Quick charge 3.0 thoughts? - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

The release of quick charge 3.0 is right around the corner and so far I'm a bit excited since I most of my current devices take advantage of quick charge 2.0 but hopefully the s7 supports 3.0 as I will definitely be grabbing a quick charge 3.0 charger asap since they will support quick charge 2.0. I believe that on quick Charge 3.0 compatible devices you can get 27% faster charging speed than Quick Charge 2.0 Charger.
Any thoughts? =)

Febby said:
The release of quick charge 3.0 is right around the corner and so far I'm a bit excited since I most of my current devices take advantage of quick charge 2.0 but hopefully the s7 supports 3.0 as I will definitely be grabbing a quick charge 3.0 charger asap since they will support quick charge 2.0. I believe that on quick Charge 3.0 compatible devices you can get 27% faster charging speed than Quick Charge 2.0 Charger.
Any thoughts? =)
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Best charging stuff ever... 2016 needs more faster charging hardware options as we love our phones and can't like without it
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Quick charge 3.0 will be great on Galaxy S7

Support for quick charge 3.0 would be a big selling point for me

It will be amazing if S7 comes with quick charge 3.0.

I created a list of Quick Charge 3.0 Chargers from the Famous Accessories Brands:http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/accessories/1-29-list-quick-charge-3-0-chargers-t3303560

I turn off quick charging on all my devices. I just don't see it being good for battery life. With a little planning ahead I have always left the house with a full battery.
Edit: my note edge was the only device I owned which was purchased used. It also happens to be the only device I own with a bad battery. I suspect due to the original owner using quick charge. Hell, even the battery in my almost 3 years old s4 last longer.

Note 5 and galaxy s6 edge+ Plus charger are O ready very fast. I don't think we need quick charge 3.0
Will be good if galaxy s7 has USB-C port.

umbrokhan said:
Note 5 and galaxy s6 edge+ Plus charger are O ready very fast. I don't think we need quick charge 3.0
Will be good if galaxy s7 has USB-C port.
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Shame it doesn't have USB C. But then again wireless fast charge will be nice.
As for Quick Charge 3.0, it would be awesome, but I just can't see it.
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jisddwqs said:
It will be amazing if S7 comes with quick charge 3.0.
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Too bad all my chargers only support QC 2.0

prophet42 said:
Shame it doesn't have USB C. But then again wireless fast charge will be nice.
As for Quick Charge 3.0, it would be awesome, but I just can't see it.
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USB C is slow at the moment on the smartphone. maybe Samsung is waiting for USB-C gets more advance or faster.
becuase fast charge 3.0 is faster then USB-C at the monent. look at Nexus 6P or Nexus 5x or oneplus 2 with USB-C. its not fast.

So it looks like the LG G5 got Quick Charge 3.0 but the S7 is still on 2.0? Can anyone confirm?

umbrokhan said:
USB C is slow at the moment on the smartphone. maybe Samsung is waiting for USB-C gets more advance or faster.
becuase fast charge 3.0 is faster then USB-C at the monent. look at Nexus 6P or Nexus 5x or oneplus 2 with USB-C. its not fast.
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Nexus 6p isn't fast, it's true. But that's not down to USB-C.
It's down to the type of fast charging system it favours. Higher amps, whereas quick charge 2 and 3 raise the voltage more.
It's more likely Samsung are delaying using USB C due to it being seen as a minefield of good vs bad cables.
I've used both. Quick Charge works better in my opinion. Faster and cooler with my Samsung S6 vs my Nexus 6p.
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thegreatone3 said:
So it looks like the LG G5 got Quick Charge 3.0 but the S7 is still on 2.0? Can anyone confirm?
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S7 is quick charge 3.0
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If this is accurate, looks like 2.0 for the S7?
http://phandroid.com/2016/02/22/samsung-galaxy-s7-user-manual/

I bought two quick charge 2.0 last week. I love it. Now QC 3.0 ?

