Hey, as of today I bought the Lenovo A880, I know this is an A850 forum but there doesn't seem to be any A880 forums. I looked at the specs and there are little differences between the two phone, same OS, processor etc. But different GPU (Mali-400), 8GB storage etc.
This is my first time buying a phone from China, or even outside of my home country (Ireland), but may I ask is there anything I need to do to the phone in order for it to work in the European market or even in Ireland?
I'd love some decent advice as I said, I'm a noob at this!
Thank you
MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
Hey, as of today I bought the Lenovo A880, I know this is an A850 forum but there doesn't seem to be any A880 forums. I looked at the specs and there are little differences between the two phone, same OS, processor etc. But different GPU (Mali-400), 8GB storage etc.
This is my first time buying a phone from China, or even outside of my home country (Ireland), but may I ask is there anything I need to do to the phone in order for it to work in the European market or even in Ireland?
I'd love some decent advice as I said, I'm a noob at this!
Thank you
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Most shops sent the device ready for use (inside Europe). There are some people saying that they have signal problems (in USA for ex.) but generaly i think you will not have any problems
If the phone does not have a playstore, rooted and install it or flash it with a pre-rooted rom... most times all these are by default.
GreatApo said:
Most shops sent the device ready for use (inside Europe). There are some people saying that they have signal problems (in USA for ex.) but generaly i think you will not have any problems
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This kinda has me confused, the phone is made for the Chinese market but I can use it in Ireland as if I walked to my local phone shop and bought any phone? Am I getting this much right?
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If the phone does not have a playstore, rooted and install it or flash it with a pre-rooted rom... most times all these are by default.
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Would you mind explaining this to me? I'm well used to working with computers, this will be the first time I having done anything technical with phones, I just generally used them for calls, texts and social media.
MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
This kinda has me confused, the phone is made for the Chinese market but I can use it in Ireland as if I walked to my local phone shop and bought any phone? Am I getting this much right?
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Yes, most times it is like getting the phone from your nead store.
ZTE are chinese phones but you can go out and buy one from a near store. On the other hand, Lenovo has not expand its phone devices in europe, so there may not be your language in the phone (but good devs have cooked the officials ROMs so these things are available).
An other issue is when the phone is "locked" and this means that is ment to be for only specific companies (ex Vodafone) but most phones are unlocked
MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
Would you mind explaining this to me? I'm well used to working with computers, this will be the first time I having done anything technical with phones, I just generally used them for calls, texts and social media.
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Root means gaining administrator access over your phone. Normally, when you buy a phone you are a user not an administrator. When we talk about android, root access is having administrators rights, on iPhone it is called jailbreak (also on playstation 3 or PSP ). Why to gain access? Then you will have the full control of your phone, which for a normal android user it is not so usefull BUT since you have an XDA account your are not a normal user
The Google Play is the largest app store on androids (most devices have it as a default) but if you do not have it you need root access to install it. Then you can download apps easily from there
Flash means sth like formating/changing the operation system (ex. windows) of your phone. There are ROMs (phone firmwares) made by some developers that may be better than the one you may have. Example: you may be able to move apps to SDcard, the google play will be installed and the phone will be rooted. Most chinese stores install such ROMs before they sent the phone to you
The difference with the PCs is that each ROM is specified for each phone (drivers issues). So you can't just grap a ROM from a850 and put it in a880. The flashing process is also defferent from phone to phone (most times between companies). Ex: if you want to flash a sony phone you do not use the same program you use for a MTK device (like Lenovo's), and yes you flash your phone while you have it connected with your computer.
I wrote you some general info, you can google anything for more details. I hope you got the general idea
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Yes, most times it is like getting the phone from your nead store.
ZTE are chinese phones but you can go out and buy one from a near store. On the other hand, Lenovo has not expand its phone devices in europe, so there may not be your language in the phone (but good devs have cooked the officials ROMs so these things are available).
An other issue is when the phone is "locked" and this means that is ment to be for only specific companies (ex Vodafone) but most phones are unlocked
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Gotchya, I definitely made sure that the phone was unlocked before I actually bought it, I just can't get over the price difference between Chinese phone companies and International phone companies, for the A880 I paid in the region of €100-€150 I've done a bit of research and what not on it and it's a tad more powerful than the Samsung Galaxy S3 which would cost someone €600-€700
GreatApo said:
Root means gaining administrator access over your phone. Normally, when you buy a phone you are a user not an administrator. When we talk about android, root access is having administrators rights, on iPhone it is called jailbreak (also on playstation 3 or PSP ). Why to gain access? Then you will have the full control of your phone, which for a normal android user it is not so usefull BUT since you have an XDA account your are not a normal user
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Aha! :highfive: I know what you're talking about now, the word 'root' was throwing me off
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Flash means sth like formating/changing the operation system (ex. windows) of your phone. There are ROMs (phone firmwares) made by some developers that may be better than the one you may have. Example: you may be able to move apps to SDcard, the google play will be installed and the phone will be rooted. Most chinese stores install such ROMs before they sent the phone to you
The difference with the PCs is that each ROM is specified for each phone (drivers issues). So you can't just grap a ROM from a850 and put it in a880. The flashing process is also defferent from phone to phone (most times between companies). Ex: if you want to flash a sony phone you do not use the same program you use for a MTK device (like Lenovo's), and yes you flash your phone while you have it connected with your computer.
