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So I was looking at my carrier yesterday to check on something with my bill and saw that Cincinnati Bell Wireless is no longer carrying the XT720 anymore. Not even being offered as a refurbished model. Hellmonger was lost b/c his XT broke and his carrier gave him an HTC Penache as a replacement.
I did some looking around and Videotron and FIDO are no longer selling it, Wind has it still for sale (check website for details). Not sure about any other carriers because frankly I don't know anymore really, but might want to check yours.
Just total speculation on my part, but maybe Google dropped support for all the "obsolete" phones to make way for their new crop of super-phones. More speculation that Motorola got pissed that CBW gave customers Root Permission with their 2.2 upgrade.
If everyone is dropping this phone, then we are a dying breed in this forum, but then why all the new Korean 2.2's?
Just letting you know what I have found. As long as my phone is working and I don't have to replace it, I'll be around. Hope most others will too.
http://shop.windmobile.ca/ProductCa...|utmctr=wind+mobile&__utmv=-&__utmk=224610458
http://translate.google.com/transla...=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1024&bih=667&prmd=imvns
http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido/Smartphones
Edit:::: Took out WIND $ b/c billing is not the point of this. It was that the XT720 is being dropped by some carriers and to check yours just in case you may have insurance/warranty issues.
XT720 is the last of an old abandoned platform (sholes--the original Droid). The Droid is now 2 years old and most of the original Verizon Droid owners are due for hardware replacements (which Verizon's Nexus Prime seems to be targeting). From reading the git commit logs in Motorola's kernel source for XT720, the Milestone XT720 was intended to be a T-Mobile device. But of course all the other manufacturers started coming out with dual-cores, etc and Motorola was caught with it's pants down trying to milk sholes to death. When T-Mobile passed that was probably pretty much the nail in the coffin and upgrade/development was canned and Motorola looked to sell it for what it could. Then Motorola split and Motorola Mobility decided the XT720 wasn't worth any effort for bug fixes either esp. since Atrix and Xoom were both tanking and Bionic had to be re-engineered. Seriously, why would Google give a ****? Android's in growth mode--people stuck on 2.1 are a smaller and smaller and smaller fraction of Android users every day. Google *never* cares about small fractions of their users. I doubt Google will have any real control or influence on Motorola for at least a year. Nightmare: Motorola adopts Google's "legendary" customer support policies.
@Woodrube
i think you mis-read the website, read again
http://shop.windmobile.ca/ProductCa...ls.aspx?id=Motorola+XT720(WINDCA)&color=green
it's still at $400 minus whatever in store discount
the $59 is pay by instalment, which they charger you on a per month basis until you pay off the $400
and FIDO Canada never carried this phone as far as i know, is not even compatible frequency wise
Regardless of whether it is $59 or $400 it seems that this phone is being dropped by carriers. And I did misread that Fido carried it. Sorry about that. I thought that I had seen below some member's avatars the Fido emblem, but maybe not.
Just giving a heads up as if we have to "replace" our phones, they probably won't do an XT for XT. All i can say is check your carrier in case something happens and you have to turn it in for repairs or some other reason.
Edit: Seeing a whole bunch of unlocking services for XT's on Fido. Scam since it doesn't work on Fido?
Yea Cincinnati bell dropped it a couple weeks ago. So I jumped on the nexus s train for a great deal of $100. I couldn't be happier. Now I'm FREE of the locked bootloader. Woo hoo!!!!!!!!
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the only other Milestone that works in FIDO, is not a XT
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_milestone-3001.php
so, yes it could very well be a SCAM
there are too many of those bogus unlock places, a lot of people using Samsung phones got tricked
Back to the XT720 service issue, as long as it's a trade up, when they do a service exchange, i see no problem in that.
but a trade down, would really suck
at this point i think it's only Cincinati Bell that is dropping it off, and Tmobile USA
http://find.t-mobile.com/controller...primary&Ntt=motorola&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial
from the Canadian side Vidéotron
http://www.videotron.com/service/mobile/appareils/details.do?noAppareil=1014&init=true
and Mobilicity
http://mobilicity.ca/products/
seems to have dropped it as well
AllGamer said:
at this point i think it's only Cincinati Bell that is dropping it off, and Tmobile USA
http://find.t-mobile.com/controller...primary&Ntt=motorola&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial
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I don't think T-mobile USA ever carried Milestone XT720?
