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The other option we have is to use Kingroot to push development. While Kingroot doesnt work for our device, it will show the devs of Kingroot that our GS7 edge is in demand for an exploit. Let these devs know we want it bad. Run the app.
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Download the app here
http://www.kingroot.net/wap/download

won't make any change anyway.

Nope, it's a waste of time and has been done dozens of times before with no results.
But why rain on his parade?
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why buy an expensive new phone that can't be rooted when i have a perfectly fine older version that is? there is little difference between 3yr old phone and today's version except I AM ROOTED. so that may be why vote total is low

Because 99%+ of customers don't care about rooting, and want the new phones for the new features - fingerprint scanner, faster cpu, more memory, high res screen, Samsung Pay, etc.
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pltctytc said:
why buy an expensive new phone that can't be rooted when i have a perfectly fine older version that is? there is little difference between 3yr old phone and today's version except I AM ROOTED. so that may be why vote total is low
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Little difference besides:
Screen resolution
Screen brightness
Screen clarity
Radio bands
LTE speed
Processor speed
RAM
Charging speed
Battery size
GPU performance
Build materials
MST technology (allows Samsung Pay, though obviously that's not important if you are all about rooting)
But yeah basically the same, you know they are rectangles with glass coveted screens and stuff inside them.
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pltctytc said:
why buy an expensive new phone that can't be rooted when i have a perfectly fine older version that is? there is little difference between 3yr old phone and today's version except I AM ROOTED. so that may be why vote total is low
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Huh? Does root give you a better camera sensor? Brighter and higher resolution screen? Faster processor? More RAM? More premium build? Faster LTE radio? More LTE band support? Faster WiFi? Better mobile payment solution?

geoff5093 said:
Huh? Does root give you a better camera sensor? Brighter and higher resolution screen? Faster processor? More RAM? More premium build? Faster LTE radio? More LTE band support? Faster WiFi? Better mobile payment solution?
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Root - no. Custom ROMs because of root that can improve and tweak stuff - yes.
Root isn't for everybody - doesn't sound like it matters for you, but for the tweaker, it's life.

mugsy77 said:
Root - no. Custom ROMs because of root that can improve and tweak stuff - yes.
Root isn't for everybody - doesn't sound like it matters for you, but for the tweaker, it's life.
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No, custom Roms can't do any of the stuff I mention. The most you can dk is tweak the kernel and overclock it a bit.
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No, custom Roms can't do any of the stuff I mention. The most you can dk is tweak the kernel and overclock it a bit.
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Would you call a custom rom that replaced a stock camera app with an improved one...an improvement? Removal of bloat, thus freeing up RAM? Flexibility of changing radio code if latest is not as quick, stable, or battery efficent? Just because something has the latest firmware, doesn't mean it did not make things worse from the update. Sometimes going backwards is going forward - depending on the update.
Yeah, kernel tweaks and overclocking will help, too, but without root, you are forced to upgrade whatever is given to you - good or bad.
Is it me or has the S7E community been more of we are ok w/o root than other cells or is this how it normally is in the beginning before root is achieved?

