Does 4G have a more extended range than 3G? - General Questions and Answers

Hello,
I was wondering if 4G antennas have a bigger range than 3G antennas. I will be moving to a more remote location and I will depend on the signal from a nearby town.
I was wondering if I should buy a 4G dongle for my mobile internet or just stick with my phone, which has H+. I know there is a signal there, but I don't know which type (3G or 4G). Considering the 4G dongles are way more expensive, I wouldn't like to invest in one and have a 3G signal. I also can't test the signal because I don't have a 4G phone.
So let's assume the antennas are in the same place, one is with 3G technology and one is with 4G and I am pretty far away (let's say 3/5 max bars of signal). From which antenna would I have a faster internet connection?

keeekeeess said:
Hello,
I was wondering if 4G antennas have a bigger range than 3G antennas. I will be moving to a more remote location and I will depend on the signal from a nearby town.
I was wondering if I should buy a 4G dongle for my mobile internet or just stick with my phone, which has H+. I know there is a signal there, but I don't know which type (3G or 4G). Considering the 4G dongles are way more expensive, I wouldn't like to invest in one and have a 3G signal. I also can't test the signal because I don't have a 4G phone.
So let's assume the antennas are in the same place, one is with 3G technology and one is with 4G and I am pretty far away (let's say 3/5 max bars of signal). From which antenna would I have a faster internet connection?
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Well 4g is not available everywhere. It depends on what carrier u have and where u are. But from what I noticed is 4g is not as strong as 3g. I get 4g at home but if I go in my basement or in the woods I only get 3g. It's very picky but if you get 4g you won't regret it, even if you don't get it everywhere.

4G is open to certain areas. The main areas I would say is the city. 3G range is allot better as its universal, although 4G is faster, 3G is good.
I can't say we can compare these two networks as 4G isn't universal and it currently isn't available everywhere.

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UMTS, HSDPA, GSM Repeater? For a better Signal

Hey, I am looking for a little GSM Repeater, to get a better HSDPA Signal in my house with my Touch Diamond.
Does this already exists?
I'm not to fussy about HSDPA as I have Wi-fi but just being able to get a normal phone signal would be great, I'm sure I read somewhere about one which connects to home telephone line to get a better signal somehow. Any ideas would be great
Damian
I found a lot of antennas to get a much better signal... BUT it is made for cars... so for a short distance between the antenna and the phone.
And most of them are cable attached.....
I saw some antennas for houses, but they are too expensiv and made for a whole house and not only one room...

(Q) Skyrocket 3G Compatibility.

I know this is a question, but it's also the only Skyrocket forum. Sorry...
Does the Skyrocket get straight 3G reception? The AT&T Vivid does not. H+ and above work great, but in straight "H" areas the Vivid reverts to edge. I'm considering returning the Vivid and getting a Skyrocket because of this. Also, how's the battery life on the Skyrocket? The Vivid's is abysmal.
Thanks!!
Both the Vivid and Skyrocket work on 2G, 3G and LTE.
When the indicator says 4G without the LTE under it you are on 3G/UMTS/H/H+ whatever...
If you lose the 4G then you are on 2G/GSM/EDGE.
The LTE indicator only works for data. When you make a voice call the LTE will go away because the Ue falls back to 3G or even 2G if necessary. You can still talk and surf at the same time, but it will be at 2G or 3G speeds depending on where you fallback.
Thanks for the reply!
Unfortunately, that's not the way my Vivid is working. I have confirmed that my Vivid drops to Edge in several areas that my HD2 retains 3G. Plenty of bars, so good signal. It's just that the Vivid doesn't seem to stay on 3G in less than H+ areas. Lots of people reporting the same issue.
As far as talking and surfing simultaneously on edge/2G: Maybe it's different in your area, but getting an "E" ALWAYS coincides with failure to surf and talk and the same time here. I do believe you need 3G to do that.
What I'm looking for is a first hand report from a Skyrocket user about 3G reception in less than an H+ area.
Thanks!
Nakel said:
Thanks for the reply!
Unfortunately, that's not the way my Vivid is working. I have confirmed that my Vivid drops to Edge in several areas that my HD2 retains 3G. Plenty of bars, so good signal. It's just that the Vivid doesn't seem to stay on 3G in less than H+ areas. Lots of people reporting the same issue.
As far as talking and surfing simultaneously on edge/2G: Maybe it's different in your area, but getting an "E" ALWAYS coincides with failure to surf and talk and the same time here. I do believe you need 3G to do that.
What I'm looking for is a first hand report from a Skyrocket user about 3G reception in less than an H+ area.
Thanks!
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At the basement of our office for supplies, I revert to 4G on my Skyrocket. Once I go upstairs, LTE comes back. I can confirm making a phone call and surfing the web in the basement on pure 4G (3G+).
truciet said:
At the basement of our office for supplies, I revert to 4G on my Skyrocket. Once I go upstairs, LTE comes back. I can confirm making a phone call and surfing the web in the basement on pure 4G (3G+).
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Thanks! My Vivid works great on 4G too. My problem is that it drops to Edge in areas where my HD2 stays on 3G. I'm not sure why; some people are reporting the Vivid doesn't recieve pure 3G. I have no idea what--if any--the difference is between 3G and 3G+.
How's the battery lfe on your Skyrocket?
Yeah, my bad...you can't talk and surf at the same time on 2G/EDGE.
And sadly I have great coverage at my house. And I have not had my Samsung long enough to compare it to the Vivid for reception or battery life. But when you fire up these big screens and start hitting the LTE juice it can really drop.
I am not sure what people are saying about "pure 3G". All the H/H+ is just for data. I only know of 1 flavor of 3G that supports voice calls.

