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Hola....
I have the TP now 4 like 3 weeks....
In the beginning I installed a lot of programs on my STORAGE CARD!
After the installation I had a lot of problems with my device...like the broken screen issue...and the grey stripes....phone flippin...crashing....thinghs like that.
BUT then I did a hardware reset....took the easy way...
setting->system-> erase content..
After my reset I installed all the programs I installed before...
programs like advanced config, diamond tweak,, coreplayer,klaxon, tomtom etc...
BUT the difference was that I installed everything on my phone....
It worked great 4 me!
I never have issues with my phone anymore....
Everything runs smooth!
so DON'T install programs on your card...
It helped me....maybe it is gonna help you!
you might be on to something here!
thanx for sharing.
With the HUGE amount of storage on-board there's really no need to install programs to the storage card anyway. Plus stuff runs faster from internal storage and is still available if the card is ever removed, or if you connect to a PC in DISK DRIVE mode (which makes the storage card unavailable to the phone's OS).
Basically, always use internal storage until you start getting low, then use the storage card, but only for programs you use rarely.
Incidentally I think Tomtom always installs to the storage card, I don't recall ever having a choice to put it into internal storage.
Now that you mention after my "grey screen" issue i've never installed anything on my storage card and my TP is running fine ever since.
I never thought i could be something so simple and like Jim Coleman mentioned with that much memory on the device who needs the storage card for installations anymore
Great finding pensador
P.S. I will publish this on the wiki at the know issue's section
I have everything installed on my phone, and not the card (except TomTom) and I had the broken gray screen thing once about 4 days into owning the TP and never since. Ive had it weeks now.
Jiggs1337 said:
I have everything installed on my phone, and not the card (except TomTom) and I had the broken gray screen thing once about 4 days into owning the TP and never since. Ive had it weeks now.
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Have you used any Tweak programs??
I have found that if you use any 'Generic' Tweak programs the unit starts to go squiffy..seems a few non-device specific Tweaks from older devices cause problems, especially BT (different hardware and even WM5, 6 and 6.1 specific!).
Just add the known working tweaks for this device via a reg editor ( most Diamond seem to be OK so far) and if you add them one-by-one you will know where problems occur..
Remember, everything on this forum holds the the 'Caveat Emptor' disclaimer..(except you usually get it for free!)
Here, use this from windows when connected via Async if you don't have an internal reg editor (takes up zero room also!)
Search for the thread with Raphael tweaks, before the device was even released someone who got their hands on a pre-release tested out every single tweak from the "Diamond tweaks" thread and gave feedback on if it worked or not, and how much it improved the device. That should narrow it down to the tweaks you should do and the ones you shouldn't bother with.
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Search for the thread with Raphael tweaks, before the device was even released someone who got their hands on a pre-release tested out every single tweak from the "Diamond tweaks" thread and gave feedback on if it worked or not, and how much it improved the device. That should narrow it down to the tweaks you should do and the ones you shouldn't bother with.
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Yup can't agree more..
Search and Ye shall learn.
lol, since i owned the TP i already installed everything on the phone itself and not the storagecard.
and like i mentioned in other threads, i have never hed a problem so far.
(still knocking on wood)
even TT works great, no GPS lag or what ever (the maps are on storagecard but program is not).
I have to say that I installed a ton of programs on my Storage card, and never had any issue. I am using a 2GB MicroSd card. Maybe the problem is with larger capacity cards or the SDHC drivers on the mobile itself?
I have the Touch Pro for a bit over a month now and never had any issues with the screen or anything else other than the GPS. Most of my applications are installed on the memory card, except WkTask and Pocket Wakeup. I have also used advanced config 3.2 to alter many settings. I have a 8Gb microSD Sandisk card which I purchased for my N95 many months ago when they first came out, which is formatted as FAT32. I don't know if these help but I guess other factors should be considered, like the SD card's format, it's speed and it's quality.
I got allmost all mt programs installed on the storage card (8GB SDHC) exept the advanced config. and my phone works like like a dream.. ok that was to exaggerate
But I never had any issues with it since I uninstalled sensor lock from the phone.
Farsquidge said:
Have you used any Tweak programs??
