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Hey there,
I am looking for a new phone, kinda fed up with my previous Galaxy Wonder which was bought considering budget limits, but now I'm on to buying a new phone, for myself and for my mother.
For me, performance is the most important thing, a phone that I can keep for a couple of years without headaches, and for my mother Camera is the most important thing- she wants quality pictures with sharp images. I guess a phone which has both would be the better choice. I have come to the conclusion that just looking at MP doesn't tell you how good the camera really is (my 5 MP Carl Zeiss Nokia was way better than my friends 8 MP Sony Ericsson at the time, or it seems iPhones take very sharp pictures). So what phones do you recommend we buy (Do you guys consider iPhones and Microsoft phones like Nokia as well?)
Thankyou
Samsung Galaxy Note 4, has an incredible camera, crystal clear photo's
Note4fan said:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4, has an incredible camera, crystal clear photo's
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Galaxy S5 is great too. 16MP stills and 1080p/30fps video. GSM Arena ranked it second and first for stills and video respectively. Also a good all around phone, if you don't care about using the stock Android UI!
Have a look at the Galaxy K Zoom. It's designed as a camera that you can also use as a phone, not the 'phone with a camera'.
Alternatively, the Note 4 has a good sensor, too. And it is the most powerful phone available on the market. You can keep using that without any headaches for at least 3-4 years as high-end, and mid-end for another 2-4 after that.
The most important thing to look at for camera quality is the sensor size. The bigger the sensor, the better the photographs.
The best camera phone are the Nokia Lumia, if you want Microsoft OS, or the Xperia z3 if you want android; the latest has pretty performance and battery life, but I'm sorry I don't know nothing about Nokia because I don't like the OS let me know what will you buy :thumbup:
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Note 4 is HUGE, i don't call those things phones tbh! and it is very expensive.
What about Xperia Z3 and Galaxy S5? Any opinions on those?
ShadowLea said:
Galaxy K Zoom. It's designed as a camera that you can also use as a phone, not the 'phone with a camera'.
The most important thing to look at for camera quality is the sensor size. The bigger the sensor, the better the photographs.
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Great advise! How can I find the sensor size for a phone? Cuz I didn't see such a thing on GSM Arena Phone Specs.
K Zoom seems a fine phone, but low CPU and lots of complaints about dust getting into the phone and other issues by its users.
flywheels said:
Galaxy S5 is great too. 16MP stills and 1080p/30fps video. GSM Arena ranked it second and first for stills and video respectively. Also a good all around phone, if you don't care about using the stock Android UI!
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Well we don't mind the current UI we have now, is there anything that annoying about S5's UI that I should worry about?
goldendye said:
Great advise! How can I find the sensor size for a phone? Cuz I didn't see such a thing on GSM Arena Phone Specs.
K Zoom seems a fine phone, but low CPU and lots of complaints about dust getting into the phone and other issues by its users.
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Right, I'd forgotten that the K Zoom only comes in the Exynos variant. Sorry about that.
Sometimes GSMArena does list the sensor size, It's under Camera > Features if they do. (For instance on the HTC M8 (1/3'' sensor size).) In some cases they list the sensor size in the review of the phone.
Sadly, it mostly comes down to Googling " [phone name] Sensor size".
The one in the Note 4 and S5 are 1/2.6”. The Note 4 also has Optical Image Stabilisation, which adds a clear advantage in terms of image quality.
HTC M8 and iPhone 5S are 1/3".
With sensors under 1", the lower the number behind the /, the better. (So 2.6 is better than 3). Admittedly sensor size isn't everything, but it's the deciding factor when it comes to sharpness, particularly in less than full-light conditions.
I have an explanation on sensor importance *somewhere*, let me dig around for it.. Edit: Ah, here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50953511&postcount=6
I remember one Lumia had a very good camera
honestly i always think iphone cam is not bad. but if if its android htc definitely have a decent cam
best detailing in note 4
best color reproduction and dynamic range in iphone 6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/best-camera-smartphone-comparisons-t2901826
ShadowLea said:
Sadly, it mostly comes down to Googling " [phone name] Sensor size".
The one in the Note 4 and S5 are 1/2.6”. The Note 4 also has Optical Image Stabilisation, which adds a clear advantage in terms of image quality.
