass this one on, it's not listed on the spreadsheet yet, but according toe Choetech it is USB-IF certified. Jane Chh let me know on Facebook that she had gotten positive remarks from Benson Leung.
So I asked him on google+ and he confirmed as being a good cable, but a bit of over kill for the Pixel. At the current price I think it's a good option being that other good cables are about the same or more in price.
It also currently has a promo coupon for $5 off
USB-IF Certified CHOETECH [10Gbps] USB C to USB C Cable (3.3ft) USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C Cable [with E-marker & Power Delivery] for 2016 MacBook Pro, MacBook 2015/2016, Nexus 5X/6P, Lumia 950, etc
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N8U9075
Please post any other cables confirmed to be good or USB-IF that aren't on the spreadsheet.
Thanks!
Item Name: CHOETECH 2 Pack[4ft/1.2M] Premium TPE Jacket USB C to USB A Cable with 56k ohm Resistor
Original Price: $20.00
Sale Price: $11.99
Deal Price: $6.95 (Valid for BLACK, AC012-BLUE, AC012-ORANGE, AC012-WHITE 4 items)
Code: JL2XDEAS (expire on Dec.9)
Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LPI7ZXK/
Item Name: 6Pack [1.6ft (1) +3.3ft (4) + 6.6ft (1)] USB C to C cable bundle:
Original Price: $30.00
Sale Price: $24.99
Deal Price: $12.99
Code: LUI7QEDK
Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MG36MBZ
Item Name: USB-IF Certified USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C Cable [with E-marker & Power Delivery] for 2016 MacBook Pro, Pixel Phone or other USB C devices.
Original Price: $30.00
Sale Price: $14.99
Deal Price: $9.99
Code: TIFJPFLN
Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N8U9075
Item Name: USB C Cable with LCD Current Voltage Monitor and Voltage Display.
Original Price: $28.99
Sale Price : $13.99
Deal Price: $8.99
Code: RFUM8OUG
Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N2IOM1V
Will all these Choetech cables charge our Pixels at the full speed? I've found some of the cables from the spreadsheet but I'm hestiant to buy unless I know they'll charge at full speed.
skaforey said:
Will all these Choetech cables charge our Pixels at the full speed? I've found some of the cables from the spreadsheet but I'm hestiant to buy unless I know they'll charge at full speed.
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most any c to c charge at full speed, it all depends on your charger. the usb-if cheotech cable is over kill, that said I bought two
USB-IF Certified CHOETECH [10Gbps] USB C to USB C Cable (3.3ft) USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C Cable
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N8U9075
Wow this cable is fantastic. I was't expecting this kind of quality,the cable is thick and the connectors hefty. Transfer of data speed is much faster than my oem cable. Charging may be pseudo, but my pixel reported rapidly charging as soon as I plugged it in, with other cables it would eventually say that just before the screen would timeout. It may be overkill for my Google Pixel XL but well worth it.
Last picture included of standard Choetech usb type c to c cable for comparison.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MG36MBZ
I caution AGAINST this recommendation
clockcycle said:
I thought I would pass this one on, it's not listed on the spreadsheet yet, but according toe Choetech it is USB-IF certified. Jane Chh let me know on Facebook that she had gotten positive remarks from Benson Leung.
So I asked him on google+ and he confirmed as being a good cable, but a bit of over kill for the Pixel. At the current price I think it's a good option being that other good cables are about the same or more in price.
It also currently has a promo coupon for $5 off
USB-IF Certified CHOETECH [10Gbps] USB C to USB C Cable (3.3ft) USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C Cable [with E-marker & Power Delivery] for 2016 MacBook Pro, MacBook 2015/2016, Nexus 5X/6P, Lumia 950, etc
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N8U9075
Please post any other cables confirmed to be good or USB-IF that aren't on the spreadsheet.
Thanks!
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I purchased this cable based on this recommendation. I tried it first with my Yoga 910 notebook using an Anker Powerport + 60W converter. The Yoga didn't like the setup, displaying an "x" next to the battery indicator and of course would not charge. My Pixel arrived the next day and I tried this cable with both the Pixel OEM adapter and the Anker. It likewise would not charge and I also experienced a crackling sound when I removed the cable from the Anker after the Pixel was plugged in. After some more research I noticed this exact cable is now listed on the spreadsheet posted in the following thread as having been tested by both Benson and Nathan K. with a "Bad" rating: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357 (I'm too "new" to post a link to the spreadsheet itself, sorry)
At this point, this Choetech cable doesn't work with either adapter to power either my Pixel or my laptop. What's more, my Pixel no longer seems to like ANY C-C cables with either the OEM adapter or the Anker immediately after I try this Choetech cable. I can use the OEM A-C cable in a Type-A port and I can even use that A-C cable with the C-A dongle plugged into the OEM adapter or the Anker Type-C port and it powers the Pixel. It seems if reboot the phone or wait some extended period of time, the Pixel will work with other C-C cables again. Very strange, I agree.
