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[Verizon] Samsung offers "hacker friendly" Galaxy S3 on Big Red

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii
Bit late for lots of folks and $599.

Immolate said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii
Bit late for lots of folks and $599.
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Three cheers for Samsung doing the right thing, about a month late.
A better choice would of been, a developer portal website, where we send you our IMEI, you mark our warranty as invalid should we brick our phone, and then give us a file to unlock our bootloader. I'd even pay a reasonable, less than $50 processing fee, for your effort.
Earlier on a conference call with Verizon and Samsung, the following happened.... ( For the Verizon and Samsung suits, the below is satire, if I got it right, it's a coincidence...)
Samsung: Verizon, we told you that you were going to piss off the tech influncers, they're going to badmouth the S3 on your network and people will consider other carriers. Your dumb ass move of locking the bootloader is now costing us support calls, as we try to explain your poor decision. The right thing to do, as we told you earlier was not to lock it.
Verizon: Heck no, we're not doing it. We don't want the warranty and support headaches, besides they're all just a bunch of hacker thieves who will destroy our network, break their phones and cry to us when they brick.
Samsung: Your dumb move is hurting our brand and your brand too. (Thinking: But you're too stupid to see it.) What if we made you a limited quantity of S3's of of the S3's on your network without locking the bootloader.did a developer phone. You could sell it to a limited customer base for a small up-charge and make everyone happy. This way you could limit the amount of so called "hacker thieves" while keeping the influncers happy and give us a consistent message where we don't have to lie.
Verizon: We're not selling it.
Samsung: You'd be able to make peace with the influencers, you know that group that is all excited about our products, and convinces their friends to get it on your network. They'd love you for it.
Verizon: We're too big to have a different process for the phone same phone. We'd have mass confusion everywhere, support, service, retail and we'd loose money on it.
Samsung: You need to do something about this. It's only going to get nastier as you deliver more phones. All the other carriers didn't lock, and you simply look stupid for doing it. Your confusing message sounds like paranoia mixed with PR lies. Nobody is believing you, and you make us look bad.
Verizon: We're big enough. We don't care. Let them whine, they'll quiet down in a while.
Samsung: We'll if you're not going to do anything at least let us do something. Let us build a model with an IMEI which you'll allow on your network, which doesn't have a locked bootloader. We'll sell it, support it, and handle warranty. We'll call it a developer phone.
Verizon: Grumble Grumble.... Fine. This issue is over and the last we'll talk about it. Goodbye. Click. Those Samsung guys need to grow a pair. <Laughter>
Samsung: What a bunch of morons in suits.

Well this is good for those who want to install roms and what not. It sucks for those who are trying to get the Sgs3 as an upgrade on Verizon.

this is awesome thanks! I woulda never though samsung would do this.

They also do not say if you are paying $599 to get the 16gb version or 32gb.

so its essentially the sprint version except it works on Verizon.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/28/atandts-garnet-red-galaxy-s-iii-for-vampires-we-go-hands-on/

So are there actual hardware differences in the Version S3 and the Developers version or is it just in the firmware ??

racer38 said:
So are there actual hardware differences in the Version S3 and the Developers version or is it just in the firmware ??
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I pray to God their isn't and we can just Odin their firmware.
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Taxing Developers?
So now verizon and samsung decide to tax us for being developers? No one needs to buy this. Kexec the verizon version untill we can crack the bootloader!
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At this point i doubt many people will be purchasing this phone. Had samsung released it a few weeks ago then i bet more people would have bought it, but they've waited too long now.

Neverendingxsin said:
At this point i doubt many people will be purchasing this phone. Had samsung released it a few weeks ago then i bet more people would have bought it, but they've waited too long now.
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yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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xsteven77x said:
yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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if the bootloader on the dev phone is usable on the locked handsets...thus unlocking them....then the development for this phone will become bigger than ever....

I plan on buying one when it is released in spite of Verizon.
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cshort0982 said:
I plan on buying one when it is released in spite of Verizon.
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When you do I hope you rip what we will need as a community for development.
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neyenlives said:
if the bootloader on the dev phone is usable on the locked handsets...thus unlocking them....then the development for this phone will become bigger than ever....
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pyrostic said:
When you do I hope you rip what we will need as a community for development.
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I hope to hell it's as easy as you guys are thinking it will be. Unfortunately I would NOT count on it.

haha that would be hilarious and so awesome at the same time if the whole unlocked bootloader stock image could just be flashed in odin to bypass everything else. I was sayin the devs in charge of the $3k in donations to the bounty for unlocked bootloader should just offer that money to somebody at Verizon...like somebody should email one of the execs, not CEO, but a little lower, execs are ALWAYS lookin to make some extra bucks. Or at Samsung, I'm sure there's some software that can unlock that they possess. I came from the OG and have only this for like 4 days, and I'm extremely missing the freedom I had. It's like moving to North Korea or Cuba, naw more like North Korea

^^you had me laughing at that!
....North Korea!

xsteven77x said:
yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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We can use it to point out to the fcc that vzw's excuse for locking the bootloader on a block c device is bull crap.

