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Galaxy tab 2 7" VS galaxy tab 7 plus

Hello,
Have the opportunity to buy a 4 day old second hand galaxy plus for about the price of an galaxy tab 2. The specs on the 7 plus are the "plus" over the tab 2, but the plus still runs on honeycomb 3.0. My phone runs the ics and i'm very happy about ics.
Is the 7 plus a good investment, (will it get the ics one day), or would the tab 2 with the "lesser" specs would be the better buy in the dev support department?
Wich one should you choose over the other and why?
Thanks for the input,
Adam

Forgot to mention, it is the P6210 model (wifi + IR, no 3G).
Is it the same as the P6200 model for rooting the device? Is it possible to use a P6200 rom on the P6210? Am i correct that the p6200 has more dev support than the P6210?
This to keep the change on ics as open as possible.

crabe919 said:
Hello,
Have the opportunity to buy a 4 day old second hand galaxy plus for about the price of an galaxy tab 2. The specs on the 7 plus are the "plus" over the tab 2, but the plus still runs on honeycomb 3.0. My phone runs the ics and i'm very happy about ics.
Is the 7 plus a good investment, (will it get the ics one day), or would the tab 2 with the "lesser" specs would be the better buy in the dev support department?
Wich one should you choose over the other and why?
Thanks for the input,
Adam
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Wish I have gotten Tab 2! I don't see there much hype about Tab Plus here in XDA
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maruf010 said:
Wish I have gotten Tab 2! I don't see there much hype about Tab Plus here in XDA
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The only hype I've seen from the Tab 2 is the cheap price. 8GB with roughly 4GB free is a joke. Not to mention VGA front camera, less HP and unusable SD storage because of ICS. Great Deal!

mcfanman said:
The only hype I've seen from the Tab 2 is the cheap price. 8GB with roughly 4GB free is a joke. Not to mention VGA front camera, less HP and unusable SD storage because of ICS. Great Deal!
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Thank you. The biggest thing about this forum is that there are PLENTY of users that are happy, XDA is just where the whiners come out in force.
The Plus is far and away a better device, and the ICS bruhaha is simply temporary.

robyr said:
Thank you. The biggest thing about this forum is that there are PLENTY of users that are happy, XDA is just where the whiners come out in force.
The Plus is far and away a better device, and the ICS bruhaha is simply temporary.
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+1

+1 for the Tab 7 plus which I bought.
Far better specs than the Tab2 IMHO . the Exynos processor is great. Agree with the comments on the remaning space left onthe Tab2. 2M front camera on the plus is actually pretty good in comparison.
Just watch out for wifi. On tab plus a few folks have had issues with wifi (me included, but only @ work, so less of an issue for me) no idea whether that's fixed on the ICS build for the Tab 2, but poss something to think about.
I'd still go for the Tab 7 Plus personally.

still undecided, but thanks for the input!
maybe ill jump to an 10" instead

crabe919 said:
still undecided, but thanks for the input!
maybe ill jump to an 10" instead
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Check out the GT 8.9 if you get a chance, also very solid!
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The GTab 2 has an OMAP 4430 which is also used in Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. I have the Kindle Fire which is a decent performer, but in terms of graphics performance, the GTab Plus with Exynos chip and Mali400 GPU really blows the SGX 540 @ 300 MHz of the OMAP 4430 away.
Yes they both play 1080p videos smoothly - downloaded H.264 or DIVX videos, or Adobe Flash in the browser (NOT through youtube app). However, GTab+ has superior browser experience - webpages load much quicker (eg. website pictures and text are ready for viewing much earlier when it is waiting for Adobe flash ads to load). Drag to view different parts of the webpage and pinch-zooming is buttery smooth in the GTab+ and stuttery in the Kindle Fire. Maybe it cannot all be blamed on the processor - maybe Honeycomb on the GTab+ helps because KF has Gingerbread. I am not into games but I expect the GTab+ should also perform better than the OMAP4430.
IMO, it is worth spending $50 more for the GTab+ than the GTab2 (yes I waited for the price drop to buy my GTab+)

Is this 3G?

Hey guys, does this have 3G capability, how can I tell if it does, is it another model?
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TF700T-C...228&sr=8-3&keywords=asus+transformer+infinity
Also do you suggest me to look at another tablet before this?
Thanks!

Ruzzah said:
Hey guys, does this have 3G capability, how can I tell if it does, is it another model?
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TF700T-C...228&sr=8-3&keywords=asus+transformer+infinity
Also do you suggest me to look at another tablet before this?
Thanks!
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No, it is not 3g or 4g. If it was it would say so in the description.