On gsmarena it was 3.0...
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On gsmarena it was 3.0...
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It does indeed indicate 3.0 on GSM Arena. Aye. Need some official confirmation before I buy charging accessories.

thegreatone3 said:
It does indeed indicate 3.0 on GSM Arena. Aye. Need some official confirmation before I buy charging accessories.
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I just read the users manual and it indeed does support the fast charge technology

The charge time quotes were something like 30 mins from 0 to 80%. If that's true, then it has to be Quick Charge 3. If...
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Charging with 2.0 A charger ?

Hi, I've bought my nexus a week ago and I'm using brother's s5 charger for 4 days now. thing is it charges soo fast in 45min max. but it sometimes the touch acts all awkward and using while charging makes it hot.
Should I stick with 2.0A or Nexus 5 standard.
Xami said:
Hi, I've bought my nexus a week ago and I'm using brother's s5 charger for 4 days now. thing is it charges soo fast in 45min max. but it sometimes the touch acts all awkward and using while charging makes it hot.
Should I stick with 2.0A or Nexus 5 standard.
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Charge with the most amps you can..the phone draws what it needs and is self-regulating. The screen and touch flakiness when plugged in is a widespread issue related to grounding.
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Charge with the most amps you can..the phone draws what it needs and is self-regulating. The screen and touch flakiness when plugged in is a widespread issue related to grounding.
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but if we agree to "he phone draws what it needs and is self-regulating" then why it charges fast with 2.0A charger ?
Xami said:
but if we agree to "he phone draws what it needs and is self-regulating" then why it charges fast with 2.0A charger ?
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Because it can draw current at a more optimal rate versus a lower output adapter.
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Because it can draw current at a more optimal rate versus a lower output adapter.
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Hmm. bottom line: Nothing to worry about right ?
I was wondering if charging with a higher ampere weres the battery wors of is this not the case?
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Xami said:
Hmm. bottom line: Nothing to worry about right ?
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Nothing
1asbak1 said:
I was wondering if charging with a higher ampere weres the battery wors of is this not the case?
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The battery takes what is safe to take.
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I have wondered this also and got a widget that will show me how many amps the phone is taking. If i plug into a .7 my phone will draw 400-600 milamps. If i plug it into my 2.0 amp power bank itll draw 1.3 ish amps i think id have to check.
While it takes what it can safely take to charge, the charger itself may not be able to handle the heat if its a cheap knock off. So I would watch it the first time or two you try a charger with a higher rate than the included the charger. I had one literally melt onto my surge protector. Yes, it was a cheap chinese knockoff and it was charging via Qi instead of USB, but seriously, watch for the first time or two that it doesn't cause overheating and melting or even a fire. Just IMHO.
stock n5 charger is 2.1 amps
simms22 said:
stock n5 charger is 2.1 amps
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My stock n5 charger is 1.2A could be because it's Swedish LG..
andreasha said:
My stock n5 charger is 1.2A could be because it's Swedish LG..
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maybe? mines 2.1 amps. i dont use it anyways, i bought a 5 amp charger with 2 usb slots, and it charges better