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Aha, so according to his:
Z3: 1/2.3 and , 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
s5: 1/2.6 and, 5312 x 2988 pixels, 16 MP
K Zoom (as the ideal camera): 1/2.3, 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
Clearly, Z3 is the best of three. Its camera is better than S5, and the same as K Zoom. it is smaller in size, less weight (16 grams), 0.7 inch smaller Screen (which is actually a positive feature for me), better Androind version, also will upgrade to 5.0, has radio, fast charging, none of the nonsense apps of Samsung which i really hate, better performance rate
But S5 has a one third better screen quality, Corning Gorilla Glass (I'm not sure if this is better than IPS), microUSB 3.0 (I don't think that's really important), dual video recording (maybe an app can compensate for this), better battery, and it seems it is much more efficient (21 hrs talk time compared to 12 on z3!!), better contrast ratio (i dont care)
Same chipset, same CPU, same GPU, but the endurance rate on z3 is 101h compared to 72h on S5, I don't know what that is.
I think I have chosen my phone , except the battery worries me.
goldendye said:
Aha, so according to his:
Z3: 1/2.3 and , 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
s5: 1/2.6 and, 5312 x 2988 pixels, 16 MP
K Zoom (as the ideal camera): 1/2.3, 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
Clearly, Z3 is the best of three. Its camera is better than S5, and the same as K Zoom. it is smaller in size, less weight (16 grams), 0.7 inch smaller Screen (which is actually a positive feature for me), better Androind version, also will upgrade to 5.0, has radio, fast charging, none of the nonsense apps of Samsung which i really hate, better performance rate
But S5 has a one third better screen quality, Corning Gorilla Glass (I'm not sure if this is better than IPS), microUSB 3.0 (I don't think that's really important), dual video recording (maybe an app can compensate for this), better battery, and it seems it is much more efficient (21 hrs talk time compared to 12 on z3!!), better contrast ratio (i dont care)
Same chipset, same CPU, same GPU, but the endurance rate on z3 is 101h compared to 72h on S5, I don't know what that is.
I think I have chosen my phone , except the battery worries me.
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Are you looking at the Z3 or the Z3 Compact? From the specs i'd say the Compact, correct?
The reason the S5 has a better batterylife is because of the AMOLED screen. AMOLED has the advantage that black pixels are off as opposed to dark grey, meaning they don't drain power. (AMOLED is also more colour intensive and crisper.)
Contrast ratio is simply because of the darkest grey vs turned off pixels. AMOLED is the only type of screen capable of true black. Oh and it has a higher readability in direct sunlight.
IPS is a type of display, not a type of glass. Corning Gorrila Glass (3) is very tough, but I don't know what's on the Z3 or how it holds out in tests. You can always look up droptests on Youtube.
MicroUSB3 isn't important, as the MTP protocol slows down transfer speed right down to the USB2 values anyway. Samsung dropped USB3 on newer devices.
The S5 doesn't have a radio, no. That bothers a great many of us, myself included.
The Snapdragon 801 is the part that has the fast charging. All S801 devices have it.
Touchwiz is a waste of time and space, on that I fully agree. (They laughed at me when I told them so, though.) Fortunately they've changed the principle a bit so that it doesn't come with 100 bloatware anymore, but there's still some of it installed. Mainly, Touchwiz. (ugh!)
The S5 has KNOX, which you can't not trip whilst flashing custom roms. It voids your warranty.
In terms of security the S5 has a fingerprint scanner.
There's one other thing to the S5 I should mention, and that's the disgustingly ugly UI colour scheme. Which you can't change.
the tl:dr version:
- The S5 screen is AMOLED, which turns black pixels off. That doubles the battery life.
- IPS is a type of LCD display, (The S5 has AMOLED) Gorrilla Glass is a type of treated scratch resistent glass.
- All Snapdragon 801 devices have Fast Charging.
- USB3 is a waste, MTP doesn't allow USB3 speed.
- The Z3 has a radio.
- S5 has KNOX.(negative thing.)
Simply put the S5 has a better, brighter and crisper screen with better battery life; the Z3 is more compact, has a better camera and an FM radio.
You can also read these two and compare the photo's for a decent camera comparison.
Z3 Compact: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-review-1135p8.php
S5: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-review-1064p9.php
Is the fact that Z3 Compact has non-removable battery a fact to worry about?
Obviously, Lumia has better camera. But if you want it with better performance and battery life. Z3 would be a better choice.
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Obviously, Lumia has better camera. But if you want it with better performance and battery life. Z3 would be a better choice.