I have found that if you use any 'Generic' Tweak programs the unit starts to go squiffy..seems a few non-device specific Tweaks from older devices cause problems, especially BT (different hardware and even WM5, 6 and 6.1 specific!).
Just add the known working tweaks for this device via a reg editor ( most Diamond seem to be OK so far) and if you add them one-by-one you will know where problems occur..
Remember, everything on this forum holds the the 'Caveat Emptor' disclaimer..(except you usually get it for free!)
Here, use this from windows when connected via Async if you don't have an internal reg editor (takes up zero room also!)
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I used AdvancedConfig to apply the speed boost tweaks as well as various other things, like power saving stuff. I did a registry edit to hide SIM contacts, that didnt save though after a soft reset.
I only had the gray screen once at a restaurant about 4 or 5 days after receiving it. Since then I have had a few freezes, but nothing major. TomTom works great for me too.
Also, something strange, when i got it new, it got very hot like i read on the forum from a few people, but since then, it doesnt do that. It gets a little warm, but not hot.
hey friends,
I installed Google Maps in storage card (4GB HDHC).
sometimes I feel it freezes. I have to close the app and restart it to make it work properly, or I have to do soft reset.
if I will install it in my phone memory, will Google Maps cache consume lot of space?
thehellraiser said:
hey friends,
I installed Google Maps in storage card (4GB HDHC).
sometimes I feel it freezes. I have to close the app and restart it to make it work properly, or I have to do soft reset.
if I will install it in my phone memory, will Google Maps cache consume lot of space?
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... way to bring a post from last year back into action:[
no it will not you should just install it to your phone , there is more than enough room to hold 15 google maps if you wanted so don't fret about installing things to internal memory.
Is anyone running into a problem with apps that have been moved to sdcard just disappearing? Most of the time I see little green droid icons all over my launcher (ADW), and lots of missing apps in the app drawer. I can reboot several times and eventually all show up.
I'm running ee4_debloated-v421 / 0730_charge_voodoo kernel / sdcard_patch. Am on my second handset (first one had a clicky button go dead). The earlier handset occasionally did the same thing.
I presume the sdcard is the culprit, as it is the common element. But I have popped it out, run fdisk and defrag all with no errors.
Any theories??
I had this happen when I first got my charge. How I fixed it was I took the SDCard out of my phone and put it into my flash media reader, and then did a full format using HP's Format tool with default device settings. It took a long time to do the full format, but after doing so, I didn't have any more issues with apps disappearing that were installed to the SDCard.
Full format, huh... (gulp) well it's certainly worth a try! I'll report back.
Thanks,
Larry
ljcorsa said:
Full format, huh... (gulp) well it's certainly worth a try! I'll report back.
Thanks,
Larry
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I know when the phone first came out, there were several users with SDCard problems. I'm not sure how others fixed them, but a full format and a half hour or so fixed mine
Well, I'm disappointed to report that the problem did not disappear :-( Could it be the contents? I copied *everything* from the card before full formatting with the HP tool (which tooks hours as you said), then copied it all back. Same result... if I reboot enough times it will come up with all apps showing.
I've ordered a Class 10 card. Plan to use the HP tool on it straight away. What else would you recommend? Maybe move all the apps back to the phone? Would you start from a fresh load of the ROM?
Many thanks,
Larry
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Well, I'm disappointed to report that the problem did not disappear :-( Could it be the contents? I copied *everything* from the card before full formatting with the HP tool (which tooks hours as you said), then copied it all back. Same result... if I reboot enough times it will come up with all apps showing.
I've ordered a Class 10 card. Plan to use the HP tool on it straight away. What else would you recommend? Maybe move all the apps back to the phone? Would you start from a fresh load of the ROM?
Many thanks,
Larry
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I know that DroidXcon over in the Android Central forums advises NOT to move apps over to the SDcard because of problems like you have experienced...the higher (class) speed card may help. I've noticed that on my stock class 2 card when I view a subdirectory that contains large wallpaper files using QuickPic or Gallery, the thumbnails will often "time out" and not display towards the end of the list unless I refresh the listing several times. I would assume it is for the same reason that recording video to the class 2 card will time out after a few minutes.
