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Not sure if this belongs in general or not, but just wanted to give everyone a heads up.
Last night I torn my phone apart to try and be the first one to do the palm inductive charger hack on a sensation, but once I got to the lower circuit board I noticed that the usb pins are way too close to the chip set and are permanently shielded with a metal shroud. I also noticed that there are no + or - terminals like on the EVO so it looks like a no-go for us so far.
Just a warning so you don't waste money on buying the palm stuff and tearing your phone apart.
Hmm, I just did a mod on my Galaxy Nexus (easy due to the pogo pins) and am pretty determined to do it on the wifes Sensation. I work with micro-miniature solder technicians so I'm not worried about that, guess I'll have to cut the shroud away to expose the USB connector though. That might get a little messy. I'll post pics if I can get it to work! Honestly, with the popularity of this phone, I'm surprised nobody has gotten the high WAF mod to work yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283200
This guy made it work with a Sensation.
Daiskei said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283200
This guy made it work with a Sensation.
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Yep, and I commented in that thread as well lol.
kpjimmy said:
Yep, and I commented in that thread as well lol.
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Oh... Hah... Ooops!
farfromovin said:
Hmm, I just did a mod on my Galaxy Nexus (easy due to the pogo pins) and am pretty determined to do it on the wifes Sensation. I work with micro-miniature solder technicians so I'm not worried about that, guess I'll have to cut the shroud away to expose the USB connector though. That might get a little messy. I'll post pics if I can get it to work! Honestly, with the popularity of this phone, I'm surprised nobody has gotten the high WAF mod to work yet.
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I think the biggest issue is the unibody case. Even if you get the soldering, or conductive glue down the inductive current won't make it through the stock case. I tried. You'll have to sandwich the inductive circuit between the phone and case.
I have since removed the inductive circuit because the tiny (prob around 32 gauge) wire broke and I didn't feel like rebuilding it. Assuming you could get the circuitry down using the positive resistor you might be able to solder a larger coil that may pick up through the case. If you figure it out I would be thrilled to know how you did it.
The only real reason I wanted to do it was because no one had done it on our phones yet. Good luck!
Nice find on that old thread. I've been wanting to do the same with my Sensation. Any idea about the fatty Mugen case? Just picked one up for $20. Seems a lot cheaper. Is the problem with the OEM case metal in the housing? Maybe this Mugen is all plastic.
There's a ton of space between the sim/sdcard and the housing (for the housing to be able to accommodate the double battery) and may be the perfect spot.
My idea is to hide a dozen rechargeable AA's or so inside a leather belt and have a holster (or pocket powermat). Seems like an actual reasonable use for inductive charging. Of course, it's just conceptual at this point. I need to determine if AA's are actually feasible (comfort and style wise) and whatever the inefficiencies are with inductive charging.
Looking to be able to go a week or so without having to recharge the phone/belt (figure I'm running through 1500mah every 10 hours or so, less when sleeping).
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Nice find on that old thread. I've been wanting to do the same with my Sensation. Any idea about the fatty Mugen case? Just picked one up for $20. Seems a lot cheaper. Is the problem with the OEM case metal in the housing? Maybe this Mugen is all plastic.
There's a ton of space between the sim/sdcard and the housing (for the housing to be able to accommodate the double battery) and may be the perfect spot.
My idea is to hide a dozen rechargeable AA's or so inside a leather belt and have a holster (or pocket powermat). Seems like an actual reasonable use for inductive charging. Of course, it's just conceptual at this point. I need to determine if AA's are actually feasible (comfort and style wise) and whatever the inefficiencies are with inductive charging.
Looking to be able to go a week or so without having to recharge the phone/belt (figure I'm running through 1500mah every 10 hours or so, less when sleeping).
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That sounds good, but with the weight of the rechargeables may pose a issue when it comes to portability when you are talking about a dozen of them. Why not just carry along a power bank? I have a 10000mAh one that charges two devices at once and is no bigger than a phone.
I mean I love the idea of inductive charging. I mean the GSIII has the option to do so.