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I don't think it does, because it's a 10 MP camera with 1/3.4" sensor size. Although yes, it is Carl Zeiss.
goldendye said:
Hey there,
I am looking for a new phone, kinda fed up with my previous Galaxy Wonder which was bought considering budget limits, but now I'm on to buying a new phone, for myself and for my mother.
For me, performance is the most important thing, a phone that I can keep for a couple of years without headaches, and for my mother Camera is the most important thing- she wants quality pictures with sharp images. I guess a phone which has both would be the better choice. I have come to the conclusion that just looking at MP doesn't tell you how good the camera really is (my 5 MP Carl Zeiss Nokia was way better than my friends 8 MP Sony Ericsson at the time, or it seems iPhones take very sharp pictures). So what phones do you recommend we buy (Do you guys consider iPhones and Microsoft phones like Nokia as well?)
Thankyou
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CAMERA
A $100-200 dedicated camera takes much better pictures than any smartphone ever could (especially with 10x+ optical zoom). Your mum would be better off with such a camera in addition to a smartphone. At any rate, all flagships have "good enough" cameras with not a lot to choose between them. Mid-range and budget models often sacrifice the camera to meet their price points (one reason buying used high-end flagships is an option to consider).
OS
For some people iPhones/WindowsPhones/Blackberry/etc are taken into consideration particularly for the convenience of having the manufacturer control everything so you don't have to. For others, the somewhat open [source] nature of Android is paramount - it permits options that the other platforms actively prevent e.g. custom roms, privacy controls, customizations.
PERFORMANCE
You say performance is the most important thing. What level of performance?. I'll bet that a Samsung Galaxy S2 (yes S2...not S3, S4 or S5) is plenty fast enough for most people today and the Moto G is faster than that. So, is a Moto G performant enough for you? Or is it more like Nexus 5? Perhaps you need Note 4's level of performance? What activities requires the most performance on your phone currently and for the next couple of years?
Personally, I rate water/dust resistance highly (Xperia Acro S, Xperia Z/Z1/Z2/Z3/M2 Aqua, Galaxy S5, HTC Butterfly2). A 720p screen should be minimum now that the 1st gen Moto G exists. I prefer both a microsd slot and a removable battery. I would certainly want both if paying for a high-end device.
The Xperia Z3/Z3C, HTC Butterfly2, Samsung S5, Nexus 5/6 are all contenders if flagship devices are what you want. If you want to pay less, the Moto G and used flagships (Galaxy S3/S3/Note3, Xperia Z1/Z2, Nexus 5) are good options.
I need a replacement phone right now and I struggle between those two. I gernarly prefer HTC becouse of the design, sense, and the community support. How ever Z3 is around the price,6 month newer and has higher specs. Help me to make a decision please!
Z3 has 3gb of ram. Wuyh lollipop coming that eats a lotof ram, yoy will really need that quantity ti be futur proof. Htc m8 has only 2.
Plus z3 has vetter camera 20.3 MP unlike the 4 MP camera if HTC. The inly main advantage if thehtc is its design. But personelly I don't find the z3 any less beautifu.
Last but notleast, the epic battery of the z3 3100 mah.
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Z3 has 3gb of ram. Wuyh lollipop coming that eats a lotof ram, yoy will really need that quantity ti be futur proof. Htc m8 has only 2.
Plus z3 has vetter camera 20.3 MP unlike the 4 MP camera if HTC. The inly main advantage if thehtc is its design. But personelly I don't find the z3 any less beautifu.
Last but notleast, the epic battery of the z3 3100 mah.
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But what about this loosing DRM crap that Sony annoys you with? And also I am concerned about updates since Sony pushes out 2 phones a year I am worried they will forget about it soon. M8 has a google play edition so their is at least always that.
Actually because Sony only produces a smaller amount of products they are better and quicker to release with the only exception being GPEs, all being equal I would take the Z3 over the M8 hands down as with lollipops new raw format for images the DRM keys for Sony's special camera won't really matter.
One last thing and my only gripe with the Z3 is the button placement is awkward (physical buttons) they are low and geared towards one hand use but it took me a long while to adjust... Go hold one to see what I'm talking about.
switch from the m8 2 months ago and havent looked back. the z3 is a better phone in many aspects, its faster, has a much superior camera, bigger screen, it lays flat on the table, its easy to grip and doesnt slide from your hand...
I do wish it had an IR blaster and was easier to root but still I am willing to live with this. The speakers are not as good as the m8 but still really good, especially being waterproof. The Z3 is also about the same size as the m8 in terms of width and height but is much thinnery and doesnt have the awkward curve at the back and slippery surface.
