One of the most annoying things of the Gear 1 is the motion to wake up the watch. Is it improved? I watched a bunch of hands on but they all tell the same story. No word about the fact that the display can't be lit all the time and that you have to do some abracadabra to wake the device. Most curious about any improvements in this department.
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One of the most annoying things of the Gear 1 is the motion to wake up the watch. Is it improved? I watched a bunch of hands on but they all tell the same story. No word about the fact that the display can't be lit all the time and that you have to do some abracadabra to wake the device. Most curious about any improvements in this department.
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well you can't have screen all the time due to technology used. AMOLED. if it would be LCD then you could have screen on all the time, but without background light (like in sony smartwatch 2). i already got used to blank screen, and i just turn the screen on/off with a single button.
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well you can't have screen all the time due to technology used. AMOLED. if it would be LCD then you could have screen on all the time, but without background light (like in sony smartwatch 2). i already got used to blank screen, and i just turn the screen on/off with a single button.
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I know. I'm wondering if they made the watch more sensitive for motions, introduced a new or better wake up motion etc . Definitely want to know more about that.
if samsung did not mention it, then probably it's the same.
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if samsung did not mention it, then probably it's the same.
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That would be a detail for people coming from the Gear1.
If the battery life is better they might have add a more sensitive option.
Btw personally I dont mind to charge the watch every night. Just some routine. I like it even better than checking the battery to see if it needs to be charged again. So if they made the wake up motion more sensitive and could still pump one day out of the battery, it would definitely be a reason for me to upgrade. Otherwise I see no compelling reasons.
I understand what OP is saying. I'm interested to know that answer as well. I actually had to turn motion off because the watch constantly stayed on while driving all day. It would kill my battery. With it off and me pressing the on button as needed, I get at least 3 days of battery life. A better motion sensor could possibly solve this issue.
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I understand what OP is saying. I'm interested to know that answer as well. I actually had to turn motion off because the watch constantly stayed on while driving all day. It would kill my battery. With it off and me pressing the on button as needed, I get at least 3 days of battery life. A better motion sensor could possibly solve this issue.
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I noticed having non-TW launcher caused issues with the motion sensor. Using stock had better motion sensor.
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I noticed having non-TW launcher caused issues with the motion sensor. Using stock had better motion sensor.
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what kind of issues did you have? i had none with nova.
I read a hand on today where the reviewer said it does turn on with the flick up of the wrist but that it doesn't turn on right away, like a couple of seconds delay. That isn't good. I want it to be quick like the pebble when you shake the wrist slightly the light comes on. Hopefully they tweak that before it is released....
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what kind of issues did you have? i had none with nova.
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I haven't had any problems with it either.
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I read a hand on today where the reviewer said it does turn on with the flick up of the wrist but that it doesn't turn on right away, like a couple of seconds delay. That isn't good. I want it to be quick like the pebble when you shake the wrist slightly the light comes on. Hopefully they tweak that before it is released....
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That's what I want. I move my arm to that wrist up position to much so the watch is almost always on. I wish it had the option to shake the wrist instead so I have better control.
Personally the only good thing about this watch is the motion thing. It works like a good 90-95% of the time. Wake up is excellent on it. However, it goes crazy when your driving.
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There really should be a pinned thread for utter disappointed features and/or people.
I am not returning my new SW2. Its too cool to have the lamest, inept and funtion-killing GUI cause me to give up. ** But I bought a Pebble watch the same day because (the SW2n currently):
- can not function as a watch. It does but it goes to sleep VERY fast. WAY too fast. This is completely unacceptable. If I want to drain my f*ing watch and be able to read it all day, I should be able to!!! Put a warning on the settings area.. like: WILL DRAIN BATTERY VERY FAST or something...
- Can not finish reading my incoming sms. Maybe you dont know the girl I am dating but she WRITES A LOT... and this may not be normal amounts ... I really mean a lot. And SONY clearly has NO IDEA about this.
- AND continuing from the above point, it goes back to the f*ing CLOCK in sleep mode. SHOULD dim and remain on my screen until I SAY OTHERWISE. NOW I have to press the power button and NOT make it power off buy accident (another STUPID DESIGN) and make it activate, press the home button and then the stupid function messaging button. NO LOGIC FLOW HERE. I have to read 5 or 6 TXTs by now.