Good luck with the Class 10 card...keep us posted!!!
Well, the Class 10 arrived in time to try again, so formatted with HP Utility and copied all the saved files over. Same behavior.
If it's the sheer quantity of apps on the SD card and there is a timeout involved, that might explain it! Reformatting the card would effectively defrag it which would speed it up, perhaps explaining imnuts' observation. And if reading in all those apps at startup is not I/O bound but maybe CPU bound, that would explain my experience.
I'm going to try moving apps back to the phone just to see.
Wow, this is persistent. Moved all the apps from SD back to phone using TiB, which seemed to hang sometimes. Tried different access methods with no clear winner. Anyway, after a reboot, the situation was unchanged. Unreal.
So I am starting from scratch with a freshly-formatted Class10 card, a full data/cache wipe, and a new ROM: GummyChargedFE1.9.1. Haven't had a problem yet, but haven't restored anything to SD either. Proceeding cautiously.
Ok, I'm converted. GummyChargedFE1.9.1 solved this problem. Everything seems to run better. Added the V6 SuperCharger thing which tweaks minfree levels and much more, and the combination runs extremely well.
Biggest problem for me is that I'm satisfied... spent the last two years trying to get my "original" Droid to run well, then got the Charge, started over. What do I do for an encore?
Fast Boot option may be the culprit
In case anyone is following this old thread ...
I did not need to install a new ROM
CUT TO THE SOLUTION BELOW -- SEARCH FOR ////
Some (not all) of my apps moved to SD (all by Titanium Backup Pro) have begun to disappear and (sometimes) reappear without warning after I began to add and delete large Virtual Machines created in QEMU from my 16GB SanDisc class 10 microSD card on my HTC Droid Incredible running rooted stock Verizon Android Froyo 2.2.3. I know this thread is far from my phone's "home base", but from what I can tell this problem with disappearing apps located on an sdcard is NOT determined by hardware or even Android version.
I also happen to use LauncherPro by Federico Carnales instead of the built-in HTC Sense launcher. I noted elsewhere on XDA that a user had suggested that because at least some (maybe all) launchers start before the SD Card that this may be a problem, especially if changes are made to the sdcard that the launcher did not perform, or was not active during their performance by other apps such as Titanium Backup. That fits my situation, because I unmounted the SD, physically removed it to a PC, and added/deleted large VM files to save (lots) of time. No problems of this sort before I did this, so there must be some connection.
I noted that other users have tried reformatting SD, substituting different brands of SD, using newer/older SD etc. None of these reliably helped. So I skipped these options.
//// The (simple!) solution I tried that SEEMS to work (only time will tell!) is buried in the main Android Settings (accessed from the Menu button while in Home screen). Under "Applications" there is a setting "Fast Boot" that I checked long ago and forgot about (it seemed like a good thing to do at the time). The text warns "Turn off to use some Market apps" (that shows the age of my 2-yr old used phone and Android OS -- ohmygosh!-- because it refers to Market rather than Google Play Store!) Anyway, I unchecked the option and rebooted the phone.
Yes, it took a bit longer to boot (maybe a whole minute!), but after waiting about another minute ALL my home screen apps had normal icons and loaded properly. Titanium Backup Pro batch scenarios confirmed there were no apps in a forced uninstalled state (i.e. I had not done the deed, the system somehow had done it or at least rendered the apps "invisible" to Titanium, which decided they needed reinstallation).
The only odd behaviour was that auto brightness was turned off after I unchecked Fast Boot and rebooted. Going into Android Settings > Display and rechecking "auto brightness" took care of that. No other oddities or strange behaviours thus far (but it has only been about an hour).
I will report back here on this thread only (Samsung Fascinate > Fascinate Q&A > What just happend? apps on sdcard) if anything else requires reporting. Silence implies success!