mugsy77 said:
Would you call a custom rom that replaced a stock camera app with an improved one...an improvement? Removal of bloat, thus freeing up RAM? Flexibility of changing radio code if latest is not as quick, stable, or battery efficent? Just because something has the latest firmware, doesn't mean it did not make things worse from the update. Sometimes going backwards is going forward - depending on the update.
Yeah, kernel tweaks and overclocking will help, too, but without root, you are forced to upgrade whatever is given to you - good or bad.
Is it me or has the S7E community been more of we are ok w/o root than other cells or is this how it normally is in the beginning before root is achieved?
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Stock cameras are top notch for most phones, and are significantly worse if loaded with an AOSP ROM. Any slight config tweaks are nothing compared to phones having larger sensors, wider apertures, and newer hardware. Removal of bloat helps, but that can be done even without root, and you aren't going to be gaining several gigs worth of extra usable RAM. Radio bands are all hardware defined, you can add new bands that the hardware didn't support in the first place.
People who buy Samsung products so so knowing root may not be possible, the fact is less and less people root their phones because there isn't as much if a need anymore, and companies are locking them down more.
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Stock cameras are top notch for most phones, and are significantly worse if loaded with an AOSP ROM. Any slight config tweaks are nothing compared to phones having larger sensors, wider apertures, and newer hardware. Removal of bloat helps, but that can be done even without root, and you aren't going to be gaining several gigs worth of extra usable RAM. Radio bands are all hardware defined, you can add new bands that the hardware didn't support in the first place.
People who buy Samsung products so so knowing root may not be possible, the fact is less and less people root their phones because there isn't as much if a need anymore, and companies are locking them down more.
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I can agree that for the S7E the camera can't get much better - I rarely even use mine, actually. The thing with radio code is one size does not fit all from what I have seen. So if you want the benefits of having the latest Verizon OTA's, but update and the radio is worse, you are stuck with it, unless a new one comes out that might address it. All I am saying is while root is not life and death for some, it is a very nice luxury.
Security updates are good for the first year or so, but eventually you will not have the most current. (ex stagefright updates on S4). At least you had the option of being current with updates if the maker or carrier chooses to discontinue updates.
Hardware seems to be, like you said, more updated and I will even agree with you saying less of a need to root their cells because of that, but that doesn't mean people would not use that option if root were available.

You guys should sword fight...
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Root is all about customization.
Proper ad blocking (none of this VPN stuff!)
Root explorer with anywhere R.W. access.
Statusbar customization, etc.
Oh, and Titanium Backup!!!
It's nice to have these features.
A custom kernel that would allow tweaking GPU performance so certain apps (games) that ran butter smooth on Snapdragon 600 devices, for example, would run acceptable on this device!
Camera was very good starting with the S6 Edge Plus due to having manual mode. 50 ISO looks amazing if you have the light. And if you don't and your subject is static and you can keep (the phone) still, increase the shutter time.
But with the S7E what pisses me off the most is the overly sensitive touch screen and ridiculous battery drain when the phone is sitting unused.
Fix those two and the device would actually be nice.
Root can come later. Sometimes too late. The VZ Note 4 was recently cracked. Of course mine was sold long ago. I have the TMO version used on AT&T with a custom rom, etc. The works. And that phone still runs very nice and is very usable today.

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[Q] please post your quadrant score

I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
mingkee said:
I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
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I ran the first quadrant within thirty minutes of getting the phone, and it scored 2554 or something like that.
Just ran one and scored... 2463
you have to realize this is the same chip as the XOOM and Atrix but its powering a lower resolution so the quadrant scores will be higher BUT you're at a lower resolution. I have a Xoom and it gets 1800 while this gets 2500. I'd rather have a higher resolution than a higher score. Still you shouldn't have any problems playing games on here.
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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Nobody seems to be getting hung up in this thread?
mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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After scoring 1700 with my Legend with data2ext, I realized that Quadrant scores don't necessarily don't mean much. What I want to see is how much this phone scores in GLBenchmark.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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I don't get your point. How does it mean nothing but also means it's fast? It's a benchmark test. The point of it is to gauge performance, nothing more. Would you have bought one if it scored 850? After all... its a meaningless number.
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Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
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This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
MWBehr said:
I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
djmcnz said:
I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
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I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
MWBehr said:
I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
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Oh? That's quite interesting news to me, thanks. That's a bit of a bummer actually that its not ASOP, I was looking forward to that. Let's hope the cut is shallow and easy to clean.
I hear CM7 is running on x2x so this all may become moot?
Sorry, I didn't read further.. I see the answers here in the forum. Please ignore this post
djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
luckycook82 said:
Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
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In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
djmcnz said:
In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
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Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
jlevy73 said:
Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
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Just one run...
quadrant score
My quadrant score with pauls modaco rom is 3200+ which i am extremely happy with. on stock rom i was getting 26-2700.
>_<
O2x owners get the hell out of our forum! Your devices are programmed differently than ours, you've most likely tweaked your devices in some way (who comes to XDA and does not do so?), and you're confusing the situation.
Out of the box, the G2x from T-MOBILE USA scores about 2400-2500 on Quadrant. End of story.