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stock n5 charger is 2.1 amps
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Really? The one they gave me back then was 1.2A. Got it from Play Store as well.
I know the aftermarket one from Play Store paying extra is 2.0A+
zephiK said:
Really? The one they gave me back then was 1.2A. Got it from Play Store as well.
I know the aftermarket one from Play Store paying extra is 2.0A+
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thats odd, from the play store. i bought mine at tmobile though. anyways, the optimal, and recommended, charger for the n5 is 2.1 amps.
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yea, the play store charger comes with 1.2 amps. i just checked out its specs online. no wonder so many people say their n5 charges much faster with higher amps. also, oddly, google released another higher amp/voltage charger for the nexus 5, but this one you have to buy http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...amp-charger-faster-nexus-device-charging.html
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Charging_Accessory?id=nexus_charging_accessory
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thats odd, from the play store. i bought mine at tmobile though. anyways, the optimal, and recommended, charger for the n5 is 2.1 amps.
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yea, the play store charger comes with 1.2 amps. i just checked out its specs online. no wonder so many people say their n5 charges much faster with higher amps. also, oddly, google released another higher amp/voltage charger for the nexus 5, but this one you have to buy http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...amp-charger-faster-nexus-device-charging.html
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Charging_Accessory?id=nexus_charging_accessory
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Wow I wonder if all of the N5 at T Mobile store gives the higher amp... and yeah that is silly and they ship a cheap and low amp charger to make people buy one. The blackberry folding charger thread on the accessories forum works great though, $5 for 2.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/at...le-nexus-5-uploadfromtaptalk1387630490145.jpg thats the charger that came with my play store one when I bought it last year.
cdog1213 said:
I have wondered this also and got a widget that will show me how many amps the phone is taking. If i plug into a .7 my phone will draw 400-600 milamps. If i plug it into my 2.0 amp power bank itll draw 1.3 ish amps i think id have to check.
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what widget is that?
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stock n5 charger is 2.1 amps
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It's actually 1.8 amps and the wireless charger has a 1.2 amp plug. Maybe vice versa.
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ast00 said:
It's actually 1.8 amps and the wireless charger has a 1.2 amp plug. Maybe vice versa.
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Stock charger 1.2 here.
Wireless gives 0.7-0.8. Plug not really relevant
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rootSU said:
Stock charger 1.2 here.
Wireless gives 0.7-0.8. Plug not really relevant
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It might as well be different for some countries.
To be honest, I mixed my plugs, so I only know that one is 1.8, the other is 1.2. I don't know which one is for the phone and which one is for the wireless charging.
But the wireless charging is painfully slow with USB. The problem is that I have many things around, so I need a hub. That's 2 meters of cable. Then I plug it into the hub and put the wireless charger to the other side of the table, that's another 1.5 meters. And it's a hub, so it has to give power to other things as well.
According to Android L, from 25%, it takes 7 hours to charge. I might as well use the normal charger...
Stock charger is definitely 1.2.
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Tronsmart quick charger 2.0