I got one of these recently for my vacation. It takes AA batteries which is easily available or you can use rechargeables.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emergency-U...124278?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a1aac4676
I think I'll try this one out but I do have one question. Is having 1 pin (assuming it is 5v) enough to complete the circuit? Doesn't it need a ground lead somewhere?
The pic is from http://www.qianqin.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/microusb.jpg
I don't understand your picture. Yes, you need a ground to complete the circuit. And without manipulating the data pins, you will be limited to a charge rate of 100mA.
ladys and gentlemen. assuming you are happy with only the 100ma cap then could you not logically just connect the wires to the battery terminals and allow that to charge it. leaving the usb port free?? i have had to do this once or twice in emergency situations when i didnt have the correct charging cable but had a damaged usb + laptop.
Yes, you will need to ground to any metal point to complete the circuit. I just sandwiched the wire between the sim and metal sim holder.
I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
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Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
Did you get it working?
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I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
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Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
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Hi there, I have a htc sensation with a broken usb port and want to use it for inductive charging instead. So im wondering if you managed to ever get it working?
Regards Shaun.
I did!, but not with pogo plugs for an elegant solution. I ended up just running the wires from the inductive charger through a hole drilled into the metal back and than routed to the pad shown in the picture and the sim card metal housing.
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I did!, but not with pogo plugs for an elegant solution. I ended up just running the wires from the inductive charger through a hole drilled into the metal back and than routed to the pad shown in the picture and the sim card metal housing.
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Did you have difficulty with the metal backing interfering with the induction charger?
[size=+1]Simple wireless charging - Ten Minutes & Under Ten Pounds[/size]
Confirmed working on the:
International Note II GT-N7100
International Note II GT-N7105
AT&T Note II (Confirmed working)
Sprint Note II (has no slots for charging pins, but confirmed working when taking the middle housing cover off and finding the wireless charging contacts underneath)
Have a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33833217&postcount=240
Canadian i317M Note II (Bell Canada)
Confirmed not working on the:
US TMobile Note II SGH-T889 (Has the charging pins for wireless charging)
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978276
vinas1 has just released some instructions on how you could get the wireless charging mod to work on the Tmobile Note II version.
Check it out here
[size=+1]Please do this mod at your own risk[/size]
[size=+1]Big Thanks to m055 who has posted a video guide on Youtube check it out from here[/size]
I've decided to go ahead and do the mod for the wireless charging as i've seen a few threads tempting me.
What you need is:
Palm Touchstone £5.24 (Amazon UK)
Palm Pre Touchstone case £3.49 (eBay)
Electrical Tape
Copper foil tape [thanks rj3005]
Solder Iron & Solder
You can also use thin wire to do this mod if you don't have copper tape handy.
This all cost me under £10 excluding the solder iron. You might find it cheaper shopping around.
I first took the induction coil out of the Palm Pre case carefully.
!!! Its very important that you peel the silver sticker off carefully and not cause any sharp bends which could cause cracking. You need this silver sticker to stay intact for the whole operation to work!!!
The top pin is positive and bottom is negative as shown in the picture, this is also the same on the note the top pin being positive and bottom negative.
I placed the coil in the center of the Note battery case I then placed the silver sticker over the coil as it was on the Palm Pre (this is very important that you place the silver sticker back over the coil as without it the induction doesn't seem to work.)
I then checked where the charging pins on the note meets with the case and marked it with a pen to indicate where the wires copper tape would have to be.
Using copper tape, I stuck two tracks going from the charging circuit to the charging pins positions, make sure you leave enough copper track to fold the tape twice over itself to create a spring going against the charging pins.
Solder the track to the charging circuit by tinning the end of the copper track and soldering it to charging circuit contacts, then cut electrical tape to size and place it over the copper track. After place the original insulation cover over the coil with the magnets.
I placed the battery cover over the Palm Touchstone dock and checked the voltage from the copper track with a meter (should be 5.6V any less means you have left the silver foil off or not placed it correctly) to check everything is working and the polarity is correct.
I placed it back on my phone and there you go, I now have wireless charging.
NFC works and magnets do not affect the phone testing the S Pen and Compass seem to operate all good.
