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Xev_10177 suggested that my thread on developers leaving should be used as a resource for all the people wanting to try and pickup developing for the Infuse in sight of almost all of our beloved devs leaving. To make things simpler and to have a thread specifically dedicated to such a thing I have made this one.
Here is Xev_10177's original post:
Xev_10177 said:
Many of us here want to help pick up the dev community here since many are jumping ship. So let's help each other out here. Don't be greedy. Let's share links between us. If you found a good link and you think it might be helpful to others, share it here. Let's pick up the community and keep rolling 'cause there are many of us who are keeping our Infuse4G's so... And obviously, your help will be appreciated. If I find any useful links, I'll obviously share them here.
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As Xev_10177 said, let's keep it rolling!
Anybody, feel free to contribute links or anything of value that could be helpful!
LINKS
Android Articles:
Article with links on Developing: http://primalpop.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/first-few-steps-in-android/
Thread by diablo009 on Android Memory Management: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
An article that talks about cooking ROMs for HTC devices with a special program and Linux: http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/26/ho...om-for-android-part-1-setting-up-the-kitchen/
Software and Development Questions Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120197
A free book on Java [GIVE IT A READ]: http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkapjava/
Android Developing:
Android Developer's site: http://developer.android.com/index.html
Setting up your Android environment: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
Android Developer tutorials: http://developer.android.com/resources/tutorials/hello-world.html
A great thread on developing WITH LINKS by Cyanogen himself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
Advanced Power Menus: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178581
Add Reboot to your Power Menus: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811532
[How To] Extended Power Menu: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169443
[HOW TO] Manually deodex your phone: http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-themes/4620-how-manually-deodex-your-phone.html
ROM Development/ Dissecting:
Evo Forum thread telling how to dissect a ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198035
A Guide to ROM Cooking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142104
ROM Cooking Guide II: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199896
Building CM from scratch (The easy way!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969266
[TUTORIAL] How to unpack ROMs on Windows: http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?
Creating Custom ROMs/Backups for Odin: http://androidforums.com/behold-2-all-things-root/54424-creating-custom-roms-backups-odin.html
[HOW-TO]Create Custom ODIN Images for Backup/Restore: http://forums.androidcentral.com/dr...om-odin-images-backup-restore.html#post909833
A guide to rom cooking, a bit of theming and a bit of modding: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142104
Custom ROM Creator Studio: http://code.google.com/p/custom-rom-creator-studio/
Testing your ROM before flashing: http://greenromproject.com/showthread.php?75-Test-Custom-Rom-Before-Flashing-It-to-Your-Phone
Perka's Ultimate ROM Cooking Guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168916
Yes! Great idea. If I see anything, im posting it here.
Let's do this! We're gonna make it.
Quite awesome thread!
I've been messing with linux and java all day, but I am still far from making a ROM
Oh well, taking it one step at a time
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Quite awesome thread!
I've been messing with linux and java all day, but I am still far from making a ROM
Oh well, taking it one step at a time
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Good job. Atleast you're ahead of me. I'm still in the process of getting Linux. Will download a .pdf C++ and Java book tomorrow.
This might help a bit..
http://primalpop.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/first-few-steps-in-android/
Well I dusted off my old dell latitude and installed the latest Ubuntu and have installed all the tools to make a rom just need to figure out how the pieces fit together lol..... I have been taking apart roms all day I think with some time I may be able to do this lol hopefully I have a good grip before android 2.4 comes out and I can cook us up a rom!
If anyone knows any helpful tips or tricks please share any help will be appreciated! PM me or email me at [email protected]
I was going to jump ship for the S2 but played with it for a bit and I like my infuse!
I'm gettin' in on this too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198035
I know it from the Evo forum, but I thought it had good information.
This is already starting to look good! I'm going to try and do some things. Got a lotta crap with the Marines to do, but I'm definitely going to try and get into this ROM business! Let's get some recipes and cook away!