In North America, I believe the only carriers to sell the XT720 are or WERE Videotron, Cincinnati Bell, and WIND Mobile. All fairly small companies, hence the reason why the XT720 was abandoned by Motorola. If T-Mobile had picked it up though, we probably at least would have seen a real froyo.
@AllGamer
I am running fido on the XT
Hi
This why I have stopped messing around cm7 finally went back to cm6 1.2 like it the best and I have sold all my extra milestone xt.
Been working on mobile windows again don't know if will stay with droid.
Cincinnati bell know about xt issues sorry their just snakes in the grass
I will unlock this phone very soon.
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doombox414 said:
@AllGamer
I am running fido on the XT
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yes, but you wont get 3G
all phones has quad bands for voice
Locked means carrier locked right? I don't think any of the phones sold in Singapore are locked. We can use any carrier we want.
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eejin2 said:
Locked means carrier locked right? I don't think any of the phones sold in Singapore are locked. We can use any carrier we want.
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Yup, just the way it is in North America
when cincy bell refused to unlock my xt, that was the last straw. i decided id never buy another phone from them and i would only buy tmo unlocked phones. when i bought my mytouch 4g 6 months ago, i realized how inferior the xt really was.
if you can wait to get another phone, do so later this year or early next year. tmo will be getting the sgs2 and the htc amaze 4g
there's no comparison it's completely 2 different kind of beast, 3G vs 4G, that itself gives away the huge generation gap difference
Apparently the CBW essurance insurance warehouse still has plenty of the Xt's in stock. They are shipping me one to replace my sisters. Sucks Arse! lol. They should be running out soon though we can only hope.
wow, no wonder i never got 3G ever on my phone cause I'm on fido. but I'm not using a data plan anyways so it doesn't matter right.
I was sorta surprised to see this topic, cause I thought the XT720 was done for long ago. Look at the phones that are out as of now. It can't compare anyways. Even the zero dollar phones from Samsung LG and HTC are a lot better than the stock XT720 experience. The wildfire S is especially great for newbs. Its cheap and lag free almost.
I still support this phone strongly though. i wish they made some sorta sequel...maybe Moto will surprise us. I don't get why they don't make one like the droid 2 and 3...
mrmako777 said:
when cincy bell refused to unlock my xt, that was the last straw. i decided id never buy another phone from them and i would only buy tmo unlocked phones. when i bought my mytouch 4g 6 months ago, i realized how inferior the xt really was.
if you can wait to get another phone, do so later this year or early next year. tmo will be getting the sgs2 and the htc amaze 4g
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So let me ask you this. See that you are local (CBW user) and have a Tmo MyTouch4g. Are you using that with CBW sim card and getting full E, G, 4G use? Whenever I am out of town, my phone always reverts to ATT signal. I know they use different frequencies, but I always thought CBW's parent was ATT (or may that is there go-to backup signal). If I wanted to buy an unlocked phone, I am wondering if I shoudl get an ATT or Tmo. I thought it would be ATT but if you are using a Tmo then maybe I am wrong.
Woodrube said:
So let me ask you this. See that you are local (CBW user) and have a Tmo MyTouch4g. Are you using that with CBW sim card and getting full E, G, 4G use? Whenever I am out of town, my phone always reverts to ATT signal. I know they use different frequencies, but I always thought CBW's parent was ATT (or may that is there go-to backup signal). If I wanted to buy an unlocked phone, I am wondering if I shoudl get an ATT or Tmo. I thought it would be ATT but if you are using a Tmo then maybe I am wrong.
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Well, CBW was Cincinnati Bell (80%)+AT&T Wireless (20%), but then Cingular bought AT&T Wireless and Cincinnati Bell bought the 20% from Cingular. Then Cingular changed their name to AT&T Mobility. Interesting trivia, Cincinnati Bell was also never part of Ma Bell.
I remember all that now. Ah Ma Bell. Sometimes I long for the old days when monopolies were rampant with their excellent customer service and product advancement. Psych!!
