Even if devs can unlock the bootloader and root this phone, how much can devs do considering how the x8 processor works? Would cm10.2 work well considering that Motorola has specific processors doing specific tasks?
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The basic 2 processors and GPU processors would probably be easy enough. The other two might be a challenge
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Does anyone have date when root will be available for the new maxx?
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Does anyone have date when root will be available for the new maxx?
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No ETAs ever.
I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, so just just wait patiently.
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Why X8 doesn't matter...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...x8-chip-gives-us-a-lesson-in-marketing-speak/
"At any rate, the Motorola X8 is more or less a Qualcomm Snapdragon."
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Why X8 doesn't matter...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...x8-chip-gives-us-a-lesson-in-marketing-speak/
"At any rate, the Motorola X8 is more or less a Qualcomm Snapdragon."
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It may not matter but custom roms still need to make use of the contextual computing core and the voice processing core. Which I believe is what the OP is talking about if you took a second to read it.
AWD FTW said:
It may not matter but custom roms still need to make use of the contextual computing core and the voice processing core. Which I believe is what the OP is talking about if you took a second to read it.
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I read it. My response addresses the fact that people, including the OP, think that the X8 is wildly different than anything the Android community has ever seen. It's Qualcomm + 2 cores + firmware customizations.
The OP is asking people to speculate whether CM10.2 or any ROM will work fine... and it will more than likely work fine once the devs get access to it -- just without the Motorola touchless controls. Most ROMs kill vendor specific customizations. I expect any new ROM out there that isn't based on a Motorola build will kill off the use of contextual processors. But it certainly doesn't stop the pace of ROMs being released. Example: CM10.2 doesn't do eye tracking on the SGS4, and never will.
So yes, I did read what the OP wrote. I understand what the OP is asking. And I responded to it.
But isn't eye tracking just a software where as the extra cores on the phone hardware issues? The question I am wondering would you be able to control the snapdragon processor without controlling the other 2 cores. Because the way moto spoke about it was as if they were all connected working simultaneously.
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craigbailey1986 said:
But isn't eye tracking just a software where as the extra cores on the phone hardware issues? The question I am wondering would you be able to control the snapdragon processor without controlling the other 2 cores. Because the way moto spoke about it was as if they were all connected working simultaneously.
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Depends on how the extra cores are packaged.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2422513,00.asp
"Separating the custom logic from the CPU will allow Motorola to build X8s based on other CPUs, Arshad said.
"We can with with any Qualcomm processor. We can work with anybody's CPU. That's the beauty of it; all of our technology and experiences are decoupled from the legacy CPU processor," he said."
That to me says out the gate, things that are not bound to the contextual processor continue to exist as if there was none -- e.g. it runs just like any Qualcomm Snapdragon.
Where we see clues of customization where no doubt kernel work needs to be done is this:
"We've done additional optimizations on top of that such as optimizing the entire Linux user space to move it to an ARM instruction set, cache optimization, Dalvik just-in-time optimization, and we've changed the file system," Arshad said. "It's full hardware-software integration to deliver best-in-class performance."
So for it to perform as stock, it would seem that X8 optimizations must be done. But I read this as it is not required to get a custom ROM working -- it just won't have the battery life and speed of its optimized peer. But that's also pretty par for most ROMs out the gate -- lot of tweaking, tuning, etc. that has to happen before you start getting better than stock.
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Does anyone have date when root will be available for the new maxx?
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member for 6 years and 1 post to ask for a root eta... i'm so confused.
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member for 6 years and 1 post to ask for a root eta... i'm so confused.
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I have seen root on phones before they hit the market, Just thought I would ask. Don't have time to read much, just need root for tethering before I purchase the new MAXX.
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I have seen root on phones before they hit the market, Just thought I would ask. Don't have time to read much, just need root for tethering before I purchase the new MAXX.
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Are you on a grandfathered unlimited plan? I thought all of the "new" VZW plans include tethering for free? No root is the only stumbling block for me.
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Are you on a grandfathered unlimited plan? I thought all of the "new" VZW plans include tethering for free? No root is the only stumbling block for me.
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Yes, I still have the old alltel unlimited plan.
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Are you on a grandfathered unlimited plan? I thought all of the "new" VZW plans include tethering for free? No root is the only stumbling block for me.
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The 6bg maxx plan does not have tethering, but do not be worried. If we can gain access to root we should be fine with tether.