[Q] Why do phones fall back to 3G?

If i understand LTE and radio stuff, 700Mhz is the lowest band used by verizon for its LTE service. 1x CDMA and EV-DO use higher bands. LTE should therefore have the best penetration into buildings and such. And if you have a 4G phone, it naturally attempts to prefer 4G LTE when possible.
So why is it that my phone is on 3G most of the time? Why would a 3G signal be easier for my phone to hang onto than 4G, when the band used for 4G travels better? Shouldnt it be falling up instead? Furthermore, why is it that when things are REALLY bad it can hang onto a "2G" signal (showing a 1X icon) since that uses even less penetrating frequencies?
The only thing I can think about is tower density and somehow verizon allocating more of its available spectrum to serve older networks. If thats the case then does anyone know if they will ever get with it and shutdown the older networks so that those of us with modern phones can stay on 4G all the time?
Yes I know LTE drains battery, but searching for signals and switching up and down is even worse!
cmdrfrog said:
If i understand LTE and radio stuff, 700Mhz is the lowest band used by verizon for its LTE service. 1x CDMA and EV-DO use higher bands. LTE should therefore have the best penetration into buildings and such. And if you have a 4G phone, it naturally attempts to prefer 4G LTE when possible.
So why is it that my phone is on 3G most of the time? Why would a 3G signal be easier for my phone to hang onto than 4G, when the band used for 4G travels better? Shouldnt it be falling up instead? Furthermore, why is it that when things are REALLY bad it can hang onto a "2G" signal (showing a 1X icon) since that uses even less penetrating frequencies?
The only thing I can think about is tower density and somehow verizon allocating more of its available spectrum to serve older networks. If thats the case then does anyone know if they will ever get with it and shutdown the older networks so that those of us with modern phones can stay on 4G all the time?
Yes I know LTE drains battery, but searching for signals and switching up and down is even worse!
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Essentially, the frequency penetration is different no matter where you go based on a whole host of factors ranging from, building type (Materials used to construct the building), weather, interference from other radio devices and electronic equipment. Simply put a multitude of factors (A lot of which are beyond your control unfortunately) lead to some spots having great 4G LTE coverage and a spot that's a foot away having "2G" (1x). These articles might be of interest to you and answer some of your questions: Radio frequency, Frequency bandwidth, and Bandwidth efficiency. Hope this helps .

[Q] Boost 4G Phone Signal?

Is there a way to boost your 4G signal? At work, web pages seldom load because my signal drops to a pitifully weak 3G strength.
Is there a way around this?
I have the GS3.
If you're at work then use Wi-Fi ... Or get a cell-tower built inside your office.
It is completely dependent on the coverage of the signal. If you do not have good coverage, there is not much you can do about it.

[Q]Signal repeater/booster question/opinion

Hello,
My girlfriend and I are on Koodo network (a Telus MVNO) and we have issue with signal reception in our house. Both phones were getting good signal with others carriers (Rogers and Videotron). According to the coverage map at the Koodo store, we should get strong LTE/HSPA signal in our neighborhood, which is the case, but unfortunately when we are inside our house, the signal drop to -110dBm (0-1 bar) and even no signal at all in some areas of the house. We get descent signal reception right outside our house (around -80dBm 3-4 bars).
What I would like to do is to take that signal from the outside and bring it inside the house so we can use our cell phones at home and get rid of our land line. I need your help to determine which repeater/booster I should use. We don't really care having LTE data inside the house because we already have high-speed internet trough a wifi router, only being able to make/receive calls would be fine.
I'm looking for something priced below 200$-250$. I can do the installation myself without any problem (i.e installing an antenna on the roof if required). I found that one: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8950334&CatId=4977
not sure if it suited for our needs. Afaik, Koodo use 800/1900 MHz for HSPA and 1700/2100 for LTE
Any suggestions/personal experience/advices would be appreciated. Changing carrier is not an option atm.
Yep,just install a booster,it'll help.
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