All of these same cables (except the 10Gbps Choetech) will power my laptop with either the Pixel OEM adapter or the Anker. So it seems the other cables are all fine. I've tested for an hour or so (and note that I'm an electrical engineer with network hardware R&D experience) and I can only hypothesize so far that this Choetech cable has failed and now forces my Pixel into some state where it does not accept power from any C-C cable until reset.
I did buy the Choetech 6-pack of cables listed in the other post (ID: B01MG36MBZ) and they all seem to be working fine with my laptop and either adapter and also with the Pixel (except when I try them right after this 10Gbps Choetech cable). Caveat emptor with this Choetech product, but I'm returning mine immediately and hoping I haven't caused irreparable damage.
For reference:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/pubhtml#
leftbrain99 said:
I purchased this cable based on this recommendation. I tried it first with my Yoga 910 notebook using an Anker Powerport + 60W converter. The Yoga didn't like the setup, displaying an "x" next to the battery indicator and of course would not charge. My Pixel arrived the next day and I tried this cable with both the Pixel OEM adapter and the Anker. It likewise would not charge and I also experienced a crackling sound when I removed the cable from the Anker after the Pixel was plugged in. After some more research I noticed this exact cable is now listed on the spreadsheet posted in the following thread as having been tested by both Benson and Nathan K. with a "Bad" rating: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357 (I'm too "new" to post a link to the spreadsheet itself, sorry)
At this point, this Choetech cable doesn't work with either adapter to power either my Pixel or my laptop. What's more, my Pixel no longer seems to like ANY C-C cables with either the OEM adapter or the Anker immediately after I try this Choetech cable. I can use the OEM A-C cable in a Type-A port and I can even use that A-C cable with the C-A dongle plugged into the OEM adapter or the Anker Type-C port and it powers the Pixel. It seems if reboot the phone or wait some extended period of time, the Pixel will work with other C-C cables again. Very strange, I agree.
All of these same cables (except the 10Gbps Choetech) will power my laptop with either the Pixel OEM adapter or the Anker. So it seems the other cables are all fine. I've tested for an hour or so (and note that I'm an electrical engineer with network hardware R&D experience) and I can only hypothesize so far that this Choetech cable has failed and now forces my Pixel into some state where it does not accept power from any C-C cable until reset.
I did buy the Choetech 6-pack of cables listed in the other post (ID: B01MG36MBZ) and they all seem to be working fine with my laptop and either adapter and also with the Pixel (except when I try them right after this 10Gbps Choetech cable). Caveat emptor with this Choetech product, but I'm returning mine immediately and hoping I haven't caused irreparable damage.
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Interesting I have no such problem with the Google Pixel XL OEM Charger Brick and this cable, I use it every day. I went with Benson's direct comment on G+ of it being a good cable at the time, but what he was sent for testing and what we bought might be totally different. It's unfortunate that there doesn't seem to be consistency in quality control, the spreadsheet is live as far as recommendations are ever changing from one day to the next.
Which Anker Charger did you use, so I can read what recommendation comments Nathan K. and or Benson Leung give on your charger. EDIT: This one? https://www.anker.com/products/A2053111 (according to the spreadsheet "Lacks legacy encoding on D+/D-, won't work on legacy cables. 20v split PDO glitched.". It shouldn't work with A-C legacy cables..)
Also I only use the cables and chargers I post on the Pixel forums exclusively with my Pixel XL. I have read on their comments there being issues with swapping faulty PD chip chargers supplying wrong power between devices. Most particular chargers causing silent failures. You may have gotten a faulty cable, which would suck. BTW the 6 pack isn't listed on the spreadsheet. I have them as well, I've only used the short one and 1 longer one just fine. YMMV
clockcycle said:
Interesting I have no such problem with the Google Pixel XL OEM Charger Brick and this cable, I use it every day. I went with Benson's direct comment on G+ of it being a good cable at the time, but what he was sent for testing and what we bought might be totally different. It's unfortunate that there doesn't seem to be consistency in quality control, the spreadsheet is live as far as recommendations are ever changing from one day to the next.