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I'm not sure a worst question has ever been asked on any forum, but... there are no eta's. In fact as far as I know, there is no one working on root right now.
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I'm not sure a worst question has ever been asked on any forum, but... there are no eta's. In fact as far as I know, there is no one working on root right now.
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There was also "no one" working on unlocking moto bout loaders when Dan popped the news he got it. I'm sure some one some where is, especially now that the X is out on Verizon too.
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I am not holding my breath for root but I would imagine we will get it. why? lets look at it this way these guys do what they do for free some get donations but that is like putting out a tip jar never know what you will get. They have this in their blood I ma guessing someone is looking at the maxx/moto x and the X8 processor and saying I'm going to crack this *****. It's like a game to them they have to love what they do they do it for free.
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There was also "no one" working on unlocking moto bout loaders when Dan popped the news he got it. I'm sure some one some where is, especially now that the X is out on Verizon too.
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Many people worked on the OMAP droids to no avail, Dan did great work and I'm not saying it's not possible or that there isn't someone with the ability to do it, but it takes ability and desire to do it. What I see lacking right now is a lack of desire.
So, unless one of the few people with the ability has the desire you will all wish you had bought an unlocked device.
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I am not holding my breath for root but I would imagine we will get it. why? lets look at it this way these guys do what they do for free some get donations but that is like putting out a tip jar never know what you will get. They have this in their blood I ma guessing someone is looking at the maxx/moto x and the X8 processor and saying I'm going to crack this *****. It's like a game to them they have to love what they do they do it for free.
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For many it's what they do for a living (Security), and many may have cracked their own device and not be sharing what they have done. So I think from information not in the public domain, that there is a lack of desire to do this. maybe someone new will rise up and become the batman for this issue.
jimmydafish said:
Many people worked on the OMAP droids to no avail, Dan did great work and I'm not saying it's not possible or that there isn't someone with the ability to do it, but it takes ability and desire to do it. What I see lacking right now is a lack of desire.
So, unless one of the few people with the ability has the desire you will all wish you had bought an unlocked device.
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For many it's what they do for a living (Security), and many may have cracked their own device and not be sharing what they have done. So I think from information not in the public domain, that there is a lack of desire to do this. maybe someone new will rise up and become the batman for this issue.
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W Batman !
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This is a little placeholder
All these provider-based development threads for the same phone . . . feels like fragmentation.
- ooofest
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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+1
I support this subforum.
aj8600 said:
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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Sure, I understand, thanks. Was making a funny - hence my smiley - related to complaints on Android OS fragmentation, since the number of subforums looks (on the surface) like so many variations, now.
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release
I notice hhgregg says launch date is the 12th and they are most likely correct but is it common for seperate retailers to have phone on the exact day the Verizon store has it? if I am correct don't target Walmart for example get the phones after the actual Verizon stores have it? Just a question
where's jt1134?
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thabless3d1 said:
I notice hhgregg says launch date is the 12th and they are most likely correct but is it common for seperate retailers to have phone on the exact day the Verizon store has it? if I am correct don't target Walmart for example get the phones after the actual Verizon stores have it? Just a question
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this is the development forums, release discussion belongs in the General section over HERE
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whats this "=/="
its not in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_symbols
you cant make up symbols
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whats this "=/="
its not in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_mathematical_symbols
you cant make up symbols
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=/= is ≠ is != ... but you already knew that.
Fragmentation is relative. Also a dumb term for dumb pple that have lost the arguement. A windows notepad doc has zero "fragmentation" what does that prove. And what a term to coin by steve jobs. Since its "fragmented" u say stevie, can i use a defragmenter. No wonder pple call rooting jail breaking on apple. First because theres no legitimate intelligent third party development and second because its a virtual prison cell. The apple wardens hate to see cracks in the concrete and bars. Apple will never match 4.0 however long they try. Cant compare a prison cell to a full stadium.
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I hope verizon users get some support to when my pre order arrives so far looks dead in this area.
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I hope verizon users get some support to when my pre order arrives so far looks dead in this area.
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On or by July 9th/10th/11th, depending how soon your ordered.
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Here's hoping one of you talented developers can make a one-click root tool for the Verizon SGSIII. I have kind of fallen in love with the WugFresh toolkit for the GNex.
Just pre-ordered it tonight in time to keep my unlimited data, can't wait to get it in my hands and get a real taste of CM9 :thumbup: Gotta get TouchWiz off of there pronto...
