Self explanatory title.
All signs point to yes
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If so, I'm out.
I just read that in the us the phone will be unlocked
Where? The Z1s was not unlockable. There is no precedence that you can unlock it.
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Where? The Z1s was not unlockable. There is no precedence that you can unlock it.
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http://www.christiantoday.com/article/sony.xperia.z3.compact.release.date.asia.us.launch/40791.htm
It was saying sim unlocked for the Z3 Compact via Sony USA. Bootloader unlocked means loading new kernels by going to developer.sony.com.
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All signs point to yes
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Yikes.
bbot3k said:
Yikes.
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It will still be rootable, though.
We can still root it, though.
Why is that a problem
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Why is that a problem
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If you're a developer, an unlocked bootloader is good as you have more tools too use.
As a consumer, if Sony stops updating after a year you have the potential to install homebrew and extend the life of your hardware.
For me, personally, it isn't a big deal. Last phone I unlocked was the HTC One X. Mainly for bloatwear, backups, and updates (I believe I had to flash GTalk to get a video calling version, but that might have been the Xperia Play). But now I can adb backup and disable apps. Google App updates now happen through the Play store so I think the biggest need for consumer unlocking is almost nil. If you keep a phone 3 years+ you may want to unlock for custom ROMs.
It's not like Sony isn't providing the option, just get the OEM model instead of the carrier model.
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Says who? The Z1s took AGES to root. I mean like 6 months...
jonshipman said:
If you're a developer, an unlocked bootloader is good as you have more tools too use.
As a consumer, if Sony stops updating after a year you have the potential to install homebrew and extend the life of your hardware.
For me, personally, it isn't a big deal. Last phone I unlocked was the HTC One X. Mainly for bloatwear, backups, and updates (I believe I had to flash GTalk to get a video calling version, but that might have been the Xperia Play). But now I can adb backup and disable apps. Google App updates now happen through the Play store so I think the biggest need for consumer unlocking is almost nil. If you keep a phone 3 years+ you may want to unlock for custom ROMs.
It's not like Sony isn't providing the option, just get the OEM model instead of the carrier model.
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GIven that it looks like Sony will also be selling an unlocked model, it's highly likely that THAT model will be more "developer oriented" and therefore bootloader-unlocked.
T-Mobile phones generally don't need or want 3rd party ROMs, because T-Mobile users like to hang onto WiFi calling. So it makes sense to lock that bootloader.
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GIven that it looks like Sony will also be selling an unlocked model, it's highly likely that THAT model will be more "developer oriented" and therefore bootloader-unlocked.
T-Mobile phones generally don't need or want 3rd party ROMs, because T-Mobile users like to hang onto WiFi calling. So it makes sense to lock that bootloader.
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In regards to the unlocked version, will ther ebe a 32 gb version? I have AT&T currently and I am not very interested in switching carriers to T-Mo (even if they provide Wi-Fi calling).
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Says who? The Z1s took AGES to root. I mean like 6 months...
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Took ages for public release. Took very little fire someone to achieve it. One of the main reasons for delay was that the Z2 was around the corner and some security mobile event. The Z3 should be getting released within a relatively close time for each country.
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In regards to the unlocked version, will ther ebe a 32 gb version? I have AT&T currently and I am not very interested in switching carriers to T-Mo (even if they provide Wi-Fi calling).
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whitepaper says D6616(t-mobile specific version) up to 32GB, everyone else up to 16GB
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
Truthfully, doesn't matter to me anymore. My Z1s showed me an Android experience I didn't want to modify, if the Z3 is the same then I'm perfectly fine with a locked bootloader. I understand why a lot of people don't like it, but for me, Sony does Android right. The ONLY reason I rooted my Z1s after the 4.4.4 update was when I decided I wanted to screen mirror to my Chromecast (which requires root since it's not enabled on the Z1s by default), and this was at least a month after the 4.4.4 update. I dunno, I just don't want to tinker anymore, and the Z1s works very very well for that. And seeing as the battery life on the Z3 is nothing short of amazing, I'll probably get it regardless of bootloader status. Or maybe I'll get the Z3 compact...