This is real good stuff from cyanogen himself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
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This site has come in handy:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
For all those who are seriously into getting into making custom roms for this device we should form a dev team that way we can help each other learn and cook up some bad ass roms!
uaguilar said:
This site has come in handy:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
For all those who are seriously into getting into making custom roms for this device we should form a dev team that way we can help each other learn and cook up some bad ass roms!
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That's really not a bad idea. I like it.
Here's a thread by diablo009 on Android Memory Management. Just a little background on things. Doesn't hurt to take a glance through this every once in a while.
TO EVERYONE THAT IS SERIOUSLY INTERESTED:
If we are going to form a dev team we need a way to keep in contact and fast (in case there is a breakthrough).
twitter, google plus?
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Oh Yes i think this is greatness.......
IM IN
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TO EVERYONE THAT IS SERIOUSLY INTERESTED:
If we are going to form a dev team we need a way to keep in contact and fast (in case there is a breakthrough).
twitter, google plus?
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I don't have GooglePlus, and I barely use Twitter. But, in the case of me joining a dev team with you guys, I'd use Twitter 24/7 to keep in contact with you guys. For sure.
And sure, I'm also in, that is, if you guys approve obviously. We might have to starting to PM each other on regards with who's on the team and everything.
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TO EVERYONE THAT IS SERIOUSLY INTERESTED:
If we are going to form a dev team we need a way to keep in contact and fast (in case there is a breakthrough).
twitter, google plus?
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I have Google+, but I have no idea how to use Twitter, haha. And for the record, very good idea!
theROMinator said:
TO EVERYONE THAT IS SERIOUSLY INTERESTED:
If we are going to form a dev team we need a way to keep in contact and fast (in case there is a breakthrough).
twitter, google plus?
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Google+ works for me
Hey guys, I've been playing around with building CM quite a bit lately. I've made more than a handful of apps. I've read tons of articles, including the ones in the infamous post that Cyanogen made. I'm just looking for answers to a couple questions. First of all, I understand how to build CM from source, but I don't know where to get the files for the transformer. I know you can get the kernel source from asus, but I'm wanting to modify the stock rom. Also, is there some sort of method similar to using the extract-files.sh script that cyanogenmod uses when setting up your environment? One last thing, once I get all of those and I make the modifications that I want, how do I build said rom? Do I have to write the make files myself?
I've searched all over the place for at least a month on and off now. If I'm just retarded, then flame away, but every time I ask somebody for help I'm just met with "You need to read more." If somebody could please just help me out a little here I would greatly appreciate it.
Mods can you delete this? I figured it out on my own...
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Nnnoooooooooo!!! Share your information with us! I was considering trying a quick & dirty ICS build for the TF101, but didn't even know where to start. If you know all that stuff relevant to the TF101, please share! :-D
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Hey guys, I've been playing around with building CM quite a bit lately. I've made more than a handful of apps. I've read tons of articles, including the ones in the infamous post that Cyanogen made. I'm just looking for answers to a couple questions. First of all, I understand how to build CM from source, but I don't know where to get the files for the transformer. I know you can get the kernel source from asus, but I'm wanting to modify the stock rom. Also, is there some sort of method similar to using the extract-files.sh script that cyanogenmod uses when setting up your environment? One last thing, once I get all of those and I make the modifications that I want, how do I build said rom? Do I have to write the make files myself?
I've searched all over the place for at least a month on and off now. If I'm just retarded, then flame away, but every time I ask somebody for help I'm just met with "You need to read more." If somebody could please just help me out a little here I would greatly appreciate it.
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unfnknblvbl said:
Nnnoooooooooo!!! Share your information with us! I was considering trying a quick & dirty ICS build for the TF101, but didn't even know where to start. If you know all that stuff relevant to the TF101, please share! :-D
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Yes please share your information...
I'm buiding a ROM as well and searching for inforation as well...
Alright alright haha. I'm still getting things straightened out, but I'll tell you what I know so far. I've got alot of studying to do right now, but you can add me on google talk. [email protected]. I'll be posting tutorials on my website for various things including the ROM stuff that I learn once I get finished with finals. I'll post a link here when I get some tutorials up.
