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[PROJ] Overclocking the Adreno GPU on Snapdragon Devices

I already posted this in the Nexus dev forum, and I hate to clutter the boards, but I know that there are a bunch of talented devs here that may not see it on those forums. If we can bust the 30fps cap for good, and get the GPU overclocked, then we could see some serious gaming performance out of our Snapdragon devices.
I'm sure we all heard about being able to overclock the GPU on some of the old MSM devices, but the Snapdragon handles the graphics chip in a different way. The goal of this thread is to try and overclock the GPU on Snapdragon devices as well.
There is nothing GPU related in acpuclock-scorpion.c (the Snapdragon cpu clock settings) at least for setting gpu clock speed as far as I can tell.
In board-mahimahi.c (Nexus board file) and board-supersonic.c (Evo board file) there is some kgsl init code, but so far as I can tell it isn't setting the clock there, instead it seems to be pointing to PWR_RAIL_GRP_CLK to set the clock in both devices. It defines the variable in each of those files but I'm not sure where that variable is set, since it doesn't seem to be in any of the other board files as far as I can tell. I could be completely off here too though.
In drivers/video/msm/gpu/kgsl/kgsl.c there is a method called kgsl_clk_enable that seems to be called whenever the GPU is enabled. It looks like this:
Code:
/* the hw and clk enable/disable funcs must be either called from softirq or
* with mutex held */
static void kgsl_clk_enable(void)
{
//clk_set_rate(kgsl_driver.ebi1_clk, 128000000);
clk_set_rate(kgsl_driver.ebi1_clk, 245000000); // Looks like it sets the GPU clock, right? Wrong.
clk_enable(kgsl_driver.imem_clk); // Enable the clock
clk_enable(kgsl_driver.grp_clk); // Enable another clock, but why?
}
The line that's been commented out is the original value, I replaced it with my value on the line below it in a failed attempt to overclock it. Probably a stupid effort on my part, I doubt it's that simple, but it was worth a shot. The comments at the end of the line are also my additions.
According to the clk.h files in the standard linux kernel, clk_set_rate is obviously a method to set the clock rate. The first variable is a struct that tells it which clock to set, and the second variable is a long value that is the rate you want it set at. Is it setting the right clock there for Snapdragon chips? Or is it only the clock for older chips?
I'm in way over my head with this source, I'm but a lowly Java dev, but I really wanna solve this. Can anyone with a little more experience than me throw in a little more info? Sorry if it doesn't make much sense, if it isn't clear just ask me & I'll try to explain a little more.
Regards,
Jesse C.
EDIT: Okay I did a little more digging and those kgsl settings should work for QSD8x50 chips. In the config file, under Drivers, Graphics Support, it allows you to enable 3D accelleration for QSD8x50 & MSM7x27 chips. The tag for that is CONFIG_MSM_KGSL_MMU. If you check in kgsl.c it checks to see if that is enabled in the config, and if it is then it compiles and uses kgsl.c & all of the kgsl code. That tells me that the clock is either not being set, or the wrong clock is being set. I'm adding some debug code right now so I can see in dmesg what code is actually being run.

Dude I have no idea how to do this but bump and best of luck
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Isn't this Helping ? http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/kernel.git;a=blobdiff;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-7x00.c;h=ef178abfcd46cf78dd47962d75298691f887ebf2;hp=d68fea09d1996daeff99365ced9785d65b1cb001;hb=23ff83048726252bc785699fc749a3e364a3bdb0;hpb=110e73c591db3fd23d8558659f8a6a0dfe5ba912
It looks like here he sets the clock writel(grp,MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE+0x84); 0x84
And here is the Orginal topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673..

fstluxe said:
Isn't this Helping ? http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/kernel.git;a=blobdiff;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-7x00.c;h=ef178abfcd46cf78dd47962d75298691f887ebf2;hp=d68fea09d1996daeff99365ced9785d65b1cb001;hb=23ff83048726252bc785699fc749a3e364a3bdb0;hpb=110e73c591db3fd23d8558659f8a6a0dfe5ba912
It looks like here he sets the clock writel(grp,MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE+0x84); 0x84
And here is the Orginal topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673..
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Yeah I saw that, but that won't work for us, because it is for one of the old MSM7500 chips instead of the new QSD chips we have in Snapdragon devices.
I am working on a few things now and I recommend you check the Nexus forum since that thread is a lot more active.