Ruzzah said:
Hey guys, does this have 3G capability, how can I tell if it does, is it another model?
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TF700T-C...228&sr=8-3&keywords=asus+transformer+infinity
Also do you suggest me to look at another tablet before this?
Thanks!
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Nope, no 3g. It's a 64gb model (more problem). I suggest you to get a 32gb model ( a lot cheaper) if you decided to go with Asus transformer Infinity. If you want a smooth working table try the Galaxy tab 10.1, this one will have lower resolution screen + less bell and whistles than the Asus.

No 16gb Infinity
buhohitr said:
Nope, no 3g. It's a 64gig model (more problem). I suggest you to get a 16gig model ( a lot cheaper) if you decided to go with Asus transformer Infinity. If you want a smooth working table try the Galaxy tab 10.1, this one will have lower resolution screen + less bell and whistles than the Asus.
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FYI, the Infinity comes in 32gb and 64gb, not 16gb. My 32gb Infinity works fine. No lags, or other issues.
It walks my dogs, makes coffee for me, gives me recommendations for the best stocks. I've made millions in the last month thanks to my Infinity. (Obviously the previous two sentences are complete fabrications).
Seriously, its a great tablet with an awesome screen.

Thanks, I'm looking for a tablet that will play games really well, and give me a relatively long battery life when just browsing internet or such, I was comparing this to the Galaxy Note 10.1, however the specs of this has made me change my mind completely, as it's much more faster too.
I can't seem to find a 16GB model that you have mentioned,only seeing a 32GB and 64GB
Thank you for your quick responses guys!

Ruzzah said:
Thanks, I'm looking for a tablet that will play games really well, and give me a relatively long battery life when just browsing internet or such, I was comparing this to the Galaxy Note 10.1, however the specs of this has made me change my mind completely, as it's much more faster too.
I can't seem to find a 16GB model that you have mentioned,only seeing a 32GB and 64GB
Thank you for your quick responses guys!
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Sorry, it's my typo, there is no 16gb. Only 32gb and 64gb. Get the 32gb. This device can hook up to your external usb hard drive where you will have plenty of storage space.

Is amazon a good place to buy this, because I live in Australia and I'd probably end up paying $800 for this tablet which is around $488

Ruzzah said:
Is amazon a good place to buy this, because I live in Australia and I'd probably end up paying $800 for this tablet which is around $488
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Do you have Best Buy in Australia??

buhohitr said:
Do you have Best Buy in Australia??
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No we don't.
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It's simple to see:
TF700T = Wifi only
TF700KL = 3G/4G LTE
If you want both 3G and gaming, you're not going to find it. The 3G variant comes with the Snapdragon Dual core, NOT the Nvidia Tegra 3 Quad core (which is for gaming).
Asus site:
Qualcomm® MSM 8260A Snapdragon™ S4 Krait Dual-core 1.5Ghz CPU (3G )
NVIDIA® Tegra® 3 Quad-core [email protected] 1.6GHz (WIFI)

ShadowLea said:
It's simple to see:
TF700T = Wifi only
TF700KL = 3G/4G LTE
If you want both 3G and gaming, you're not going to find it. The 3G variant comes with the Snapdragon Dual core, NOT the Nvidia Tegra 3 Quad core (which is for gaming).
Asus site:
Qualcomm® MSM 8260A Snapdragon™ S4 Krait Dual-core 1.5Ghz CPU (3G )
NVIDIA® Tegra® 3 Quad-core [email protected] 1.6GHz (WIFI)
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Nah no worries man, the only reason I wanted to see if it was 3G is so I can find a cheaper version, I can't afford to pay another $50 for only 1GB of bandwidth per month here, it's just not on.
Thanks though.

I am done testing Ainol's products

The content of the original thread is cleared.
I used to be quite a fan of Ainol, but it seems that their main focus at the moment is to bring lots of "earth trash" products to the market. And they don't respect honest reviews, all they want is for testers to advertise their products. And I don't write that kind of articles.
Here is my announcement: There will be no more reviews of Ainol products from me, and I wish them all the happiness in the world with the crappy so-called quad core ATM7029 SoC! devil):devil):devil):devil):

Thanks for the review. I was looking to buy a Chinese (with English Language) quad core tablet for my younger sister, maybe 10". Can you recommend any?

Re: In Depth Review of Ainol NOVO7 Venus Quad Core Tablet
ermacwins said:
Thanks for the review. I was looking to buy a Chinese (with English Language) quad core tablet for my younger sister, maybe 10". Can you recommend any?
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I would suggest pipo m9.
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Any custom ROM now?