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I have a slight idea of it now, I nearly **** myself earlier because I thought I made a HUGE mistake aha! I'll definitely look into it more, thanks for the replies, really appreciated. I'll definitely let you know how I get on and how well the phone works, if you are interested
MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
Gotchya, I definitely made sure that the phone was unlocked before I actually bought it, I just can't get over the price difference between Chinese phone companies and International phone companies, for the A880 I paid in the region of €100-€150 I've done a bit of research and what not on it and it's a tad more powerful than the Samsung Galaxy S3 which would cost someone €600-€700
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Price differences are true. Lenovo a850 (my phone) costs 120€ from china and 240€ in Greece. This is because of the taxies, some stores order these phones (since lenovo has not open its phones in Europe) so there are more taxies.
On the other hand, there are some good choises made by Lenovo to hit the market with a lower cost. Your screen is not the same with S3, it may have twice the pixels your phone has, with a better screen quality. Is this so important? For me, no, but it is for sure more expencive.
The phone's camera most times is lower, and most people (people that do not know anything of computers) search for a new phone based on the camera and the logo on the phone, plus it is more expencive to have a better camera. Less RAM is an other feature of Lenovo phones, based to other devieces you can compare them...
From my stand point, you take what you pay. The trick is to take the phone from China, its half the price. Since i want to have a fast phone, i am ok with a lower camera, i do not care. About the screen, MY TV IS FULL HD, why the hell should my phone also be??? This is far too much...
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On the other hand, there are some good choises made by Lenovo to hit the market with a lower cost. Your screen is not the same with S3, it may have twice the pixels your phone has, with a better screen quality. Is this so important? For me, no, but it is for sure more expencive.
The phone's camera most times is lower, and most people (people that do not know anything of computers) search for a new phone based on the camera and the logo on the phone, plus it is more expencive to have a better camera.
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I've always had an under-powered phone compared to family and friends, and being into computer I'd much rather have processing power, RAM and the likes. The screen on the A880 will be probably be the best screen I ever had as well as the camera. The most pixels I ever had is probably 2.5 haha
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Less RAM is an other feature of Lenovo phones, based to other devieces you can compare them...
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Really? The A880 has 1GB of RAM I thought that was good since the bog standard desktops at work have 2GB of RAM
GreatApo said:
From my stand point, you take what you pay. The trick is to take the phone from China, its half the price. Since i want to have a fast phone, i am ok with a lower camera, i do not care. About the screen, MY TV IS FULL HD, why the hell should my phone also be??? This is far too much...
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Yeah and you could buy a half decent camera for €50/60 and still save a couple of hundred Euro!
I just found out that the phone comes already rooted with Google Play installed, sweet!
MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
Really? The A880 has 1GB of RAM I thought that was good since the bog standard desktops at work have 2GB of RAM
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Lenovo A850 is a cheap edition of Samsung Note 2 (no in the appearance). Note 2 has 2 GB of ram... i do not know if is is too much but i know 1GB is good enough for me
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I just found out that the phone comes already rooted with Google Play installed, sweet!
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I told you, most sellers take care of such things.
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Hello,
So I accidentally dropped my Lenovo IdeaTab S2110A tablet today and the screen just shattered. So, I am on the market for a new tablet, and I need help finding the right one. As far as "need" goes, I will mostly use it for reading. So any tablet really should do. However, I need help deciding based on these factors:
Has to be running Android L or is Android L ready.
Quick to receive updates/upgrades from its manufacturer. My Lenovo was came with Android 4.0, and although it was 4.1 ready, that never happened. So I need a tablet from a manufacturer that keeps up with providing updates/upgrades.
It has to be one that captures developers interests. I am a flashing junkie, so I need one that I can get it rooted and actively flash new roms. If it is not for need, I will flash a rom just for the sake of it. I never flashed a rom with my Lenovo.
Not a kindle
I can do the research on the technical aspect of it on my own. I am crazy about speed, so I do not want my apps taking a long time to load, and I want it to allow MicroSD Card. A USB and HDMI port would be great, but not necessary.
I am thinking that a Galaxy or Nexus would be my best shot, but I am not entirely sure on the developer's interest part.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
what is your budget ? here i have some website which are better ,
i often bought some electronic devices online from them ,most of them
are china brand ,with good price and well-quality .but one shortcomings
it is a little long to get their parcels ,like two weeks .not matter what
i list them belowed ,you can choose them by yourself:
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Android-Tablet-c-1759.html
http://www.kingsbuying.com/tablet-pc/android-tablets.html
http://www.dx.com/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aag/main?i...=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=&seller=A1CHDTJ9IVXV2B
Albertoonline said:
what is your budget ? here i have some website which are better ,
i often bought some electronic devices online from them ,most of them
are china brand ,with good price and well-quality .but one shortcomings
it is a little long to get their parcels ,like two weeks .not matter what
i list them belowed ,you can choose them by yourself:
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Android-Tablet-c-1759.html
http://www.kingsbuying.com/tablet-pc/android-tablets.html
http://www.dx.com/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aag/main?i...=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=&seller=A1CHDTJ9IVXV2B
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Budget is not a factor.