I'm a verizon user, but my father wants to replace his old Nokia feature phone with something newer. He's a tracfone user, and as I understand it their BYOD plans are CDMA only. You can get a VZW Moto G today, but I believe they won't unlock the device for use on other networks for 6 months.
So, I can get a GSM version, but am unfamiliar with GSM MVNO's. Which MVNO using AT&T has the least expensive (potential) plan. I don't think he's ever sent a text, and I don't see him using data on the device much, but I think he would appreciate the camera and google maps. An unlimited plan is pure overkill for him. He's the definition of the minimal user.
Probably Straight Talk Sims.
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Coop9 said:
I'm a verizon user, but my father wants to replace his old Nokia feature phone with something newer. He's a tracfone user, and as I understand it their BYOD plans are CDMA only. You can get a VZW Moto G today, but I believe they won't unlock the device for use on other networks for 6 months.
So, I can get a GSM version, but am unfamiliar with GSM MVNO's. Which MVNO using AT&T has the least expensive (potential) plan. I don't think he's ever sent a text, and I don't see him using data on the device much, but I think he would appreciate the camera and google maps. An unlimited plan is pure overkill for him. He's the definition of the minimal user.
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Actually I've been looking into this recently myself. I'm currently with Tracfone but I'm thinking about upgrading my phone (Moto G is one strong consideration).
Straight Talk is one option but it really depends on needs. If he's a light user, PayAsYouGo may be the best. If he's consumes quite a bit of minutes, prepaid may be the path. I would look at H2o or Airvoice also. With either you could possibly get a light user down around what TF cost (depending on the plan used there). They both also offer monthly prepaids less expensive than ST. However, I think ST is 4G and the two I mentioned may be only 3G if that matters. Both H2o and AV use AT&T GSM so that would be a consideration. Of course, Verizon and AT&T are very large providers but you would have to see what works in his area.
And yes, you are correct. The new CDMA Moto G will not work on TF. And I seen some stated that will be that way for at least one year.
wrj54 said:
Actually I've been looking into this recently myself. I'm currently with Tracfone but I'm thinking about upgrading my phone (Moto G is one strong consideration).
Straight Talk is one option but it really depends on needs. If he's a light user, PayAsYouGo may be the best. If he's consumes quite a bit of minutes, prepaid may be the path. I would look at H2o or Airvoice also. With either you could possibly get a light user down around what TF cost (depending on the plan used there). They both also offer monthly prepaids less expensive than ST. However, I think ST is 4G and the two I mentioned may be only 3G if that matters. Both H2o and AV use AT&T GSM so that would be a consideration. Of course, Verizon and AT&T are very large providers but you would have to see what works in his area.
And yes, you are correct. The new CDMA Moto G will not work on TF. And I seen some stated that will be that way for at least one year.
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Why won't it work on Tracfone's BYOP plan? All you should have to do is call them and let them transfer everything. Jus t because it's locked to Verizon doesn't mean you can't flash it to someone else I think... TF operates on Verizon as well.
wws12 said:
Why won't it work on Tracfone's BYOP plan? All you should have to do is call them and let them transfer everything. Jus t because it's locked to Verizon doesn't mean you can't flash it to someone else I think... TF operates on Verizon as well.
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Verizon controls what phones are allowed on their network; not TF. Page Plus wireless (which is also a Verizon MVNO provider) customers have the same issue. They want the Moto G but it's the network owner who sets the rules.
You'll find it easier to use higher end phones on MVNOs who employee T-Mobile or AT&T (GSM). That's why I suggested the ones I did. And by no means is the list limited to Airvoice, H2o, Straight Talk. There are more choices. Just not Verizon.
Coop9 said:
I'm a verizon user, but my father wants to replace his old Nokia feature phone with something newer. He's a tracfone user, and as I understand it their BYOD plans are CDMA only. You can get a VZW Moto G today, but I believe they won't unlock the device for use on other networks for 6 months.
So, I can get a GSM version, but am unfamiliar with GSM MVNO's. Which MVNO using AT&T has the least expensive (potential) plan. I don't think he's ever sent a text, and I don't see him using data on the device much, but I think he would appreciate the camera and google maps. An unlimited plan is pure overkill for him. He's the definition of the minimal user.
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What about Ting?