They really are trying to tax us now. This prooves they only care about money, not improoving their products..
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I535MBDVZW
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[Bounty] AT&T Galaxy S4 Bootloader Unlock

We've all had our complaints about the OS, but lets put our money where our mouth is.
I'll get the ball rolling. $20 pledge to the developer(s) who gets it unlocked.

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beanstown106 said:
.....bounty threads for a prize of unlocking are definetly allowed.....
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I meant as far as this thread being in the Dev. subform :/

Put me down for $20
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15$ thru paypal ready to donate to whoever cracks this. ppl are disappointed and are even going as far as returning their s4 because its locked.

sam2c said:
We've all had our complaints about the OS, but lets put our money where our mouth is.
I'll get the ball rolling. $20 pledge to the developer(s) who gets it unlocked.
To Mods: Apologies to Kenny and Jcase et al. .....didn't realize [Bounty] threads were not allowed here. My reason was to motivate the devs. Please move if necessary
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I know there are several extremely bright and talented people working on this - but I also would be more than willing to pledge at least $50 to the dev/devs that get this done. My question is - how do you pay a bounty like this to a team of devs who collaborate to get the bootloader unlocked?

mocsab said:
I know there are several extremely bright and talented people working on this - but I also would be more than willing to pledge at least $50 to the dev/devs that get this done. My question is - how do you pay a bounty like this to a team of devs who collaborate to get the bootloader unlocked?
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Paypal and or whatever they suggest
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in for $20

I am in for $50.

Good News for you guys is that Adam Outler owns a S4, he might be able to get an insecure bootloader similar to the Verizon S3 and Note 2.

Longtime lurker. Joined just to offer a contribution to the bounty on this.
I will put down $50. If someone successfully unlocks it within 1 week from now, I will double that to $100.
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il put down $45

Hi All, just joined team Android after years of iOS/iPhone usage. Sad that the bootloader is unlocked but confident in the Devs. I'm in for $50 if we can get this done soon.

I'm down for $20.

I'll give $25.
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Put me down for $25, let's get this bootloader unlocked and unleash the beast! This isn't the i337 model for nothin

Count Me IN
25

Put me down for $20. Lets gets this done!

OP I guess you now need to maintain a list in the first post of all peeps with the amounts and also amount in title.

Put me down for $20
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[KNOX] Finally a fix! Is this true!?

Apparently the new version of Easy Jtag will allow KNOX to be completely reset by factory formatting the emmc and writing an old bootloader back onto the device. I realise the question in the source was aimed at the S4 by the way...
Has anyone tried?
Source

jonboyuk said:
Apparently the new version of Easy Jtag will allow KNOX to be completely reset by factory formatting the emmc and writing an old bootloader back onto the device. I realise the question in the source was aimed at the S4 by the way...
Has anyone tried?
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You need to hardwire the EMMC to reset KNOX.
I wouldn't recommend it! :good:

If that was the case, wouldn't that mean knox flag is not e-fuse? I don't think it's that complicated, but I don't see Note3 listed as supported device yet, maybe we should just wait and see what comes out of it. They have NYC number listed for a dealer, it could be the fix people are looking for. Few handy members could offer service for others for a small fee and there is already over $3000 bounty, so it could be an option in the future.

I guess there are owners like me who haven't formally pledged money for a solution but who would happily pay for a known working solution
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paul_59 said:
I guess there are owners like me who haven't formally pledged money for a solution but who would happily pay for a known working solution
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Yeah....I don't know why...I won't donate to something I know isn't going to work....when it does work i'll happily donate

androidlover287 said:
Yeah....I don't know why...I won't donate to something I know isn't going to work....when it does work i'll happily donate
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I don't think you must see it as a donation, but more as a stimulation.....