These are some very cool sites. My only hesitation with a generic brand is it may not get any development.
Aloupha said:
Budget is not a factor.
These are some very cool sites. My only hesitation with a generic brand is it may not get any development.
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if you want to buy famous brand ,samsung and iphone will be
top list .
Aloupha said:
Hello,
So I accidentally dropped my Lenovo IdeaTab S2110A tablet today and the screen just shattered. So, I am on the market for a new tablet, and I need help finding the right one. As far as "need" goes, I will mostly use it for reading. So any tablet really should do. However, I need help deciding based on these factors:
Has to be running Android L or is Android L ready.
Quick to receive updates/upgrades from its manufacturer. My Lenovo was came with Android 4.0, and although it was 4.1 ready, that never happened. So I need a tablet from a manufacturer that keeps up with providing updates/upgrades.
It has to be one that captures developers interests. I am a flashing junkie, so I need one that I can get it rooted and actively flash new roms. If it is not for need, I will flash a rom just for the sake of it. I never flashed a rom with my Lenovo.
Not a kindle
I can do the research on the technical aspect of it on my own. I am crazy about speed, so I do not want my apps taking a long time to load, and I want it to allow MicroSD Card. A USB and HDMI port would be great, but not necessary.
I am thinking that a Galaxy or Nexus would be my best shot, but I am not entirely sure on the developer's interest part.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
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I am currently using 2 phones (both with Custom ROMs) and on my SGSII the buttons start to not working so well,...doesn't matter
I looked a long time for a new phone which got Dual SIM, cuz I have one phone for calling and writing to people and the other one just for Whatsapp and some apps.
Well after a long search I finally found this phone: Phicomm Passion (details below)
http://www.phicomm.com/eu/products_details.html?id=34
Recently a review came up (German) where it turned out that the software is still quite buggy n laggy and needs to be reprogrammed for best function.
I looked here at XDA about this phone but I found absolutely nothing ?
Cuz I don't know when Phicomm is going to release another big updates that fixes the rest of the bugs, so I thought about a Custom ROM for this phone, but still nothing unfortunately.
It got 2GB RAM, an Octa Core CPU, a Full-HD Display... that should be a rocket with these specs compared to my older 2 phones (Xperia S and SGS II)
If someone knows more or can led me to the right direction, that would be great.
In a month or so my mother is about to change carrier and I'll give her my old SGS II, when this happens I need a new (Dual SIM) phone
I already made a post on What phone to buy next:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59753407#post59753407
But I don't know where to ask exactly ?
Hi,
Thanks for using XDA Assist Well if Dual Sim is your preference that device is good to go but this device has NIL development on XDA hence if you need custom rom's than this device is not your choice
jackeagle said:
Hi,
Thanks for using XDA Assist Well if Dual Sim is your preference that device is good to go but this device has NIL development on XDA hence if you need custom rom's than this device is not your choice
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What does NIL mean ? Nothing ?
Seems like I'm gonna buy this phone cuz it's cheap now and when my mother is changing carrier I'll use it as my new main phone, til then a new update should be available.
If there's no Custom ROM, bad luck for me but it's the perfect phone for me
I like it cuz it's shaped like a brick and it's 5" big
MeisterManuel23 said:
What does NIL mean ? Nothing ?
Seems like I'm gonna buy this phone cuz it's cheap now and when my mother is changing carrier I'll use it as my new main phone, til then a new update should be available.
If there's no Custom ROM, bad luck for me but it's the perfect phone for me
I like it cuz it's shaped like a brick and it's 5" big
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Then better go with your selected device NIL means no custom development on that device
1st post in this forum!
Are you buying?, if so, what are you replacing?. I haven't been visiting XDA in a while, I used to visit everyday, and tinker regularly. I'm replacing a Tmo Note 3, yes unlocked , rooted and ROM'd. I was just waiting for the right one I guess.
Camera and removable battery were important to me. I wish this had 4GB RAM, but I think it will be fine.
As far as unlockable bootloader's , I've never owned a Blu ( supposedly rebranded Gionee), but some research looks like they have fastboot, and have been unlocked in the past. I'm hoping this remains to be true.
I hope to see this place bustling, with the pricepoint of the device , there should be plenty of involvement.
Ciao!:highfive:
Thinking about it.... This versus Moto X pure versus OP2
This phone has seriously peaked my interest. My HTC One M8 has been on the fritz lately. The power button has become super sensitive and I find it turns itself on and off at times, thinking the button is pressed when it isn't :/
Im looking to get something soon and this phone looks like a steal for what we get.
I really dig this phone. I don't know about the lack of an app tray. is there much dev support for this phone? just wondering if I get it will I be stuck with basically an iphone layout lol
I currently have a Note 4 Att (locked bootloader) and am sick of no root. So if this phone gets rooted and has a good dev community bringing out ROMs, count me in.
Root shouldn't be an issue.
sigtau2001 said:
I really dig this phone. I don't know about the lack of an app tray. is there much dev support for this phone? just wondering if I get it will I be stuck with basically an iphone layout lol
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Use Google Now launcher... how do people like you even find XDA Forums when you dont even know to switch the launcher...
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That new Helio X10 processor might actually get some good support. Plus its a Gionee under the skin so people have had it for about a month in China and India.