Got 5.4mb/s after update.

Just wanted to show off. How do I take a screen shot if im not rooted. All the apps in the market say you need root.
Use a digital camera...
There's a way with the SDK, but I don't remember how to do it.
Using the sdk is easy. Once you download it, you can have it setup and working in under ten minutes. It's a pain to have to do it this way, but if you don't want to root, it is a viable option.
http://www.androidcentral.com/taking-screenshots-without-root
Ok, ill just do this....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/56078630.png
So would I just be showing you up if I didn't do update and got over 7 mbps? Lol honestly first time happened for me. I think att upgrading here since it randomly gets terrible then this...
I'm using one of Adams roms. Says name in sig not sure if that helps.. never have changed my radio since whatever it put during rooting process.
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Also why does XDA App upload such crap quality?
while tethering i got this and this picture is actually able to be read lol.
Nice! My ping is still better though
Sorry to burst your bubble....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/56266821.png
Did you get the latest sideloading update or just the hsupa update?
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Just the hsupa, had to download it over wifi
Software v. 1.84.502.11
Ter
BAleR said:
Sorry to burst your bubble....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/56266821.png
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Lol i was just saying I got same without update. I had a 98 ping Sometimes the unreadable picture was on my phone and was 7.3 mbps lol. But anyway just happy getting better
Lol well i guess i forgot lol but ya, it is pretty good, im happy... for the most part....
The sad thing is I ran a speed test on my old iPhone 4 (used by my wife now). First test right off the bat I got 5.2 MB/s down LOL. The "4G" Inspires aren't much faster than the "3G" iPhone 4's due to AT&T's bull****. If I recall correctly the iPhone 4 is HSPA but not HSPA+. The Inspire is theoretically capable of 14.4 MB/s but we're only getting half that if we're lucky. Only when AT&T gets true 4G (LTE) will we start to see the 4G LTE phones start to pull away speed wise. Anyway, 2-4 MB/s is more than enough for most typical smart phone tasks, these days anyway.
henrybravo said:
The sad thing is I ran a speed test on my old iPhone 4 (used by my wife now). First test right off the bat I got 5.2 MB/s down LOL. The "4G" Inspires aren't much faster than the "3G" iPhone 4's due to AT&T's bull****. If I recall correctly the iPhone 4 is HSPA but not HSPA+. The Inspire is theoretically capable of 14.4 MB/s but we're only getting half that if we're lucky. Only when AT&T gets true 4G (LTE) will we start to see the 4G LTE phones start to pull away speed wise. Anyway, 2-4 MB/s is more than enough for most typical smart phone tasks, these days anyway.
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I think everybody streatches the truth(carriers), but it is "mobile" technology but ya 2-3 is just about right, but in this same area my bros iphone4 only gets 1-2 so i was just impressed a lil at first, my G2 in this same area got 8 at best but 7 constantly in my house. 5 when im out and about. And just wondering what type of network is this phone really using? What is umts?
Was wondering what sideloader update? I get roughly 6.5mbps here by the Texas motor speedway.
I have a HTC inspire 4g
Using coredroid 6.6
Also wondering what does overclocking do to your phone?
I have no-frills
And also what does the governer do?
On there is has choices for smartass. What is that????
And many others would someone please let me know what they are and how to properly use them please.
One more thing.... Do they upload ROMS on here for the mobile application?
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yatyas2141 said:
Was wondering what sideloader update? I get roughly 6.5mbps here by the Texas motor speedway.
I have a HTC inspire 4g
Using coredroid 6.6
Also wondering what does overclocking do to your phone?
I have no-frills
And also what does the governer do?
On there is has choices for smartass. What is that????
And many others would someone please let me know what they are and how to properly use them please.
One more thing.... Do they upload ROMS on here for the mobile application?
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-Are you wondering what "sideloader update is"? are are you asking what update did I get?
-Overclocking just raises your CPU to speeds that your phone wasnt originally intended to do. It will make your phone a bit snappier and some things will run faster, but you must be very careful not to raise the CPU level too far, you could damage your phone permanently.
-To overclock you must have a custom "kernel" with the ability to "overclock". If you have flashed a custom rom then chances are you have one. Or you can download one and flash it after the rom, BUT, make sure it is compatible with your rom or could get bootloops and have to restore a backup. ALAWAYS MAKE BACKUPS WITH CLOCKWORK! they will save your life!
-The governer, in my understanding, just tells the CPU what speeds and frequencies to use and when to use them, i always just imagine a highway of cars, the cars would be the information, and the highway the paths to where the information goes, the governer just manages all this information in ways to conserve battery life or just speed things up, Smartass is a Schedular that somebody made that manages it all verry well. and kindof revolutionized linux systems.. or is that BFS?
- Just use smartass as your daily governer. Make a profile for SCREEN OFF in setcpu, use powersave or conservative and put the CPU speeds at 245/345 or somethin low like that. and you should be good.
WHat update? the hsupa update??lol that was like a month ago....
It says I have hsdpa... Am I supposed to have hsupa? I have a inspire 4g running coredroid 6.7. Help please
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LOL you guys are getting those speeds cuz you're from oklahoma
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LOL you guys are getting those speeds cuz you're from oklahoma
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What does that mean? Not as much polution to distort our signals?