What do you think about this car/wall quick charger 2.0. Is this good quality brand?
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231591070533&alt=web
Yeap, got the same one from amazon, works flawless.
I am not sure which one is better tronsmart or HTC TC-P1000? I always prefer genuine products but in this case am not sure. Here is link of tcp1000:
http://m.ebay.de/itm?itemId=331514042214
For me, i prefer the tronsmart ones, because the price is lower, and the most important, i can find they are qualcomm certified on qualcomm webiste, which make me feel confidence
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All QC 2.0 are good except samsung. This one simply doesn't work well with m9.
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Got this charger yesterday and my M9 was full 40min from 34% to 100%, it is very good time now I just have to wait for Xiaomi power bank, and maybe I also buy this brand charger for my car
I bough the wall charger last week, but like a fool put my parents address on it so won't be able to pick it up until next weekend
i bough this charger yesterday, I wait at home but it will take a bit of time, it must come from Japan and are in Italy! when it arrives I will tell you my impressions!
I won an ebay auction and paid $15usd including shipping. Love it. Comes with a nice thick 6 foot charge cable and some green valcro cable tie as a bonus...
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$6.99 Tronsmart 2.0 Quick Chargers, if anyone needs one.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/11/03/deal-alert-tronsmart-quick-charge-2-0-wall-charger-6-99-after-8-off-coupon/
I have tronsmort 2.0 QC ...
It charges fast till 90% ...
After that the charging speed gets significantly low ...
Don't know it's Charger's issue or something wrong with my fone ...
I have that issue with the stock charger. Tronsmart 2.0 QC is the only way I can get to 100%. Very weird.
drmoeed said:
I have tronsmort 2.0 QC ...
It charges fast till 90% ...
After that the charging speed gets significantly low ...
Don't know it's Charger's issue or something wrong with my fone ...
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Thats how a QC charger works. There's nothing wrong with your devices.
xunus said:
Thats how a QC charger works. There's nothing wrong with your devices.
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I had Note 5 before ...
It got charged hell faster with the adaptive fast charger with it ...
Through 1-100% ...
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Thats how a QC charger works. There's nothing wrong with your devices.
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Nah, I'm pretty sure the stock charger is supposed to get you up to 100%. I can leave it on the charger over night and wake up to 97-99%. Quick charger, though, goes up to 100% quickfast, and stays at 100% until I unplug it.
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Nah, I'm pretty sure the stock charger is supposed to get you up to 100%. I can leave it on the charger over night and wake up to 97-99%. Quick charger, though, goes up to 100% quickfast, and stays at 100% until I unplug it.
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And it did on my M9. Both stock and QC charger.
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drmoeed said:
I had Note 5 before ...
It got charged hell faster with the adaptive fast charger with it ...
Through 1-100% ...
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Note 5 is not using QC by Qualcomm tho. I would call it similar but different.
mcampos7 said:
$6.99 Tronsmart 2.0 Quick Chargers, if anyone needs one.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/11/03/deal-alert-tronsmart-quick-charge-2-0-wall-charger-6-99-after-8-off-coupon/
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Thanks for the heads up. Just ordered one, $13.09 with shipping, excellent price.
krogoth said:
All QC 2.0 are good except samsung. This one simply doesn't work well with m9.
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Samsung isn't "Quick Charge". It's their own knockoff/brand/flavor of the same concept.
So Samsung chargers won't work with any other brand phones, and you can't get a Quick Charge with a Samsung phone. Kind of annoying of them, but I guess they're free to do what they want.
$10 Tronsmart Quick Charge 2.0 4-Port Car Charger http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZF7XLJU?tag=androidpolice-20
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$10 Tronsmart Quick Charge 2.0 4-Port Car Charger http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZF7XLJU?tag=androidpolice-20
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$20 now. I'd buy it for $10. Even $12.
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Choetech QC 3.0 18W Wall Charger