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873670
(I am copying this post to other relevant threads, but will not post anything further elsewhere -- only there. This is a bit arbitrary (although this thread appears to be the most recent active one on this topic), but I hope this approach pleases the XDA sysops/admins) :angel:
Hardware: Verizon HTC One M8, Gunmetal Gray, with a Sandisk Ultra 64GB microSDHC card (Class 10)
Modifications: Rooted, S-OFFed, TWRP 2.7.0.2 and ViperOne(M8) installed @ version 1.3.1, Firmware, Radios and hboot updated from Santod's uploads. Installed Viper4Android FX v2.3.3.0, using "High" quality driver. I've modified the EQ curve a bit, but made no other changes to effects. It's only enabled for headphones.
Problem: Occasional glitches when listening to MP3s via Google Music (and only experienced when using headphones so far). I'm not playing from the cloud; the MP3s are stored on the microSDHC card. Seems to occur every 20 minutes or so, within the first 10-30 seconds of the start of an MP3. It's not at the same point each time, and I can't repeat it on demand or I would assume it's a bad copy of the file. The glitch is a very brief but very noticeable gap/hesitation in the file that's playing, like it's rebuffering or something. It only lasts a tenth of a second or so, but that's plenty long enough to be noticed.
I'm tending to think it's a problem with Viper4Android; next step is to uninstall it and see if things improve. Not sure what I'm going to do for EQ without it, though.
If anyone has thoughts to share, they'll be appreciated.
I've been experiencing the same thing. I've tried several different audio players but there's little difference; there are skips in tracks played off external storage. I'm on stock rom, with faux kernel. I experienced this with a completely stock device. My gut feeling is that the issue lies in the sd card, I have been trying different i/o schedulers and read ahead cache values. Some combinations have helped slightly but not enough to eradicate the issue, it could even just be coincidental.
I'm going to go ahead and say it has nothing to do with the rom, and it shouldn't be a cpu issue like I've seen on other devices since the glitch occurs regardless if the phone is awake or not.
Same here, playing off the sd card it will skip
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broprah said:
I've been experiencing the same thing. I've tried several different audio players but there's little difference; there are skips in tracks played off external storage. I'm on stock rom, with faux kernel. I experienced this with a completely stock device. My gut feeling is that the issue lies in the sd card, I have been trying different i/o schedulers and read ahead cache values. Some combinations have helped slightly but not enough to eradicate the issue, it could even just be coincidental.
I'm going to go ahead and say it has nothing to do with the rom, and it shouldn't be a cpu issue like I've seen on other devices since the glitch occurs regardless if the phone is awake or not.
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krazie1 said:
Same here, playing off the sd card it will skip
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Wow, so I'm not alone. I'm surprised I didn't find more hits on this issue when I searched; perhaps my google-fu is weak.
I couldn't imagine it being hardware related; this thing is orders of magnitude more powerful than any of my old MP3 players. I guess I'll live on the bleeding edge with ROMs and new kernels to see if it clears up. Thanks for your feedback!
Happens on my stock rooted/s-off using Poweramp
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the CPU being used too much. I was messing around with different clock speeds and trying to see how low I could take it and still be usable, and the lower I got, the more and more glitches came up.
Also, it is not just for mp3's. I get the glitches on spotify too, so I'm assuming it has to do with the overall audio output process, not just the reading of music files.
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I'm pretty sure it has to do with the CPU being used too much. I was messing around with different clock speeds and trying to see how low I could take it and still be usable, and the lower I got, the more and more glitches came up.
Also, it is not just for mp3's. I get the glitches on spotify too, so I'm assuming it has to do with the overall audio output process, not just the reading of music files.
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I'm inclined to say it is not a cpu issue, as I haven't encountered any problems using music stored on the internal memory.
I've been giving this issue some thought, and did a little research (probably not enough to talk authoritatively, though ). I've come up with the following observations:
This issue appears to have surfaced with Kit Kat.
Wiith Kit Kat, Google made some significant changes to the handling of external/removable SD-cards; no more direct write access to them from applications.
A lot of media player applications were "broken" by KitKat and needed to be redesigned to support the new restrictions.
The standard protocol for moving files to the removable SD-card is now MTP.
Which raises the following questions, at least for me:
Does this mean that MTP is the protocol for accessing MP3/media files from player apps, and therefore there's now an arbitrator/server in between the filesystem and media players?