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The root methods out there for the SG3 should work on the VZW variant right?
760hacker said:
The root methods out there for the SG3 should work on the VZW variant right?
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In general, yes. Since all US variants are using the same SOC, just different modems, there should be no issues with cross-pollenating root methods.
In practice, we won't know until things start getting into peoples' hands.
Personally, I'm finding it difficult to sit and wait until week-after-next (my estimated ship date is 7/11) to get mine.
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In general, yes. Since all US variants are using the same SOC, just different modems, there should be no issues with cross-pollenating root methods.
In practice, we won't know until things start getting into peoples' hands.
Personally, I'm finding it difficult to sit and wait until week-after-next (my estimated ship date is 7/11) to get mine.
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I can't wait to get mine.
Problem is, I'm spoiled. I have a Galaxy Nexus that I opened another line for, so I used the upgrade on my line that I got now in order to ensure I keep my unlimited data for another two years. My mom will be getting my Nexus.
Now here's the part where I'm spoiled- the SGSIII is a superior phone, that much most people can agree on. However, the SGSIII is running Touchwiz over ICS (4.0.4?). My Nexus is running stock 4.1. It's gonna take some getting used to going back to ICS, even if Jelly Bean has only been public for a day or so.
I believe the International S3's are able to get the 4.1 update now.
I don't see us being to far behind once we actually get our devices from big red.
Please like and join this page. https://www.facebook.com/UnlockedAttOneXBootloader
AT&T needs to be publicly embarrassed into doing the right thing. This is a start.
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Please like and join this page. https://www.facebook.com/UnlockedAttOneXBootloader
AT&T needs to be publicly embarrassed into doing the right thing. This is a start.
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Here we go!!
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I hit the like button. Not sure how to join the Page though. Facebook is not easy and I'm using my non-rooted HOX.
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I think it would be even more of an argument if every person posted on their wall complaining about the boot-loader. Then everyone would see it (users/media/fanboys/etc)
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I think it would be even more of an argument if every person posted on their wall complaining about the boot-loader. Then everyone would see it (users/media/fanboys/etc)
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Agreed
I've posted countless times on both AT& T's and HTC's walls. They don't give a crap.
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http://www.facebook.com/ATT?ref=ts
Thanks everyone! We need this to spread like like wildfire! This will be linked on AT&T's Facebook page eventually. I think we need to give it a week to catch to some steam. Post this anywhere you possibly can. Hit me up on Facebook. Please state its for the group!
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Maybe attach a Kony 2012 video to it.
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Maybe attach a Kony 2012 video to it.
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Oh God, I lol'd so hard
What do you guys expect? Obviously rooted and unlocked devices cost the carriers and MFR's $$$. In lost tethering revenue, increased RMA rates, etc. etc. Don't think for one second that ATT doesn't have a detailed analysis of what rooted users cost them in terms of both lost revenue and increased RMAs.
This is a cat and mouse game, it's futile to ask the mouse to just jump in the cat's mouth.
I don't get it.
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What do you guys expect? Obviously rooted and unlocked devices cost the carriers and MFR's $$$. In lost tethering revenue, increased RMA rates, etc. etc. Don't think for one second that ATT doesn't have a detailed analysis of what rooted users cost them in terms of both lost revenue and increased RMAs.
This is a cat and mouse game, it's futile to ask the mouse to just jump in the cat's mouth.
I don't get it.
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Good thing I got an international one x?
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I see your point. But why can Vivid be unlocked while ours can't? Either lock all of them or none. All I want is for att to allow HTC to fulfill their pledge to unlock the bootloaders on all of their devices.
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I see your point. But why can Vivid be unlocked while ours can't? Either lock all of them or none. All I want is for att to allow HTC to fulfill their pledge to unlock the bootloaders on all of their devices.
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Good question, dunno. Is it out of warranty? Maybe once devices hit a certain age they don't fear the RMA flood.
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Good thing I got an international one x?
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Yep, and you're locked out of their latest gen network and htc is assuming no liability because you waived your warranty when you unlocked it.
Thing is, with att, even if you waive warranty on HTCDEV they have no way to check that. And they have customers in there face on a 2 year contract "hey my device just randomly stopped working, I need a new one!". What are they supposed to do?
Again, I'm not taking sides. I think we have a right to do what we're doing, I'm just saying I don't ever expect the carriers to embrace it.
And look at this angle.