Update 19/04/2016: This charger vastly outperforms the LG when screen on. See bottom of this post for details.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B019Q67STY/
Quick review of this charger. I received it free of charge in exchange for honest feedback.
It has a USB-A connection & no cable is included but the LG one you get with the G5 works fine.
It seems well built, a little shorter than the original but lacks the retractable earth pin so a bit of give & take on portability.
One standout physical difference to any other charger I've had is simply genius, a reversible USB-A connection. Can't believe it isn't more common but great to have a key advantage of USB-C ported to USB-A.
Performance in comparison to the original is nigh on identical. Both charge at 3A until about 60% then start ramping down.
Here's the times Choetech / LG
10%-60% 25:04 / 24:31
60%-80% 13:45 / 14:00
80%-100% 31:07 / 31:19
100% to current dropped to 0mA 49:19/ 49:56
Yep, with both chargers there seems to be a long time from reporting 100% & trickle charge actually reaching 0mA.
I used 3C Toolbox for measurements.
A few pics. LG charger is white.
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Definitely better charging rate with QC3 when screen on. 1st 2 images are LG non QC 3.0, 3rd & 4th are the Choetech QC 3.0 charger
The former seems to pick up a little when temp goes below 35c but still not a patch on the latter.
(yellow marker indicates when screen on)
Thanks for the review.
Here's the times Choetech / LG
10%-60% 25:04 / 24:31
60%-80% 13:45 / 14:00
80%-100% 31:07 / 31:19
100% to current dropped to 0mA 49:19/ 49:56
Very good test! Thank you for the awesome review and test.
Does anyone have comparison times for quick charge 2.0 vs. quick charge 3.0 ??
So these numbers basically say they charged at almost the same rate?!
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techdog88 said:
Here's the times Choetech / LG
10%-60% 25:04 / 24:31
60%-80% 13:45 / 14:00
80%-100% 31:07 / 31:19
100% to current dropped to 0mA 49:19/ 49:56
Very good test! Thank you for the awesome review and test.
Does anyone have comparison times for quick charge 2.0 vs. quick charge 3.0 ??
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See my thread here for qc2.0 numbers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/g5-charging-data-using-qc2-0-t3358220
waylo said:
So these numbers basically say they charged at almost the same rate?!
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See my thread here for qc2.0 numbers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/g5-charging-data-using-qc2-0-t3358220
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Yep. The only potential difference might be lower temperature with the QC3 due to more voltages to choose from but effective charge rate was nigh on identical.
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Yep. The only potential difference might be lower temperature with the QC3 due to more voltages to choose from but effective charge rate was nigh on identical.
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Hmm, it's interesting the voltage/amperage ratings on your charger are exactly those printed on a QC2.0 charger... looking through Amazon, those are the same stats printed on other QC3 chargers too. If confirmed, this makes QC3 chargers not nearly as useful as advertised
The Anker QC3 I looked at on Amazon is touting 80% in 38 minutes, which would line up at ~70% with my QC2 charts. Meh.
@waylo Which kind of app did you use to test?
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@waylo Which kind of app did you use to test?
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Battery monitor widget Pro. Which is just the battery monitor portion of the 3c toolbox.
1st post update with new observations
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Amazing! The charging speed of QC 3.0 is really faster! Choetech seems work better and more stable than the g5 original brick. Thanks for sharing. @stuart0001
I just received the US version of this charger and will be putting my comparison/analysis on my thread as soon as I get some data collection.
I've been very pleased with mine since I got it. I haven't done any deep research like stuart but as a secondary charger in my living room it definitely seems to be at least as quick as the stock charger. I'm using a 6 foot cable so the fact that it still charges as quickly as the stock charger impresses me.
Overall I've been impressed but I think Choetech has done a good job at being some of the first 3rd party options you can trust recently. My outlet is in an awkward spot so I don't know if the brick heats up at all while it's charging or anything but it does the job.
I didn't get the charger for free but I think it's worth the money. I planned to take one of my 3.0 chargers to the office and use a 2.0 at my nightstand but I may end up just grabbing another one of these for the price.
Thanks for the review @stuart0001 it's nice to see the real data on this to know it's not just all in my head.