List of successful mods completed:
XenonAndroid
nm8 also see this (impressive)
BigladUK
Framedtrash (n7105)
aaronrkelly (how to do the mod with the missing wireless charging pins)
be_vigilant
mgrey
henge
snakeman65
opentoideas (Samsung Flip Cover)
There is probably more successful mods then whats on this list, please post about your success and I will add it to here but also post about if you are having trouble getting this working and I'm sure somebody will be able to advice and help you here!
German tutorial with good pictures of the Pre and Pixi casing(thanks Frank2)
Sorry if its a bit brief, I will try and write it up a bit better.
[size=+1]EDIT: Measurements I've taken
Output Voltage 4.8V (5.6V disconnected)
Output Amps 0.42A[/size]
EDIT: Added pictures of the Galaxy Note on the dock in portrait & landscape
EDIT: I've now swapped my wires over to copper tape
EDIT: nm8 has just posted a solder less alternative [MOD] Note 2 Wireless Charging [Origami style][No Solder]
You can use the Palm Pixi case to do this mod but its very important that you double check the polarity to the charging pins. Do not connect straight to the charging pins until your sure which pins are positive and negative, you could cause damage to your phone Info Regarding the Pixi
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33861324&postcount=77 QI Wireless Charging Mod
Placed this thread in the wrong section, could a MOD please move it.
Very impressive! :good:
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Placed this thread in the wrong section, could a MOD please move it.
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Great MOD
Moved to original development
What gage speaker wire I want to duplicate your process perfectly what type of soder did u use
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Does the back cover fit without problem after this mod?
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You, or, someone should make a video and post it on the OP.
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What gage speaker wire I want to duplicate your process perfectly what type of soder did u use
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When I get home, I will have a look at the speaker cable but i'm not entirely sure, and for the solder I don't think the guage matters as you are only soldering on the charging circuit pins and creating a solder ball on the end of the wires. For the actual wires I recommend stripping the insulation off completly and then replacing it with heat shrink as this creates a thin layer of insulation.
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Yes the back cover fits perfectly, you can not feel the coil or the charging circuit but you can feel a slight bump where the wires go but its not noticeable. Its quite a nice fit and handy as the Palm Pre modules lines up perfectly for polarity, you may even get away with having the circuit with the pins directly lined up to the note charging ports to prevent feeling the wires and just extend the coil itself.
What does it look like actually ON the Touchstone? It it stable?
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Yes the back cover fits perfectly, you can not feel the coil or the charging circuit but you can feel a slight bump where the wires go but its not noticeable. Its quite a nice fit and handy as the Palm Pre modules lines up perfectly for polarity, you may even get away with having the circuit with the pins directly lined up to the note charging ports to prevent feeling the wires and just extend the coil itself.
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Your speaker wires are really thick I would use 0.7mm lacquered copper wire
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What does it look like actually ON the Touchstone? It it stable?
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I will post a picture of it when I get home, but it is quite stable on the touchstone it holds it up. It will come off the magnetic field if you physically knock it off but it wouldn't come off if you knocked the table or anything its on.
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Your speaker wires are really thick I would use 0.7mm lacquered copper wire
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I think the speaker cable I used was about 1mm thick i will double check but 0.7mm would be best, but with a 1mm you hardly notice it on the case anyways.
Great mod, it's pretty cool how android has picked up the wireless charge, I didn't even know it was natively supported. What is the charging time like compared to a normal tethered charge?
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wow nice and cheap... what's the voltage coming out from the coil ?
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Great mod, it's pretty cool how android has picked up the wireless charge, I didn't even know it was natively supported. What is the charging time like compared to a normal tethered charge?
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It will take around 6-7hrs to full charge. Not great ...
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wow nice and cheap... what's the voltage coming out from the coil ?
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I measured 5.6V from the output, but I didn't measure the actual coil itself.
RavenY2K3 said:
Great mod, it's pretty cool how android has picked up the wireless charge, I didn't even know it was natively supported. What is the charging time like compared to a normal tethered charge?