Just let me know who you are when you add me.
Cool, three months from now you'll probably have almost everyone that wants to make a ROM, trying to add you.
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Well I am more than willing to help. I've had my struggles and there are very few people who seem to want to. Of course I would imagine that most of the people who are developers on here get bombarded with messages all the time. I'll probably end up posting some tutorials on my site eventually. Hopefully that will help.
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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Threads like this.
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
Lastly, we have at least 3 other ICS threads why not ask there?
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ismailham said:
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
I'm trying really hard to remain "civil".....really I am
FBis251 said:
You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
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I like that answer lol
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Why does everybody get annoyed when a regular person just wants to know whats wrong out of curiosity? I don't want any ROM or anything I just wanted a technical answer. is the problem the source code being unreleased? will the company ever release it?
I wish I could help, I would really love to. Its like a dream or long term goal to be a dev, study programming languages etc... but that requires lots of time and I'm just waiting a bit as i'm not sure where to start.
I am sorry for any misunderstanding as I know Devs already have rough days and nights with developing and improving. I wasn't "Demanding" or "pushing" as i'm not that person. I am just seeking knowledge, and if the Q&A section isn't the right place to search for Knowledge then I don't know where is.
The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
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I do understand what you mean, and I already put myself in the dev's shoes and I really admire their work, all of it. But I went through all the threads regarding ICS, and sadly their aim is to push , demand and request stuff from devs as if devs don't have enough on their minds already, and that is really annoying and disrespectful. But not all people are like that. I don't have any requests( I have a Nexus S with ICS, SGS 4g CM7.2) I am just seeking knowledge.
I am really grateful for what each and every DEV offers as it is from their personal and free time. Sorry for any misunderstanding
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To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I really thank you for your answer sir. You have helped me a lot, I hope I can lend a hand in any way possible. I will read about kernel/rom compiling. I googled many stuff about a month ago but its so vast and big I sort of got lost and stopped.
Thank you...
Sorry for double posting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V
erikmm said:
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
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What Thomas posted is true but the main reason we dont have a working ICS port is this statement above.
The op makes a good point, this is the Q&A section. Even tho there are many threads asking this same question most of them have ended up in bashing with nerf bats or a mod locking because of insults. Ive read the other threads, but most people will stop reading when the conversation turns sour. You might actually read the other posts but your mind shuts it down. So a informative post will slip in and you wont catch it.
The biggest problem with threads that ask this question is assumptions. When people stop assuming and start to understand the person asking the question things get resolved.
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To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
brandonc0526 said:
I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
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jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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thomas.raines said:
jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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Send me a PM when you guys get on
I am working on porting CM10 to our tablet. If anyone would like to help please join in. I will post a build when I get it working. As of now this is just for development purposes. I am going to post a few links that may help people get started.
ROM:
https://github.com/tpmullan/android_device_asus_tf700.git
Kernel:
https://github.com/tpmullan/android_kernel_asus_tf700.git
This is a thread that I found useful over in the Skyrocket section:
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**For those who use Facebook, here is a link to Decepticaons FB TEAM NAND page: https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/205511066243382/
I think that since we have begun posting builds for everyone out there to try and hopefully gain progression, it is time for the disclaimer:
This is, quite obviously, not only a work-in-progress, but being accomplished by novice developers. We aspire to greatness but are still in our infancy. Having said that, no one will knowingly post anything they do not think will be successful, and as of now, no untested builds will be posted on the front page. Nevertheless, no one is responsible if you lose your files, brick your device, or inadvertently cause a nuclear war. If you are seeking absolute perfection, RUN NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN!! However, if you are all about the learning process as we are, stick around and see what 'develops'!