I got an email yesterday to pre register for the Z3 on TMo, unfortunately I am on VZW so it doesnt help me at all. Just thought I would let u TMo users know that its on its way to being a reality. Check ur emails.
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I got an email yesterday to pre register for the Z3 on TMo, unfortunately I am on VZW so it doesnt help me at all. Just thought I would let u TMo users know that its on its way to being a reality. Check ur emails.
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Yeah, they said a few weeks still though. Mid october is my guess.
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Feeling Happy . Good News
Below The List It Shows : The next version of Android: 5.0 Lollipop
http://www.samsung.com/fi/info/update.html#mobile
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_bring_lollipop_to_s4_note_2_and_others-news-10566.php
I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
Coming December 2015!
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I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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Was it easy to do on your AT&T S4??? Was everything working Wifi and connect to ATT Ok???
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Coming December 2015!
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Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.
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I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.
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Amen on SLOW AT&T UPDATES
Everything worked perfect first try
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Everything worked perfect first try
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You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.
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You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.
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Me as well, I ran @iB4STiD rom's for a long time then was forced into an update which locked my phone up so now I'm safestrapped for life. Really don't mind nj4 just want Lollipop. I have it on my Nexus 7 and with the update to 5.0.2 it's running smooth and quick.
Ask the important questions, man!
Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?
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Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?
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It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.
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It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.
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I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.
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I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.
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The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,
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It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,
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I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.
BehrendsTech said:
I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.
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OMG!! I supouse that.... but it is ok for me, my phone was manufactured on 11-28-14,I bought it on december 12 if you want to see the whole story look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help/bought-i9505-china-i337-bootloader-t2985230
@VladimirMan93 the answer to our pain
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That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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Or at the very least stop the store worker from updating it when you first activate it. When I bought mine she took it out of the box, turned it on and immediately accepted the update notification and installed it after it downloaded when she put the screen protector on..
@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:
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@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:
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I would have had I known that AT&T locked their bootloaders. This is the first phone that I have owned that had one, and until I tried to mess around with it I had no idea that one could lock a bootloader.
Sadly, I won't be able to get the Lollipop update unless I want my phone locked down forever because I am one of the few people that is still on the MDL firmware which can use the LOKI bootloader bypass to boot custom ROMs.
So I just picked up a refurbished Sprint v20. It is currently at zv3 so i'll be able to use Dirty Santa. My issue is do I? I know there's no going back since there isnt a factory image for Sprint.
If you've unlocked, are you happy you did so?
Very happy. but im biased since i made it...
Well, I didn't need much convincing. Thanks! Very smooth process, it's really nice to actually have TWRP on a lg phone again. Haven't had that since my LG G2.
yea it was a no brainer for me coming from a sgs7e , i hated the fact i could not do nanddroids or flash custom roms, i love my v20.
Bootloader possibly unlocked
So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
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So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
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I wouldn't hold my breath, at most they may unlock the sim, the bootloader I doubt it
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Good luck, first time I've ever heard sprint voluntarily unlock a bootloader
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Any news?
Any news?
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Any news?
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Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
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Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
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Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
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Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
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Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
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Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
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You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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If it wasn't for antirollback (all other firmware, except the h918 which has a different key so no other variant can flash it, is antirollback 0) you could, but the way it is you'd brick if you forced it on there.
Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
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There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
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What one?
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You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
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It does not have the dual cam, and removable battery like the v20. I have my reasons. Believe me . Only issue is Sprint not being able to root...supposedly. Pro_Granade kinda has my hopes up atm lol
if i went to a Verizon store tomorrow and got a Pixel 2, and removed the sim and disabled WiFi, would i still be able to unlock the bootloader and root?
there is only a $35 restocking fee, but i'm only vaguely familiar with the unlock procedure for the Pixel 2, and haven't found any recent posts about it. obviously if i learn that it is possible, i will more heavily research the procedure. i'm just trying to avoid a $35 restocking fee if at all possible.
another thing i am wondering about as of writing this is, does updating a Verizon Pixel 2 relock the bootloader and kill root? would buying the phone from Google make it update safe?
thanks for all your help!