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I'm not so sure, it was something I quickly did before I went to work not had a play with it yet. I'm home now so I've docked it on the charger at 50% so I will report back in hour with what percentage it is at.
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I measured 5.6V from the output, but I didn't measure the actual coil itself.
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Thanks for hte quick reply.
I have 2 concerns:
1. will 5.6v fry the battery sooner ? (forgot to ask the ouput amperage)
2. if the back cover bulges, it might crack the cover sooner or later..
what do you think ?
thanks
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Thanks for hte quick reply.
I have 2 concerns:
1. will 5.6v fry the battery sooner ? (forgot to ask the ouput amperage)
2. if the back cover bulges, it might crack the cover sooner or later..
what do you think ?
thanks
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When I measured the output i didn't have a load on it, so I would expect a slight drop in the output voltage. I will measure the amps tomorrow, to see what its drawing I will plug it in to the Samsung 2A charger but i got a feeling its limited to what it can draw. I couldn't comment on whether it will fry the battery sooner but I will also measure the voltage to see if there is a drop.
The back cover has minimum bulge, hardly noticeable. You can always use thinner wire if your worried about the bulge like 'rj3005' mentioned about using 0.7mm. I highly doubt the cover would crack as its quite flexible in itself.
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When I measured the output i didn't have a load on it, so I would expect a slight drop in the output voltage. I will measure the amps tomorrow, to see what its drawing I will plug it in to the Samsung 2A charger but i got a feeling its limited to what it can draw. I couldn't comment on whether it will fry the battery sooner but I will also measure the voltage to see if there is a drop.
The back cover has minimum bulge, hardly noticeable. You can always use thinner wire if your worried about the bulge like 'rj3005' mentioned about using 0.7mm. I highly doubt the cover would crack as its quite flexible in itself.
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Can I just clarify one thing, do you mean the buldge is caused by the x2 cables that you soldered to the terminals and not the actual big circular coil (sorry don't know what its called). cheers
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Can I just clarify one thing, do you mean the buldge is caused by the x2 cables that you soldered to the terminals and not the actual big circular coil (sorry don't know what its called). cheers
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Yes the actual 'coil and charging circuit' doesn't bulge only the two cables you can slightly feel going from the charging circuit terminals to the galaxy note wireless charging ports.
Like I said the bulge is very minimal, nothing which concerns me but could be overcome my using thinner cable then what I used.
I'm about to build one but I haven't found any experiences of people with a note 4 in regards to battery temps. Are any of you using this set up in your car? I'm a limo driver so it'll be running bluetooth music, navigation, voice, text, and Gsheets 55 hours a week. A spare battery wouldn't be awful but it would cause a hasty case peeling every day.
I plan to simply tape magnets into a plate charger and my case, tape the plate into an iottie, and connect it to a 3amp connection.
If you are having heat problems please mention your feed amperage and if you've seen any battery capacity changes. I'd pay 20$ every six months to replace it but I don't want a steady decline in capacity.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...23677303&sr=8-12&keywords=qi+wireless+charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P48BIFY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Holder...77348&sr=1-1&keywords=iottie+easy+one+touch+2
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O7RA3Q8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Coupon for iottie and mpow got me 5$ off each, magnets and tape from leftover projects. 50$ total, plate fits perfectly like it was a phone and tastefully wrapped gorilla tape should make it non slip, well anchored to the iottie, but still easily removable with a knife. Phone then sticks just outside of the claws against the plate. Just waiting and stressing over heat before the qi adapter to arrives tomorrow
Props to this thread for inspiring this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...to-make-magnetic-qi-car-charger-dock-t2531754
Don't know about magnets... would it throw off gps and mess with the magnetometer? It may act up.
As for wireless charging, its not a problem. It gets warm at times, but when your phone's already charged up and its just trickling, its not. It's hit or miss sometimes. Some days at home, its gets pretty warm, like if you were playing graphic intensive games for a while. But at work where i'm streaming music all day long, its not that hot.
i use an itian wireless charger with a samsung oem qi back and the iblason armorbox case. i mounted the itian vertically on the car dash with scotch outdoor waterproof double sided tape. it works very well. instant charging when i push it into the itian charger and i can pull it out with no problems. note that the phone is too heavy for the air vent mounting (it cracks the air vent) and the suction cup works very badly. magnetic is bad too -- it will throw off your GPS/mess with the signal. just get the itian and armorbox.