Here are some relevant topics/tutorials/sites:
Download | Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com/download
Official Ubuntu Documentation: Help for all versions. - https://help.ubuntu.com/
How To Windows Dual Boot: - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
How To Use The Terminal: Commandline stuff. - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal/
[HOW TO] Beginners Guide to Android ROM Development - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272270 (courtesy of isidromxz)
[Tutorial] Compile JB on Ubuntu - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762641 (courtesy of dastin1015)
[CM10] [PPA] Cyanogenmod Compiler v0.6 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1789190 (courtesy of lithid-cm)
[WIP][CM10] CyanogenMod 10 Alpha | tutorial - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775133 (courtesy of sk8erwitskil)
[Wiki] How to: Gerrit - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Gerrit
[Wiki] How to: Git - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Git
[Wiki] How to: Connect to device with SSH - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Connect_to_Device_with_SSH
Here is an easy-to-use page on common Linux commands: - http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
Linux Newbie Guide : - http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml
Also, Team Chopsticks has a good page with some useful tips as well, located here:
http://www.teamchopsticks.org/p/contributing.html (thanks to bdusmc for the tip)
*A fellow journeyman of the development process has begun a blog with useful tips on learning Breakfast, Brunch, and Lunch, among other things. He goes by the name synrgi, and a link to his blog is here:
http://blog.cameronpickett.com/2011/09/16/breakfast-brunch-and-lunch/
It has been suggested that we learn the ins and outs of Github and utilizing our own repository. I have one ready to use and it can be found here:
https://github.com/BMP7777/project-rookie-4.1.1
It makes sense that we keep our little project 'in house' until we are ready for the big leagues; Also, it will help us all have a place to gather new, workable files and share among ourselves. (thanks to new ion?)
INSTRUCTIONS, TIPS, and TRICKS:
Many of us rookies have been having trouble getting ourselves 'up and running' with our environment, myself maybe the most. In an effort to save new rookies some headaches, I will say that the general consensus for a successful environment the first time out is to follow steps #1 through #5 on the 'Compile JB on Ubuntu' tutorial. From there, following the steps listed in sk8rs 'Cyanogenmod 10 Alpha' is said to be the way to go. After many failed attempts, I have followed these steps and performed a successful (bootable and functional) build. It can be smooth sailing for some, and for others(like me), it can be like having a root canal. But, KEEP TRYING! Follow the steps, practice, be prepared for any number of issues, and research any time you have a problem or question. Questions posted here will be answered; we are all one big happy family. But, if your question is silly, i.e. something you should have taken the time to explore before asking, don't get your feelings hurt when you receive some ribbing and ridicule along with an answer. It happens to me all the time. LOOK IT UP. It will eventually work out and you will be successful!
Rule #1 is RESEARCH
Rule #2 is RESEARCH(Remember FIGHT CLUB?)
Rule #3 is PATIENCE
Rule #4 is DON"T GIVE UP
Any question, no matter how 'noobie', is welcome here. But, I think everyone would agree that the fastest way to learn is to research AND ask for help. All the above topics are here to assist in the learning process, but some of the 'HOW TOs' can also be slightly contradictory in terms of steps if you are new to the process. A good example is the above listing of steps pulled from the one tutorial and the other. The reason behind this is simple: the entire AOSP(Compile JB on Ubuntu) tutorial is meant to get you started if you want to compile and build from the whole android base. Sk8rs thread is designed with building ONLY Cyanogenmod 10 in mind. Sk8rs thread was posted for those already familiar to the process, so us rookies need to start from ground zero. The best advice from one rookie to another is to study, practice, THEN ASK. CHECK THE POSTS, THREADS, AND STICKIES. For those new to XDA, you can look up specific questions you have by typing them in the top right box. If they have been asked, you will get a hit. No one minds helping, and we all need it here, but pretty soon the questions will begin to get redundant like in every other thread. Like with everything else, LOOK IT UP.
Also, it was rightfully pointed out to me that we need to be STUDYING THE CODE. LEARN THE COMMANDS. NONE OF US WILL GET ANYWHERE IF WE JUST COPY AND PASTE. THE WAY TO LEARN IS STUDY!!!