pete4k said:
If that was the case, wouldn't that mean knox flag is not e-fuse? I don't think it's that complicated, but I don't see Note3 listed as supported device yet, maybe we should just wait and see what comes out of it. They have NYC number listed for a dealer, it could be the fix people are looking for. Few handy members could offer service for others for a small fee and there is already over $3000 bounty, so it could be an option in the future.
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Just as I thought. I also have Note 2 since 2012 eventually upgraded to 4.3 and there is KNOX ! Note 2 was never meant to have Knox, it is there because I voluntarily upgraded it to 4.3.

if you read the entire thread, on page 4 it states that this aint actually a working method and its been tested by someone on XDA

Verizon Wireless Developer Program

This is for any Verizon device, not just the Samsung Galaxy S5. Please spread this to other device forums!
Recently, I came up with an idea of a developer program. What this program would do is allow people to pay a fee to have their bootloaders unlocked, regardless of the device. This would allow people the freedom to modify their device or develop for it without any issues. I did a little research and could not find anything similar to this (besides developer edition devices). So, with this idea in mind, I sent an email to the Executive VP of Verizon. Twenty minutes later, I received a phone call from his office. Long story short (there was a lot of talk about rooting and unlocking), the guy who called me put my idea through to marketing. However, since only about 1% of customers root their devices, there is concern of the interest in this.
What this thread is for is to see how many people would be interested in this program.
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
$0
$5
$25
$50
$100
Please use only one of those five prices, and no other prices.
You may discuss this in further detail in this thread. However, arguing, trolling, slandering, bickering, and anything else that will clutter this thread and overwork the moderators WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. This thread is not the thread to argue with others over the details since the idea is already in marketing. If you wish to argue or troll, please take it somewhere else. And, as always, please follow the forum rules. Thank you for looking at this thread.
For those who are concerned with the warranty, please read this. Huge thanks to @shootind5nukes for this info.
Just so everyone knows the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act prevents someone from totally VOIDING a warranty. Verizon/Samsung could only deny to warranty something if they can prove something you did cause the issue. Anything that has nothing to do with what you did still has to be under warranty. If you LCD started to lose color or get dead pixels that would still have to be covered because that has nothing to do with bootloaders and flashing ROMS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
"The federal minimum standards for full warranties are waived if the warrantor can show that the problem associated with a warranted consumer product was caused by damage while in the possession of the consumer, or by unreasonable use, including a failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance."
I learned about this when I was going to get my truck lifted. I was told if I did it would VOID my truck's warranty. After looking into it further it didn't actually VOID anything. But for example if I went in to get my suspension fixed because it broke they could argue that the lift kit put stress on the suspension and that's why it failed so they would not have to cover it. But if my motor exploded because it was made out of cheese it would still be under warranty, the entire warranty can never be voided. Only damage caused by what you did. Food for thought guys.
If anyone has anything to add please do.
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Here is the email of the VP I emailed if you want to email him about the developer program. Again, thank you @shootind5nukes for this idea.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/leadership/executive/profiles/david-small.html
IF YOU DO EMAIL HIM, BE POLITE AND RESPECTFUL PLEASE.​

eragon5779 said:
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
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$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.

At this point I would be willing to pay a one time fee of $25. It makes sense it would be a charge since the dev edition has to be bought at full price.
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Verizon has alot of customers 1% is alot of people.

Great program, if implemented. Kudos for the idea AND getting a response! I would pay up to a hundred bucks for an official unlock like this, but I have ATT...

25 is fair, but I'd pay up to 50, if it included some insurance for the device. Is also say, that as an ATT customer, a service like this would tempt me to switch to Verizon

$25
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I'm on ATT as well but would pay upto $50. But my question is if they give a way to unlock it, it would be universal thru all phones. So why wouldn't i just tell my friend. If they would do this why wouldn't they just charge an extra $50 on every phone and have every phone unlocked. No more hassle. Why are they so greedy? If it's only 1% that care about there freedom what would they loose? They would make tons more money.....
http://i.imgur.com/0OBoXTC.jpg

I agree w/ @Cat McGowan, devices should be open for development. And therefore would like to pay $0, but a $5 fee isn't too bad...

According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars

Long time lurker. Signed up just to post to this thread.
I voted for $50 because that seems reasonable but at this point ive been looking to buy a $200 device that is unlockable so i would really probably pay more for a clean, official unlock. I agree that the spirit of Android should be open and therefore unlocked for free but its obvious that OEMs dont feel this way and Google isnt likely to "pull an Apple" so to speak and tell OEMs to leave their devices unlocked.
How wonderful would it be to not have to risk bricking devices and staying one step ahead to keep root and ROM?!
If Big Red is talking about this then its a milestone indeed. For so long the official position has been to shut it down. Maybe all of our annoying voices are finally breaking through?
I for one, constantly post on their facebook page, email and frequently call just to bug em about this. Keep it up and step it up! Maybe we can get somewhere?
Edit: Which VP did you email? haha. Seems like everyone on their site is a VP of something or another. Maybe we could all make our voices heard together?