With 1.85 and unlocked BL and root, I could write a cool app and submit it to the market. Some sort of backup app or boot animation or whatever, so it requires root, of course. And I could set it up to timebomb permabrick EVERY SINGLE DEVICE it was installed on by trashing SBL3. Can you understand why this makes the carriers nervous?
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Maybe attach a Kony 2012 video to it.
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Lol
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They still sell the vivid and several other devices with unlocked bootloaders. The percentage of users who want to do what we want to do with our phones is so small that we would barely be a blip on the bottom line.
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What do you guys expect? Obviously rooted and unlocked devices cost the carriers and MFR's $$$. In lost tethering revenue, increased RMA rates, etc. etc. Don't think for one second that ATT doesn't have a detailed analysis of what rooted users cost them in terms of both lost revenue and increased RMAs.
This is a cat and mouse game, it's futile to ask the mouse to just jump in the cat's mouth.
I don't get it.
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Couldn't say it any better!
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Right now I'm at a loss of words. I am thankful for the support shown by the community so far. The reason this whole boot loader thing got me going was my inspire 4g. I had 2 years on that phone. It was my first venture into android and i was hooked. Rooted it as soon as I understood what the risks involved. Never bricked it. I only did it to be able to back my phone up entirely. I never expected to run a custom rom. I did and never looked back. I treated that phone badly on day and needed a new one, hence the One X. I had hoped to get a 1.85 but I didn't. I spent $213 dollars over 2 years on apps and in app purchases. I just want to be able to transfer all that to this phone. That shouldn't be too hard. Unfortunately it issue without root. Who is at fault here? Is it AT&T, HTC, or even Google for not providing a way for us to have a working backup utility without root?
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Not bad I guess ...
www.mobilemag.com/2013/02/14/motorola-atrix-hd-customer-satisfaction/
Night_wing said:
Not bad I guess ...
www.mobilemag.com/2013/02/14/motorola-atrix-hd-customer-satisfaction/
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saw that. Moto satisfies customers who don't hack into their phones and do stuff they like! They want us to stick with what they give by locking up stuff. That's where it sucks! :/
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saw that. Moto satisfies customers who don't hack into their phones and do stuff they like! They want us to stick with what they give by locking up stuff. That's where it sucks! :/
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+1 Normal User: "This phone is alright, I can make calls and post pics of my kitten on Facebook." Dev/Modder: "****ing Motorola!"
MOTO gives a very nice performance at a very nice price that's why i like moto
The statistical difference between 8.57 and 8.23 could very well be mute. In other words everyone is equally satisfied by their phone here.
Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Oh, definitely no. Check out the general section of the og Atrix 4G forums... threads and threads with countless others saying the same thing
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Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Nah, I'm with you on that one. This is my 2nd bad experience with Moto, and it's like "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
I had a CliqXT which wasn't bad at the time and came with Eclair (2.1), we were on their timeline for the great GB update and it kept getting pushed further and further, finally after half a year of waiting Moto pulled out and said no, you're stuck on 2.1 Fortunately we weren't locked down and Turl brought us CM7.
A few phones later, here I am with the Atrix2, a completely locked down phone that leaves you at the mercy of Moto to update it and do something with it, and we all know how much you can rely on Moto to satisfy their customers. They said that they would unlock bootloaders, technically they did, but nowhere near the capacity that Moto users as a whole appreciate. It's a shame too, because their hardware is solid, but ultimately it's their loss.
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Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Me too! Switching to samsung or htc next.
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saw that. Moto satisfies customers who don't hack into their phones and do stuff they like! They want us to stick with what they give by locking up stuff. That's where it sucks! :/
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+1 Normal User: "This phone is alright, I can make calls and post pics of my kitten on Facebook." Dev/Modder: "****ing Motorola!"
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I bet if they conducted the survey here on XDA, the result would be drastically different. I have a friend with the Razor, and another with an Atrix HD. My old Skyrocket, running CM10.1 nightly, with a custom kernel and radio, out performs both in almost every aspect. It's a shame that Moto would make such a potentially incredible device and then hide most of that potential behind a locked boot loader under the guise of protecting me from myself. Definitely my last Motorola device. End rant, back to work for me.lol
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Someone in working on ?
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No Root , No party , No Mods
Someone in working on ?
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Agreed, I would LOVE to know if we will get root on the Ultra and Maxx before I buy one of them!