About to purchase

Hey all, I am about to purchase this device for my wife (I have the G2X, a working one miracously) and was wondering if HBO Go and Netflix work on the latest 2.3.4 version. I am leaning towards the Sensation for her because she takes a lot of pics and records videos. It is my understanding that the picture and video quality are amazing. Can this be confirmed. Also, any pitfalls I should be made aware of would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Wait till October and get the Hercules. I'm pretty disappointed overall with this device. Sadly....
Issues.
Reception poor (coming from mytouch4g)
Battery ridiculous poor
But it's not all bad. I mean I'm sure in the future custom roms/kernels will get this device to reach its true potential
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Wait till October and get the Hercules. I'm pretty disappointed overall with this device. Sadly....
Issues.
Reception poor (coming from mytouch4g)
Battery ridiculous poor
But it's not all bad. I mean I'm sure in the future custom roms/kernels will get this device to reach its true potential
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Thanks. I felt the same about the G2X, but the devs have really unlocked the potential of that phone. I would imagine the battery is going to be pretty bad with the Hercules as well (G2X isn't awesome). I was under the impression that the software update fixed the reception issue.
@raycaster:
My experience has been the exact opposite of yours. I came to the Sensation from a MT4G and found the battery life and reception to be very similar. In fact, my Sensation's battery lasts longer than the MT4G's. Sorry to hear that your experience hasn't been great.
With regards to Hercules....after an extremely negative experience with the Vibrant, I have trouble trusting Samsung smartphones. Who knows, the Hercules may be the greatest thing since sliced bread when it comes out, but I wouldn't recommend Samsung.
Samsung sucks, my experience with their Craptivate and it's broken GPS, ****ty battery life, Don't get me started on touchwiz and the lag, rfs is the worst file system, I never ran it stock.
I love my Sensation, it's battery is outstanding, I get over a day with medium to heavy usage. I haven't flashed any roms yet because they all have bugs because of the early development. Stock runs great. All I plan to do is flash a deodexed stock Rom so I can then flash some themes until some custom roms are further developed.
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@raycaster:
My experience has been the exact opposite of yours. I came to the Sensation from a MT4G and found the battery life and reception to be very similar. In fact, my Sensation's battery lasts longer than the MT4G's. Sorry to hear that your experience hasn't been great.
With regards to Hercules....after an extremely negative experience with the Vibrant, I have trouble trusting Samsung smartphones. Who knows, the Hercules may be the greatest thing since sliced bread when it comes out, but I wouldn't recommend Samsung.
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Agreed, i think you got a bad device or maybe need to tweak a few setting to get the real potential from ur battery. also try getting your sim swapped. could be why ur having service issues.
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Nice! god battery life!
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Agreed, i think you got a bad device or maybe need to tweak a few setting to get the real potential from ur battery. also try getting your sim swapped. could be why ur having service issues.
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Brand new sim and I compare it to myt4g with the same sim in and on the same wifi I consistently get 5 mbps faster with myt4g. I have since read in the kernel threads (I test beta kernels for myt4g and sensation) and it has just been discovered that not one single custom kernel has been efficiently handling both processors and apps such as setcpu are not functioning properly with this device. Long story short went back to stock kernel and battery is better. BTW what amt of screen on was that 20 hrs? I'm guessing nothing like i would have.
I have about 2.5-3 hrs screen on with about 90 min of music and still get 14 hrs out of myt4g of course I have demonspeed_MOD MIUI, on that device. Sensation 6-8 tops. That's why its sad that myt4g out performs this device (right now) I also understand the nature of development. We're still early. I was REALLY frustrated and it was evident in my post. I just expected more from a $500 device. Guess my standards are too high.
I'm not gonna get rid of it though. Too much potential. Sorry for the negativity in my previous post.
If you're not paying full price for it its worth the shot fornthe potential.
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[Q] Satisfaction with N5?