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Use Google Now launcher... how do people like you even find XDA Forums when you dont even know to switch the launcher...
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That new Helio X10 processor might actually get some good support. Plus its a Gionee under the skin so people have had it for about a month in China and India.
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I searched assh*le and it brought up Moynia and I thought I would come on here and irritate you. Maybe I missed something, I thought this thread was talking about developer support. I assume you started somewhere and didn't just wake up knowing everything.
Im stuck between this and moto x pure... IDK WHAT 2 DO!!!
Lenn0x I've had the first 2 moto xs. While they are sweet phones I don't really see that much difference between 2014 and 2015. I like new and/or different features in my phones.
Definitely going to give this a look. I have a Huawei Mate2, but it appears Huawei wants to go all "samsung" on their pricing with
their new models. Soon as it is in the wild, and a few reviews come back, may have to give this one a spin.
If this is just a rebranded Gionee Elife E8, I wonder if we will be able to have a joint Dev community where we can use roms for both. If it's the same internal, theirs says Gionee and ours say Blu outside, then I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I was looking to replace my Oneplus One. Had an invite for the 2 but decided to pass since the specs aren't really that much better. The Pure XL releases on my birthday so thought I'd give it a try.
Warning
*EDIT*- I discovered just now that this forum is for a different phone than the one that I owned, and the photos and specs that are provided are for the wrong phone. So, this information is not applicable to the device that will be released in September of 2015. However, it is still valuable information as the actual Pure XL will be using the same Amigo UI that the Life Pure XL did, and could very possibly have the same crippling bugs that the last version did. Or not. I will keep this here as a cautionary tale for all.
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I owned this phone between June of 2014 and April of 2015, and I had quite the experience with it. Yes, the specs look fantastic, just as good as a OnePlus One or a Galaxy Note 3. However, the software and lack of support from the manufacturer are what will kill your experience with this phone.
This device is the Gionee Elife E7 rebranded for sale in North America. I would suggest looking at the forum for that device in depth before deciding to commit to this phone. I have not checked on it in a while, but the phone will likely ship with Jellybean (4.2.2) and you will have to go through many hoops in order to possibly get a hacked, Taiwanese version of KitKat. If you are interested in Lollipop, I would forget this phone entirely. The stock ROM on this phone is a messy pile of Indian and Chinese Engrish that will leave you extremely frustrated. There are crippling bugs such as my very favorite: not being able to change the soft keyboard. Whatever you choose initially, it will be stuck that way unless you factory reset the phone. Seriously. You will similarly be able to change the default home screen, once and once only. The fancy camera sounds great, until you aren't able to actually take pictures because the Camera app FC's every time you open it. Try to use Google Camera app instead? Great idea, except that the full 16 MP resolution isn't supported by other apps. The installed music app doesn't let you sort by any parameter, you have to manually look through a huge list of all of your songs. Little things like this that you would expect thorough testing in development to have addressed have been ignored.
Also, there are only a couple of custom ROM's for the E7, one of which works fine and the other (Nori) will brick your device completely and utterly. There are several versions of this phone in the wild, one of which has true LTE support and for which Nori's ROM was made, and which the Pure XL is not. DO NOT FLASH THIS ROM. You will end up with a $300 piece of plastic. To be completely safe, do not flash any ROM that is not designed specifically for this phone. Since there are currently none, then this phone is a poor choice for those wanting to take that route.
The most you will be able to safely and reliably do with this phone is root it. Even then, you have to use King Root which is questionable at best. Don't have a Windows computer to run King Root on? That's as far as you can get. I would strongly recommend that anyone who has even the smallest desire to root, control and customize their phone (everyone reading this post) to stay as far away as you can from this phone and buy a used OnePlus One or a Note 3. The prices are almost comparable and you will end up with a phone that is truly useable and customizable.
Eyeing this phone as well, came here to see if people had luck rooting these phones with different ROMs.
If not, would probably just get a Nexus phone that is being announced soon, or even the original Nexus 6 (same price now).
And there's always the LG G3 or G4 (still using the Optimus G (G1) with the help of CM to keep it a valid phone)
Almost pulled the trigger on a Nexus 6, and then I remember about this BLU Pure XL. I was in contact with the company when they had it on Kickstarter. My main concern was the use of MTK processor. While I wasn't worrying about the performance of it (MTK high end chips are powerful!), I didn't like how they set up the internal storage partition. So I asked them and they assured me that there wouldn't be storage partition on this device, meaning about 50-55 gb would be user accessible (I deleted the email so I have no proof of their claim now). Too bad at that time I didn't need a new phone, otherwise I could have take advantage of their price of $249 (or $299, don't remember).
Anyway, I'd probably pick this over the Motorola Nexus 6, but am still considering the Oneplus One. Decision decision... too bad my LG G2 crapped out on me after that stupid Android Lollipop update. Totally messed up my phone. Otherwise I could probably still use it for another 2 years.
felix168 said:
too bad my LG G2 crapped out on me after that stupid Android Lollipop update. Totally messed up my phone. Otherwise I could probably still use it for another 2 years.
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Not try to use LGNPST recovery???
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Not try to use LGNPST recovery???