I really hope someone works on root, I would love to get this phone but I need wireless tethering!
Root will end up coming. I believe the verizon moto x will be the same root method.
Unlocked, thats the million dollar question.
I'd like to know if anyone is working on it as well...
I don't necessarily need to be able to do ROMs, but I'd like to get root to see if I can get the AOSP browser on this damn thing. I need the bookmark syncing with Chrome on my PC, but the Chrome app just blows. AOSP browser works perfectly.
I, too, assume it'll be a similar root process as the Moto X since they're almost completely identical. But the SW on the Moto X is even less modified than on our Droids, so that small difference might be part of a significant difference when it comes down to rooting. So far it looks as if you've got to unlock the bootloader of the Moto X via the moto dev site, then flash a rooted kernel. That won't translate to the Ultra because of the different kernel :/
I'm giving it the two weeks that the return policy is for root to arrive. If it isn't available by then I'll eat the $35 restock fee and get myself a 32GB S4 (and go through all the trouble again of transferring phones...). Tethering is far too important to be potentially stuck without it.
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So far it looks as if you've got to unlock the bootloader of the Moto X via the moto dev site, then flash a rooted kernel. That won't translate to the Ultra because of the different kernel :/
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Motorola doesn't offer a bootloader unlock for this phone, so we can't go that route yet. It will have to be a real exploit with temp root if /system modifications can't survive reboots.
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Root will end up coming. I believe the verizon moto x will be the same root method.
Unlocked, thats the million dollar question.
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Took like 9 months to unlock the Razr HD, but you have the potential help of the Moto X to speed things along (All carriers). Although I don't foresee many developers jumping on the Moto X bandwagon based on the specs. I dunno, it could go either way. Good luck to you all, I'm ditching my Razr HD for a G2
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Took like 9 months to unlock the Razr HD, but you have the potential help of the Moto X to speed things along (All carriers). Although I don't foresee many developers jumping on the Moto X bandwagon based on the specs. I dunno, it could go either way. Good luck to you all, I'm ditching my Razr HD for a G2
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Right now you have very, very little chance of getting a root. And about a bootloader unlock. I would more than likely guess that was a one time deal. So if you bought this and are waiting for a root/bootloader unlock. You are going to be disappointed.
I'm sure root will find its way. The unlocked boot loader makes me nervous though. I'm curious if something like safestrap will make its way to these phones. I'm still hoping that the combined attention of the four devices and the popularity of the moto x will get these devices an unlocked boot loader.
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These devices just came out. Please give it a little time and people will get cracking on the dev side.
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Right now you have very, very little chance of getting a root. And about a bootloader unlock. I would more than likely guess that was a one time deal. So if you bought this and are waiting for a root/bootloader unlock. You are going to be disappointed.
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A little off topic - think the One has a better chance? I know HTC isn't normally your wheelhouse, but with your connections and all...
Ignore the prompt to update for now, no matter how annoying it might be. Like someone else said, with so many devices sharing common architecture root is just a matter of time. Bootloaders are a different story.
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A little off topic - think the One has a better chance? I know HTC isn't normally your wheelhouse, but with your connections and all...
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it's hard to tell.
I have the s4 which I will dump soon, as I am about 99% sure unlock is not coming.
I am keeping my s3 though.
I also have the HTC One, I DO feel we will get unlock at the least, and hopefully S-OFF.
I usually give all my phones at least 6 months before moving on.
Thinking of going to buy the moto x just for kicks as I never own moto device and the X peeks my interest, I feel I could use it and toss it around and not have to worry about it and it can take it, compared to my HTC one that's like a watch (jewelery.)
Curious to play with the different software, HTC Sense is and always has been favorite, Touchwiz grew on me greatly, and want to check out this moto x. /I usually can't live without root, but I wouldn't be using the phone activated, just to have it.
i'm sure Root will be re shortly .
Hope in @djrbliss for root and bootloader exploit , he has hacked Razr HD bootloader here
Tweet him
I hope it does come but this phone will just be my backup phone for when I'm giving my S4 a breather, I took care of my S4 before that software update thankfully.
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I'm sure root will find its way. The unlocked boot loader makes me nervous though. I'm curious if something like safestrap will make its way to these phones. I'm still hoping that the combined attention of the four devices and the popularity of the moto x will get these devices an unlocked boot loader.
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Why are you so sure? There are a handful of people who have the ability to do root for this device, and afaik none of them "NONE" of them have expressed an interest to work on this.