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yguns76 said:
What about Ting?
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Can I get a Moto G that will work with Ting? I know the Boost mobile version is on the Sprint bands, but it isn't listed on Ting's whitelist.
AFAIK Straight Talk has pretty much stopped selling AT&T sims (only T-Mo ones now) from what I've read recently, the same with Net10 and other AT&T-based MVNOs because it seems like AT&T is really pushing for its Gophone pre-paid as an MVNO competitor (and withdrawing its support for MVNOs it was selling access to gradually). They've revamped their prices recently to be more competitive, and that's the reason I've switched from my old provider (Virgin) --- I'm currently on the $60 unlim txt/voice/2GB data plan (cheaper when buying refills through resellers).
The cheapest Gophone plan for smartphones is $25 / mo for 250 mins unlim domestic text & MMS (and a set of countries), no data included.
If you're not averse to T-Mobile, they have a fantastic low-minutes high data plan ($30 a month for 100 mins, unlimited text & data (throttled at 5GB) but I'm unsure if you can use a Moto G you've not purchased from them with the plan.
ok i have a lg g2 and cracked the screen for the second time and ive had it with this phone each time had a case on it. now i see Verizon sell the moto G prepaid for $100, and i wanted to know if i could buy that and use it my plan and not the prepaid plan?
Call Verizon support , probably you`ll be able to switch the plan.
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ok i have a lg g2 and cracked the screen for the second time and ive had it with this phone each time had a case on it. now i see Verizon sell the moto G prepaid for $100, and i wanted to know if i could buy that and use it my plan and not the prepaid plan?
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No.. at least not right away.
My understanding is that you can only switch after you've been on pre-paid for at least 6 months.
And trust me, if you are coming from a LG G2, you'll find the Moto G kinda slow, with smaller low-res screen and above all.. NO 4G !
I'm currently using the Boost Moto G 2013 (XT1031) on PagePlus. I used this method. I've never been able to find information on XT1031 being activated on StraightTalk, so I've always stuck to PagePlus's 55$ plan (Unlimited TnT, 3GB data); however, StraightTalk's 45$ plan is the same but 2.5GB a month. A half a G is not worth 10$ to me, so I've always been interested in switching but I could never find any information so I basically gave up. But with these recent reports of the Moto G successfully being activated on Tracfone, my curiosity is renewed. I bought the XT1031 because I did my research and knew it could be flashed to PP. I have never been interested in anything but Verizon because in my area Verizon is by far the best carrier. With AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and every other carrier, there are dead spots everywhere. Verizon undoubtedly has the best coverage within a 200 mile radius around here.
So, now I'm reaching out to you professional XDA users. Is it possible to activate the XT1031 on ST with Verizon (NOT SPRINT) coverage? Using ST's BYOP online page, my MEID says it's compatible; nonetheless, as I've stated before, I can't find any information on ST and I'm afraid of wasting 45$ on lousy Sprint coverage or it not working. I'm a self-supporting college student at my local university and a waste of 45$ would be murder to me. Please help with any information
Thank you for reading my thread!
Just saw this on AP. New, not refurbished.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...unlocked-lg-g-flex-2-selling-on-ebay-for-290/
Update:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171838677560
Why I bought it
Tikerz said:
Just saw this on AP. New, not refurbished.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...unlocked-lg-g-flex-2-selling-on-ebay-for-290/
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I got one for that price as well (brand new in box); I couldn't pass it up, I loved my original Flex (which I paid more for lol). The Snapdragon 810 overheating issues caused a lot of people to question the demand for this phone, so they're selling them off at low low prices. The thing is, we have all the resources to root, debloat, and change thermal throttling settings all on this board. My phone is a powerhouse on 5.1.1 rooted (with Xposed, yay!); I experience no lag whatsoever, and my benchmark scores are awesome. In my personal opinion, a lot of people were claiming sluggishness and attributing it to the hardware. However, I've frozen the default launcher via TiB and have been using Nova Launcher since day one (even on 5.0.1), and I never once experienced any sluggishness that so many people claimed to be an issue. Possibly LG just developed a crap UI (disregarding bloatware) and had it chewing up much more resources than it needed to.