Geniusdog254 said:
Yeah I saw that, but that won't work for us, because it is for one of the old MSM7500 chips instead of the new QSD chips we have in Snapdragon devices.
I am working on a few things now and I recommend you check the Nexus forum since that thread is a lot more active.
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okey, But as far as I know that code is not standard... Becouse the Vugue msm7500 device is originally WM device.. so the Smart dzo managed this custom code.
I wil follow the nexus form .. This is Damn interesting !

i wish you guys the best of luck..wish i could help..i love xda..lol

I'm going to bump this, would be nice if more people were working on this.

Man... I absolutely love my phone. It really sux that this even needs to be asked. This device is so much more capable and I cannot understand why HTC would cripple it so badly. Look at the Samsung galaxy s or the Droid x. Or even a more similar phone like the nexus or incredible. They all stomp this phone when it comes to anything graphics wise even if it is just swiping home screens. It makes me sad. Lol

I love how it makes you sad, but you still lol. Lol (correctly placed)
This is big but first let's get a true cap fix!
Sent from my Evo 4G

How is there such little interest in this subject? This intergrated gpu will probably overclock like a beast... and maybe we can get actual fps.

jigglywiggly said:
How is there such little interest in this subject? This intergrated gpu will probably overclock like a beast... and maybe we can get actual fps.
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I'm thinking this is also one of those things awaiting source. Even the overclocked kernals make my phone reset so I'm waiting for a more stable release myself. Since you're still posting here does that mean you decided to keep your evo?

psych2l said:
I'm thinking this is also one of those things awaiting source. Even the overclocked kernals make my phone reset so I'm waiting for a more stable release myself. Since you're still posting here does that mean you decided to keep your evo?
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I don't know, yet I am in deep havoc lol. I activated my phone on the 20th. I have till 13th of July to pay my bill, so don't know.
I mean the locked bootloader of the Droid X is kind of lame. Also on the Evo, I have a 10$ discount because of the IO conference... unlimited texts too, and I bought two batteries for it with a charger(for 10$ lol, and they actually last a long time 1500ma, I put the 2 extras in my wallet)
Also I think I can upgrade my phone right away already if I read things right, so if Sprint gets an awesome phone I can upgrade to that whenever.
Verizon is more expensive, but I like how they let me do a 1 year contract. The Droid X is also nicer, I mean it has a better camera, and the mic quality when taking videos isn't piss, hopefully someone fixes that. It also has a real graphics card.
So yeah, it's hard to decide. A better phone, vs saving me some money. Though I plan to attend the IO conference once again. I'm still porting my distrubuted prime client onto Android, hopefully it will be high performance. So it's not like I just go there for a phone ^^. Hell I didn't even know about the phones till they said "Where do you want the Droid delivered" I lol'd. Though my time is limited, summer classes at UC Berkeley are tough : /

jigglywiggly said:
How is there such little interest in this subject? This intergrated gpu will probably overclock like a beast... and maybe we can get actual fps.
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Yep, looks like til we get the kernel in our hands they're tied.
Also what's the point of overclocking if their is still a limit on FPS..
Eventually this will be the next thing on our todo list

some of the source for the OpenGL ES GPU core was announced as being released today
Qualcomm releases open-source 3D Snapdragon driver
http://www.androidcentral.com/qualcomm-releases-open-source-3d-snapdragon-driver
havent looked at it yet, but im sure in the very least this should at least help shed some more light on overclocking the GPU and add another piece to the puzzle!
git location -
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...b819424af4be;hb=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.32

topdnbass said:
Yep, looks like til we get the kernel in our hands they're tied.
Also what's the point of overclocking if their is still a limit on FPS..
Eventually this will be the next thing on our todo list
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There isn't really a fps cap with the novatek kernel hack. It made the display much smoother for me and I am using it on EvolutionX. So beast.
Good news about the drivers, maybe we can actually see some overclocking now.