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Don't know about magnets... would it throw off gps and mess with the magnetometer? It may act up.
As for wireless charging, its not a problem. It gets warm at times, but when your phone's already charged up and its just trickling, its not. It's hit or miss sometimes. Some days at home, its gets pretty warm, like if you were playing graphic intensive games for a while. But at work where i'm streaming music all day long, its not that hot.
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Which charger do you use? When I connected this plate to a 1amp charger it would make my note3 battery temp hit the high 40s, with a 2.5 min it would barely change the temp but that was overnight and not running a half dozen tools with the screen on. When you play games that's the processor heating up, and it's made to handle much higher temps than the battery. Have you perchance checked the battery temps when it feels warm?
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i use an itian wireless charger with a samsung oem qi back and the iblason armorbox case. i mounted the itian vertically on the car dash with scotch outdoor waterproof double sided tape. it works very well. instant charging when i push it into the itian charger and i can pull it out with no problems. note that the phone is too heavy for the air vent mounting (it cracks the air vent) and the suction cup works very badly. magnetic is bad too -- it will throw off your GPS/mess with the signal. just get the itian and armorbox.
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Have you guys experienced the magnet/gps problem or is it just the assumption that a magnetic field will effect radio waves? I used a magnetic dock with my note 3 without any issues and there are very few reports of that in other diy mag/qi threads claim there was any change... I might change the case magnets to thin steel plates so they double as shielding if there's an issue though.
I use 2 amp chargers on all of them. Have a lot. I have mixed ones. Got a samsung one and a bunch of those cheapies you find on ebay and amazon. The cheapies work much better than the samsung one. The Samsung is very finicky with the placement in order to charge. Battery temps? I dont check since it's not beyond the realm of "warm".
dont use magnets. it will throw off your inertial guidance in tunnels and areas of bad GPS reception. your phone has a very sensitive MEMS magnetometer. you will likely damage that as well. there is zero need to use magnets.
a 3 coil charger will keep the phone at ambient temps. A 1 coil charger will heat up the phone if not properly aligned. The itian one from ebay is cheap and good - use that. It holds the phone very securely and expands all 3 holders - bottom left and right sides - to clamp the phone very securely. battery temp should be in the 35 or below range if you have a 3 coil charger.
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dont use magnets. it will throw off your inertial guidance in tunnels and areas of bad GPS reception. your phone has a very sensitive MEMS magnetometer. you will likely damage that as well. there is zero need to use magnets.
a 3 coil charger will keep the phone at ambient temps. A 1 coil charger will heat up the phone if not properly aligned. The itian one from ebay is cheap and good - use that. It holds the phone very securely and expands all 3 holders - bottom left and right sides - to clamp the phone very securely. battery temp should be in the 35 or below range if you have a 3 coil charger.
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Do you rep for itian? All the posts I've seen from you mention them... I need something I can use in a different vehicle every day, so tape isn't my bag. Modern phones are made without ferrous metals since otherwise being near decent magnets(giant speakers at a concert, keychain magnets, etc) would permanently ruin your magnetometer, the magnetometer won't work when the phone's docked but it'll be fine once it's taken off. Thanks for getting me to do the research, I learned a lot
The magnets let you get perfect alignment so you can use a much smaller 1 coil unit, then it's low amperage that creates the heat. They'd also let me easily grab my phone on and off without worrying about wearing out mechanical stuff or reattaching problems. Limo driving means I grab my phone at least ten times an hour to enter data or let customers pick music, that's 550 times a week minimum, and at that rate I wear through an iottie 1 touch 2(that takes two hands to reattach) in four months.