I bought an Ainol Novo 7 Venus (Myth) and was a bit disappointed at first because the initial ROM (20130110) made the device a bit laggy. I updated it to the newest ROM / Firmware available (20130203) and was then quite surprised. The device became much snappier and has practically no more lags. Another goodie was, that all the preinstalled chinese Apps where gone after the update (You could also remove em by hand with the Root Explorer App. They are located in System/Vendor/App).
So for anyone buying this device, have a look at the firmware version (Settings>About this tablet>Build-Number). If it is older that 2013.02.03 V1, you should try to update it. This is not the easiest task to do, but its really worth it.
You'll find all infos or links to informations/ROMS/Tools here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2140304
rgds, d

Yup - just to concur with degon, the 0203 firmware makes the Venus substantially better. if you wind up with one, definitely install it.

Re: In Depth Review of Ainol NOVO7 Venus Quad Core Tablet
Just bought the item.
I agree with all said but i would add that wifi is really what disappointed me most because i found no fix for that. It is fortunate that i can use my phone as a hotspot.
I could cure the lag problems by adjusting the cpu lowest frequency with an app. I guess at the cost of battery life.
The tablet wasn't for me so i have no regret. It will fit the needs of the real owner though.
So far it is a good tablet but the best. And i just hope a firmware update will improve the wifi.
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i already use it.. it good tablet although the price is very cheap.. as usual, it have a weakness and strength, the weakness first, it not a very powerful cpu inside it, and also the GPU is not make for the hard graphic game.. if u play a game for so long time it will hang a little bit. but just that. the best part is the battery. it can last myb 8 hour playing game+browsing.but the time it take to charge is take myb 4 hour because of the capasity of the battery.. playing video or movie is best ever. it very clear and smooth. game that suitable for this tablet is air attack HD, castle master, Hawx HD, GTA 3, kingdom at war, Myth defense, NOVA, NFS most wanted, Riptide GP, Sailboat, Samurai 2 vengence,snow board, Subway surf, Simphony of origin, Team Dragon, Temple run 2, the last defender, undead slayer, and zenonias 5. for browsing, it good because the response is fast, no problem in scrolling the page, super fast.

This was released in the Philippines recently as the Cherry Bolt. Similar comments.Cost less than 100 US. The ROM of this unit was also a little buggy and people were told they could install the Ainol NOVO 7 venus rom.

WIFI seems to be turning itself automatically whenever i turn off the screen/put the tablet on standby.
Any way to disable this as I am having hardtime downloading apps due to this.

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wajih2k said:
WIFI seems to be turning itself automatically whenever i turn off the screen/put the tablet on standby.
Any way to disable this as I am having hardtime downloading apps due to this.
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Go into Settings, click on WiFi, then click the menu icon at the top-right. Click Advanced, then click on WiFi sleep policy and choose never.

firtvid20 said:
Go into Settings, click on WiFi, then click the menu icon at the top-right. Click Advanced, then click on WiFi sleep policy and choose never.
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Thanks!:good:

Several sites report the Ainol Novo Venus Myth as having Mali400 graphics. I haven't seen conclusively if this true or false. Also what is a good dual-core rockchip3066/mali400 7" tablet? Would like front/back cameras & GPS, don't think any had those features.

[ROM Release] [0408 firmware update 4.2.2]
[ROM Release] [0408 firmware update 4.2.2]
Novo7 myth quad-core 0407V1 Edition: http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=341968&uk=420337580
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[ROM Release] 4.1.1 firmware 0328 quite stable than 4.2.2 firmware 0408
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=317203&uk=420337580 :good:

I was looking at getting one of these but going by the review it would seem a dual core RK3066 Cortex A9 tablet would be better all round,correct?
For eg I was looking at the Nextway F7,which has the dual core RK3066 A9 processor.
Would I be better off with that than the Novo?
My use would be like most,web browsing,youtube and some gaming.
Surely the Novo cant be that bad? But like I said,the dual core processor according to the review here is indeed better than this particular quad core model then?

=Oberon= said:
I was looking at getting one of these but going by the review it would seem a dual core RK3066 Cortex A9 tablet would be better all round,correct?
For eg I was looking at the Nextway F7,which has the dual core RK3066 A9 processor.
Would I be better off with that than the Novo?
My use would be like most,web browsing,youtube and some gaming.
Surely the Novo cant be that bad? But like I said,the dual core processor according to the review here is indeed better than this particular quad core model then?
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If u want a rk3066 tablet， maybe pipo will be a better choice of brand than nextway. Ainol has probably the best build quality of all chinese tablet brands， but the atm7029 in the venus is definitely the worst quad core soc.
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jpconard said:
Several sites report the Ainol Novo Venus Myth as having Mali400 graphics. I haven't seen conclusively if this true or false. Also what is a good dual-core rockchip3066/mali400 7" tablet? Would like front/back cameras & GPS, don't think any had those features.
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The GPU of the Venus is actually GC1000+，which is an update from the GC800 GPU once used in Rockchip RK2918. The Venus has both front facing and rear cameras， but no GPS.
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greenacres said:
This was released in the Philippines recently as the Cherry Bolt. Similar comments.Cost less than 100 US. The ROM of this unit was also a little buggy and people were told they could install the Ainol NOVO 7 venus rom.
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Is it also a product by Ainol?
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jupiter2012 said:
If u want a rk3066 tablet， maybe pipo will be a better choice of brand than nextway. Ainol has probably the best build quality of all chinese tablet brands， but the atm7029 in the venus is definitely the worst quad core soc.
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Well then I wont worry about the Novo Venus then I think.Ill stick with a Dual Core RK3066 tablet.
With regards to the Pipo and Nextway,I did check out the Pipo,both have similar specs for the around the same price but the Nextway has 16GB internal and the Pipo 8GB. I know either can accept a micro SD card but this is really no help for installing apps/games. Thats where the 16GB of the Nextway would be better.