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if i went to a Verizon store tomorrow and got a Pixel 2, and removed the sim and disabled WiFi, would i still be able to unlock the bootloader and root?
there is only a $35 restocking fee, but i'm only vaguely familiar with the unlock procedure for the Pixel 2, and haven't found any recent posts about it. obviously if i learn that it is possible, i will more heavily research the procedure. i'm just trying to avoid a $35 restocking fee if at all possible.
another thing i am wondering about as of writing this is, does updating a Verizon Pixel 2 relock the bootloader and kill root? would buying the phone from Google make it update safe?
thanks for all your help!
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If Verizon figures out you've unlocked the bootloader, they can and/or will refuse to accept it. There are threads following the Verizon version, which should have the answers your looking for.
Why even bother with Verizon at all? You've answered your own questions.
Purchase from Google, root with no worries of a relocked bootloader ever happening, and you can rest easy.
Also, 35% of $1000, is $350.
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No way in hell I would pay 1k for this phone considering it's impossible to play FPS games due to mutitouch problems I'm not happy I paid even 150 for it!
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No way in hell I would pay 1k for this phone considering it's impossible to play FPS games due to mutitouch problems I'm not happy I paid even 150 for it!
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So what phone do you recommend?
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if i went to a Verizon store tomorrow and got a Pixel 2, and removed the sim and disabled WiFi, would i still be able to unlock the bootloader and root?
there is only a $35 restocking fee, but i'm only vaguely familiar with the unlock procedure for the Pixel 2, and haven't found any recent posts about it. obviously if i learn that it is possible, i will more heavily research the procedure. i'm just trying to avoid a $35 restocking fee if at all possible.
another thing i am wondering about as of writing this is, does updating a Verizon Pixel 2 relock the bootloader and kill root? would buying the phone from Google make it update safe?
thanks for all your help!
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I don't know if it is still able to be unlocked. Odds are that as long as it is not updated past the January update, then you can unlock the bootloader. Once unlocked though, there is very little chance any update would relock it for two reasons:
1. OTA Updates fail when you're unlocked
2. If it did relock, it would wipe your phone. Verizon wouldn't want that bad PR from wiping people's without consent.
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So what phone do you recommend?
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Samsung or LG
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Samsung or LG
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Are you selling your pixel 2?
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Bighoss00 said:
No way in hell I would pay 1k for this phone considering it's impossible to play FPS games due to mutitouch problems I'm not happy I paid even 150 for it!
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Can i ask whaf you mean? I have 0 issues with multi touch iv been playing **** outa pubg
Delta wolf said:
Can i ask whaf you mean? I have 0 issues with multi touch iv been playing **** outa pubg
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No unfortunately I can not sell my pixel2 as it's my work phone under contract
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/70344455
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No way in hell I would pay 1k for this phone considering it's impossible to play FPS games due to mutitouch problems I'm not happy I paid even 150 for it!
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It's a regular pixel 2, it doesn't cost anywhere near $1k and very few people have the multi touch bug. Even if you did, this phone has a 2 year warranty, so you're covered either way.
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if i went to a Verizon store tomorrow and got a Pixel 2, and removed the sim and disabled WiFi, would i still be able to unlock the bootloader and root?
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Probably it's already been updated to the March update, so no. And even though the January (and November) firmware is still at Google's site, it's probably locked against downgrading. (Anyone with a non-unlockable bootloader want to try?)
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I don't know if it is still able to be unlocked. Odds are that as long as it is not updated past the January update, then you can unlock the bootloader. Once unlocked though, there is very little chance any update would relock it for two reasons:
1. OTA Updates fail when you're unlocked
2. If it did relock, it would wipe your phone. Verizon wouldn't want that bad PR from wiping people's without consent.
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my friend at the verizon store was willing to check the software versions on the boxes, and found one that was before OPM2.171019.016. i'm not sure what, but it was OPM1.xxxxxx.xxx. some were already OPM3.xxxxxx.xxx.
it isn't true that an unlocked bootloader = a failed OTA update, as this was the issue i had with my Pixel 1. i got it early, unlocked with depixel8, and rooted. i then disabled OTA updates, and yet somehow, one made it through. it did not relock my bootloader, but it did leave me on a software version that was not rootable, even though my bootloader was unlocked. it is my main concern. but also, i want updates, i just want them to happen on my terms and not break my device.
any thoughts?