- CAN NOT read the messages in order without going BACK and opening the messaging app again. At least that seems to be what I had to do. I might have missed proper procedure here but if that is true, shame on SONY for lacking a more intuitive operation.
The Poweramp app is cool when it works. It should STAY active. I DONT CARE about anyone else or what slogan SONY wants to claim about battery life. I want FUNCTION my f*ing way. I use Poweramp all the time. But it is not able to stay on my watch, active? Total shame.
The ONLY app I kept on my watch is the custom watch faces. It allwos me to keep the display on until the dumbwatch, overthinking watch disconnects from my RazrMaxx/4.4 Dhacker29 ROM.
So in conclusion, This watch completely fails at being a watch. Fails at running apps because it times out WAY TOO FAST. Fails at every possible area other than fitting well.
Maybe your accelerometer is faulty. It should not timeout when on hand, actually it dims and always shows time.
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Maybe your accelerometer is faulty. It should not timeout when on hand, actually it dims and always shows time.
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I hate to be the guy to say it, but is the OP trolling us?
I have the smartwatch 2, just got it yesterday, and what the OP is saying makes no sense.
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I hate to be the guy to say it, but is the OP trolling us?
I have the smartwatch 2, just got it yesterday, and what the OP is saying makes no sense.
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Well it can timeout and go totally blank ... try it, put them on the table and do not move the watch/table and it will dim and then go completely blank after a while, because the accelerometer sees it's not on the hand. So if OP's accelerometer is faulty, it might behave this way ...
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Well it can timeout and go totally blank ... try it, put them on the table and do not move the watch/table and it will dim and then go completely blank after a while, because the accelerometer sees it's not on the hand. So if OP's accelerometer is faulty, it might behave this way ...
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I am not a troll. At least I am not trying to be a troll. I do feel slightly underwhelmed buy my experience so far.
And maybe my accelerometer needs checking? If it is supposed to remain on (the screen) for more than 5 seconds when I am wearing it and trying to read something, then yes, something is wrong. Maybe the watch doesnt know when it is on a troll arm?
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I hate to be the guy to say it, but is the OP trolling us?
I have the smartwatch 2, just got it yesterday, and what the OP is saying makes no sense.
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Hello,
What he is saying actually makes perfect sense, especially on this forum - we are not the average, marketing-targeted user and we like to use our devices any way we please, without being limited by design hickups. And we are more sensitive to design flaws and marketing bs than the average consumer.
Sony missed and even lied about basic features and is not allowing, at least so far, anyone to tweak with this product's FW.
In my experience the watch proved very useful ONLY IF YOU ARE NOT RELYING SOLELY ON IT for most of your work - i, for one, would not like to read my correspondence on such a tiny screen and prefer to use the phone instead - but it would sure be nice to know that I CAN use the watch if i wanted to.
Fortunately, while driving a motorcycle, for example, getting a hint of the message content usually suffices for me to determine if i need to pullover and get my phone out, provided i get to see the screen before it times-out, which is another awkwardly missing basic function.
I will, however, hold on to the SW2 for now in hopes that Sony will straighten things the way they should.
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i agree fully with the OP as well
if i didn't know better, i would suggest posting your opinions on talk sonymobile, but as i already did that and got NO reply from Sony, i guess it would be just a waiste of time
that's my biggest problem with Sony right now: no communication
(although i must admit most manufacturers suck at communicating with their customers, try finding out when the Butterfly s is getting 4.3/4.4, not a chance)
I actually agree with the OP, there are some features that could be included in the settings menu like timeout duration or stopping the watch default to the watch screen every time it goes into standbye especially useful if travelling and using features like poweramp - you need 3x button presses to bring the poweramp screen back on and if you have a messaging app open (reading messages) it should prevent the watch from sleeping
and how fecking hard is it to develop a few watch face designs with different colours etc
TBH I think Sony are in the process of designing a totally new Smartwatch for release in early 2014 and have completely dropped the ball with this one
well, there was an update today, so i guess they didn't drop it completely
update looked good at first, but disappointing anyway
-only 1 extra watch face that's usable, i still want the abilty to design/choose my own watch face
-the option to use the light sensor for brightness is nice, but i'm glad it's optional, don't like it
-music app update totally messed it up (used to work for me)
-camera app update didn't do anything for me, still does nothing
-still no selectable timeout, huge issue for me
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Find It for SmartWatch by AQ i purchased also doesn't work anymore
argh, their own Find Phone Smart Extension ALSO doesn't work anymore!