Which Anker Charger did you use, so I can read what recommendation comments Nathan K. and or Benson Leung give on your charger. EDIT: This one? https://www.anker.com/products/A2053111 (according to the spreadsheet "Lacks legacy encoding on D+/D-, won't work on legacy cables. 20v split PDO glitched.". It shouldn't work with A-C legacy cables..)
Also I only use the cables and chargers I post on the Pixel forums exclusively with my Pixel XL. I have read on their comments there being issues with swapping faulty PD chip chargers supplying wrong power between devices. Most particular chargers causing silent failures. You may have gotten a faulty cable, which would suck. BTW the 6 pack isn't listed on the spreadsheet. I have them as well, I've only used the short one and 1 longer one just fine. YMMV
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That's the Anker adapter that I'm using, but I'm not using legacy ports, so the lack of legacy encoding wouldn't matter when using the Type-C interface with a C-C cable. We're talking about the cable and I've isolated it as such because I experience the same problem with the Anker and the Google OEM charger and this cable. And yes, I might have gotten a faulty cable - we'll know more when I receive the replacement cable that Choetech sends me.
But I suggest you also look again at the spreadsheet and realize that this very cable you are still staunchly defending has a -2 BAD rating according to test results by both Benson and Nathan K. Nathan has also just revealed his reasoning for the failing score for this cable. I'd link to it, but I haven't hit the 10-post threshold here, yet, but it's his latest comment on his pinned post on his G+ USB-C Analyses page. Quoted here:
I was working with +Choetech Official / +CHOETECH to resolve the issue I brought up. "Responsible disclosure." This is subsequent to +Benson Leung's (Dec 3, 2016) comment you link. However, they have ceased responding and in fact even asked me to retract my test results highlighting fundamental safety defects with their chargers. (Particularly their "#1 ranked" 15w one.) For that reason, I believe it would be fair to disclose some data openly now. I ran two tests: (1st) was private and I cannot discuss it. (2nd) was donated by +Francisco Vigil from Amazon and is under no disclosure restrictions. My findings replicate Benson's, if not significantly worse. This product is not pre-release, it is actively available and being sold to the public despite these flaws. I held off on reporting as a courtesy to Choetech to clean up their act, but given your report, it seems this was a mistake.
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Are you really intending to defend this cable against their concerns with it as well? I also note that another Amazon reviewer to whom you responded experiences the same electrical crackling that I do, though his cable had not seemed to have failed...at least not yet. Needless to say, there is more than enough evidence to raise concerns with this cable. I'm glad it's working out for you, but I still wouldn't advise other people to try their luck with it despite the mounting evidence of potential for problems here.
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That's the Anker adapter that I'm using, but I'm not using legacy ports, so the lack of legacy encoding wouldn't matter when using the Type-C interface with a C-C cable. We're talking about the cable and I've isolated it as such because I experience the same problem with the Anker and the Google OEM charger and this cable. And yes, I might have gotten a faulty cable - we'll know more when I receive the replacement cable that Choetech sends me.
But I suggest you also look again at the spreadsheet and realize that this very cable you are still staunchly defending has a -2 BAD rating according to test results by both Benson and Nathan K. Nathan has also just revealed his reasoning for the failing score for this cable. I'd link to it, but I haven't hit the 10-post threshold here, yet, but it's his latest comment on his pinned post on his G+ USB-C Analyses page. Quoted here:
Are you really intending to defend this cable against their concerns with it as well? I also note that another Amazon reviewer to whom you responded experiences the same electrical crackling that I do, though his cable had not seemed to have failed...at least not yet. Needless to say, there is more than enough evidence to raise concerns with this cable. I'm glad it's working out for you, but I still wouldn't advise other people to try their luck with it despite the mounting evidence of potential for problems here.
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Note I am not "defending" any cable device accessory or other wise. I just pass on what I see as a good deal at the time and post my OWN observations.
So you're stating that with the choetech usb-if cable you a hearing a "crackling" sound with BOTH your anker and the google oem charger? Your previous statement read as if it only happens with your Anker. As notated on the spreadsheet that charger has issues too, even though it's rated at 2 on their scale.
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+German M. It's a good cable, but if you're just using it to charge your Pixel XL, it's serious overkill. It is a full-featured Gen2 cable, meaning that it can support 10gbps USB 3.1 Gen 2 and simultaneous DisplayPort 4K video.
Neither of those things your phone actually supports. The XL only supports 5gbps USB 3.1 Gen 1.
Furthermore, this cable is only 1M long. The cable that came with your phone is 1.8M. You may find it a bit short.