I've got a few questions about the N5 if you folks don't mind answering. Any input would be greatly appreciated
How satisfied are you with your N5, both in terms of the body and performance? Easy to operate with one hand?
What is the default DPI? My Moto G is 320, wishing it was better than that.
I've got a Moto G, and I have enough system UI FCs with both the CM and Paranoid ROM that it is quite annoying and I am back on stock, unrooted (since I never can find flashable zips of the stock ROMs). Even like that if I dirty flash the latest RC/M release. How stable are the RC/M releases of CM and Paranoid on the N5? Any kinds of errors or problems of any sort?
How good is the battery life? I don't have a data plan, don't make very many calls (less than one a day on average and then they are normally only a few minutes), and barely use GPS/Bluetooth, so the only battery drain would be using apps and wifi. I'd say I probably use anywhere from 3-5 hours of on screen time on a heavy days use, based on the battery stats I see when I check it on my Moto G from time to time.
If I root the N5, without flashing a custom ROM or recovery, can it still receive OTA Android updates?
Does Google have a good history of supporting it's older devices with OS updates (all nexus, even the old school ones before the Nexus 4, and GPE type devices, for example)? Afterall, I don't want to buy it and find out that a year from now Google won't be upgrading it to the latest OS. I know there are always custom ROMs to accomplish that, but I know sometimes they aren't always as stable when a device doesn't have an official OS upgrade released.
scottharris4 said:
What is the default DPI? My Moto G is 320, wishing it was better than that.
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I'm not answering most of your questions because they've all been answered before.
This question though, doesn't make sense. DPI isn't better or worse. Perhaps you don't understand what DPI is so I'll help with that.
dpi explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51520848
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rootSU said:
I'm not answering most of your questions because they've all been answered before.
This question though, doesn't make sense. DPI isn't better or worse. Perhaps you don't understand what DPI is so I'll help with that.
dpi explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51520848
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Guess I should have been more clear. I meant better as in lower so I can fit more on the screen. 320 dpi on the moto g makes everything bigger than I prefer. I had it at 245 when I was rooted on a custom ROM.
1. extremely satisfied, really. in cant say anything bad about it.
2. there are much better roms than cm or paranoid. stop looking at whats popular, as popular is rarely best.
3. i see 5 hours screen on time every day. but battery life is determined by how youy personally use the phone, how you personally set it up, what apps you use, and very much the quality of data/phone signal that you get.
4. if you root your phone, without changing any files at all, you can receive and apply an ota. but once you change 1 file, you wont be able to flash an ota. but thats ok, you can always flash manually.
5. google has an extraordinary history of supporting its devices. we have even had google engineers help us with nexus devices on xda before
about stability and roms, nexus devices arent like the others. the public source is always available to a nexus, so no modding needed. on older devices, that google has stopped supporting, aosp will still work on them, its only the binaries that dont get pushed out anymore.
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scottharris4 said:
Guess I should have been more clear. I meant better as in lower so I can fit more on the screen. 320 dpi on the moto g makes everything bigger than I prefer. I had it at 245 when I was rooted on a custom ROM.
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now see, you see that as "better", where i see that as far worse.
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about stability and roms, nexus devices arent like the others. the public source is always available to a nexus, so no modding needed. on older devices, that google has stopped supporting, aosp will still work on them, its only the binaries that dont get pushed out anymore.
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So do the binaries not getting updated effect the ability to give a complete OS upgrade?