I want this to happen!
Nova runs pretty well on the Evo. Gameloft updated it recently.
I would just like for iphone ports to run well.
I hear the Palm Pixi has the same GPU. It is clocked at 190mhz. What about the Evo?

patelkedar91 said:
I hear the Palm Pixi has the same GPU. It is clocked at 190mhz. What about the Evo?
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The Pixi doesn't have the same GPU, it has one of the low/mid-range MSM7227 (I think thats the model?) chips. It's similar as it's one of Qualcomms latest gen chips, but it is NOT a Snapdragon so it's different.
Also, the Snapdragon GPU's on HTC devices are clocked as follows:
GRP_CLK: The actual graphics clock, 256mhz
IMEM_CLK: The gpu memory clock, 256mhz
EBI1_CLK: As best I can tell, the bus that the GPU is on is EBI1, this is the clock for it, 128mhz
If you want more info, look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710850 since that thread is a lot more active, but please don't clutter it, there's actual devving going on there

Thanks for the info. I just wonder how they're going to get 3d games to work on the Pixi then... weird.
It was announced that the Pixi would get 3d gaming with the 1.4.5 update.

Much better (Y)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ck-overclocking-tuning-snapdragon-s1-t2883708

sensation performance / aSMP info needed please

Hi,
i recently return my samsung (4th time) galaxy s2 becouse of various defects , i been looking at the sensation however i have a few questions , firstly for all its issues i like how fast and responsive the galaxay was however when i tryed the sensation i noticed its not as smooth as the galaxy or that much smoother then the desire hd.
One possible reason for this i noticed was that the sensation uses a asmp cpu , which seems a bit cheeky to me. I mean im buying a dual core phone so i would like both cores to work at the same time as opposed to one working then the second kicking in when the first is loaded. From what ive read ics should have better support for this setup , so i was curious does anyone think we will see that much of a difference bearing in mind the sensation is asmp.
I notice there`s a lot of talented devs from the desire development and hd which is encouraging so i was hoping to learn from various users how much of a performance increase there seeing in custom roms ie is the browser jerky like stock ??
Appreciate any / all feedback thank you

I'm interested in some more more info on this topic as well.....
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium

Read up!
ok so aSMP doesn't really work in the method of core 0 gets loaded then core 1 kicks in, thats way off.
basically SMP cpus like Tegra and Samsung's both cores run at the same speed, so core 1 follows core 0. This doesn't mean that core 1 is actually processing anything. In most cases due to gingerbread the phone is still mainly running on one core unless the app supports multicore.
aSMP allows the cores to run completely independent. This is great for battery life. Core 0 can do things like play games and stuff at full speed while core 1 handles background data.
so playing angry birds while syncing photos on flickr:
core 0 could be running at full 1.5Ghz
core 1 could be running at 500Mhz just do handle the syncing
This is basically the idea. We will get better support with ICS for full and proper support for multiple cores and the kernels will only get better as devs learn.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233103

Hi,
Thank you for you detailed reply ive been following the thread you posted which is what led me to posting question here , i obviously misunderstood what was being said. That being said im no expert but if i buy a dual core phone id rather have both cores committed to one task like pc ... this is one of the things thats making me hold back on sensation. Althougth its a great phone with great ui and fantastic potential with future updates and dev support to the touch at present the galaxy s2 just seems smoother with the way its doing thing.
As i say thou im not expert i can appreciate theres other factor to take into account such as kernal etc, im just going with hands on usage and trying to evaluate the future potential for both devices before making a decision to which i should choose

tonnytech said:
Hi,
Thank you for you detailed reply ive been following the thread you posted which is what led me to posting question here , i obviously misunderstood what was being said. That being said im no expert but if i buy a dual core phone id rather have both cores committed to one task like pc ... this is one of the things thats making me hold back on sensation. Althougth its a great phone with great ui and fantastic potential with future updates and dev support to the touch at present the galaxy s2 just seems smoother with the way its doing thing.
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The sensation's CPU works in a much more power efficient way, while still offering the speed of any other dual core CPU. It allows different clock speeds for different cores so applications using only a single core will be able to clock it differently to those using the other in the background. Computers, especially laptops work in a similar way, as there is a need for power efficiency. Realistically the Galaxy SII runs smoother due to it running a much less resource hungry skin on top of android, but both the CPU of the sensation and the Galaxy SII are both of a similar calibre, so it is very difficult to say which is better.