There are probably better options for you if you just want a charging cable. If you want a cable that you may eventually use to hook up a new laptop with Type-C ports (such as a new MacBook Pro) to your Pixel XL though, the CHOETECH is a good choice.
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If you notice, my comment linked that usb-if cable, was at the same time that a well known tester of usb c stuff (BL) suggested the cable he was sent is "good".. It may have since changed, as many of the recommendations on the spreadsheet have. Many of the top rated/reviewed cables and chargers with a 3, now have a -2 -3 rating.
I bought it at that time, based on comments and under my own assumption of risk. Fortunately my cables worked for me and my application.
That's why if you read further on Nathan K. and Benson Lueng's G+ they are reluctant to "recommend" stuff. After totalphase lent Nathan K. that tester, continued in depth testing as revealed flaws in many of their previously highly rated accessories.
Nathan K.
+German M.​​​​ Click the link at the bottom of my post. It's a $20 Naztech 5A/100W USB 3.1Gen2. Yes, getting the Google 22.5W charger for $40 with its included Google USB 2.0 charging cable ($20 value) is wise financially. Yes, the Choetech is still fine (and for $10 at that). But I haven't tested the Choetech cable, and Benson hasn't published data (I was slow typing! See above), so between two unknowns that are both USB-IF certified I'd opt for the 5A one.
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The above quoted from G+ was more than 6 weeks ago.
But you have to take their testing subjectively, depending on your application. Again, so far that cable used with the google stock oem charger with my pixel xl has worked for me without issues. YMMV
EDIT: Here are NAthan K.'s current observations on this cable, just posted moments ago. https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/cdVsC5ZvrJy?sfc=true
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So you're stating that with the choetech usb-f cable you a hearing a "crackling" sound with BOTH your anker and the google oem charger? Your previous statement read as if it only happens with your Anker. As notated on the spreadsheet that charger has issues too, even though it's rated at 2 on their scale.
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Yes - the crackling happens on both adapters - the Anker and the Google OEM adapter. I can recreate it every time. I first noticed it with the Anker adapter, but I wasn't listening for it every time, and if the TV were on for instance I might not have heard it. In the hours I've spent diagnosing the symptoms since then, I've been able to gain more useful information.
And, yes the spreadsheet notes some issues with the Anker adapter, but as I responded before those notes are specifically limited to the legacy ports, not the USB-C port, so that is completely irrelevant here.
If you notice, my comment linked that usb-if cable, was at the same time that a well known tester of usb c stuff (BL) suggested the cable he was sent is "good".. It may have since changed, as many of the recommendations on the spreadsheet have. Many of the top rated/reviewed cables and chargers with a 3, now have a -2 -3 rating.
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I'm with you, and I noted that above as well. Benson did suggest that the cable was good from his experience in December. It worked fine for him and in that same message to you on the G+ page he noted that it had a blank E-Marker field and some other things, but he dismissively chalked that up to it probably being because it was a non-production unit as Choetech sent it to him to test (as a computer hardware R&D engineer with lots of experience in preproduction development, this makes perfect sense to me) As Nathan K. more recently notes, though, these same errors and perhaps more are also present in the production units and that is something they seem to agree is not acceptable and also very likely dangerous.
I bought it at that time, based on comments and under my own assumption of risk. Fortunately my cables worked for me and my application.
That's why if you read further on Nathan K. and Benson Lueng's G+ they are reluctant to "recommend" stuff. After totalphase lent Nathan K. that tester, continued in depth testing as revealed flaws in many of their previously highly rated accessories.
But you have to take their testing subjectively, depending on your application. Again, so far that cable used with the google stock oem charger with my pixel xl has worked without issues. YMMV
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Very good. A live grenade may not detonate after the pin is pulled. YMMV.
I think what amazes me here is that you are very quick to point to the Anker adapter as a potential problem simply because it has some notes on spreadsheet (even though the specific notes have no bearing on the use of C-C non-legacy cables), but you then also downplay the spreadsheet as merely subjective in reference to a clearly failing score given to this non-legacy cable.
I, as well, bought the cable assuming my own risk. I bought it based on this very post you made and the fact that it had all good reviews on Amazon (six 5-stars and one 3-star at the time). Now I want to warn people that there is more evidence to suggest that the cable might not be a good choice. I don't care if I change your mind about using the cable, but I do wish you could just acknowledge that the info you posted above and based your initial decision on has now clearly changed - the cable does not have the blessings of Benson and Nathan K. after much more recent and extensive testing, and so that's probably for good reason.