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my friend at the verizon store was willing to check the software versions on the boxes, and found one that was before OPM2.171019.016. i'm not sure what, but it was OPM1.xxxxxx.xxx. some were already OPM3.xxxxxx.xxx.
it isn't true that an unlocked bootloader = a failed OTA update, as this was the issue i had with my Pixel 1. i got it early, unlocked with depixel8, and rooted. i then disabled OTA updates, and yet somehow, one made it through. it did not relock my bootloader, but it did leave me on a software version that was not rootable, even though my bootloader was unlocked. it is my main concern. but also, i want updates, i just want them to happen on my terms and not break my device.
any thoughts?
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I would suggest searching through the forums for your answers which have been posted numerous times. You've opened a second thread to a discussion that has been addressed in its entirety here. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/how-to/unlock-bootloader-verizon-pixel-2-t3730076
Again the question of "How do I update my phone when it is rooted/BL unlocked" has been answered over and over. Probably good to try and keep the forum clean and searchable for everyone. That's the preferred method.
@MikeChannon Can you please lock this thread before it goes into the wild? Duplicate post
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
The problem for me is that even though I could unlock my device now, the pull of users and developers to this device is going to plummet to zero on xda , there won't be any (or very few) ROM's, adopters will avoid the device... It's a horrible move from huawei who have a sponsor partnership with xda?? Xda have said they're going to fight it but my guess is huawei may look at their wallet rather than their hearts and stick to their guns.
By all accounts it's "to provide a better service". ???
I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
If things don't change in a week I'm sending this wonderful opportunity phone back.
Never again
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Edit: all that being said, I like this phone too much, even runs ppsspp and dolphin the same as the onelus 5 did, I've unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted and now it's running perfectly.
Going to give it a chance.
dladz said:
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
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I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
Going to give it a chance.
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In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
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Avoid the galaxy unless you like baggage and more rules, if I was to buy another phone it would be the HTC 12, no doubt about it.
Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
Phones a beast, I personally think Huawei will decide against their decision, by all accounts HTC did the same and look what happened to them
Currently looking at debranding from the L09 to the L29 as updates are more timely. Either that or wait for some ROMs to drop.
I'm keeping it now, it's swayed me.
Although I'd I could get the HTC I'd do it in a heartbeat, epic development on XDA.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
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Since the phone is treble enabled we can use GSI. So theres no "real" need to have an active development community dedicated for this phone only.
dladz said:
Avoid the galaxy unless you like baggage and more rules, if I was to buy another phone it would be the HTC 12, no doubt about it.
Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
Phones a beast, I personally think Huawei will decide against their decision, by all accounts HTC did the same and look what happened to them
Currently looking at debranding from the L09 to the L29 as updates are more timely. Either that or wait for some ROMs to drop.
I'm keeping it now, it's swayed me.
Although I'd I could get the HTC I'd do it in a heartbeat, epic development on XDA.
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You don't necessarily need to convert from L09 to L29 to get faster updates, you just need to change region from 782 to 432. The L09 & L29 firmwares are interchangeable and are released together but it's UK specific updates that are lagging behind.
Saying that, I don't think there's a way to convert to 432 without being converted to L29 in the process anyway lol
the unlock page is back, just used it... don't tgink will last for long... make sure to be logged with your huawei account
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
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Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
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Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
Thinking of getting unlock code... Does it end warranty? And how do I get product ID, that #*#*1357946*#*# thing did not work. Yes, did try right code, one i wrote here might not be remembered correctly?
Propulsion said:
Thinking of getting unlock code... Does it end warranty?
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When used yes.
Propulsion said:
And how do I get product ID, that #*#*1357946*#*# thing did not work. Yes, did try right code, one i wrote here might not be remembered correctly
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You just got the *'s and #'s the wrong way around, it should be:
*#*#1357946#*#*
kaiowas82 said:
the unlock page is back, just used it... don't tgink will last for long... make sure to be logged with your huawei account
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
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I logged in first time tbh on the first day I got the phone lucky I guess.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
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The Italian one, starts with a p but they should all be ok.
danifilth4king said:
You don't necessarily need to convert from L09 to L29 to get faster updates, you just need to change region from 782 to 432. The L09 & L29 firmwares are interchangeable and are released together but it's UK specific updates that are lagging behind.