Still looking for someone with personal experience of heavy load qi charging on a note 4, what worries me is that there doesn't seem to be many when it's such a great option...
no i dont rep for em. i have an itian and 4 others. the itian works the best so i mention it. the armorbox also works great for me and im not an iblason rep either. i promote stuff which i like and works for me personally.
the magnetometer is for finding headings and for your inertial guidance but if those are not important to you, whatever. good luck with your magnetic mount. im sure the next set of posts are going to be - why doesnt my GPS work properly anymore.
This wireless charger is one of today's deals on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-PowerPort-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00Y839YMU/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
I've heard a pretty substantial amount of good reviews for this charger, so I'm thinking of picking it up since it's only $15. I was also looking into getting an OEM LG wireless charging back, but I'm not willing to pay $50+ for it. Ran across the NeWisdom Qi sticker and it seems to have mixed reviews: http://www.amazon.com/NeWisdom-Wire...sr=8-1&keywords=lg+v10+wireless+charging+chip
Was wondering if anybody has had experience with the NeWisdom Qi sticker. Any overheating? Went bad after a while? Ect.
THE TEAM!!!
ThisIsCheez said:
This wireless charger is one of today's deals on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-PowerPort-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00Y839YMU/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
I've heard a pretty substantial amount of good reviews for this charger, so I'm thinking of picking it up since it's only $15. I was also looking into getting an OEM LG wireless charging back, but I'm not willing to pay $50+ for it. Ran across the NeWisdom Qi sticker and it seems to have mixed reviews: http://www.amazon.com/NeWisdom-Wire...sr=8-1&keywords=lg+v10+wireless+charging+chip
Was wondering if anybody has had experience with the NeWisdom Qi sticker. Any overheating? Went bad after a while? Ect.
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I nominate you to take one for the team. Let us know!
Dont bother...I've tried several wireless charging sticker/Qi combos and it just drains the battery.
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Dont bother...I've tried several wireless charging sticker/Qi combos and it just drains the battery.
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So i bought the new Wisdom sticker off Amazon. I'll say this--i used a hair dryer as the instruction indicates--and peeled the original NFC only sticker off (or so i thought) and applied the new wisdom. It would register like it was charging but not actually charge as dr_w indicates above.
HOWEVER...frustrated i looked at a couple videos and noticed that the battery doors with the sticker fully removed didn't look like mine. With an exacto knife i picked at the remaining black area only to find there was still copper wire underneath. In effect the original NFC sticker had multiple layers and i'd only peeled off the top. Getting ALL of it up was a challenge...like a real challenge...it did not peel off i had to scrape with a knife for an extended period of time.
At the end of the day though once i had the original sticker all the way off i reapplied the New Wisdom Sticker (which surprisingly survived multiple attempts at reapplying without ill effect). Then setting it on my Spigen charger stand and running the Ampere app i was amazed at how well it was charging. It actually was over 1000ma at one point and after finding it's range (it starts low and builds) it averaged at about 800ma. That was decent enough to charge my phone pretty quick. For reference fast charging is like 1350--1500ma or so. In comparison the Monroy wireless back i bought from Amazon that already had a sticker applied (presumably NOT New Wisdom) typically does maybe 350-500ma.
So the bottom line is it was WAY more of a pain than i anticipated but now i'm stoked and actually rather impressed with the performance.
LEt us know if its consistent. I've had a very similar experience before it began discharging at a rapid rate. Thanks for the post, I'll keep checking back.
Originally had a cheap sticker off eBay that lasted several months, about 3,then the chip in the phone caved out. Got the newisdom the other day and got a Tylt charger to go with 2 Samsung fast chargers and no issues so far. The constant lighting up the phone when it's charged is annoying and the g4 tweaksbox doesn't seem to fix it.
I'm using the OEM LG wireless back and it's quite nice. Feels exactly like the original and fits very flush, no problems with wireless detection on my TYLT charger. I'm actually surprised at how little the back weighs as my understanding is the copper coils should add some noticeable weight but in this case it doesn't. Maybe not that much copper in these OEM backs?
