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One S versions.. Z520e?

Hi guys,
Looking to buy a HTC One S from eBay but bit confused with all their model names.. What is the Z520e? What does that model name signifiy? What model name should I get?
I'm a UK-based consume on O2..
Sorry if this is a dumb question..
Thanks,
TD

Z520e means it's with S4 processor.

That's the good one right, opposed to the dated S3?

thedynamix said:
That's the good one right, opposed to the dated S3?
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If you want to root and re-ROM the S4 is the one to get. I think devs for the S3 are available but they are far fewer

I should explain.. I have no idea about rooting.. Just want the most recent, performant HTC One S I can get.. Assuming the S4 variant is faster, then I will opt for that.. Right?

if you are not going to mess with your phone one is as good as the other. On paper the S3 a better spec at 1.7 ghz to the S4s 1.5 ghz but this is because the chip is overclocked. In real terms the difference is negligible, There are dozens of threads covering this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742722
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877778
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817648
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739431
The overwhelming consensus seems to be S4 over S3 any day

You guys are great, thanks as always!
Surprised to see how epxneisce this phone still is.. Compared to SG S3, there isn't a great deal of £ difference.. At least here in the UK, on eBay..

On another note guys.. I've seen reports of the black paint fading and chipping... Has anyone else seen/experienced these issues?
I was keen on the black version, but if the grey version does not suffer from this, I'll rather go with that...

I got the gray version and it's not chipped/scratched at all. Can't say anything about the black one and I've never held it or seen it.

ATSPerson said:
On paper the S3 a better spec at 1.7 ghz to the S4s 1.5 ghz but this is because the chip is overclocked. In real terms the difference is negligible
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I don't agree with this. On paper the S4 chip is WAY better, because it'a much more powerful and efficient architecture, despite the lower frequency.
Go with S4 if you can (Z520E=S4)!
About the chipping issue, they say it has been solved in newer batches since quite a while. However, the grey one has never suffered this issue.

You guys are grreat - thanks again!

Press the thanks button

I've had the black version since May. It is scratched and chipped, especially the sharpish edges at the top and the bottom of the unit where the black coating has all but given way to the metal beneath.
I'd say if this was important to you look at an alternative to the black. For me, it's not a showstopper. I use the thing every day and I'm not particularly precious about how I handle it. It's a phone, not a museum piece.
Take a look for yourself....

nor-ric said:
I don't agree with this. On paper the S4 chip is WAY better, because it'a much more powerful and efficient architecture, despite the lower frequency.
Go with S4 if you can (Z520E=S4)!
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I take your point and agree - to a point. I was keeping it non-technical, and comparing raw Ghz with raw Ghz of course there are many other factors to take into consideration and the efficiency of the architecture is definitely very important.

ATSPerson said:
I've had the black version since May. It is scratched and chipped, especially the sharpish edges at the top and the bottom of the unit where the black coating has all but given way to the metal beneath.
I'd say if this was important to you look at an alternative to the black. For me, it's not a showstopper. I use the thing every day and I'm not particularly precious about how I handle it. It's a phone, not a museum piece.
Take a look for yourself....
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Haha I get where you're coming from and tbh over time, I probably won't mind if it scratches.. But If I can make an informed decision before purchase, I can have a phone AND a museum piece!
But you're right.. Hardly a major concern.

But thank you! You got me thinking and I did a bit of research. I'm going to pimp my dial like these guys have
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912039
can't wait to get started

Hi guys,
Sorry to bring this thread back, but I'm wondering why I still haven't received the latest HTC One S android update.. I'm thinking this might be because I have an S3 version... But how can I tell this for sure? I bought the phone second hand..
Any help appreciated!
Thanks!

Anyone?

thedynamix said:
Anyone?
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Download cpuspy from PLAY store and look if you have 1502mhz(S4) or 1674mhz(S3)
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Samsung Galaxy S IV - Phone of the Year 2013

It doesn't take a genius to see that this phone offers way beyond what other manufacturers are capable of. Any company can put together a body and screen and call it a phone, but Samsung not only puts the best hardware, they have the best software. What a beautiful phone. Just like the S3, and S2 before that, the S4 is easily going to win the award. It bascially made all other phones obsolete. (sans spen). Good job Sammy.