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Ignore the prompt to update for now, no matter how annoying it might be. Like someone else said, with so many devices sharing common architecture root is just a matter of time. Bootloaders are a different story.
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there isnt any known exploits to patch so how would an update patch them?
wolfgart said:
i'm sure Root will be re shortly .
Hope in @djrbliss for root and bootloader exploit , he has hacked Razr HD bootloader here
Tweet him
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he said he was done with Moto after he unlocked the last generation razrs.
mbh87 said:
there isnt any known exploits to patch so how would an update patch them?
he said he was done with Moto after he unlocked the last generation razrs.
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There very well may be, but moto is not going to make that public in most cases. It's easier to patch in silence and not tip anyone off.
andybones said:
it's hard to tell.
I have the s4 which I will dump soon, as I am about 99% sure unlock is not coming.
I am keeping my s3 though.
I also have the HTC One, I DO feel we will get unlock at the least, and hopefully S-OFF.
I usually give all my phones at least 6 months before moving on.
Thinking of going to buy the moto x just for kicks as I never own moto device and the X peeks my interest, I feel I could use it and toss it around and not have to worry about it and it can take it, compared to my HTC one that's like a watch (jewelery.)
Curious to play with the different software, HTC Sense is and always has been favorite, Touchwiz grew on me greatly, and want to check out this moto x. /I usually can't live without root, but I wouldn't be using the phone activated, just to have it.
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Yeah the main thing keeping me holding onto this S4 is the fact it has MDK. Otherwise I generally am liking the One better now - though the S4 camera sure can take some great shots and tends to last a bit longer on the battery. The Maxx is pretty awesome... camera is mediocre, but better once you get used to its idiosyncrasies. It's basically pure Android, so if you love sense, you might be bored with it. But if there's any phone that hiccups less than the One, it's this one. Incredibly smooth and snappy experience. And obviously great battery life... Voice controls are pretty cool, too. Not perfect, but still pretty cool
ATTENTION: Discussion about this device has moved.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/zte-zmax-z970-guide-faq-discussion-t3053066
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I just came across this phone on T-Mobile's website, released earlier this week.
5.7" 720x1280 (258ppi) TFT screen
Quad core Snapdragon 400 1.2GHz, Adreno 305
2GB RAM
16GB built-in storage, microSD card up to 32GB
8MP camera, 1080p video
Android 4.4.2
LTE on band 4 and T-Mo's upcoming band 12 (and a couple other bands used by other companies in North America)
All for $252 off-contract (or $10.50/mo over 2 years).
I gotta say, I'm intrigued by this new phone. There's some obvious drawbacks/shortcuts; it's big for the screen size, the camera isn't fantastic, the screen is a bit dim/bland (according to a cnet review), no NFC, etc. But it's got a frugal, adequate processor with a big battery, runs a lightly skinned, nearly stock Android, has LTE (and T-Mo's LTE speeds here are amazing) and best of all, 2GB RAM, so it shouldn't lag or stutter.
I'm somewhat interested in this phone for myself, but I'll probably just wait to get a Nexus Shamu. But a friend (who's broke) of mine wants a bigass phone to watch Netflix on and play some games and emulators. Obviously the lowish pixel density is a drawback, but for what he'd use it for, it's perfectly fine.
For $252, this seems like an amazing bargain. Where else are you going to find a phablet with LTE at this price? But I'm not very familiar with ZTE. Build quality, longevity, software stability, updates, etc, are all in question for me.
Has anyone picked one up yet, or checked one out at a T-Mobile store? What have been your impressions on other ZTE devices?
Planterz said:
I just came across this phone on T-Mobile's website, released earlier this week.
5.7" 720x1280 (258ppi) TFT screen
Quad core Snapdragon 400 1.2GHz, Adreno 305
2GB RAM
16GB built-in storage, microSD card up to 32GB
8MP camera, 1080p video
Android 4.4.2
LTE on band 4 and T-Mo's upcoming band 12 (and a couple other bands used by other companies in North America)
All for $252 off-contract (or $10.50/mo over 2 years).
I gotta say, I'm intrigued by this new phone. There's some obvious drawbacks/shortcuts; it's big for the screen size, the camera isn't fantastic, the screen is a bit dim/bland (according to a cnet review), no NFC, etc. But it's got a frugal, adequate processor with a big battery, runs a lightly skinned, nearly stock Android, has LTE (and T-Mo's LTE speeds here are amazing) and best of all, 2GB RAM, so it shouldn't lag or stutter.