EDIT: By the way - the Anker Powerport+ 60W USB-PD charger review by Nathan K. can be found on his G+ USB-C Analyses page in a post initially dated August 29, 2016 and he gave it an overall rating of EXCELLENT ("proof Anker can make good products, if they put their minds to it"). Maybe we can put that frolic to rest now. I'm still not sure about the notes in the spreadsheet regarding legacy cable support, but I have no problem powering USB-C devices with A-to-C cables using the legacy ports and neither Nathan K. nor Benson identify such issues in that post or their comments section. I still cannot post links, but you can open any G+ url and replace everything after the domain with: /u/0/102612254593917101378/posts/Z7uN3G6MF9r
Got in my Choetech 3pack and 6pack USB A to Type-C today. Man great sturdy build same as the C-C version. The braided is so nice, and transfer speeds on both cables are whopping fast! Good charging, tested several different brand OEM chargers. I ordered these after seeing they were on sale again on a slickdeals post and though I'd take advantage.

where buy original adapter and cable

hello ,
where i can buy original adapter and cable ?
thx
ajegile said:
hello ,
where i can buy original adapter and cable ?
thx
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I bought the Aukey USB Wall Charger with Dual Quick Charge 3.0 Ports for Smart phones and compared it side by side at different battery levels against the original charger using the Satechi USB-C Power Meter. In every case the volts/amps matched. It has two ports and is sometimes on sale for $11. The Amazon description seems to suggest that it is limited to 2.4 Amps, but the unit itself it says that it goes up to 3A.
Thx for reply
Can you tell me link amazon, adapter and cable .
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Can you tell me link amazon, adapter and cable .
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I am new, so it won't let me post a link, but if you Google for B01BBZJ31Y the Amazon link should be the first hit
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I am new, so it won't let me post a link, but if you Google for B01BBZJ31Y the Amazon link should be the first hit
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and the cable type c ?
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and the cable type c ?
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It requires a type A to type C cable, just like the one that came with my original adapter. I normally look for what cables Benson Leung or Nathan K recommend, although since this is QC 3 and not USB-C charging protocol it may not matter so much. In any case, I've been using one of the cables from an Aukey 5 pack which can be Googled on Amazon using B01B634WNK . They don't appear to have a problem with the wattage, but they are somewhat stiff (since they are braided) so you may prefer some other kind.
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I should mention that I would expect *any* certified QC 3.0 charger with sufficient output range to perform in a similar manner, since it's probably just working with the QC 3 built into the Snapdragon 821, not something particular about the Le Pro 3. But this is the unit that I happened to test.
I can vouch for the Aukey 5 pack USB-C as well. Very sturdy.
If you want the original, LeMall sells leeco branded cables under accessory. Not sure whether it's any better than aukey though
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I bought the Aukey USB Wall Charger with Dual Quick Charge 3.0 Ports for Smart phones and compared it side by side at different battery levels against the original charger using the Satechi USB-C Power Meter. In every case the volts/amps matched. It has two ports and is sometimes on sale for $11. The Amazon description seems to suggest that it is limited to 2.4 Amps, but the unit itself it says that it goes up to 3A.
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Same here and works great.

Are cheap USB A to C cables safe?

Hey all,
I know that there are some USB c to c labels out there are unsafe because of the high amperage and the fact that some cables out there 'remember' the last voltage/amperage that has gone through, so you can have the chance of overcharging. But how's this with cheap USB a to c cables? I got a (probably) cheap one with my secondhand 6P a few months ago and I kinda need one right know since we're have another USB C phone in this house starting Monday.
I would like to hear your thoughts!
Ah, I seem to be wrong. It's the USB a to c cables that are the dangerous ones.
Edit: nvm, they both can be dangerous :').
Does anyone know if these are safe;
http://s.aliexpress.com/eIFJN7jy ?
swa100 said:
Ah, I seem to be wrong. It's the USB a to c cables that are the dangerous ones.
Edit: nvm, they both can be dangerous :').
Does anyone know if these are safe;
http://s.aliexpress.com/eIFJN7jy ?
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Benson Leung is a Google engineer and have tested 100 of cables, chargers, etc. If that cable is not listed I wouldn't touch it.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung
Another good source for tested products, reviewing with the assistance of Benson Leung.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/pubhtml
If its not in the above spreadsheet/reviewed by Benson Leung or Nathan K , I won't touch it.
How about these? Recommended? Trash?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J3GG82U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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How about these? Recommended? Trash?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J3GG82U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Skip em and go for the ones Benson tested and recommends.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R1OEQH5IMIQSQK?ref_=glimp_1rv_cl

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