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So do the binaries not getting updated effect the ability to give a complete OS upgrade?
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in a way, yes, as the binaries will never get updated. but in another way no, as on the gnex, nexus s, and nexus one actually they are just reusing the older binaries with the new os versions.
simms22 said:
in a way, yes, as the binaries will never get updated. but in another way no, as on the gnex, nexus s, and nexus one actually they are just reusing the older binaries with the new os versions.
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So what would old binaries prevent?
Also, if I rooted and changed my DPI, would that prevent an OTA update?
scottharris4 said:
So what would old binaries prevent?
Also, if I rooted and changed my DPI, would that prevent an OTA update?
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new features, code?
yea, changing anything will prevent you from flashing an ota. youll still receive the ota, just wont be able to flash it. again, its extremely easy to flash it manually, you dont have to look for otas. manually, you can even flash the new update even before you get the ota. and you dont need root to flash manually.
scottharris4 said:
So what would old binaries prevent?
Also, if I rooted and changed my DPI, would that prevent an OTA update?
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Mann you're thinking too much. If you can wait, I'll surely suggest you to look into the next possible nexus codenamed "Shamu" which has entered the rumorland.
Yes, it would. DPI needs to be changed in the build.prop file which is a system file.
vin4yak said:
Mann you're thinking too much. If you can wait, I'll surely suggest you to look into the next possible nexus codenamed "Shamu" which has entered the rumorland.
Yes, it would. DPI needs to be changed in the build.prop file which is a system file.
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If the rumor is true about the screen size of the Nexus 6, that thing is going to be too damn big for my liking.
I like everything about the nexus 5 EXCEPT: LTE problems. Signal stability in LTE is poor. Sometimes with LTE on, I cannot make a phone call or get "data not available" errors. A power down/up fixes the problem (sometimes toggling airplane mode also fixes but not always). Everywhere I get 1 bar of LTE I get 3bars or better with my Blackberry Q10 phone. Where I get 3-4 bars of LTE on the Nexus, download speeds of 33MB/sec while I get 47 MB/Sec with my Blackberry.
And that is my only issue as I like the Nexus 5 in all other aspects.
Neither Google nor TMO could fix this LTE issue (it is a known issue if you check the web but TMO says it is not a known issue). I am waiting for a callback from Google-they will probably send me another (which most likely won't work well either).
I have a stock OS (4.4.4), bootloader unlocked, rooted and have installed Xposed modules (Gravity, Xblast ).
AndroidMilos said:
I like everything about the nexus 5 EXCEPT: LTE problems. Signal stability in LTE is poor. Sometimes with LTE on, I cannot make a phone call or get "data not available" errors. A power down/up fixes the problem (sometimes toggling airplane mode also fixes but not always). Everywhere I get 1 bar of LTE I get 3bars or better with my Blackberry Q10 phone. Where I get 3-4 bars of LTE on the Nexus, download speeds of 33MB/sec while I get 47 MB/Sec with my Blackberry.
And that is my only issue as I like the Nexus 5 in all other aspects.
Neither Google nor TMO could fix this LTE issue (it is a known issue if you check the web but TMO says it is not a known issue). I am waiting for a callback from Google-they will probably send me another (which most likely won't work well either).
I have a stock OS (4.4.4), bootloader unlocked, rooted and have installed Xposed modules (Gravity, Xblast ).
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its NOT an issue with the phone, it could very well be an issue with your local network. oh, and you cant compare bars.. first, those bars tell you about phone signal, not data. secondly, every manufacturer use their own codes for the bars. one phones 1 bar could be equal to another phones 3 bars. oh, and xposed causes many undocumented issues. depending what you are using it for, it might very well play a role in your issues.
scottharris4 said:
Guess I should have been more clear. I meant better as in lower so I can fit more on the screen. 320 dpi on the moto g makes everything bigger than I prefer. I had it at 245 when I was rooted on a custom ROM.
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Yes but the moto g is a different phone with a different PPI. Knowing the DPI of the nexus 5 tells you nothing. But you can still change it.
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So satisfied I just bought another one.
Yes I'm satisfied, except for the camera and for the battery...
Fabiceju said:
Yes I'm satisfied, except for the camera and for the battery...
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What's wrong with the camera?
Fabiceju said:
Yes I'm satisfied, except for the camera and for the battery...
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whats wrong with the camera? and the battery?
battery life is all about how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you use, and the quality of your phone/data connection. if that quality is only so so, then no matter what you do, your battery life will only be so so.
and some images from the past 48 hours.. maybe you need a lesson about how to use the camera?
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whats wrong with the camera? and the battery?
battery life is all about how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you use, and the quality of your phone/data connection. if that quality is only so so, then no matter what you do, your battery life will only be so so.
and some images from the past 48 hours.. maybe you need a lesson about how to use the camera?
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About the battery life...i do an intensive use of the phone.. I use app like greenify and quarantine to disable the app/services that I don't use... I also flash ElementalX kernel to improve performance and battery life..But a 3000mah battery could be awesome... About the camera... Producers like Sony or HTC are soooo far better about camera lens.. And NO, I don't need lesson from you
But I agree that, for 349 euros (dollars) LG can't do more (excepet a bigger battery)
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Fabiceju said:
About the battery life...i do an intensive use of the phone.. I use app like greenify and quarantine to disable the app/services that I don't use... I also flash ElementalX kernel to improve performance and battery life..But a 3000mah battery could be awesome... About the camera... Producers like Sony or HTC are soooo far better about camera lens.. And NO, I don't need lesson from you
But I agree that, for 349 euros (dollars) LG can't do more (excepet a bigger battery)
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i know its a thing that continues to be told over and over.. kernels wont improve your battery life. its an untruth. if it was true, every single person would be using the same "magic" kernel. i will get the exact same battery life on any kernel. regardless if it has "battery saving" code included or not. if you set up your cpu, on any kernel, the same, you'll get the same battery life. and my battery life is great, i get 5 hours screen on time no matter what. thats more than most lg g2 users get, and thats a 3000mah battery. it doesnt matter if you use apps like greenify or not, if your setup or phone/data signals arent good, youll have lousy battery life.
about the cam.. the camera isnt some expensive camera for professional use, its a mobile phone camera. and its not the top mobile phone camera either. but it is near the top, and takes great photos. if you are a person that actually knows how to use a camera, not just point and click, then the camera should should be quite more than just adequate for you. give me a camera, even the worst, and ill privide you with great photos.
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About the battery life...i do an intensive use of the phone.. I use app like greenify and quarantine to disable the app/services that I don't use... I also flash ElementalX kernel to improve performance and battery life..But a 3000mah battery could be awesome... About the camera... Producers like Sony or HTC are soooo far better about camera lens.. And NO, I don't need lesson from you
But I agree that, for 349 euros (dollars) LG can't do more (excepet a bigger battery)
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I totally agree with you.. I didn't want to be rude with you.. I'm not an expert with camera settings
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what's the point of a custom kernal?