quick charge 3?

hey guys, I know huawei has its own proprietary fast charge solution, but does it also work with quick charge 3 chargers? Like is it slower because the battery is big or is it slower because it detects it as a normal charger
I read, or watched in a video, that if you are using most quick chargers it will charge faster than normal but just not at the speeds of their proprietary quick charge.
Of course with quick chargers there is always the caveat of the crap knockoff ones verse good ones so milage may vary.
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SWBgHz said:
I read, or watched in a video, that if you are using most quick chargers it will charge faster than normal but just not at the speeds of their proprietary quick charge.
Of course with quick chargers there is always the caveat of the crap knockoff ones verse good ones so milage may vary.
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I just don't want to get rid of my quick charge 2 chargers I gathered at home and my aukey car charger qc3
anyone know where I can get another huawei stock charger for the mate 9?
NiggZ said:
anyone know where I can get another huawei stock charger for the mate 9?
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So new they don't seem to be around, Huawei site will probably be best bet at first.
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NiggZ said:
anyone know where I can get another huawei stock charger for the mate 9?
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Been searching everywhere for one myself, no luck thus far. Please report if you find one anywhere.
You need both charger and cable to be compatible for Huawei's super charge. I tried using 3rd party cable with stock charger and it is just normal charging
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xacidx said:
You need both charger and cable to be compatible for Huawei's super charge. I tried using 3rd party cable with stock charger and it is just normal charging
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Really? That's awful, can you check the difference with the charges by using the ampere app?
Ashk91 said:
Really? That's awful, can you check the difference with the charges by using the ampere app?
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No I don't have the ability to do that.
But based on the numbers on the charger, I think you need at least 4.5A for super charge to work
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Really? That's awful, can you check the difference with the charges by using the ampere app?
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Keep in mind the issues of USB C non standard cables being rampant. Lots of USB C stuff is crap and not up to snuff.
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One of the reviews mentioned the need for the Huawei cable. They said it has additional pins that aren't in a standard USB-C cable. They indicated that the reason they can charge faster is because there are two batteries that are being charged in parallel, though that may have been speculation. If true, that would explain the need for a special charger: it would need dual outputs.
dscline said:
One of the reviews mentioned the need for the Huawei cable. They said it has additional pins that aren't in a standard USB-C cable. They indicated that the reason they can charge faster is because there are two batteries that are being charged in parallel, though that may have been speculation. If true, that would explain the need for a special charger: it would need dual outputs.
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It is false, there is just one battery and the cable has nothing to do with the number of batteries.
Lodix said:
It is false, there is just one battery and the cable has nothing to do with the number of batteries.
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I can't say it's true or false, but how do you know it's false? "Two" batteries doesn't necessarily mean the cells are physically arranged in separate casings. And if there were two separate batteries, you would need more connections to be able to control the voltage/amperage to the needs of each one. Sending a single power connection to the phone then modulating that within the phone would likely put too much bulk and heat into the phone, better to keep it in the charger.
I just bought the phone, I'll test it using ampere (mah) using the original charger and then using quick charge 2 plus USB C adapter
Oh my God, blew my mind away, this is with the original charger, unbelievable, comparing to my S6 qc2, max was 1020 mA
Ok so I did three tests, one with huawei original charger+cable, the results was in my previous post, and now with a qc2 charger using huawei cable..
We find that it's much slower.. But the big surprise is that using Samsung cable with the qc2 and micro USB to USB C adapter, we get this.
1. Huawei original (3650mA)
2. QC 2 WITH HUAWEI CABLE (2100mA)
3.QC 2 micro USB to USB C adapter cable (1200ma)
So that means QC 2 or 3 are good relatively but only if you use huaweis cable.. So there you go.
Ashk91 said:
I just bought the phone, I'll test it using ampere (mah) using the original charger and then using quick charge 2 plus USB C adapter
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I thought you meant using a physical multimeter to test for the current at first lol. I didn't know there is an app for this. Stupid me.
Here is my findings:
3rd party cable with 3rd party charger output 2A:
3rd party cable with stock charger
Stock cable with stock charger:
As we can see it matches the output current stated on the charger drawing between 4.5A to 5A and you need the stock cable to enable it.
xacidx said:
I thought you meant using a physical multimeter to test for the current at first lol. I didn't know there is an app for this. Stupid me.
Here is my findings:
3rd party cable with 3rd party charger output 2A:

3rd party cable with stock charger

Stock cable with stock charger:
3rd party cable with stock charger

Stock cable with stock charger:

As we can see it matches the output current stated on the charger drawing between 4.5A to 5A and you need the stock cable to enable it.
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You get much better numbers than me, this is great
Ashk91 said:
You get much better numbers than me, this is great
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I think your device can also achieve the same result.
Huawei's SuperCharge is the fastest of any fast charging protocols we've tested at XDA. We're working on publishing an article soon about our comparisons and findings once we've finished our graphs.

Wireless Charging > 11W? (Seeing 13.2W)