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their own Find Phone Smart Extension ALSO doesn't work anymore!
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AFAIK I suspect that problems might occur pairing the SW2 with a non-Sony smartphone.
But please let's keep the discussion in one place only, so we can better compare these findings:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554874
i think i know why the watch can't dim while still displaying an app
those apps don't really run on the watch, they're just displaying what's happening on the phone (that's where the app is installed)
so for a watch-app to work, the watch is constantly communicating with the phone
such a connection will probably drain the watch very quickly
only the watch part can run independently, so that's why it always goes back to that screen, to save power
this is of course just what i think
FWIW, the screen on time can be controlled by the app. I use and app called IPBike for cycling which runs on the phone. This app allows you to use the watch as a head unit on the bars. It has an option to keep the watch screen on for the entire ride.
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Well it can timeout and go totally blank ... try it, put them on the table and do not move the watch/table and it will dim and then go completely blank after a while, because the accelerometer sees it's not on the hand. So if OP's accelerometer is faulty, it might behave this way ...
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Should it really go totally blank/black? Mine is only dimmed out and showing clock face all the time, but really dimmy. And it is on the table...
Oh it does, took some time, longer than i expected...
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All the incredible steps forward in phones and ROM's, and I still can't get myself to forget how much I looooved that Moto Active Display. I miss it so much. ?
Seems like such a step backward not to have it, and Android always seems to be about having everything you can imagine.
Is there any ROM's, Modules, or Apps I can use on my 7P to get this feature back?
What features you talking about specifically
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What features you talking about specifically
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The display screen flashes when you get a message, and will continue to flash occasionally until you pick up phone.
Anytime you wave your hand over screen it wakes up for a moment.
You can push on any notification and it will give you a lot more info about that notification.
If you swipe up on a notification it will take you directly to that app.
Much more interactive.
I'll find a YouTube video...
You can skip the 1st minute...
I think back in the Android 4.3-4.4.4 days we had this features even in custom Roms. I wonder why its gone. Todays active display is nice but is much less interactive. I would also be happy if some big dev would make some code which the ROMs can implement it.
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I think back in the Android 4.3-4.4.4 days we had this features even in custom Roms. I wonder why its gone. Todays active display is nice but is much less interactive. I would also be happy if some big dev would make some code which the ROMs can implement it.
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Probably because drained the battery too much. Today's AOD consume only 0.1-0.5% per hour.
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The display screen flashes when you get a message, and will continue to flash occasionally until you pick up phone.
Anytime you wave your hand over screen it wakes up for a moment.
You can push on any notification and it will give you a lot more info about that notification.
If you swipe up on a notification it will take you directly to that app.
Much more interactive.
I'll find a YouTube video...
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.newgen.alwayson&hl=en
This app has all that. Having it just to light up when you touch the screen shouldnt take much battery. Keeping it always on however is another story.
Tiz92 said:
I think back in the Android 4.3-4.4.4 days we had this features even in custom Roms. I wonder why its gone. Todays active display is nice but is much less interactive. I would also be happy if some big dev would make some code which the ROMs can implement it.
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Yes! ☺
Yeah, it came on my 4.4.4 device.
It was when Google owned Moto, so it gave Moto better access to Android to do something special, and everyone always seemed to agree Moto did it better than Google, but it has disappeared. ?
The app discussed after your post seems it might offer some of that though. I'm gonna check it out.
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Probably because drained the battery too much. Today's AOD consume only 0.1-0.5% per hour.
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I have heard this discussed, and, while I understood the concern in theory, I never understood d it in practice.
Meaning I used a phone with it for a long time (Droid Turbo) and I always felt like I had GREAT battery life. Granted it was a big battery @ the time with 3700,but I got 2 days out of the battery sometimes, and I'm not a light user.
Batteries complains are nonsense. It consumes less then a regular always on display. Its just a features which dissapeared for some reason (as others did also).
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.newgen.alwayson&hl=en
This app has all that. Having it just to light up when you touch the screen shouldnt take much battery. Keeping it always on however is another story.
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I DL'd it and have been playing.
I found the preview to see what it will look like, but waiting for a notification to come in to make sure it actually turns on is like waiting for a kettle to boil...only worse, cuz ya can't tell if the burner is on.
Looks like it's gonna do the trick though. ?