Saying that, I don't think there's a way to convert to 432 without being converted to L29 in the process anyway lol
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Nah me neither, think it's L29 or nothing.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
When used yes.
You just got the *'s and #'s the wrong way around, it should be:
*#*#1357946#*#*
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Like i said, when I tried to get product ID the code was certainly right. To that message i took it out of memory, and did not remember it right. Funny, i can get for example imei code with right "dialer code" but not that product code. How to proceed? Would like to get unlock code, to be on safe side if I some day (probably sooner than later) want to use it.
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Like i said, when I tried to get product ID the code was certainly right. To that message i took it out of memory, and did not remember it right. Funny, i can get for example imei code with right "dialer code" but not that product code. How to proceed? Would like to get unlock code, to be on safe side if I some day (probably sooner than later) want to use it.
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Got it to work, just needed to make phones original dialer default dialer... And, well, knowing me, I'm just moments away from unlocking bootloader and rooting
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
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I used the one packaged with the all in one tool in one of these threads, its not the official one.
This thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...l-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t3779416/page9
dladz said:
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
The problem for me is that even though I could unlock my device now, the pull of users and developers to this device is going to plummet to zero on xda , there won't be any (or very few) ROM's, adopters will avoid the device... It's a horrible move from huawei who have a sponsor partnership with xda?? Xda have said they're going to fight it but my guess is huawei may look at their wallet rather than their hearts and stick to their guns.
By all accounts it's "to provide a better service". ???
I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
If things don't change in a week I'm sending this wonderful opportunity phone back.
Never again
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Edit: all that being said, I like this phone too much, even runs ppsspp and dolphin the same as the onelus 5 did, I've unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted and now it's running perfectly.
Going to give it a chance.
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Keep hold of the bootloader unlock code you got as if they go ahead with removing the service, they're likely to release updates in the future that will relock unlocked bootloaders on install. You should be able to re-unlock with the same code but it's a pain as an update won't wipe data but then having to re-unlock will ?
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Keep hold of the bootloader unlock code you got as if they go ahead with removing the service, they're likely to release updates in the future that will relock unlocked bootloaders on install. You should be able to re-unlock with the same code but it's a pain as an update won't wipe data but then having to re-unlock will ?
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Yea I've got it pal, all good. Triple back up.
Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked now, without unlock code of Huawei??
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Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked now, without unlock code of Huawei??
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There's another site that does them.
Can't recall the name.
Just ordered the P20 Pro today after I upgraded my partners one yesterday to the P20. Its looks a fantastic phone so I had to go one better and get the pro. I got the unlock code for hers and will request mine tomorrow. Is there any need to use the unlock code? I don't plan on hoping for a better ROM as the stock one looks pretty reasonable to me.
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Just ordered the P20 Pro today after I upgraded my partners one yesterday to the P20. Its looks a fantastic phone so I had to go one better and get the pro. I got the unlock code for hers and will request mine tomorrow. Is there any need to use the unlock code? I don't plan on hoping for a better ROM as the stock one looks pretty reasonable to me.
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It is but rooting etc has its benefits, you've only got to go on a few threads here to see that.
Plus who knows what the future holds plus treble is always an option
Anyone else here on C782 in the United Kingdom and still on 110 while everyone else is either on 120 or 128.
This needs to be improved by huawei as the P20 Pro has been a success within the United Kingdom
yep.. i have the l29 from three and on 110
just thinking to rebrand because of this
I read somewhere that unfortunately the networks need to approve the updates before they're pushed out as well which obviously adds more to the process. It's so ridiculous that Huawei chose to work this way with the UK model.
In the same boat myself, thinking of debranding.
Not totally sure if after de-branding you'll need another code to unlock again if the bootloader locks down.
If that's the case and they stop the codes then you'll end up without the ability to unlock the phone again.
dladz said:
In the same boat myself, thinking of debranding.
Not totally sure if after de-branding you'll need another code to unlock again if the bootloader locks down.
If that's the case and they stop the codes then you'll end up without the ability to unlock the phone again.