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so my LG G2, after that Lousypop update, has gone from battery drain to WIFI drops, to the latest which was when I wasn't able to answer an incoming call. When that happened, the phone would just keep ringing and ringing, and I wasn't able to do anything with it. None of the button was responding. So I went online to see if someone came up with a fix. In the back of my mind, I knew there was a good chance everything would go back to normal once I reboot, but then since I wasn't even able to turn it off, I came across some Youtube video of a guy trying to remove the battery (which was a dumb idea to begin with... there is a reason that these batteries aren't to be messed with in the first place), and I thought maybe I could disconnect it to power off the phone. Well, I didn't get that far. LOL... I kind of broke the back panel a tad and trim, and I put everything together and just shoved the phone inside the closet to let it ring and drain out the battery. The next morning, charged the dead phone and turned it back on, everything seemed normal, except for all that cosmetic damage that I made, which I was more upset with myself since I have always kept it in tip top shape. And last week, it developed a new problem... sometimes I voice calls aren't clear, and speakers are skipping. Time for a new phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BLU Pure XL is looking better and better by the minute... until I realized it's actually even taller than the Motorola Nexus 6! LMAO! decision decision...
At this point, I'm one foot closer to getting this thing too. I have an Asus Zenfone 2 which I really like but I just had it replaced due to the cellular connection on the second SIM slot in my house and the problem still persists so it seems it is a device problem. Possible theory is because the second SIM slot only supports 2G data although why that would interfere with the ability for mere phone calls I don't know, but in any event, the second SIM slot will not work in my house and this is the second phone now, so it is going back. I am going to try one more replacement SIM card again just like last time, but I already did that once before and it didn't help. So the Blu Pure XL both slots I think are LTE so I shouldn't have the same issue if that 2G slot is the culprit issue. If it is, then clearly for some odd reason, my house, in a major suburban metro area, just must deflect those signals in some bizarre fashion because I can gets calls everywhere else, but today I tried numerous times already and it is non-functional and I already wrote in to ASUS. So I think I am going to have to return the Zenfone. I can't make calls on it today already from the second SIM-the line is unavailable and when it becomes available, it drops off right away. Obviously this is not workable and it's the ZF2 as a device that doesn't work in my house on SIM 2, but SIM 1 works just fine. Issue is, I have two lines.
I've been rocking the oneplus for about a year. Amazing phone. By far the best I've owned. My days of waiting for an upgrade are over. I plan to buy the pure xl. My only fear is that it won't be popular with the devs therefore no cool stuff to flash. I will wait a month or 2 to see what happens. At the very least I'd be OK with cm nightlies. My wife has had 2 blu phones in a row. Good quality and performance for the price.
Can someone tell me the difference between the two models??
International Version vs. Chinese Version
No Support vs. Little More Support
International LTE Bands vs. Chinese LTE Bands
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
International Version vs. Chinese Version
No Support vs. Little More Support
International LTE Bands vs. Chinese LTE Bands
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Which one is better for US?? Which one is international?
Dav-701l = International Version
Depends an what you want, right now i dont recommend any of these anymore!
Maybe have a look at Xiaomi Max or Zenfone 3 Ultra...
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
Dav-701l = International Version
Depends an what you want, right now i dont recommend any of these anymore!
Maybe have a look at Xiaomi Max or Zenfone 3 Ultra...
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Which one is better for the US?? Or for me to develop different modem packages for??
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
Dav-701l = International Version
Depends an what you want, right now i dont recommend any of these anymore!
Maybe have a look at Xiaomi Max or Zenfone 3 Ultra...
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Why don't you recommend it anymore?
gideonMorrison said:
Why don't you recommend it anymore?
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Awfull Support from Huawei(Softwarewise) and no Custom ROM Support.
If you want a cheap device and can accept maybe some problems and a maybe for Android N Update then you can buy it.
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
Awfull Support from Huawei(Softwarewise) and no Custom ROM Support.
If you want a cheap device and can accept maybe some problems and a maybe for Android N Update then you can buy it.
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Hmm okay. I read some comments on the page of the max at http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p8max-reviews-7200.php Some people received the Marshmellow OTA recently...?
gideonMorrison said:
Hmm okay. I read some comments on the page of the max at http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p8max-reviews-7200.php Some people received the Marshmellow OTA recently...?
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If your interested in the p8 max then check out the asus zenfone 3 ultra.. same size phone with some way better spects
I agree. I have had both the DAV-701L and DAV-703L. Hardware is ok but Huawei is H O R R I B L E at software. The worst experience in my life was with huawei software and their "support" which is hell-bent to "make it impossible". I have sold both phones and will wait for the Zenfone 3 Ultra. **** you, Huawei.
Do not "upgrade" to the Marshmallow (Android 6). It will ruin the phone. Newer is not better, especially with software "updates". Check-out the "changelist" for the Android 6 "upgrade" here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67787826&postcount=83
HiKirin is a horrible chipset.
And for who might be interested in the differences between the two, hardware-wise they are EXACTLY the same. DAV-703L's case finish is rougher/cheaper and the SIM/card slots are also flimsier than the DAV-701L and you feel it instantly as you touch the device.
Also, DAV-703L is absolutely FULL of chinese software crap that you cannot get rid of. You have Yellowpages (for china, of course) in the Phone app and it doesn't come with anything Google (including PlayStore).