Ordered my OP7P today buy I'm quite ready to cancel it. I knew that there's no led notification light but was 100% convinced that there will be some sort of alternative. From what I can read there's nothing like that? No AOD, no nothing. I mean - really? Any third party apps?
Please don't tell me that I have to DT2W every time or worse - lift my phone to check battery percentage (if on charge) or notification icons? I found similar thread on OPs community forum that was closed after 4 replies and with suggestion of.... getting a Samsung phone. Bloody joke.
So, any alternatives?
Well you have to tap it once to wake up te clock, and immediately after you picked the Phone the clock is also waking up. For me it's fine. For you maybe annoying. Some guy here made a notofication light on the screen but for now at least it's battery draining
Lift to wake is very sensitive where even slight movements will trigger ambient display.
I'm on a custom ROM though and this has AOD baked in but even if I was still on OOS, lift to wake is perfect for me.
I remember Ambient Display from Nexus phone and it was terrible. But at least I had notification light back then.
Someone did make an app for the 6t and I think it works for the 7 pro also. I think it's called notifybuddy.
NotifyBuddy is great, but don't use it if you use OK GOOGLE as they clash. Use pixel pulse instead
NotifyBuddy indeed is great, but it totally drains your battery. I am now using "Plus Beat" (find in Play Store) which uses your complete sides of the screen. Per app customizable, works great together with Renovate Ice
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NotifyBuddy indeed is great, but it totally drains your battery. I am now using "Plus Beat" (find in Play Store) which uses your complete sides of the screen. Per app customizable, works great together with Renovate Ice
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Plus Beat also reported by others as clashing with ok google.
Possible. But since I do not use Google stuff, that is all frozen, so wouldn't know (neither would want to test)
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Lift to wake is very sensitive where even slight movements will trigger ambient display.
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I actually find this usefull.
Yes, NotifyBuddy could work for you now...
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Ordered my OP7P today buy I'm quite ready to cancel it. I knew that there's no led notification light but was 100% convinced that there will be some sort of alternative. From what I can read there's nothing like that? No AOD, no nothing. I mean - really? Any third party apps?
Please don't tell me that I have to DT2W every time or worse - lift my phone to check battery percentage (if on charge) or notification icons? I found similar thread on OPs community forum that was closed after 4 replies and with suggestion of.... getting a Samsung phone. Bloody joke.
So, any alternatives?
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Just download an AOD app l on the play store or install a custom rom.
But canceling your order simply because of that is a little weird... Especially when there's loads of options available. Also, did you not look up all the details about the phone before ordering? If so, maybe next time look at ALL the info for the device you're about to buy.
Assuming something with no research, especially with new technology, will always bite you in the ass
I use this one here closest thing I found to an actual aod https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.newgen.alwayson
Hi guys,
Noticed a very interesting thing today: suddenly a white light started to pulse next to the front cam every time I was tilting the phone. It was quick 3-4 pulses with strict intervals as if a sensor was working. It didn't pulse when phone was in a fixed position, only when tilting, in all apps.
A reboot fixed this, but I wonder if there is any sensor there that activated because of something? Never experienced this before!
Any thoughts what it can be? Thx.
Sounds like proximity sensor to me.
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Sounds like proximity sensor to me.
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Thanks. I also thought so but the phone didn't turn off the screen when I was placing my finger on that sensor. The proximity sensor should turn the screen off as far as I am aware. Maybe a glitch after doing a video call via Viber?
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Thanks. I also thought so but the phone didn't turn off the screen when I was placing my finger on that sensor. The proximity sensor should turn the screen off as far as I am aware. Maybe a glitch after doing a video call via Viber?
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A glitch with viber thats causing excessive proximity sensor usage. It will eventually burn the pixels around that area like the other post posted today.
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A glitch with viber thats causing excessive proximity sensor usage. It will eventually burn the pixels around that area like the other post posted today.
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Thanks for this! I did test my screen and all looks good but this is worrying. However, this only happened once although I use Viber video calls every day.
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Thanks for this! I did test my screen and all looks good but this is worrying. However, this only happened once although I use Viber video calls every day.
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Im going to try this out myself next week and see what's going on. Mine ain't coming until Monday.
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A glitch with viber thats causing excessive proximity sensor usage. It will eventually burn the pixels around that area like the other post posted today.
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Hoe bright is it?