I'd pay $100 if i had to, but $50 is more realistic. If it was $100 i feel like that would dissuade enough people from spending that type of money to the point where community development is lacking , just like it is for locked down devices with only DevEd's as an option.
I really really hope something comes from this. TMo is just looking too good these days but i don't want to give up this network.

I would be comfortable with $25.00.

I'm with big blue, would pay 25 bucks in a heartbeat. 50... ehh, I'd be hesitant. This is the first device I've owned where I wasn't hellbent on unlocking the bootloader
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joshuabg said:
According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars
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I voted for $100, but all of these choices seem reasonable to me. Obviously being able to do it for free would be optimal.
The quote above really isn't a great way of looking at it. Sure, $5M sounds like a lot, but taken in context it is a rounding error at a place like Verizon. That $5M isn't enough to move top line revenue by a single basis point, and therefore wouldn't be enough incentive to the bottom line. Even $100 for the 1.077M people would only add 10 basis points to top line revenue.
All that said, money can't be the sole factor for getting them to let us unlock the bootloaders. They would have to look at the goodwill it would create, and the new customers, as evidenced above, that they could steal away from the other carriers.

Personally I believe we should pay $0 as I paid for the device and should be allowed to do as I please with it. Realistically tho $5-$10 wouldnt be terrible
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I'd be willing to pay up to $50. I would think Verizon could easily steal some customers away from other carriers by offering something like this. However, I don't see any carrier offering any kind of warranty on a device that has had its bootloader modified. It would be very easy for a newb like myself to brick my device and then try to get another under warranty...

$25

Cat McGowan said:
$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.
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This. All of this.

$25
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When do you think Root will come out?

When do you guys think a root will come out for the galaxy 5? Its been a long time.

To be honest man. I don't think we'll ever get root for this one. It is frustrating to know that the S7 and the almost identical S6 got root but we are sh!t out of luck with the Note5. Do yourself a favor and get the T-Mobile variant so you can enjoy your phone's full potential.

brandon110 said:
When do you guys think a root will come out for the galaxy 5? Its been a long time.
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When I was working on root no one wanted to help me so I just worked on it myself and I refuse to give out any information about it because of 1, no one cared to help 2, I spent months working on it alone and broke 3 phones which isn't cheap and 3, the bounty they have out isn't worth nothing to me.

MrMike2182 said:
When I was working on root no one wanted to help me so I just worked on it myself and I refuse to give out any information about it because of 1, no one cared to help 2, I spent months working on it alone and broke 3 phones which isn't cheap and 3, the bounty they have out isn't worth nothing to me.
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I'm just glad there IS a chance of root! You just gave me hope

A chance that money rules all it seems
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MrMike2182 said:
When I was working on root no one wanted to help me so I just worked on it myself and I refuse to give out any information about it because of 1, no one cared to help 2, I spent months working on it alone and broke 3 phones which isn't cheap and 3, the bounty they have out isn't worth nothing to me.
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How much is the bounty? I haven't seen it. I would contribute
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Ryano89 said:
How much is the bounty? I haven't seen it. I would contribute
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I have no idea at this point because the people who did pledge some money aren't interested in it no more because most of them went and got different phones already so there is no point anymore.
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A chance that money rules all it seems
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It's not that money rules all (it usually does in most cases so you're correct), it's the simple fact that when you lose 3, 4, 5 phones trying to get the community what it wants, do you think it would be fair to the Dev that spent a lot of time and money to get what a lot of people want and not get anything back in return for everything? The reason I said the bounty is worth nothing to me is because I already spent way over that amount and people are backing out of it and taking their pledged amount back so it's just not worth nothing.

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When do you guys think a root will come out for the galaxy 5? Its been a long time.
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At this point, Samsung could cut a lot of blood loss from their Note 7 fiasco and enable easy root for all current unrootable devices and see some surge in interest and competent development. This would be a betterment to everyone, but the kickbacks from the useless preinstalled apps is probably more important than customer satisfaction and loyalty. Oh well.

Aw man you quit working on it and you broke several phones. That sucks. Well my cousin was wanting root. I just wonder what makes finding the root so hard. I'm learning HTML and CSS and soon afterwards javascript and I'm telling you its tough.. I couldn't imagine a coding language like java which im assuiming is what andriod is programmed in I think.