If you really want this phone, get the DAV-701L. The 703L is not worth it, even thought it is the same phone, the software (which is already crap) ruins it.
And to finish :
" But I guess there is no cure for stupidity, since every time I "upgraded" my phones ever since the Galaxy Note N7000 got Android 4, they always screwed it up, every single manufacturer (LG, Samsung, HTC). They're not at fault here, I'm the idiot who never learns his lesson and disables the damn updates. "
UzY3L said:
I agree. I have had both the DAV-701L and DAV-703L. Hardware is ok but Huawei is H O R R I B L E at software. The worst experience in my life was with huawei software and their "support" which is hell-bent to "make it impossible". I have sold both phones and will wait for the Zenfone 3 Ultra. **** you, Huawei.
Do not "upgrade" to the Marshmallow (Android 6). It will ruin the phone. Newer is not better, especially with software "updates". Check-out the "changelist" for the Android 6 "upgrade" here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67787826&postcount=83
HiKirin is a horrible chipset.
And for who might be interested in the differences between the two, hardware-wise they are EXACTLY the same. DAV-703L's case finish is rougher/cheaper and the SIM/card slots are also flimsier than the DAV-701L and you feel it instantly as you touch the device.
Also, DAV-703L is absolutely FULL of chinese software crap that you cannot get rid of. You have Yellowpages (for china, of course) in the Phone app and it doesn't come with anything Google (including PlayStore).
If you really want this phone, get the DAV-701L. The 703L is not worth it, even thought it is the same phone, the software (which is already crap) ruins it.
And to finish :
" But I guess there is no cure for stupidity, since every time I "upgraded" my phones ever since the Galaxy Note N7000 got Android 4, they always screwed it up, every single manufacturer (LG, Samsung, HTC). They're not at fault here, I'm the idiot who never learns his lesson and disables the damn updates. "
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I disagree with most of this cause if you have time and knowledge you can get rid of the Chinese crap and have all Google things you want on it.
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
I disagree with most of this cause if you have time and knowledge you can get rid of the Chinese crap and have all Google things you want on it.
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I assumed that also and just like you, I was wrong. You can uninstall some of the software and install google play store apk, sure.
But the chinese stuff that I'm talking about is embedded into the phone's core functions (dialer, menu, settings, gallery etc.). You can't get rid of them without rooting and doing some very risky editing of the phone's config files which will most likely result in a bricked device.
Bonus points : Absolutely no Huawei service center located in any other part of the globe except ASIA, will be able to fix a bricked DAV-703L. So if you brick it, you have to send it back to China. The reverse is true for the DAV-701L.
The genius that is Huawei, decided that if you can afford to pay 600$ for a phone, then you don't have the money to buy a plane ticket. Idiots...
UzY3L said:
I agree. I have had both the DAV-701L and DAV-703L. Hardware is ok but Huawei is H O R R I B L E at software. The worst experience in my life was with huawei software and their "support" which is hell-bent to "make it impossible". I have sold both phones and will wait for the Zenfone 3 Ultra. **** you, Huawei.
Do not "upgrade" to the Marshmallow (Android 6). It will ruin the phone. Newer is not better, especially with software "updates". Check-out the "changelist" for the Android 6 "upgrade" here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67787826&postcount=83
HiKirin is a horrible chipset.
And for who might be interested in the differences between the two, hardware-wise they are EXACTLY the same. DAV-703L's case finish is rougher/cheaper and the SIM/card slots are also flimsier than the DAV-701L and you feel it instantly as you touch the device.
Also, DAV-703L is absolutely FULL of chinese software crap that you cannot get rid of. You have Yellowpages (for china, of course) in the Phone app and it doesn't come with anything Google (including PlayStore).
If you really want this phone, get the DAV-701L. The 703L is not worth it, even thought it is the same phone, the software (which is already crap) ruins it.
And to finish :
" But I guess there is no cure for stupidity, since every time I "upgraded" my phones ever since the Galaxy Note N7000 got Android 4, they always screwed it up, every single manufacturer (LG, Samsung, HTC). They're not at fault here, I'm the idiot who never learns his lesson and disables the damn updates. "
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UzY3L said:
I assumed that also and just like you, I was wrong. You can uninstall some of the software and install google play store apk, sure.
But the chinese stuff that I'm talking about is embedded into the phone's core functions (dialer, menu, settings, gallery etc.). You can't get rid of them without rooting and doing some very risky editing of the phone's config files which will most likely result in a bricked device.
Bonus points : Absolutely no Huawei service center located in any other part of the globe except ASIA, will be able to fix a bricked DAV-703L. So if you brick it, you have to send it back to China. The reverse is true for the DAV-701L.
The genius that is Huawei, decided that if you can afford to pay 600$ for a phone, then you don't have the money to buy a plane ticket. Idiots...
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I am so sorry you cant root your phone and do some simple build.prop changes!
Me too, actually. Programming (even simple text) puts me right to sleep. I really admire people who know how to configure Android so, good on you.
Rooting was not an option for me as in my country (although illegal, they did it anyway), Huawei made it so that the warranty is rendered invalid if I get the bootloader unlock code from them. So you guys are lucky and I'm happy for you but I've given up on Huawei.