Good review, made up my mind!

[Q] a special edition of N8010?

Recently I found a special edition of n8010 called engerneering edition or something,
It differs from the general n8010,it has a exynos 4410 dual-core CPU and only 1g ram.
(general edition has exynos 4412,Quad-core CPU and 2g ram, else are the same)
Now it has a system of android 4.0.3,every ROM for general n8010 dosen't work on this one.(A poor guy has tried this,and,thanks th him~!)
so I wanna know if I'd use android 4.0.4 or higher version,how?
Is it easy for ROM modifing?
Well,plz ignore my poor English~~

Smells like a Fake or Clone to me .

JJEgan said:
Smells like a Fake or Clone to me .
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Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power. There were huge issues with its speed. I think it might have been sold to one test market or maybe just there testers. Anyway samsung then decided to NOT sell the device. The upgraded the cpu ram and a used faster memory and that is the one that we all have .
I do not remember all of the details but the above could be somewhat incorrect. I DO know there was a dual core 1 gb version that never made it to mass production . So that note seems to be one of them

erica_renee said:
Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power. There were huge issues with its speed. I think it might have been sold to one test market or maybe just there testers. Anyway samsung then decided to NOT sell the device. The upgraded the cpu ram and a used faster memory and that is the one that we all have .
I do not remember all of the details but the above could be somewhat incorrect. I DO know there was a dual core 1 gb version that never made it to mass production . So that note seems to be one of them
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Well,one of them I know,is reselled electronic waste with a terrible shell.So I think it almost impossible to be a fake one.
The one with perfect shell is about 180 USD,or 1100 rmb.

erica_renee said:
Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power. There were huge issues with its speed. I think it might have been sold to one test market or maybe just there testers. Anyway samsung then decided to NOT sell the device. The upgraded the cpu ram and a used faster memory and that is the one that we all have .
I do not remember all of the details but the above could be somewhat incorrect. I DO know there was a dual core 1 gb version that never made it to mass production . So that note seems to be one of them
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Yes that's it.The seller told me the same thing.He said that They're exactly for test use,and he got them by some ways.
If ROM modifing for specified CPU is easy,maybe I'll consider to get one~

May this pic help you.

erica_renee said:
Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power
I read it as a bought product .
But yes there have always been test products floating around or Sales Demo models .
The kernel on this one suggests it is one of the test jobs .
Multiple users bought S3 demo model that had no network .
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JJEgan said:
erica_renee said:
Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power
I read it as a bought product .
But yes there have always been test products floating around or Sales Demo models .
The kernel on this one suggests it is one of the test jobs .
Multiple users bought S3 demo model that had no network .
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I bought a Nexus7 II just now,happying~
I love Google! I love ASUS~~
Well,it's not cheap for that version of N8010,even if it's real.
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Need some spec clarification

This is regarding the Samsung galaxy Tab 4 7.0
there are 2 variant of this
Samsung SM-T231
Samsung SM-T235
(unable to post gsmarena links due limitations)
Im more concerned about the gpus Vivante GC1000 and mali-400mp4
4g dosnt really matter since i will be using wifi
Which is better for gaming or just overall performance ? (i know this is not a high end device)
Usually games like bravefrontier, phantom of the kill, emulators (gba, snes and psp if possible)
i was able to use the SMT230 version felt fluid on the surface
is the lg g pad 8.3 worth getting even if its a bit more pricey than this (not really a fan of the UI as well) ?
thank you in advance

Dont go for both of them.. i got a mali 400 GPu its shi.... get some more money and buy a better one whit snapdragon

The Tab 4 is, like its predecessors, a low-end product. Low specs. Do not waste your money on it.
Mali (and Exynos) isn't suited for gaming, the other even less so.
Go for something with a Snapdragon&Adreno combination. Like the 4G editions of the Tab S or Tab Pro tablets. (Yes, more expensive. With good reason...)
Send From My Galaxy NotePro 12.2 LTE Black

You will find lots of opinions in our dedicated "What should I buy" thread here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
I will close this one. Ask in that thread and you'll find advice. :good:
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