Don't worry about updates for the z3. it will likely be the same next year as it is this year.
- Directly from Sony
"We’ll be making Sony Mobile’s Android “L” upgrade available for the entire premium Z series*: including Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z1, Xperia Z1S, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Compact, Xperia Z2, Xperia Z2 Tablet, Xperia Z3, Xperia Z3v, Xperia Z3 Compact and Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact. Sony Z Ultra Google Play edition devices will be first up – we’ll be back with more details on that soon.
We’ll start the upgrade at beginning of 2015 for the core Xperia Z3 and Xperia Z2 series – continuing thereafter for all remaining devices above."
If you like Sense, you may need to get used to Sony's take on Android. In the interest of full disclosure, I've owned 3 Sonys (T, Z1 Compact and now a Z3), and I love their UI. Anyway, my daughter had an HTC M7, which died recently so she got my Z1c... but that is the second bad experience I've had with HTC.
Stamina mode with Sony is as good as it gets for saving the battery.
For the build quality, you might find them similar. I always find Sony's to be very good.
For the Camera (DRM issue), there is a thread in here where someone tested the low light quality (I guess that's what most the fuss is about) and said there was hardly a difference. I can't speak to the change in quality myself.
Personally, if camera is not a big deal I think The M8 is better.
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Having owned both I have to say that both are excellent phones.
I am very hesitant to put either of the phones over other one. First when I changed from M8 I just hated how Z3 UI looked, too big icons etc. I am now used to this and I find that especially battery is much better on Z3 and this really important.
I hope that more manufacturers start to pay attention to the battery life over how the phones perform. Nexus 6 is a good example. I couldn't care less how much they score on the benchmark tests if the battery is dead by afternoon.
First up, I admit that I don't own the M* but I have tried it in the hand borrowed from a friend. It lacked the 'love at first sight' effect for me.
The Z3 is a much better looking device, more symmetry, more balanced, flat on a surface, razor thin with a brilliant battery to tow. It really is the only device that can make iOS users turn their heads. Also, if you are a brand conscious guy/gal then Sony commands a kind of respect only bested or matched by Apple. The thing is waterproof as well. Has more RAM for better multitasking, brighter display with cool enhancements in gallery and video like x reality boosting. The display can go darker too for reading at night. The camera will show more detail, better for zooming in, cropping, throwing to a large high res display and for a more overall positive accumulated effect. The hardware button is a great addition esp for underwater shots and quick firing the camera from sleep. The low light capability is currently next to none amongst flagships (near dark scenarios). The only gripe I have with the cam is that HTC and iPhones snap images faster, making the user experience more effortless. Magnetic charging is just a bonus. Did I say the battery is really good? Finally, the M9 may debut so getting an M8 may lose novelty sooner than a Z3. Although the Z4 may or may not be round the corner too.
TLDR? The Z3 hands down. No competition.
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First up, I admit that I don't own the M* but I have tried it in the hand borrowed from a friend. It lacked the 'love at first sight' effect for me.
The Z3 is a much better looking device, more symmetry, more balanced, flat on a surface, razor thin with a brilliant battery to tow. It really is the only device that can make iOS users turn their heads. Also, if you are a brand conscious guy/gal then Sony commands a kind of respect only bested or matched by Apple. The thing is waterproof as well. Has more RAM for better multitasking, brighter display with cool enhancements in gallery and video like x reality boosting. The display can go darker too for reading at night. The camera will show more detail, better for zooming in, cropping, throwing to a large high res display and for a more overall positive accumulated effect. The hardware button is a great addition esp for underwater shots and quick firing the camera from sleep. The low light capability is currently next to none amongst flagships (near dark scenarios). The only gripe I have with the cam is that HTC and iPhones snap images faster, making the user experience more effortless. Magnetic charging is just a bonus. Did I say the battery is really good? Finally, the M9 may debut so getting an M8 may lose novelty sooner than a Z3. Although the Z4 may or may not be round the corner too.
TLDR? The Z3 hands down. No competition.
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I should point out that M8 was released before Z2 even came out. I know it because I had pre-ordered Z2 originally but since I couldn't wait I went and bought M8 from the shop.
So M8 novelty has already been much longer there than it was with Z2.
I also disagree about the design. Z3 is gorgeous, but M8 is even more beautiful.