I just got a wireless charger, this kind of weird off-brand:
New poster so can't link. Search Amazon for "Yootech 7.5W/10W/15W Fast Wireless Charger with Cooling Fan,7.5W Wireless Charging Stand with QC3.0 Adapter Compatible iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max,15W LG V30/V35/G8,10W Galaxy Note10/S10,Pixel 3/4XL" It's about $22.
I bought it because it supports up to 15W and comes with a charger. Anyway, I put the device on the charger and I'm seeing 13.2W consistently:
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This is both cool and kind of unsettling to me. Is the charger violating specs and sending more power than the Pixel 4 XL can take or can the phone take more power than the 11W advertised?
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I just got a wireless charger, this kind of weird off-brand:
New poster so can't link. Search Amazon for "Yootech 7.5W/10W/15W Fast Wireless Charger with Cooling Fan,7.5W Wireless Charging Stand with QC3.0 Adapter Compatible iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max,15W LG V30/V35/G8,10W Galaxy Note10/S10,Pixel 3/4XL" It's about $22.
I bought it because it supports up to 15W and comes with a charger. Anyway, I put the device on the charger and I'm seeing 13.2W consistently:
This is both cool and kind of unsettling to me. Is the charger violating specs and sending more power than the Pixel 4 XL can take or can the phone take more power than the 11W advertised?
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Phone can take more than advertised.
Pixel Stand charges mine at that rate.
I might have seen 15w once too.
Maybe it's 13.2 watts from the charger, but the pixel only gets 11 watts. Not sure what the loss is but it's not 1 to 1.
The wireless charger for the car I got gets to that level but it seems to cause the phone to run hot. once it reaches 104 F it stops charging. I have had to reposition the charger to the AC vent to circulate air and sometimes for the AC to cool it so it'll keep charging. Is it better to get a wireless charger that doesn't output that much power?
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I just got a wireless charger, this kind of weird off-brand:
New poster so can't link. Search Amazon for "Yootech 7.5W/10W/15W Fast Wireless Charger with Cooling Fan,7.5W Wireless Charging Stand with QC3.0 Adapter Compatible iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max,15W LG V30/V35/G8,10W Galaxy Note10/S10,Pixel 3/4XL" It's about $22.
I bought it because it supports up to 15W and comes with a charger. Anyway, I put the device on the charger and I'm seeing 13.2W consistently:
This is both cool and kind of unsettling to me. Is the charger violating specs and sending more power than the Pixel 4 XL can take or can the phone take more power than the 11W advertised?
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Just bought that one for my daughter, so that's good to know it charges that fast.
To be honest, I don't trust Inware's reported power draw anymore. I dropped my phone onto an old Tylt 5W pad and the app reported 8.4W, up to about 10W at one point. I seriously doubt that the pad is able to do that and suspect that it's misreporting. What other apps do people use to measure charge rates?
I bought the latest version of this charger. Amazon has 5 SKUs for this. 2 older models, one with charger, one without. 2 newer models. one with charger, one without. Finally a black version which I can't tell if it's new or not.
The updated version I bought for my Pixel 4XL shows charging at 10W using Inware. That's fast enough for me.
I am guessing that for the Pixel to say fast charging it has to reach 18W? The only time I have seen it say fast is plugged in with fast compatible chargers.
I have to say this version feels premium and fancy. Very nice.
One last thing, gave up having my mini wallet attached to the back of the phone. Not even the Google Wireless stand can maintain good contact for it to charge. On my previous Samsung i had no problems charging with the wallet attached with 3 cards in it. No luck with the Pixel.
https://www.amazon.com/Yootech-Prem...-Compatible/dp/B07WZRZVLV/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
csrussell said:
I just got a wireless charger, this kind of weird off-brand:
New poster so can't link. Search Amazon for "Yootech 7.5W/10W/15W Fast Wireless Charger with Cooling Fan,7.5W Wireless Charging Stand with QC3.0 Adapter Compatible iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max,15W LG V30/V35/G8,10W Galaxy Note10/S10,Pixel 3/4XL" It's about $22.
I bought it because it supports up to 15W and comes with a charger. Anyway, I put the device on the charger and I'm seeing 13.2W consistently:
This is both cool and kind of unsettling to me. Is the charger violating specs and sending more power than the Pixel 4 XL can take or can the phone take more power than the 11W advertised?
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csrussell said:
To be honest, I don't trust Inware's reported power draw anymore. I dropped my phone onto an old Tylt 5W pad and the app reported 8.4W, up to about 10W at one point. I seriously doubt that the pad is able to do that and suspect that it's misreporting. What other apps do people use to measure charge rates?
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Try this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
slocko said:
I bought the latest version of this charger. Amazon has 5 SKUs for this. 2 older models, one with charger, one without. 2 newer models. one with charger, one without. Finally a black version which I can't tell if it's new or not.
The updated version I bought for my Pixel 4XL shows charging at 10W using Inware. That's fast enough for me.
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Nevermind. For some reason I thought this was about a car charger

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