I'm somewhat interested in this phone for myself, but I'll probably just wait to get a Nexus Shamu. But a friend (who's broke) of mine wants a bigass phone to watch Netflix on and play some games and emulators. Obviously the lowish pixel density is a drawback, but for what he'd use it for, it's perfectly fine.
For $252, this seems like an amazing bargain. Where else are you going to find a phablet with LTE at this price? But I'm not very familiar with ZTE. Build quality, longevity, software stability, updates, etc, are all in question for me.
Has anyone picked one up yet, or checked one out at a T-Mobile store? What have been your impressions on other ZTE devices?
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I am receiving mine in the mail tomorrow. My main concern is how to root the darn thing. Ive heard that all ZTE phones ship with an unlocked bootloader, and i've hear they ship locked. Theres almost nothing development wise for this phone and i obviously understand it just came out, but it seems ZTE is not a developer friendly company. Can't even find anything developer related on ANY of their sites. I wonder if any of those 1 click root apks or scripts can root the damn thing. Only problem is, if it bricks, how do you fix?
Im curious is framaroot will work.
edit: nope.
JFigure said:
Im curious is framaroot will work.
edit: nope.
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So, you have this phone? What do you think of it?
Planterz said:
So, you have this phone? What do you think of it?
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for $250, you can't beat it.
It's about as fast as my nexus 5. Battery is *easy* 2 days. Build plastics are better than samsungs.
Zero bloat. 2 or 3 useful added apps, pretty much stock AOSP.
Screen is only 720p, but that's fine for most stuff.
JFigure said:
for $250, you can't beat it.
It's about as fast as my nexus 5. Battery is *easy* 2 days. Build plastics are better than samsungs.
Zero bloat. 2 or 3 useful added apps, pretty much stock AOSP.
Screen is only 720p, but that's fine for most stuff.
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Sorry to pester you with questions, but how about an Antutu test? The only review I've found is on CNET and they only did a Quadrant test.
Planterz said:
Sorry to pester you with questions, but how about an Antutu test? The only review I've found is on CNET and they only did a Quadrant test.
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I can do it by end of day tomorrow if nobody gets back to you sooner with results. Can you post a link to that review?
nikkdotcom said:
I can do it by end of day tomorrow if nobody gets back to you sooner with results. Can you post a link to that review?
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http://www.cnet.com/products/zte-zmax/
They give it 3/5 stars. CNET doesn't really weigh their review scores though, at least with the actual rating - you have to read the article to see if they say anything about good value for the money. On another site, for example, phonearena, they'd probably give it a higher score because they take into account the cost and the intended market (they give the Moto E and G 2013 a 9/10, higher than the Moto X's, because despite being lesser phones, they present better value).
So far, this is the only actual review (apart from "hands-on") from a proper website that I've found. There's a bunch of customer reviews already on T-Mobile's website, and it seems to be liked by all that have purchased it.
Has anyone managed to root this beast> I have had mine for a few days and I have tried several methods unsuccessfully. I am not anywhere near as good as some of the people on developing for android on XDA but I can follow directions when they are presented clearly. The one click route doesn't seem to work with this phone and the universal guide doesn't work either. ANyone have advice?
Planterz said:
http://www.cnet.com/products/zte-zmax/
They give it 3/5 stars. CNET doesn't really weigh their review scores though, at least with the actual rating - you have to read the article to see if they say anything about good value for the money. On another site, for example, phonearena, they'd probably give it a higher score because they take into account the cost and the intended market (they give the Moto E and G 2013 a 9/10, higher than the Moto X's, because despite being lesser phones, they present better value).
So far, this is the only actual review (apart from "hands-on") from a proper website that I've found. There's a bunch of customer reviews already on T-Mobile's website, and it seems to be liked by all that have purchased it.
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AnTuTu Benchmark V5.1 Results are in the pictures attached to this post. It did not score as well as i hoped, but for the price I paid i am still impressed.
stinkbud said:
Has anyone managed to root this beast> I have had mine for a few days and I have tried several methods unsuccessfully. I am not anywhere near as good as some of the people on developing for android on XDA but I can follow directions when they are presented clearly. The one click route doesn't seem to work with this phone and the universal guide doesn't work either. ANyone have advice?