Here is a very useful post by cyanogen, as found by new ion?; everyone should look at the advice offered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
As with everything else, these instructions are a WIP. More to be posted as I learn...
Some of the more experienced Devs have taken in interest in this thread, and have offered to make themselves available for the OCCASIONAL question. Please guys, let's not badger them to death! Google is our friend!
lightswitch2159
Post your questions here in the thread, or on the TEAM NAND page on FB, or a PM to one of the above users -
Special thanks to R4INS, roger_n, lightswitch2159and bdusmc for their advice and suggestions
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I have a flash able cm10 rom that won't boot up due to kernel. Got a few ideas I'm going to try today, hopefully I can get it booting
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Did you build the kernel from source and add it into the cm ram disk?
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Did you build the kernel from source and add it into the cm ram disk?
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Check pm
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awesome. can't wait to see what you guys come up with!
I can help, but the only thing I can do is rudimentary PNG editing ;_;.
I got b& at /a/ for sh!tposting ;_;
I'll provide rapidgator mirroring account for downloads.
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I can mirror also. It's my own private hosting so there wont be any waiting crap. Direct downloads FTW!
Progress update: I have gotten cm10 to boot, but still hangs. Looking into logcat now but soon everyone!
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Progress update: I have gotten cm10 to boot, but still hangs. Looking into logcat now but soon everyone!
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sounds great!
This would be the reason to unlock.
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Just a little question... Did you contact CM10 developpers on the Transformer Prime thread? They probably can be helpfull, as the codebase is pretty similar with Tegra2/Tegra3? Makelegs, Craigacgomez have CM10 running on their TF201 and Loganmc10 on the TF300.
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Just a little question... Did you contact CM10 developpers on the Transformer Prime thread? They probably can be helpfull, as the codebase is pretty similar with Tegra2/Tegra3? Makelegs, Craigacgomez have CM10 running on their TF201 and Loganmc10 on the TF300.
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I have tried contacting logan with no response back, but here's the deal. I am going into surgery on Thursday, and will be knocked out for a while. If I can't get this thing stable, il either post what I have for the community to work on, or give it to a private dev for a joint rom. Dunno yet Wel see how today goes
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Hope your surgery goes well.
Been there done that had a kidney transplant in December 2009.
Good luck.
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Hope your surgery goes well.
Been there done that had a kidney transplant in December 2009.
Good luck.
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Wow, that's actually what I'm getting lol. Small world
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I have tried contacting logan with no response back, but here's the deal. I am going into surgery on Thursday, and will be knocked out for a while. If I can't get this thing stable, il either post what I have for the community to work on, or give it to a private dev for a joint rom. Dunno yet Wel see how today goes
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Good luck!
Take it easy
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Wow, that's actually what I'm getting lol. Small world
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Long painful 2 or 3 weeks listen to your doctors
take your meds. stay away from children and sick people.
wear your mask when outside and everywhere else you go:good:
Good luck, ftmaniac948, remember there's a lot more to do with the development after you get back!
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Wow, that's actually what I'm getting lol. Small world
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Kidney transplant? Sounds pretty bad. Wish you the best of luck, you'll make it out fine
I'm on it y'all
As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
scott.hart.bti said:
As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.
Dani897 said:
you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.
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Lol! So true!
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Just wanted to put my two cents in...I've been an avid user of the roms from this site for quite awhile now & have never felt the need to register because any issues I've ever had,I've been able to rectify with some searching or have been on roms that have clearly stated they were beta's & expected to have flaws. That being said...after watching what happened on your infuse board, I just wanted to let you know the fact that you're continuing to develop & keep our phones updated with the best features gave me the first true reason to register so I could say thanks...
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Thank You.
I don't blame Scott for having the thread closed, not one bit.
And Dani is correct, Scott's character flaw is only that he's missing the "asshole" gene that some tend to have.
Now on to the good part...
I'm getting back into the swing of things as far as porting and development goes. My first attempt is going to be a nearly pure AOSP build using Aries repos and some Maguro/Takju code base, with parts from the most recent CM10.1 base. I have an idea of what I want to incorporate, but it should be light and clean, with a smooth interface.