Now that direct write access to SD-cards has been restored via an edit to /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml, is there a chance that an older MP3 player may have better luck playing MP3 files, given that it would probably use direct filesystem access vs. going through MTP (if in fact MTP is used for "new" applications)?
So it's not just me? It doesn't happen as often for me after the ota
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Dodge DeBoulet said:
I've been giving this issue some thought, and did a little research (probably not enough to talk authoritatively, though ). I've come up with the following observations:
This issue appears to have surfaced with Kit Kat.
Wiith Kit Kat, Google made some significant changes to the handling of external/removable SD-cards; no more direct write access to them from applications.
A lot of media player applications were "broken" by KitKat and needed to be redesigned to support the new restrictions.
The standard protocol for moving files to the removable SD-card is now MTP.
Which raises the following questions, at least for me:
Does this mean that MTP is the protocol for accessing MP3/media files from player apps, and therefore there's now an arbitrator/server in between the filesystem and media players?
Now that direct write access to SD-cards has been restored via an edit to /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml, is there a chance that an older MP3 player may have better luck playing MP3 files, given that it would probably use direct filesystem access vs. going through MTP (if in fact MTP is used for "new" applications)?
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You're doing god's work, man. It would certainly make sense if mtp was the reason behind all of this, as mtp is generally broken and incapable of parallel tasks. Perhaps, then, there is some kind of operation that the OS is performing at fairly regular intervals that disrupt what should otherwise be a simple read. Media scanning? Entropy generation? I'm not really sure, but clearly there is something silly going on in the I/O. Maybe a programmer like @SSukk could shed light on this
I think part of the problem is the amount of storage on the larger cards, and/or the fact that they're just not fast enough . My 64g card is a ultra and has problems. I bought one of the faster extreme pros and have never had any problems even when fully loaded. It's only 16g though. When the larger cards get faster speeds well see this disappear entirely.
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I think part of the problem is the amount of storage on the larger cards, and/or the fact that they're just not fast enough . My 64g card is a ultra and has problems. I bought one of the faster extreme pros and have never had any problems even when fully loaded. It's only 16g though. When the larger cards get faster speeds well see this disappear entirely.
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A microSDHC card doesn't have to be very fast to keep up with the demands of playing MP3s. MP3 players were using much slower flash memory 10+ years ago without glitches or skipping.
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You're doing god's work, man. It would certainly make sense if mtp was the reason behind all of this, as mtp is generally broken and incapable of parallel tasks. Perhaps, then, there is some kind of operation that the OS is performing at fairly regular intervals that disrupt what should otherwise be a simple read. Media scanning? Entropy generation? I'm not really sure, but clearly there is something silly going on in the I/O. Maybe a programmer like @SSukk could shed light on this
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I think you're onto something. I'd love to get some input from someone who understands the nuts and bolts of media playback in Android.
I have Google Music playing from the cloud on occasion, but most of my playlists are cached to SD. I don't use anything to modify output other than leaving BoomSound on, and I've not run into this glitch with headphones or Bluetooth,
Bump!! Wanna see more answers to this question! Haven't put MP3s on my phone yet but already installed a 64 GB card for the intentions on doing so!
Had mine in airplane mode for a while this morning as I was traveling to NYC. If anything, the glitches seemed to occur more often. I don't think they were predictable enough to say with authority that airplane mode was related, though.
Just curious, how are everyone's cards formatted? My 64gb is fat32, apparently. I suspect this to be a problem, even though it wasn't on other devices. However, I'd like to see if we all have that in common before I reformat and have transfer 60 gigs of music back over...
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Just curious, how are everyone's cards formatted? My 64gb is fat32, apparently. I suspect this to be a problem, even though it wasn't on other devices. However, I'd like to see if we all have that in common before I reformat and have transfer 60 gigs of music back over...
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I didn't format mine after installing it, and I'll bet it came formatted as ExFat. I'll see if I can find a way to verify and report back.
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I didn't format mine after installing it, and I'll bet it came formatted as ExFat. I'll see if I can find a way to verify and report back.
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I used this to figure out how I was formatted: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sylkat.AParted
Mine's definitely ExFAT.
On a related note . . .