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I should point out that M8 was released before Z2 even came out. I know it because I had pre-ordered Z2 originally but since I couldn't wait I went and bought M8 from the shop.
So M8 novelty has already been much longer there than it was with Z2.
I also disagree about the design. Z3 is gorgeous, but M8 is even more beautiful.
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M8 announcement: 25/3/14
Z2 announcement: 24/2/14
So your point is?
Let's be honest here. You like the M8, buy the M8. You like Sony, get the Sony. Pointless to argue.
lee480 said:
M8 announcement: 25/3/14
Z2 announcement: 24/2/14
So your point is?
Let's be honest here. You like the M8, buy the M8. You like Sony, get the Sony. Pointless to argue.
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I thought that Nokia already taught you that announcement and availability are two different things. M8 was able to purchase in April, Z2 came in May.
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I thought that Nokia already taught you that announcement and availability are two different things. M8 was able to purchase in April, Z2 came in May.
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You expect the availability date for your country to blanket worldwide? Fat hope, ranger rick.
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lee480 said:
You expect the availability date for your country to blanket worldwide? Fat hope, ranger rick.
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Nope, and you except that I don't know how to shop online? Slim chance buzz lightyear
Hello guys. I have Xperia X model right now, thinking of upgrading to XZ. For the current owners, i have a question about the manual camera. It goes full manual on all resolutions or only on 8Mp mode? Is manual focus better than auto focus in macro photography? My Xperia X has a big macro focus distance in photo mode, but it can focus closer and much faster in video, so my guess is that with manual focus, i can reach the sensor limitations. And how is photo quality in general? I used all modes possible, but i am still not impressed by xperia X quality, it's about 2015 top tier cameras, but nowhere near s7, g5, nexus 6p. Not even huawei p9 level. Is xz better in this aspect? i am not talking about fast focus, or good image stabilisation in videos. I am talking about pure quality photos, low noise, good processing and colours. Thanks in advance and sorry for my poor english, i am from Europe.
Being from Europe is absolutely no excuse for not knowing English =P But u did pretty well IMHO.
XZ manual mode is enabled on full 23MP and pretty much everything expect scene recognition is available at max resolution. About manual focus - its not better or beyond normal AF, only different, i guess, is that you can set minimal macro focus and then adjust phone distans until you catch it. Thats not much improvent in my opinion...
If I were you, i would wait until next year for next flagship, unless you have buyer for your Xperia X with good price
EDIT: I have checked macro manual focus distans and my XZ is capable of focusing on object about 11cm far from lenses.
I would get the new 5 inch pixel, but it's butt ugly. There's no other phone in 2016 that i would get...
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I would get the new 5 inch pixel, but it's butt ugly. There's no other phone in 2016 that i would get...
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With this I highly agree. I had so much hope with XZ but it went down when they announced it.
Not because of the design or manual camera. It's just the battery life. I think Sony should go back to 3000+ mAh.
Don't you think?
I get pretty decent battery life despite the average battery size. The XZ consistently performs better than its specs would have you believe (everywhere except camera lol).
Alright guys XZ it is thanks for everyone responded to me and shared his opinion/experience
For know please let me know if there are any known/common issues that maybe some units has to avoid especially since I am probably getting a "used XZ" :good:
For example I remember for Z5 many units had blurry left side in picture taken by rear camera, also screen bleeding, dead pixels ect..
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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I don't know about google pixel ,but the camera of xz i notice by myself is superior by the others. Lg g6 have worst camera than g5, in more moments is worst than midrange. But on wide angle cameras panoramas is good. Of course on wideangle distortion can became in some situation very visible (the distortion on sonyies are for wideangle lens but there are not that visible). But xz destroys g6 on camera...day and night photos. Galaxy s7 produces false photos. The photos on his amoled screen seems great but on reality have more defect. Too filters applied. Yellow and reddish photos .. For example a summer photo of a lake , became autumn photo of lake,thanks to samsung filters. On night photos is easy to shoot with this device but with some burned dettails. Xz on day destroys s7, on night depends . Xz produces more dettailed photos than s7. But s7 have ois and some photos on night are easier to shoot. One plus 3t have a mid range camera ....is a phone studied for modding expecially. Talking about xz i think is the most stable phone in my opinion ...probably op3t is on similar level. I reccomand xz expecially for stability and less problems. I have some friends with s7 and g6 and they have a lot of problems . For alternative to xz i reccomand op3t if you find one. Is the one with less problems like xz. Xz use great the snapdragon 820. 821 is the same processor with only better energy use. But sony,thanks to his great optimizzation, make tha 820 less battery drainer, like 821. Every month Sony release security patches there, before of most OEM. Device have very good performance and very good battery. Signal is great there, one of better phones to have best signal (i think better than your alternatieves). Modding is good there but not one of best(but it seems grow). Ram seems doesn't have any problems .Phone is rock stable and very fluid . Sony optimizzation is the best in my opinion. It doesn't have raw ...but post processing is very natural. Raw seems enable only on aosp roms. If you doesn't worry about modding, give a look on xzs. More ram,loops ui, xzp and xz1 camera with all great new features. But no modding. If you want, give me all questions about xz. I'm very happy with my xz.