Normally it could blink during SOT and with that duty cycle it will outlast many of the other screen pixels.
Or is there something I'm missing???
Are it's pixels IR?
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Hoe bright is it?
Normally it could blink during SOT and with that duty cycle it will outlast many of the other screen pixels.
Or is there something I'm missing???
Are it's pixels IR?
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Who's a hoe?
Probably much ado about nothing. But I can't test it. , The only thing that came to mind was screen being full brightness and proximity sensor being on for hours causing this. But just a hunch .
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A glitch with viber thats causing excessive proximity sensor usage. It will eventually burn the pixels around that area like the other post posted today.
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Who's a hoe?
Probably much ado about nothing. But I can't test it. , The only thing that came to mind was screen being full brightness and proximity sensor being on for hours causing this. But just a hunch .
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Even at full brightness because it's flashing, it's duty cycle is less than the surrounding pixels plus it will "flash" by darkening its pixels depending on screen color.
If it has specialized IR emitters I could see that happening maybe; if there's a design or manufacturing flaw.
Because it's flashing visible light it would be hard to use a cam to detect IR... which is how I normally check IR emitters.
While it was easily seen on the Note 10 i can't see it on the Note 20
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While it was easily seen on the Note 10 i can't see it on the Note 20
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Interesting. Maybe it uses IR diodes?
If it doesn't display when it's active maybe that's why some think it's "burnt out"?
Lol, until someone mentioned the flashing circle I never noticed it.
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Interesting. Maybe it uses IR diodes?
If it doesn't display when it's active maybe that's why some think it's "burnt out"?
Lol, until someone mentioned the flashing circle I never noticed it.
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I don't know.
I've read that they replaced all the sensors with the front camera, and that′s one of the battery killer since a few were completely passive like the ambiant light one, that's now active.
When a passive sensor needs no electricity to operate, an active needs to, and the camera can't work passively so it drains battery.
They advised to turn off all the features that use the front camera as a sensor like the auto brightness, smart stay (and also what can use the accelerometer like smart alert and raise to turn on the screen), etc. to avoid the process Android System to take to much battery.
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While it was easily seen on the Note 10 i can't see it on the Note 20
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I don't know.
I've read that they replaced all the sensors with the front camera, and that′s one of the battery killer since a few were completely passive like the ambiant light one, that's now active.
When a passive sensor needs no electricity to operate, an active needs to, and the camera can't work passively so it drains battery.
They advised to turn off all the features that use the front camera as a sensor like the auto brightness, smart stay (and also what can use the accelerometer like smart alert and raise to turn on the screen), etc. to avoid the process Android System to take to much battery.
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Even passive sensors use some current although it may be in the microamps.
Autobrightness is a trash apk anyway.
Seems highly unlikely that the whole cam be used for these functions if at all.
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Thanks. I also thought so but the phone didn't turn off the screen when I was placing my finger on that sensor. The proximity sensor should turn the screen off as far as I am aware. Maybe a glitch after doing a video call via Viber?
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Not sure if anyone told you this sorry haven't had time to read the thread but I would suggest avoiding viber calls on this phone. The proximity sensor is damaging the screen when on viber. It seems viber is accessing the sensor too aggressively.
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Not sure if anyone told you this sorry haven't had time to read the thread but I would suggest avoiding viber calls on this phone. The proximity sensor is damaging the screen when on viber. It seems viber is accessing the sensor too aggressively.
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You know this is most likely a digital circuit; a fixed voltage of an either high or low value... those values are fixed and don't change. Even firmware can't alter that let alone apks. Duty cycle rate/length maybe.
This urban rumor about the proximity sensor causing screen damage has been around since at least 2015, long before OLED screens.
A Google search yielded nothing except this:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/Proximity-sensor-issues-S10-S10/td-p/498492/page/9
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Even passive sensors use some current although it may be in the microamps.
Autobrightness is a trash apk anyway.
Seems highly unlikely that the whole cam be used for these functions if at all.
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Trash apk ? Sorry i meant the built-in adaptive brightness.
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You know this is most likely a digital circuit; a fixed voltage of an either high or low value... those values are fixed and don't change. Even firmware can't alter that let alone apks. Duty cycle rate/length maybe.
This urban rumor about the proximity sensor causing screen damage has been around since at least 2015, long before OLED screens.