I was sitting in the Stage Door Diner at 33rd and 8th Ave this evening (no, that doesn't really have anything to do with this issue, but it injects a little bit of local color into the story . . . I live in Maine, but I love NYC ), browsing XDA on my M8 while stuffing my face. For no apparent reason that I could see, a toast popped up with "Preparing SD Card." Now, I wasn't doing anything specific that would be accessing the SD card; as I said, I was just doing a bit of web browsing. But I thought that toast normally displayed only when the phone was booted and/or plugged into a computer via USB (and nowadays, with MTP being the default transfer mechanism to the SD card, it normally isn't seen then). But it looks like some process was doing something that caused the SD card to be "prepared," whatever that means, and since my music is on it, I'm suspecting it might have an effect on playback if it occurs when listening to MP3s.
Has anyone else noticed this symptom during normal usage?
So I just got my Z3 and a 32gb sd card, and I would really like to have my music collection on my sd card. I found out how you do it but you need a hardware menu key for that.
Do you guys have any idea how I can store my offline tracks on my sd card?
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So I just got my Z3 and a 32gb sd card, and I would really like to have my music collection on my sd card. I found out how you do it but you need a hardware menu key for that.
Do you guys have any idea how I can store my offline tracks on my sd card?
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First uninstall Spotify from your phone
Then before you reinstall it make your your 32GB card has more free space in it than the internal card. Spotify will automatically create it's offline storage folder on the SD Card with the most space at the time of installation.
That's it. Nothing more complicated than that and it will create this folder on the SD Card even on Kit Kat Android.
Even with a hardware menu key it still wouldn't be possible.
This phone hates SD cards altogether unfortunately. No option to transfer apps to sd card, no way to transfer things using 3rd party apps, and most annoyingly of all, you can't even transfer content to it over USB either, as either the file explorer crashes or Sony's own media go app crashes.
Simply put, the phone does not have permission to access the SD card for anything other than the built in apps, i.e. file explorer.
I had to use one of those sandisk usb to micro usb flash drives just to get my music on there. 2MB/s read/write speeds are NOT fun when it involves 20GB of data.
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Even with a hardware menu key it still wouldn't be possible.
This phone hates SD cards altogether unfortunately. No option to transfer apps to sd card, no way to transfer things using 3rd party apps, and most annoyingly of all, you can't even transfer content to it over USB either, as either the file explorer crashes or Sony's own media go app crashes.
Simply put, the phone does not have permission to access the SD card for anything other than the built in apps, i.e. file explorer.
I had to use one of those sandisk usb to micro usb flash drives just to get my music on there. 2MB/s read/write speeds are NOT fun when it involves 20GB of data.
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This is just plain incorrect information. See my post above.
I have Spotify, PocketCasts and tTorrent Pro all accessing and writing to my external SD Card on my unrooted Xperia Z3. Once the app being installed creates a folder on the SD Card then it can write to that folder.
Thank you G1032, it worked, I think.
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This is just plain incorrect information. See my post above.
I have Spotify, PocketCasts and tTorrent Pro all accessing and writing to my external SD Card on my unrooted Xperia Z3. Once the app being installed creates a folder on the SD Card then it can write to that folder.
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Could be different for each region then I guess.
As for the stock unbranded UK one I have, it just doesn't allow it at all. Same was true for the previous 2 defective Z3s I've had. The whole thing is botched for me.
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Could be different for each region then I guess.
As for the stock unbranded UK one I have, it just doesn't allow it at all. Same was true for the previous 2 defective Z3s I've had. The whole thing is botched for me.
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What was defective about them? My camera app has started freezing today and the the phone shut down and wouldn't boot up again unti lI plugged the charger in...(there was 73% battery left)
I'm thinking of returning it on Monday.
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What was defective about them? My camera app has started freezing today and the the phone shut down and wouldn't boot up again unti lI plugged the charger in...(there was 73% battery left)
I'm thinking of returning it on Monday.
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The first one had a very poor screen, the bottom half was very bright compared to the top, as if the panel was bent showing more backlight through at the bottom. It also had a broken wifi/bluetooth chip. Wifi signal was unobtainable on my AC router in a location where all my other devices had full reception. Bluetooth dropped out when I put it in my pocket or covered the back of the phone with my hand. On top of all that, the battery drain was ridiculous. On 20% brightness I was struggling to get through the day even with many features and sync disabled.