again thanks for the reply , defintly understand how this asmp buisness works more now which has given me some stuff to think about

tonnytech said:
Hi,
Thank you for you detailed reply ive been following the thread you posted which is what led me to posting question here , i obviously misunderstood what was being said. That being said im no expert but if i buy a dual core phone id rather have both cores committed to one task like pc ... this is one of the things thats making me hold back on sensation. Althougth its a great phone with great ui and fantastic potential with future updates and dev support to the touch at present the galaxy s2 just seems smoother with the way its doing thing.
As i say thou im not expert i can appreciate theres other factor to take into account such as kernal etc, im just going with hands on usage and trying to evaluate the future potential for both devices before making a decision to which i should choose
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Neither architecture, SMP or aSMP, will commit both cores to one task unless the app is multithreaded and it currently needs the use of both cores. This is the same way that multicore pc's operate. That's why when quad core CPU's first came out people said that they didn't feel any faster than comparable dual core chips - most existing apps at that time were written for single or dual threaded use so the third and fourth cores largely sat unused. The pc doesn't just force the use of the extra cores just because they are there (regardless of how they scale, aSMP or SMP).
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Also the new firmware has made it smoother due to extra optimisations. Web browser is not as good as the galaxy S 2 due that being GPU accelerated. Power wise the Sensation you will get somewhat more out of your battery life wise.

hardensm said:
Realistically the Galaxy SII runs smoother due to it running a much less resource hungry skin on top of android, but both the CPU of the sensation and the Galaxy SII are both of a similar calibre, so it is very difficult to say which is better.
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If you look at my thread and see the post:
MSM8x60:
Adreno 220 GPU
2x Cortex A8 Based Cores
512KB L2 Cache
45nm
upto 333Mhz LPDDR2
Exynos 4210:
Mali 400 GPU
2x Cortex A9 Based Cores
1MB L2 Cache
45nm
support for LPDDR2/DDR3
Tegra 2:
ULP Geforce GPU
2x Cortex A9 Based Cores
1MB L2 Cache
40nm
support for 600Mhz LPDDR2
So the biggest thing is is that the Exynos is based on a new core micro-arch then the Snapdragon 2, also it has the ability to support DDR3 memory. To go into more detail about ARM Cortex.
Items that A8 and A9 have in common:
Jazelle RCT for JIT Compilation
Neon SIMD Instruction Set (Optional)
Thumb2 Instruction set
VFPv3 Floating Point Unit (Optional)
Cortex A8:
Superscalar Dual-Issue Micro-Arch
2.0 DMIPS/Mhz
Cortex A9:
Out-Of-Order Superscalar Micro-Arch
2.5 DMIPS/Mhz
Jazelle DBX for Java Execution
Dual-Core Processing Built In
The SGSII has a new generation architecture as so does the Tegra

This thread is iteresting. I want to continue that.
my cpu0 and cpu1 arrive at 1,7 ghz. so cpu1 doesnt arrive up to 500 mhz

Exynos UI Snappier than S600 or placebo effect?

After seeing dozens of vids i started to notice in Russians vids (Exynos Version) UI transitions seems to be more snappier than vids using S600 version.
In russians vids all in S4 seems pretty smooth and fast (like here and other vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ymXQHSxOh4).
In s600 vids seemed to me have seen something clawing here and there.
Someone more have notice this or is just a placebo effect i have.
Thx.
I'm dying to see 2 versions face to face.
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Placebo it's probably using the a7s anyway when UI browsing
S4 INFO

TingTingin said:
Placebo it's probably using the a7s anyway when UI browsing
S4 INFO
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That may be true, but the GPU is more power full so it could be faster due to that. I don't know, they both look good to me.

Also dont know, as i said after seeing many videos I found myself looking preferably Russians videos because what i saw in their S4 screens looks better to me than no Russians vids, although in beginning didnt associated they use Exynos version.
I hope is placebo effect because here we only have S600 version....arrhhhh SAM.

wish it could've been subtitled. I couldn't understand at all.
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It's possible. Neither has the final SW out and Samsung has been working on the Exynos version before they realized they'll need the Snapdragon to meet all the demand. How quickly they managed to adapt with all features to a different SoC only means they'll improve it further upon launch and then some, but I can't say I've seen any lag on either version in videos.
The only thing's bothering me is the home button lag cause it waits for double input, can you turn it off?
Also, is there a way to make AirView pop-ups instantaneous like mouse hover instead of waiting a second over the content?