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Not if you debrand with the XDA method as it doesn't affect the bootloader code
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Not if you debrand with the XDA method as it doesn't affect the bootloader code
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You sure? That's really good to know.
As that's the method i'm going to be using.
cheers pal.
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You sure? That's really good to know.
As that's the method i'm going to be using.
cheers pal.
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Its just stupid. I am on a sim free version and from the days of HTC a standard WWE firmware was allocation to the whole of Europe.
Surely something as simple as this cannot be that difficult to implement
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Its just stupid. I am on a sim free version and from the days of HTC a standard WWE firmware was allocation to the whole of Europe.
Surely something as simple as this cannot be that difficult to implement
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Lol mate I'm learning for the first time myself, Huawei aren't doing themselves any favours.
This will be my last Huawei.
I've just successfully rebranded to c432. Installig 128 ota right now, bootloader still unlocked, i believe.
I've used this guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...de-how-to-root-debrand-remove-retail-t3788326
I just need to root again
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I've just successfully rebranded to c432. Installig 128 ota right now, bootloader still unlocked, i believe.
I've used this guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...de-how-to-root-debrand-remove-retail-t3788326
I just need to root again
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Nice one mate, i'm going to do it this weekend.
It looks like I have twrp AND stock recovery installed at the same time.....I can boot both. Does that means i will still be able to get OTAs?
It's my first Huawei....
Have any of the UK network branded devices been updated to 128 yet?
......still waiting patiently on my unbranded. I thought it would recieve updates near the front of the queue
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I'm on the C636 model and also having firmware updates withheld..
.. Whats the consensus on which model to debrand to?
Which models correspond to which regions and which are more likely to get updates or other benefits?
Also.. Does this effect the LTE frequencies used or VoLTE and WiFi calling that are sometimes specific to particular regions?
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yep.. i have the l29 from three and on 110
just thinking to rebrand because of this
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you all are good.. im in Ireland three network and my p20 pro is stuck on 103.version :crying::crying::crying:
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Have any of the UK network branded devices been updated to 128 yet?
......still waiting patiently on my unbranded. I thought it would recieve updates near the front of the queue
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No not as far as I'm aware, I'm on 110, the EU model is getting preference. ..can't say I like Huawei's methods.
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No not as far as I'm aware, I'm on 110, the EU model is getting preference. ..can't say I like Huawei's methods.
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Yea. Personally hating Huawei's methods here. A fantastic device but the branding on first SIM and awful update process means mine is being sold. Pixel 2 XL all the way for me now.
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Yea. Personally hating Huawei's methods here. A fantastic device but the branding on first SIM and awful update process means mine is being sold. Pixel 2 XL all the way for me now.
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Have to agree, massive mistake moving from the OnePlus.
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WhiteHartMart said:
Yea. Personally hating Huawei's methods here. A fantastic device but the branding on first SIM and awful update process means mine is being sold. Pixel 2 XL all the way for me now.
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Oooh I don't think I'd get the pixel 2 mate.
Why not debrand your p20 and give it a chance, better things are coming im certain of that, I mean I hop between devices usually once a year or more because I get bored so fast so I know what you mean but I think it'd be too soon to commit to another phone. Unless you can cover the entire cost of the device.
People in the US may buy it, I'd grab an unlock code just in case too :good:
If your hearts set on a pixel, wait for the three, you'll hate having the 2 the second you see their new one. There's quite a difference between them.
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Oooh I don't think I'd get the pixel 2 mate.
Why not debrand your p20 and give it a chance, better things are coming im certain of that, I mean I hop between devices usually once a year or more because I get bored so fast so I know what you mean but I think it'd be too soon to commit to another phone. Unless you can cover the entire cost of the device.
People in the US may buy it, I'd grab an unlock code just in case too :good:
If your hearts set on a pixel, wait for the three, you'll hate having the 2 the second you see their new one. There's quite a difference between them.
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Too late lol.
In fairness I've been running the two phones side by side for a few weeks before deciding which to keep. We know the result already don't we lol
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Too late lol.
In fairness I've been running the two phones side by side for a few weeks before deciding which to keep. We know the result already don't we lol
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Haha fair enough, I know the 2XL isn't a bad device, not even close, but I think you'll feel down when you see the 3XL, it does look like a monster.