Scott, I will be in touch with you shortly on this, as I need to finish and finalize my SDK installs and get everything going correctly for a first build.
Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
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Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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But Scott specifically asked multiple times not to post bugs on the 4.2/cm10.1 releases due to the fact that source is still being merged -cm said themselves that the 4.2 code would be buggy and that you probably wouldn't be able to build anything with it...for the most part Scott proved both of those wrong
However I do like the idea of the three threads
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Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
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scott.hart.bti said:
I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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Yes, he will keep developing, but don't expect to see updates on this forum, which is a shame. His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.
Thanks for the update, Scott. Don't let the drama llamas get you down
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hattrickinc said:
Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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For the most part I agree with you. Its why I probably pissed a bunch of people off defending the late comers and those that just don't know about logcats and such.
However, it was stated multiple times by not just Scott but the more senior and knowledgeable members that the 4.2 was going to have problems.
I agree searching through 1000 plus posts can be a daunting task and maybe I just don't have a life but I've done it for every ICS/JB rom I've flashed.. But I was there at the beginning of that development so it made it easier. But you didn't have to read more than 2 pages between warnings for the 4.2.
I'm on Scott's side on this one.
If nothing else click on the op's profile and just read all their posts.
Personally I think only devs should be allowed to post on a dev thread but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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I agree. I think there should be a minimum post count of 100 and a requirement to agree to a separate 'contract' to post in dev. threads. I read dev threads to find out what's going on in development not the rubbish that appears in most dev threads. The infuse forums have been fairly tolerant of this kind of thing. Other forums on xda, much less so.
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Changelog
I think another part of the problem is that very little actual development discussion happens here. It seems that people release their stuff here, and respond to bug reports, but that's about it. You can learn a lot about Linux by reading the archives of the Linux Kernel Mailing List (LKML). It's not quite the same situation here, learning about android is much harder (i have yet to find an android equivalent for the LKML)
Anyway, Thanks for continuing development! Will you be posting a change log between releases? I just like to know what I'm flashing ahead of time
Thanks,
woody
Scotts just released CM10.1 on goomanager 12/10 build go check it out
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Scott,
Glad to see you will be still be developing. Will there be some type of change log somewhere that we can view? I agree with some of the past. 500 pages of posts to read/search is alot. possibly a better brake down would have keep people posting in the correct places. Also with the 4.2 merge MY opionion would have been to make a separate thread as the last 4.1.2 was stable and really usable as its still my current daily. If the items arent merged maybe it isnt a good idea to even make a realease unless its to a few beta testers. That way 100s of people dont whine and complain about known or dumb issues.
Either way keeep up the good work.
Not sure how it would be accomplished, but a good idea would be to remove all posts from the cm10 thread and only scott could post in it (updates/changelog).
I have no idea how feasible that would be though.
Many thanks to scott
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!
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His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.
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This^
hovin1988 said:
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!
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And this^
I generally just read through the thread reading peoples issues if i ran into one rather than post. Issues were always sorted out if i kept reading. But thanks for all your hard work in creating roms, I know i'd be really bad off without them :good:
I think the communication and forum issues are simply a result of using a forum for "developer collaboration". Then to top it off, many are using tapatalk, which has the most useless search feature ever. I've heard the argument that a proper browser should be used, but many just won't.
As long as a forum is used for xda development, it will continue to be more like a ROM forum than anything else intended without ridiculous amounts of moderation (even judicious use of temp bans without warning).
Forums are good for arguing lol. Bugtrackers are good for tracking bugs, especially since they are easy to police. If you want feedback as well, make a special category for that. Duplicates and invalid reports can be easily identified and marked as such. For all other forums(general, q&a, accessories, etc.) a forum makes sense to me. For the development forum, a forum, IMO, makes little sense.
If the forum format is used in order to foster community, fine. You can expect a lot of drama, arguing, complaining, and everything else that goes along with it.
Just my opinion. I could be completely wrong.
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