The replacement had a faulty camera button, so I didnt even bother to go any further with it. The screen was far better in colour and contrast though compared to the first, which was strange. No horrible backlight bleed at the bottom though.
The one I'm using now is almost perfect aside from the top speaker crackling/buzzing. There is small backlight bleed at the bottom, but it isn't bad enough to make the screen uneven like the first.
If the speaker becomes more of an issue, I think I'm just gonna return and stick it out with the Moto G till the Note 4 drops in price (should be about 400 quid by christmas).
Your camera issue sounds software related though. Similar to the SD issue I have probably.
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Your camera issue sounds software related though. Similar to the SD issue I have probably.
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I think you're probably right but I'm going to return it anyway. Should be no issue getting a new one. I'm not having a Z3 that freezes every time I take a photo or refuses to power on until plugged in!!
G1032 said:
I think you're probably right but I'm going to return it anyway. Should be no issue getting a new one. I'm not having a Z3 that freezes every time I take a photo or refuses to power on until plugged in!!
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If it does it every photo then you certainly should get one. Sounds very annoying! Think I've seen a couple of people on here report similar issues.
Don't think I've seen a phone launch with so many different issues at once.
I just upgraded to the android marshmallow update and now when I go to sync music in windows media player it just says "windows media player encountered a problem while syncing to the device" and will not work. I changed it from usb for charging to mtp. For some reason you have to change it manually now.
Another thing I noticed is the internal storage can be viewed from the computer but the SD card shows that there is storage being used but when I go to open the sd card in windows it says it's empty
Same problem here
I may have figured it out but you potentially lose all your data on the card. I took my card out and copied everything as is on the card to a folder on my computer then put the card back in the phone and let the phone format it as portable storage not that new use as internal storage option that marshmallow uses and plugged the phone into my computer and copied the contents back to the phone. Now it seems to sync in windows media player and the SD card shows the files in windows explorer.
Will update this if the problem comes back
You will have to switch to MTP every time with MM, but if you're rooted there is an Xposed fix for it. I wonder how that problem managed to make it through 3 soaks without getting fixed. It was reported but like most soak reports, it was ignored.
I am using my SanDisk card as internal with excellent results knowing that if and when it goes, I'll have to reinstall everything that's on it. There is a r/w limit on SD cards, but my personal experience is, it varies from months to years. In other words a "crap shoot".
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So I take it this is a universal problem with everyone who updates their moto g 3rd gen?
Tel864 said:
You will have to switch to MTP every time with MM, but if you're rooted there is an Xposed fix for it. I wonder how that problem managed to make it through 3 soaks without getting fixed. It was reported but like most soak reports, it was ignored.
I am using my SanDisk card as internal with excellent results knowing that if and when it goes, I'll have to reinstall everything that's on it. There is a r/w limit on SD cards, but my personal experience is, it varies from months to years. In other words a "crap shoot".
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I wouldn't worry too much about the read write limit on the SD card although it is wise to back your stuff up off of it regularly. I have been using the same 32gb sandisk sd card that I got back in late 2011 and it is still fine even though for a few years when I had a cheap phone with only 4gb storage and I installed all my apps to the sd card that would transfer. So that is a lot of read write cycles. I guess it really depends on the quality of the sd card you get.
And yeah that having to switch to mtp every time is sort of annoying. I hope if we get a 6.0.1 update that gets fixed. I have also noticed my battery is draining a lot faster now and android OS and android system are the culprits. I thought we had doze now to make the battery life even better. At least that is what I was expecting even though the battery life was fine in lollipop
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So I take it this is a universal problem with everyone who updates their moto g 3rd gen?
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Actually, I think this is a universal "problem" with Marshmallow... Any by problem I mean security feature enabled by Google, so that if you plug into a random 'thing' it won't do something to compromise your device or privacy automatically. Apparently there have been cases of that have occurred, you connect your phone to <something> to charge it and it copies off all your data in the process.