BoneXDA said:
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The only thing's bothering me is the home button lag cause it waits for double input, can you turn it off?
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Yes, atleast on the s3 you can disable home button for S-voice

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my fault.

pack21 said:
Rude and unhelpful, when i dont understand what someone is trying to say i dont do such kind of comment.
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I don't think there was any intent to be rude in his statement. There is a beta caption translator built into YouTube which gives you a rough idea what he is saying if you enable it.
Still delaying my preorder/early upgrade because of this (although most likely placebo) and other reasons. Really hope the i9500 someone makes it here to the UK so I can get rid of my temp-phone BlackBerry! :crying:

darrendm said:
I don't think there was any intent to be rude in his statement. There is a beta caption translator built into YouTube which gives you a rough idea what he is saying if you enable it.
Still delaying my preorder/early upgrade because of this (although most likely placebo) and other reasons. Really hope the i9500 someone makes it here to the UK so I can get rid of my temp-phone BlackBerry! :crying:
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Thanks, I hadn't realized that.
At first glance it seemed to be referring to my post, @emylia777 might have added that was referred to youtube vid.
@emylia777, In that case i apologize.

4ktvs said:
That may be true, but the GPU is more power full so it could be faster due to that. I don't know, they both look good to me.
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The Adreno 320 should be similar performance to the SGX544MP3 on the Exynos. Both of the chips GPU are clocked higher than stock, we know the SGX544MP3 is at 533Mhz. Plus in theory the Adreno 320 still should perform better due to better intergration in the GPU. The Adreno 320 has more to offer than the SGX544MP3 in the long run such as OpenGL 3.0 and Open CL 1.0, which should make the UI smoother.
Anyways, I won't be surprised in the Exynos version is more optimized, the A7 CPU is a lot slower than the Snapdragon 600, so they'll have to make it optimize for the Exynos chip than the S600.

With 2 GBs of RAM, who knows how many things are running and what is on the priority list. Those are things we don't get to see in these videos.
I wonder if lets say having 5 memory intensive apps open would bog down the CPU priority list and slow the device down a bit.

First comparative says the Octa version delivers 10% better benchmark performance to the Snapdragon 600 variant
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and better battery life.
http://www.galaxy-s4.info/galaxy-s4...os-5-octa-detailed-review-by-russian-websites
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Samsung Caught Manipulating Galaxy S4 Benchmark Results (I9500)

I found that while browsing news so I though I'd share it here.. I'm disappointed because Samsung actually cheating us. :/
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Smartphone benchmarks never really indicate how a device will ultimately perform, yet tech enthusiasts exalt results like they’re the end all, be all. Check any review; the nebulous collection of numbers are always held in high regard despite them never really doing much to affect the overall experience. Still, companies take them quite seriously—in Samsung’s case, a little too seriously.
According to a new report from AnandTech, Samsung might be fibbing its way to more favorable Galaxy S4 benchmarks. Has your device suddenly come to a crawl? Of course it hasn’t; benchmarks shouldn’t change your perception of a flagship as powerful as the S4. Still, it’s embarrassing that Samsung would resort to such technical tactics, like allegedly using code dubbed “BenchmarkBooster.” Yes, your device takes steroids.
AnandTech found that Samsung set the GPU of the Exynos 5 Galaxy S4 to run higher when benchmarked—higher than normal everyday use. When engineers tested the device, the S4’s Exynos 5 ran at 533MHz during benchmarking, and only ran at 480MHz during regular use. Not an enormous difference, but large enough to call shenanigans.
In addition, AnandTech found that when running CPU benchmarks with apps such as AnTuTu and Quadrant, the device’s Cortex A15 clocked at 1.2GHz; an unofficial benchmarking app, GFXBench 2, revealed that the device actually runs at 500MHz when it’s not juicing. Seems fishy, no?
AnandTech’s findings should in no way effect your final opinion on the Galaxy S4, though it does highlight some shady Samsung tactics. It’s likely the Korean company isn’t the only one to fib benchmarking tests, though; the company is just the one that got caught
Source : http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/07/30/samsung-caught-manipulating-galaxy-s4-benchmark-results/

Gsmarena clearly stated that Samsung is Cheater?
They played the game with the emotion of common consumer...and ...now i am thoroughly dissapointed by Sammy's behaviour

The manipulation of Benchmarks for me confirms the rumors about the Octacore:
SamMobile News from 30 May 2013
Regards

Tanis64 said:
The manipulation of Benchmarks for me confirms the rumors about the Octacore:
SamMobile News from 30 May 2013
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So they released an unfinished chip into the market. Only reason could be marketing. The look at us we have eight core phones angle. People go wow eight is more than four and buy it. So lame.
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Already mentioned by @AndreiLux few decades ago.
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LegendJo said:
I found that while browsing news so I though I'd share it here.. I'm disappointed because Samsung actually cheating us. :/
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So is Intel cheating you to when the Intel Core i5-2500k CPU have anormal speed of 3.3 GHz, but have a turbo speed of 3.7 GHz?