Just ordered an OEM wireless charging back for my V10 (a seller on Amazon has it for $29.99 atm though no prime shipping with the fastest option being expedited shipping) and due to the price, I'd imagine it already being sold out by the time this post is read. I didn't want to get the third party stickers as I want to keep my current back and the third party plastic backs are pretty horrible in terms of feel and fit.
Anyways, what do you guys recommend for a good wireless charging pad? The official Samsung pads look interesting enough as is and I've seen it work with every device with Qi built in or using one of those plug-in Qi pads you place inside a case before the phone though I'm gonna have to wait til my next paycheck to get a pad: already spend a good chunk of cash on an MSI RX 480 and only bought this back due to the steal of a price at $29.99, $36 with expedited shipping. It was that or go with prime and spend $60 on a back
Finally received my OEM wireless back. As expected, the battery door feels exactly like the original back albeit curves near the button cutout due to the extra elevation it adds. Also makes cases a tighter fit if you're concerned about compatibility. Works on my Yootech wireless charger as well as a friend's Samsung wireless charger and Tylt Vu 3, the last two having the best range in terms of surface since the Yootech seems to only have one coil. As for charging, going from 0-100% took about 2-3 hours and the phone got pretty warm too though just a smidgen cooler than it gets when quick charging via cable. The packaging DOES have the description for what would've been a wireless charging variant of the Quickview cover which would attach as a battery door too but I guess that didn't work after all the hullabaloo about the faulty Qi chip. Sucks that the LG logo simply takes place of the rather sexy V10 logo
Either way, I'd recommend getting an OEM back when you can though might wanna wait. Some listing still sell it for $60 a pop and even $100
There don't seem to be any OEM Qi backs left., which is what I wanted. I got an aftermarket one, which is as thin as the stock non-wireless back, but that 1) doesn't fit all that well; there's always a gap at one corner or other, depending on which end I start with when putting it on, and 2) is at least moderately durable.
The one I have is starting to split, 3 months in. It charges fine (800mA at 5VDC, which is better than my Note 3 with OEM charging back)
So... if you are using a wireless charging back, which one are you using, and how do you like it?
BTW, I've been using a number of these wireless charging docks ($10 on amazon) and they're great if you want a spot you can just plonk your phone down and have it charging.
Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here is the back I purchased.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB89ACG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use it with this charger. I read a lot of reviews that the wireless charging is very slow and someone even said it was more like a toy... For me, the wireless charger easily charges my phone as fast as a 1 amp charger. You do have to have a minimum of a 1 amp wall adapter.
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Cha...90870&sr=1-11&keywords=wireless++fast+charger
EDIT: I forgot to mention, I use a rubberized case with my phone, so it is rather thick and have no issues using the charger with it.
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
I bought two different Qi receivers (and used the original back), and I regret it. The first one died after a month or two, and the second one heated up the phone while charging and ruined the battery.
So I broke down and bought Samsung's wireless charging back, and it has been working perfectly.
where i can find original oem samsung back QI ?
dhplap said:
Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I also use this back, (sold under the h-ber brand name on amazon) and it works fine. Of course the back does fit a little tight, and sometimes, you have to put it on the bottom (near USB port) first, or the clips don't clip.
I have phone in a incipio case which is two layer TPU and polycarbonate and pretty thick, but it charges fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inci...rd_wg=FFUej&psc=1&refRID=S732EGM8V4C7ZNFQBR6C
I have used a samsung fast charging qi dock, and a pleson fast charging dock, which both work fine, but will only charge at normal qi speeds due to lack of qi fast charge support on the note 4.
I get the original one for $60 in my country
d4rkkn16ht said:
I get the original one for $60 in my country
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BO in my country ...
i'm not able to find it on internet to. It's just fake or aftermarket
dave457 said:
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
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What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
bagery77 said:
What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
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I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
dave457 said:
I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
bagery77 said:
Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I just used all purpose glue.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bostik-Al...hash=item257277c46d:m:mFfuep7JS04lusjdXPKR7fA
Samsung wireless charging cover on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wireless-Charging-Cover-Galaxy/dp/B00OP5SAAI
bagery77 said:
Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I used double sided tape when I did mine - not quite as permanent as glue, just in case it moved before the glue set.