Wow, price dropped $40! Only $249 now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171838677560
Wow
Tikerz said:
Wow, price dropped $40! Only $249 now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171838677560
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A flagship for that price is astounding, and the Flex 2 is certainly a flagship device.
If the price keeps dropping, we might actually get some unlocked bootloaders, etc, as some devs (whom this is their hobby) might be able to afford another one should they manage to brick.
Over 1200 sold in that listing so maybe there will be some new visitors to this forum.
I've bought from this seller before. These are the AT&T models and they provide you with an unlock code. I too am looking at a G flex 2, and while I like the price....I'd rather the faster updates from LG at the cost of being stuck on H+ on t-mobile.
I just ordered one. I'm within my 14 day return period from AT&T so I'm going to return this one. For $250 it's a steal compared to $700 from AT&T on Next plan.
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Good
You'll be happy with it, guaranteed. Especially if you're active on XDA
Also bought one, good price.
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Yup, just bought one myself.... little worried though, don't see much success with people making hotspot work. May have one for sale if I can't make it work.
trappxl said:
I've bought from this seller before. These are the AT&T models and they provide you with an unlock code. I too am looking at a G flex 2, and while I like the price....I'd rather the faster updates from LG at the cost of being stuck on H+ on t-mobile.
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So can't get LTE or 4G on TMO for this one huh?
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I grabbed one of these as well! The fact that the price is so low and there is root for 5.1.1 AND the 3GB of RAM and 32GB storage seems like a win! Should replace my Note II nicely.
Plus it's curvy and weird. Most phones are boring. Weird is good! ?
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Already got the G4 H815 US variants from LG for 3 months now. I still want to get this for spare phone or G4 as spare xddddd but g flex 2 have no leather covers.
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Tempted to get this at that price. This deal is just so hard to pass up.
I'm pretty smitten with this phone. I was worried about the 810 but so far so good. I've had two times where it got a little hot and dimmed the screen to 80% but who cares. This thing is a beast.. And finally LG pit in a good amp! I love using headphone with it where that sounded like **** on two different g3s.
I got the 5.1.1 update other then that I don't know what else to do really to make it any better. I did get used to stock with my Moto X 2014.. But if the tradeoff for this killer device is Optimus ui, then so be it. I got mine last week for 360 on amazon. I've had a few bad phone experiences on eBay so I leave them alone for the most part.
My favorite part so far is what everyone else hates on.. The 810. It and the adreno 430 are pretty amazing. No real purpose to my post other then to show some love for this thing
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So can't get LTE or 4G on TMO for this one huh?
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From what I understand, the H950 will give LTE on both T-Mobile and AT&T. It's just that I'm in a place where I prefer unlocked and rather not buy carrier branded for GSM. So if it means I'm stuck on H+ I may be fine with that. Besides, it's to compliment my Z3, which I get full LTE on anyways...
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Looks like the H959 I wanted is the 32GB/2GB RAM variant. I may end up grabbing one of these H950s if I decide on the G flex 2.
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From what I understand, the H950 will give LTE on both T-Mobile and AT&T. It's just that I'm in a place where I prefer unlocked and rather not buy carrier branded for GSM. So if it means I'm stuck on H+ I may be fine with that. Besides, it's to compliment my Z3, which I get full LTE on anyways...
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Looks like the H959 I wanted is the 32GB/2GB RAM variant. I may end up grabbing one of these H950s if I decide on the G flex 2.
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I was fine with not having 4g.. And had almost bought the intl. Version. What I didn't like was the 32/gb and 2gig ram setup. My at&t flex2 has 32 and 3. Plus I us an at&t go phone sim so it was worth spending the extra 70 or so dollars to have some future proofing with the 3 gigs of ram.
Plus having a 64-bit phone with under 3 gigs of ram seems silly. I know it's different from a pic but still it's like having bike tires on a Ferrari, just kinda moot. I'm very happy with my flex2.
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So can't get LTE or 4G on TMO for this one huh?
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H950 will get LTE on both AT&T and T-Mobile.
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Unreal, I just bought one from them last week at the $289, and even at that price this phone is a beast, and after the 5.1.1 update I don't see any lag or getting too hot anymore. Get this phone, you won't regret it, it's amazing.
Deal is dead. They raised the price to $349.