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I have also tried several different root methods such as FramaRoot and TowelRoot. Neither has worked. I doubt anything is going to work but ill try a few more things and see where I get.
OK phone
Its an OK phone by far fat, fast and heavy. Charge cord that comes out of the box is way to short easy fix. Picky with cords if male cable is to long the tip won't sit in and come off.
When in bed due to connection location is hard to use, bottom left corner iterating spot.
Phone gets heavy after a while. Crashes here and there unexplained reasons.
However, its insanely fast. Never lagged apps just crash but phone keeps running.
Has 16 gb internal and 32 GB SD = actual memory shown. 40 GB total 11 internal and 29 SD (memory is not always actual). No battery change slot but this thing lasts all day through torture of games, watching movies and surf the web. Due to big size it does need more care. Since its so new its hard to find online cases or screen protectors for it. Had to go to the mall to get a customs made screen protector. Sound is good but not the best quality speaker around. Good phone just don't drop it or sit on it looks durable but since plastic feels like I can break it with my own hands in half. Definitely don't try the iPhone 6 bend test on this.
We need to find a adb root exploit since no apks out there yet that are compatible with this phone, unless geohot updates his good luck.
abelcustoms said:
We need to find a adb root exploit since no apks out there yet that are compatible with this phone, unless geohot updates his good luck.
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Yeah I tried geohot's towelroot. If he doesn't update it, the only luck we will have with that root tool is to edit the modstrings ourselves. Not going to lie, thats a little over my head/pay grade.
https://towelroot.com/modstrings.html
Rooted!
nikkdotcom said:
Yeah I tried geohot's towelroot. If he doesn't update it, the only luck we will have with that root tool is to edit the modstrings ourselves. Not going to lie, thats a little over my head/pay grade.
https://towelroot.com/modstrings.html
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Hi all, I like burritos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223
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Hi all, I like burritos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223
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OK, it *appears* that I have root but I'm not sure I actually do. It installed ChainsDD superuser and ask if I wanted to flash recovery (don't do that for sure...) But titanium and chainfire super su both say no root. Sorry!
Try looking up philz unified recovery. It has loki tool kit included if boot loader not unlocked. I believe he had for almost all devices already. With that you should be able to do more customization. I believe safestrap recovery another Option. If his bootloader is unlocked then he should be able to user any custom recovery he wants. Root exploit by hiikezoe,open1your1eyes0 ,DooMlorD,PWM978.. is a great Orion to gain root access for most devices.
SCH-I545 Galaxy S4 VRUAME7, XdA mobile app...
kevyreil said:
Hi all, I like burritos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223
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Im having a problem actually obtaining root. It tells me im rooted and superuser has been installed but i have no real root access and all my root checker app is telling me im not rooted. Can you verify your root status and also just give a brief run down of how you obtained it.
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Some root exploit utilities are calling this the ZTE (Draconis). Google search yields nothing for that.
I have tried so many rooting methods and exhausted Google. I don't know where to go from here.
kevyreil said:
Hi all, I like burritos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223
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OK, it *appears* that I have root but I'm not sure I actually do. It installed ChainsDD superuser and ask if I wanted to flash recovery (don't do that for sure...) But titanium and chainfire super su both say no root. Sorry!
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Its false Positive
ZTE Zmax runs Kitkat 4.4.2 you need su runs as daemon
burritos is for kindle fire ginger
Not rooted
nikkdotcom said:
Im having a problem actually obtaining root. It tells me im rooted and superuser has been installed but i have no real root access and all my root checker app is telling me im not rooted. Can you verify your root status and also just give a brief run down of how you obtained it.
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Some root exploit utilities are calling this the ZTE (Draconis). Google search yields nothing for that.
I have tried so many rooting methods and exhausted Google. I don't know where to go from here.
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Sorry all. As hoodred mentions it was a false positive. It did appear that things were working (and I got excited). You will definitely *not* get root with burrito3.
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Hi all, I like burritos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223
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OK, it *appears* that I have root but I'm not sure I actually do. It installed ChainsDD superuser and ask if I wanted to flash recovery (don't do that for sure...) But titanium and chainfire super su both say no root. Sorry!
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For future thread readers do *not* bother trying this it does *not* work.
How do we get a Forum set up for the ZTE ZMAX?
itsdmun said:
How do we get a Forum set up for the ZTE ZMAX?
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Make your voice heard in the new device forum requests thread. With enough need, the admins will get it done.