A Google search yielded nothing except this:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/Proximity-sensor-issues-S10-S10/td-p/498492/page/9
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I personally never heard about it. Thanks for the insight
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Trash apk ? Sorry i meant the built-in adaptive brightness"
I personally never heard about it. Thanks for the insight
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My opinions.
There certainly are long standing Samsung issues that span more then one generation of phones. The proximity sensor trashing the screen doesn't appear to exist at all. If anything it conserves screen life.
Auto brightness was always twitchy even on my S4+.
Auto brightness was never truly adaptive... and still isn't. Lol, all it does is give me a headache and waste resources.
The other thing is I always try to avoid using my phones in direct sunlight. Very rarely do I ever go past 65% brightness.
Direct sunlight+high ambient temperature+high power consumption can really overheat a phone fast.
Even worse...
Auto brightness on+charging+sunlight+accidental screen turn on that's not noticed, can fry a phone in a few minutes. Real easy to do in the car... been there.
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My opinions.
There certainly are long standing Samsung issues that span more then one generation of phones. The proximity sensor trashing the screen doesn't appear to exist at all. If anything it conserves screen life.
Auto brightness was always twitchy even on my S4+.
Auto brightness was never truly adaptive... and still isn't. Lol, all it does is give me a headache and waste resources.
The other thing is I always try to avoid using my phones in direct sunlight. Very rarely do I ever go past 65% brightness.
Direct sunlight+high ambient temperature+high power consumption can really overheat a phone fast.
Even worse...
Auto brightness on+charging+sunlight+accidental screen turn on that's not noticed, can fry a phone in a few minutes. Real easy to do in the car... been there.
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Thanks, i never thought about that so it's a very valuable information.
Just in case if it can be useful :
A few years ago I found an app called Underburn which is a complete new approach about adaptive brightness.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.out386.underburn
Instead of adjusting the screen brightness from the ambient light, it set it according of the amount of white pixels displayed on screen to avoid binding you, and it doesn't care about sunlight.
The more white is displayed, the more it will dim the screen (by reducing the screen brightness, not by applying a filter ; even if there's also a setting for that if its too bright for you even at the minimum level) by the amount of your choosing.
It can play a role to save battery too somehow.
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Thanks, i never thought about that so it's a very valuable information.
Just in case if it can be useful :
A few years ago I found an app called Underburn which is a complete new approach about adaptive brightness.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.out386.underburn
Instead of adjusting the screen brightness from the ambient light, it set it according of the amount of white pixels displayed on screen to avoid binding you, and it doesn't care about sunlight.
The more white is displayed, the more it will dim the screen (by reducing the screen brightness, not by applying a filter ; even if there's also a setting for that if its too bright for you even at the minimum level) by the amount of your choosing.
It can play a role to save battery too somehow.
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I'll take a look at it. I'm running on dark mode but since it's Pie it's not native to all apps like Gmail which burns my eyes out.
*I'm playing with it. It will run on Pie. It takes some time to set up but definitely has potential.
Haven't been able to fairly gauge it's configured battery usage.
I bought myself a Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon Version (Hong Kong Version). After around 2 weeks right we’re the proximity sensor is, a dark discoloration started to appear. It’s not super good visible, but still it was there. I tried to overlook it but couldn’t. So i started a repair/exchange process. After a huge war to get a perfect device the shop where i bought the mobile exchanged it with a new one. But again after 1 week this weird dark spot started to appear. Sometimes the splotch is faintly visible, sometimes he is very visible. Now i have payed 1300 Dollars but can’t have a perfect display. Anyone having the same issue?
From0toHero said:
I bought myself a Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon Version (Hong Kong Version). After around 2 weeks right we’re the proximity sensor is, a dark discoloration started to appear. It’s not super good visible, but still it was there. I tried to overlook it but couldn’t. So i started a repair/exchange process. After a huge war to get a perfect device the shop where i bought the mobile exchanged it with a new one. But again after 1 week this weird dark spot started to appear. Sometimes the splotch is faintly visible, sometimes he is very visible. Now i have payed 1300 Dollars but can’t have a perfect display. Anyone having the same issue?
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Ask yourself , what rogue apps are you heavily using that cause this issue. These things normally occur during using VoIP apps on high brightness with screen left ON for long durations. Heat , bright screen and VoIP apps that use the proximity sensor continuously degrade it.
User KURDking posted about similar issues on this forum a month or so back.