Tom-Helge said:
So is Intel cheating you to when the Intel Core i5-2500k CPU have anormal speed of 3.3 GHz, but have a turbo speed of 3.7 GHz?
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if that speed is only available if your running prime95 or intel burn then....yep.
You can't compare the two, they are totally different.

Tom-Helge said:
So is Intel cheating you to when the Intel Core i5-2500k CPU have anormal speed of 3.3 GHz, but have a turbo speed of 3.7 GHz?
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No, because Intel didn't mislead anyone. Samsung clearly did.

yeahmann said:
No, because Intel didn't mislead anyone. Samsung clearly did.
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Really??
Have you not read this research paper?
http://www.abiresearch.com/press/intel-apps-processor-outperforms-nvidia-qualcomm-s
A modified version of AnTuTu was used to cheat in benchmark.
http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1318857
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2330027

CLARiiON said:
Really??
Have you not read this research paper?
http://www.abiresearch.com/press/intel-apps-processor-outperforms-nvidia-qualcomm-s
A modified version of AnTuTu was used to cheat in benchmark.
http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1318857
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2330027
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That paper had nothing to do with what he's saying. Turbo is still valid and not misleading.
Secondly, you can blame AnTuTu, not Intel, for that benchmark discrepancy. And then again it was only due to compiler change and no actual cheating per se in the conventional matter.

CLARiiON said:
Really??
Have you not read this research paper?
http://www.abiresearch.com/press/intel-apps-processor-outperforms-nvidia-qualcomm-s
A modified version of AnTuTu was used to cheat in benchmark.
http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1318857
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2330027
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From Exophase:
But frankly, I blame AnTuTu in all of this. They allowed themselves to be manipulated (probably for a price), despite constantly warning against other people cheating their numbers. I don't know if they're displaying a complete lack of integrity or a complete lack of understanding of how their own software works, or something in between the two, but whatever the case I hope they lose all credibility and whatever revenue the program brings them.
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No True Octa Core(HMP Update) For Exynos Version.

Sad News:
Sammy exec confirmed this:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_and_note_3_wont_get_true_octacore_update-news-6908.php
No wonder that they released videos of hmp on 5420 instead of note 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwbeb08W27U&feature=youtu.be&ism=SASep1513Facebook1
This is cheating but still that is not going to affect my descision to buy note3.
What do u guys think?

Yet people are still buying and will be buying samsung devices.

Oh noez, no 8 cores in your phone? How will we survive? Seriously, at some point cores will become ubiquitous, nobody will really care once the OS and software just uses available resources. We're getting closer, but I doubt your phone is doing anything that'd really require 8 cores to do.

khaytsus said:
Oh noez, no 8 cores in your phone? How will we survive? Seriously, at some point cores will become ubiquitous, nobody will really care once the OS and software just uses available resources. We're getting closer, but I doubt your phone is doing anything that'd really require 8 cores to do.
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Well HMP/GTS is not jus running all 8 cores at a time its about firing up the required number of cores in any combination of a7's and a15's currently afaik it cluster migration ( the worst implimation of big.littile).

jsriz said:
Well HMP/GTS is not jus running all 8 cores at a time its about firing up the required number of cores in any combination of a7's and a15's currently afaik it cluster migration ( the worst implimation of big.littile).
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I think Note 3 is running core migration, which is much better than cluster migration.

system.img said:
I think Note 3 is running core migration, which is much better than cluster migration.
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Wrong.Note 3 came with cluster migration.
The Note 3 is still running cluster migration and I'll doubt this will change anytime soon. Their drivers are still out of date for normal IKS so I won't even bother trying to get that running on a device I don't own. And frankly nobody else is interested in doing the work.
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