I am fairly new to rooting and have the op7pro rooted and was wondering what the deal is custom kernals and what the benefits are and how hard it is to use one
Its modification of the stock kernal that can provide extra features, improve performance and battery life. They all are a bit different and there really inst a better one of them all. Its all personal preference so I recommend giving them all a try for a few days and see how your phone performs.
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Its modification of the stock kernal that can provide extra features, improve performance and battery life. They all are a bit different and there really inst a better one of them all. Its all personal preference so I recommend giving them all a try for a few days and see how your phone performs.
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I've seen a lot of good things about elementalx and I just installed it and followed it's instructions and flashed it and should I mess with any options or just leave it as is?
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I've seen a lot of good things about elementalx and I just installed it and followed it's instructions and flashed it and should I mess with any options or just leave it as is?
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I personally don't mess with any settings but if you happen to I recommend referencing https://androidmodguide.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html?m=1 so you know what each option does. Also if you want to flash another kernal you can still use EXKM to manage the kernal.
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I am fairly new to rooting and have the op7pro rooted and was wondering what the deal is custom kernals and what the benefits are and how hard it is to use one
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Kernels allow you to modify the governor's behavior or use alternatives, boost parameters, clock speed, memory thresholds, block wakelocks, under or overclock, etc. They're often accompanied by newer drivers (ex. Wlan from CAF), Linux upstreams, fixes from QC, new features like k lapse, and so on.
CPU governors and boost can be tailored to be aggressive or passive. I'm more concerned with endurance than scores, so the latter suits me.
I have mixed feelings on custom kernels nowadays. I used to be enthusiastic, but eventually realized that every rose has its thorns. Some custom kernels are truly excellent on certain phones. Some phones just don't play nice with custom kernels, and you could lose features until you flash a different kernel. Modern Android stock kernels are stock for a reason, in the same sense that some wearable things are "one size fits all". The good thing is that kernels are super easy to flash on a bootloader unlocked & rooted phone!
Which kernal is ultimate speed? Some guy benchmarked 440,000 on atutu, I max out 380k
djhulk2 said:
Which kernal is ultimate speed? Some guy benchmarked 440,000 on atutu, I max out 380k
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Flash smurf kernel, you can try its gaming mode.
It is easy to flash and it has an app to change setting.
Im using firefox on balanced mode, my phone is consuming about 5% battery per hour.
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I'm assuming you can under volt these phones and get better battery life too with custom kernel?
equlizer said:
I'm assuming you can under volt these phones and get better battery life too with custom kernel?
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No, and no need to anyway :good:
(This with stock kernel by the way )
Pfeffernuss said:
No, and no need to anyway :good:
(This with stock kernel by the way )
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What all have you disabled/done to achieve this?
That also means nothing without the battery graph as the user could have partially charged the phone and that doesn't rest anything until the phone is fully charged to 100%. Not saying he can't get that, I'm getting 9 to 10 hours sot per charge. Just need to show the battery graph too.
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I personally don't mess with any settings but if you happen to I recommend referencing <link removed bc im new please see op> so you know what each option does. Also if you want to flash another kernal you can still use EXKM to manage the kernal.
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That was a great read. I will read through it again if I decide to select a custom kernel.
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I am fairly new to rooting and have the op7pro rooted and was wondering what the deal is custom kernals and what the benefits are and how hard it is to use one
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Different optimizations.
Preciously it meant over clocking.
But currently you can turn off things like ZRAM and swap.
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No, and no need to anyway :good:
(This with stock kernel by the way )
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What are your settings? Ram boost enabled?qhd/90hz?
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That also means nothing without the battery graph as the user could have partially charged the phone and that doesn't rest anything until the phone is fully charged to 100%. Not saying he can't get that, I'm getting 9 to 10 hours sot per charge. Just need to show the battery graph too.
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Sick at home. Dark room. Surfin' & textin' mainly :good:
(Stock rom, stock kernel, QHD, 90Hz, using Lux @ 8 percent brightness)
Sky dragon kernel is the way to go

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