UzY3L said:
Me too, actually. Programming (even simple text) puts me right to sleep. I really admire people who know how to configure Android so, good on you.
Rooting was not an option for me as in my country (although illegal, they did it anyway), Huawei made it so that the warranty is rendered invalid if I get the bootloader unlock code from them. So you guys are lucky and I'm happy for you but I've given up on Huawei.
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You're in an EU country, so it doesn't matter what what Huawei tell you about the warranty, it's against the EU law. So unlocking the bootloader won't void you warranty. And I have no clue of programming, but I got rid of all the Chinese stuff on my 703, and I'm full on google, like on my previous LG G2.
If you're serious about your phone, you have to invest time on searching and editing. I couldn't be more happy about my P8 max since it is now exactly how I wanted it to be at the beginning. No single Chinese app or word, everything replaced with the right software, very long SoT.
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m00h said:
You're in an EU country, so it doesn't matter what what Huawei tell you about the warranty, it's against the EU law. So unlocking the bootloader won't void you warranty. And I have no clue of programming, but I got rid of all the Chinese stuff on my 703, and I'm full on google, like on my previous LG G2.
If you're serious about your phone, you have to invest time on searching and editing. I couldn't be more happy about my P8 max since it is now exactly how I wanted it to be at the beginning. No single Chinese app or word, everything replaced with the right software, very long SoT.
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That is very cool. Would be nice if you made a tutorial for the other people who are using the DAV-703L to get rid of all the chinese bloatware.
I know what they are doing is not legal but if I argue with them, they just won't give me the code. Weird thing is, even the tech support from UK told me the same thing.
m00h said:
You're in an EU country, so it doesn't matter what what Huawei tell you about the warranty, it's against the EU law. So unlocking the bootloader won't void you warranty. And I have no clue of programming, but I got rid of all the Chinese stuff on my 703, and I'm full on google, like on my previous LG G2.
If you're serious about your phone, you have to invest time on searching and editing. I couldn't be more happy about my P8 max since it is now exactly how I wanted it to be at the beginning. No single Chinese app or word, everything replaced with the right software, very long SoT.
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How long is your SoT? I have 701L (unrooted) and get 6 hours max I bet.
I where Surpprised two see both the 703L handset does manage LTE+ 4G here in Denmark.. (a 32GB titanium grey and 64GB silver, both 703L on EMUI4.0)
at least on the celluar-carrier "3" here in scandinavia..(only LTE-carrier i have checked on) (attached screendumps)
NB.. in respons to upper-replys about lacks of 703L vs international 701L version..like getting google-services, like play-store on 703L.. is as easy as just open "Hiapp" and type "google" and take play store from there or any other google international service..// purchased another p8max at the start of 2016, and wonderd about getting the 701L version, but didnt make sense, it costed close too double the price of the 290US delivered' i ended up paying for an 703L titanium grey..
DaneLaw said:
I where Surpprised two see both the 703L handset does manage LTE+ 4G here in Denmark.. (a 32GB titanium grey and 64GB silver, both 703L on EMUI4.0)
at least on the celluar-carrier "3" here in scandinavia..(only LTE-carrier i have checked on) (attached screendumps)
NB.. in respons to upper-replys about lacks of 703L vs international 701L version..like getting google-services, like play-store on 703L.. is as easy as just open "Hiapp" and type "google" and take play store from there or any other google international service..// purchased another p8max at the start of 2016, and wonderd about getting the 701L version, but didnt make sense, it costed close too double the price of the 290US delivered' i ended up paying for an 703L titanium grey..
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What theme is that?
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kingkea said:
What theme is that?
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the theme is "Spark" its an free huawei theme..i like it, and partically the symbols.
how do i see what LTE-band im connected on, when im on 4G on the 703L here in Scandinavia.
A little puffled :cyclops: that the 703L does manage LTE+ 4G now...
is there anyway to see the carrier & band-specs on the 4G-connection that are in play? (*will take a look in the app store.. )
Hello Xda People,
So I recently joined xda cause I need help, I recently bought a OPPO A73 in Australia (I live here), but I found out that in some other countries (Mostly Asian countries) it is also known as OPPO F5 Youth. Now, I've had this phone for around 5 months now and putting it straight out there, the software is Sh*t, I have had multiple hick ups and performance drops, it is a joke. I tried looking all over the internet for software updates for this specific phone but sadly there is non and this is the same story with rooting the phone, there is completely nothing about this A73. I have come here to find out if anyone has any idea how to root this phone or at least change the software to stock android (Although that might seem impossible as I don't now what the bootloader is) or even lineage (They do have OPPO as a brand they support but without a model ID its hard to tell if my phone model is supported). If there is way please let me know cause colour OS 3.2 is just slow and utterly disgusting to operate on. If you do need any information about my phone (CPU info, model number, hardware etc) please let me know and I'll post it upon request.
Thanks
Rainer
same mate
yeh bro I also recently brought this phone for year 7 it looks good and i cant find any roots and its so annoying if i wouldve known earlier i wouldnt buy oppo because i didnt expect it to be so like apple like with its high security no hacky sort of thingy and it is so slow I have the Oppo A73 Black model CPH1725 i got it earlier in the year at good guys for $330 what about you?