Limeybastard said:
Ask yourself , what rogue apps are you heavily using that cause this issue. These things normally occur during using VoIP apps on high brightness with screen left ON for long durations. Heat , bright screen and VoIP apps that use the proximity sensor continuously degrade it.
User KURDking posted about similar issues on this forum a month or so back.
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First i use the mobile on very low brightness since i got it. Secondly i used nothing like the apps you described. So i can’t see how i caused this. And I’m not the only one. There are other cases with exactly the same issue. It’s a design flaw.
I forgot to mention that i carefully checked the battery temperature and cpu temperature all the time to avoid unnecessary strain on the display and the internals. But still after a short time on both mobiles the same issue.
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I forgot to mention that i carefully checked the battery temperature and cpu temperature all the time to avoid unnecessary strain on the display and the internals. But still after a short time on both mobiles the same issue.
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So what app are you using that is using the sensor all the time with display on? Let me guess none.
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So what app are you using that is using the sensor all the time with display on? Let me guess none.
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Lol i own the mobile max 2 weeks. In this two weeks i watched videos. I used whatsapp for texting (maybe 2-3 phone calls). I used a video player to watch download videos, but i used nothing that would have left the display on for a long time with the proximity sensor working. I used the phone more for media, because i still own my iPhone 11 pro max for phone calls and alike. Hence i can’t explain why this is happening. I’m the first one who would say yeah i used the apps you mentioned on high brightness all the time, but that’s not the case.
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So what app are you using that is using the sensor all the time with display on? Let me guess none.
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Btw your sarcastic questions are unnecessary. If you think your clever and everyone else is a moron, nice for you. But the Note 20 Ultra is not my first mobile, and i know what to avoid, and what to do in most cases. But when i get the same issue two times in less than 2 weeks without doing anything maybe causing this, i think it’s ok to ask if anyone else is having the same issue.
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Btw your sarcastic questions are unnecessary. If you think your clever and everyone else is a moron, nice for you. But the Note 20 Ultra is not my first mobile, and i know what to avoid, and what to do in most cases. But when i get the same issue two times in less than 2 weeks without doing anything maybe causing this, i think it’s ok to ask if anyone else is having the same issue.
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I can respond however I wish.
Now going back to your question, is the attached what you are talking about ?
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I can respond however I wish.
Now going back to your question, is the attached what you are talking about ?
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Oh gosh it’s not that severe. It’s much more faint. But still its there
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Oh gosh it’s not that severe. It’s much more faint. But still its there
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Here's the thread I was referring to from KURDking. Not sure it will help or not.
Screen Issue!
So the other day i got a call on viber (a calling app) and when you get a call the status bars not transparent so it was still black anyway after the phone call i noticed a black dark pixel on my status bar and it annoyed me it was on my home...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Here's the thread I was referring to from KURDking. Not sure it will help or not.
Screen Issue!
So the other day i got a call on viber (a calling app) and when you get a call the status bars not transparent so it was still black anyway after the phone call i noticed a black dark pixel on my status bar and it annoyed me it was on my home...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Exactly this thread i found before. It’s exactly the same issue. And i was in contact with a other guy over Reddit who also exchanged 3 mobiles with the very sane issue.
Limeybastard said:
Here's the thread I was referring to from KURDking. Not sure it will help or not.
Screen Issue!
So the other day i got a call on viber (a calling app) and when you get a call the status bars not transparent so it was still black anyway after the phone call i noticed a black dark pixel on my status bar and it annoyed me it was on my home...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Thank you for your constructive help
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Thank you for your constructive help
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No worries bubba. I hope you find an amicable solution soon.
Yeah every n20u has it. Some people just don't have the eyes to see it or choose not to / conditioned to ignore it.
I can see it on demand but I forgot it was even there till this thread. No way around it, it's a design flaw of this generation.
My n10+ isn't visible unless it's being used but what can we do, Nothing.
My US Note 20 Ultra has that as well. I didn't notice it for 3 months, then there it was. It is from the proximity sensor, and it's only visible in dark environments, and on days when I've had long calls. Other times, it's not visible at all and I'm guessing the sensor is under the screen and that the visible flashing causes it to slightly offset the AMOLED pixels. Every Note 20 Ultra I've seen also has image retention issue (not to the point of burn in) but high contrast images fade off the screen for about 5-10 seconds and this is only visible on gray backgrounds. Looking for a "perfect" one may be a waste of time.