Hi,
Also consider screen size.. the XZ is rather small compare to G6, OP3t.
Then it's also Amoled vs LCD but maybe more personal?
The only thing I'm not really happy with mine is battery life, was used to more for a Sony phone, you have to tinker around to get something acceptable. Also would have prefer an Amoled screen since I read a lot so once again better for battery
Personally I would pass on the G6, XDA thread seems empty and LG support bad..
Pixel camera would be the best I guess, but you loose waterproofing.
Then it's Sony over Samsung for me for the "media" experience, sound, ldac bT etc
Also camera is actually really good. Auto is OK+ but manual gives really good shot when you know what you do.
Sony need manual settings to take good pic in low light. XZ have the best display in the market now. Super bright red and clear white. Other colors are naturals and clear. Its no juicy like Amoled or washed like other TFTs. I had G5 with screen burn problem. It have too many phones G5 and V10 with this problem. I dont know for G6 but look at it. Pixel have no IP 68 and its no interesting for me.
One Plus - no thanks. So so tricky warranty service.
S7 is stupid. I feel it in hand like a soap. And Samy dont cover under warranty water damages. I have frend in official Samy service here in Bulgaria and he told me that IP 68 nevermind. Its nothing for Samy. Just commercials.
For me thats a 100% not recommended, looking at the alternatives you posted above; go for the pixel without hesitation. I've used both, the XZ is inferior in almost every aspect except for waterproofing.
Dont get me started on overheating and battery issues, i just came back from a hot area where the phone was almost unusable just because i was standing in the sun for a little bit; once the phone temperature hits 42, forget about being productive anymore, for me this disadvantage is bigger than all the advantages above (even if it had the best camera, screen, speakers etc...) since i cant actually use the phone.
Just get the forest blue XZ, and forget the others.
I running stock on mine, unmodified, September security patch and battery life is very excellent, no overheating.
And I have to agree Sony optimisation is exceptional, I run my phone once for 20 straight days without reboot or slow down, the phone was still smooth.
korom42 said:
Alright guys XZ it is thanks for everyone responded to me and shared his opinion/experience
For know please let me know if there are any known/common issues that maybe some units has to avoid especially since I am probably getting a "used XZ" :good:
For example I remember for Z5 many units had blurry left side in picture taken by rear camera, also screen bleeding, dead pixels ect..
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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IF you're not chasing for glamour and high end phones these days..e.g. pixel phones, Lg g6, etc.. then XZ still worth to buy. ...Otherwise if you're looking forward for OnePlus, i suggest go for OP 5 instead of OP 3T. Imho
*OnePlus, Pixel phones=Dev enthusiasts+Custom ROMs friendly
As the title says........
As a long time Sony fan, (owned Z2, Z3, Z5 and now XZP) I have always loved the design and Sony's initial "lead ahead" design, i.e IP68 rating, stereo speakers, epic camera hardware, big battery) etc.
Now having owned pretty much gen after gen Sony, I've always been disappointed in the fact that their Hardware have been full proof and cutting edge, but their software implementations have been woeful to say the least.
It's a known fact that must other Android and IOS brand phones use Sony Camera Modules, yet they have always had better low light and the odd day light camera performance.
Also their Speakers. For a phone with Dual front firing speakers, the software implementations again have been [email protected]*, resorting to "knowledgeable" users having to download and mod their phones to actually utilize the phones full potential.
Anyone else disappointed with some of Sony's software limitations?
sorry for the rant.
I like the phone, only problem is the front cam is chit
amakuramio said:
I like the phone, only problem is the front cam is chit
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snapcamera in LowLightMode (multiframe shooting, up to 32 frames) on the front module gives amazing detail even in the night