AndrewMTG said:
yeh bro I also recently brought this phone for year 7 it looks good and i cant find any roots and its so annoying if i wouldve known earlier i wouldnt buy oppo because i didnt expect it to be so like apple like with its high security no hacky sort of thingy and it is so slow I have the Oppo A73 Black model CPH1725 i got it earlier in the year at good guys for $330 what about you?
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I got mine from Optus unlocked for $259, and same here, if I’ve known I wouldn’t have bought it, especially with the performance drop, it’s pretty bad. And it’s also frustrating how the normal f5 has a colourOS 5.1 update and the f5 youth, its literally the exact same doesn’t have one?? Like, I just want to root it and put any bloody os on it cause colour Os is killing the phone in my opinion. Glad to see I’m not the only one with this problem.
any luck with this yet? I have a friend who is suffering under the exact same issue with colorOS, it would be helpful to know if the bootloader is locked or if something like Kingroot app works on it?
rootgoose said:
any luck with this yet? I have a friend who is suffering under the exact same issue with colorOS, it would be helpful to know if the bootloader is locked or if something like Kingroot app works on it?
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No still no luck, thinking of just getting the Nokia 7 Plus or Oppo r15 Pro, unless I try to install lineage in a very dodgy way but hope it works!! I'll let you know, hopefully someone else out there is looking for a solution to this madness
Just a small update, I found nothing and was not able to root or install any sort of software, seems like OPPO is the Apple of android, their security is pretty high and it's a shame on what their phones are capable of but just held back with software. Going to sell my A73 or F5 Youth (Same phone, different country) and buy the essential phone. At least I'll have a good software experience and performance with a upgrade to the camera compared to the A73. Thanks for everyone who looked at this post or replied.
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yeah unfortunate oppo is like this
i am gonna try to sell it on gumtree for like $350 and see if anyone buys it. how much did you sell it for? hec i was able to install fortnite mobile on it but gpu isn't supported
rainer217 said:
I got mine from Optus unlocked for $259, and same here, if I’ve known I wouldn’t have bought it, especially with the performance drop, it’s pretty bad. And it’s also frustrating how the normal f5 has a colourOS 5.1 update and the f5 youth, its literally the exact same doesn’t have one?? Like, I just want to root it and put any bloody os on it cause colour Os is killing the phone in my opinion. Glad to see I’m not the only one with this problem.
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Just want to piggyback and get notified if anyone finds a solution as my sister is waiting to get this phone...
OK so I've just seen another post saying Kingo and Oppo Tools doesn't work on the A73 so... hmm.
AndrewMTG said:
i am gonna try to sell it on gumtree for like $350 and see if anyone buys it. how much did you sell it for? hec i was able to install fortnite mobile on it but gpu isn't supported
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Oh, I was going to sell it after my essential phone comes in from America, was going to sell it around the same price I purchased it but might sell it for less, honestly it's not worth the money.
Winston Churchill said:
Just want to piggyback and get notified if anyone finds a solution as my sister is waiting to get this phone...
OK so I've just seen another post saying Kingo and Oppo Tools doesn't work on the A73 so... hmm.
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Well, I have had 0 luck with kingo and even couldn't have downgraded because the new software has a bug that the lower section of the keyboard (with the space bar, enter and shift keys) would register twice to I'd get random full stops and constant caps which honestly just kills me. You are better off buying a Huawei P20 Lite (OR also known as Nove 3e) or something equivalent, they have decent software updates and specs, just try steer away from Oppo if you can.
recovery mode??
i pressed the power button, volume up and volume down idk but when i did that it booted in reocvery mode, i dont think this will help but maybe theres some way unlock bootloader woth this info
****ing oppo
phone slow as hecc youtube crashes man i thought 3 gbs of ram would be enough -_- man do i wish i could refund but hopefully getting a pocophone f1 soon, remember one plus being a budget phone ooooof, too bsd i never got that in its prime
So whats happening with this phone. How can octacore be slow? heh?
Can it be rooted?
ollie2012 said:
So whats happening with this phone. How can octacore be slow? heh?
Can it be rooted?
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For me this phone is long gone, I bought the essential ph-1 when I sold the Oppo A73 for $200 on facebook. The octocore isn't actually slow, the processor in the phone is decent and should be able to handle tasks well, HOWEVER, because of the heavy and very un-optimized software (ColorOS), the phone is very slow and is not stable with most apps on the play store. And no the phone can NOT be rooted.
Speed test with the R11s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngsf95PylAw
Was the root of the device done?
Was the root of the device done?
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Did you find root him؟؟؟
Please help
Unfortunately I also have this oppo a73 with 4gb/64gb variant. Moreover my a73 has developed problems like "unknown baseband version" and "IMEI null" and it has become totally useless since it can't access any cellular network.
Please help me to find any way to flash stock ROM on it which may correct its baseband version or please guide me how to root this pathetic mobile phone so I can rewrite it's IMEI after root permissions.
Thanks in advance
rainer217 said:
Well, I have had 0 luck with kingo and even couldn't have downgraded because the new software has a bug that the lower section of the keyboard (with the space bar, enter and shift keys) would register twice to I'd get random full stops and constant caps which honestly just kills me. You are better off buying a Huawei P20 Lite (OR also known as Nove 3e) or something equivalent, they have decent software updates and specs, just try steer away from Oppo if you can.
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