Matter of opinion but I agree with you
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Don't wanna be a part pooper (I too would like to give Sammy a post on the back) but what's the purpose of this thread
S4 INFO

TingTingin said:
Don't wanna be a part pooper (I too would like to give Sammy a post on the back) but what's the purpose of this thread
S4 INFO
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good question
OP, you're delusional if you can't admit that the HTC One is an incredible piece of hardware and software in its own right.
it'll be a close call for the phone of the year - if its to be one of these 2, i am sure that opinion will be just as divided as it is now.

djbenny1 said:
good question
OP, you're delusional if you can't admit that the HTC One is an incredible piece of hardware and software in its own right.
it'll be a close call for the phone of the year - if its to be one of these 2, i am sure that opinion will be just as divided as it is now.
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I have to agree although i sense you being a little bias towards the HTC One. But yeah, in my opinion there are 2 2013 Flagship phones that matter, S IV and HTC One. The rest IS obsolete so far and that is including the XZ and the optimus G pro ( not that its a bad phone but it wont compete).

barondebxl said:
I have to agree although i sense you being a little bias towards the HTC One. But yeah, in my opinion there are 2 2013 Flagship phones that matter, S IV and HTC One. The rest IS obsolete so far and that is including the XZ and the optimus G pro ( not that its a bad phone but it wont compete).
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HTC One is my choice - no doubt - I waited until GS4 was announced before i decided though so i was still hoping samsung could pull something out of the bag.
you're right, theres nothing else out now that comes close to either of them but it will be interesting to see next Nexus phone though.

In my view HTC Sense is quite smoother, excellent and amazing over touchwiz.
It is my opinion only. But beware of HTC One. It's gonna be a tug of war.

And what about the Note2(or coming Note3)? Doesn't it deserve a nomination?

djbenny1 said:
HTC One is my choice - no doubt - I waited until GS4 was announced before i decided though so i was still hoping samsung could pull something out of the bag.
you're right, theres nothing else out now that comes close to either of them but it will be interesting to see next Nexus phone though.
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Oh yeah definitely. Nexus(es) are always relevant regardless. I also waited for the S IV announcement to make up my mind between the 2 and chose S 4. But i will at some point get the HTC One and carry both

djbenny1 said:
good question
OP, you're delusional if you can't admit that the HTC One is an incredible piece of hardware and software in its own right.
it'll be a close call for the phone of the year - if its to be one of these 2, i am sure that opinion will be just as divided as it is now.
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What's so special about the One other than the nice animations and battery consuming Blink?
I had an HTC before with Sense 4, and the software didn't impress me at all.

Kremata said:
And what about the Note2(or coming Note3)? Doesn't it deserve a nomination?
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Note 3 isn't out yet and note 2, while being one of the best phone ever isn't a flagship for this year. We are just comparing the new devices. But yeah note 2 is a beast no doubt.

SamerBerjawi said:
What's so special about the One other than the nice animations and battery consuming Blink?
I had an HTC before with Sense 4, and the software didn't impress me at all.
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looking at software only, sense 5 is MUCH closer to stock android than any other version previously.
they've also removed much of the bloat that was in other versions.
(for the record, i didnt care much for previous versions of sense either, usually preferred stock android)
this is off topic though.
on topic, yea i was going to mention the note 3 - i dunno though, im not entirely happy with it being called a phone, for me its TOO big as i believe its 5.5"?
5" is really pushing it IMO.

I'm a Galaxy S fan and I think that unfortunately the S4 is being released too early.
now every manufacturer who comes out with a flagship phone will try to top it and probably succeed :/
I wonder if Apple will be able to with the new iPhone

SamerBerjawi said:
What's so special about the One other than the nice animations and battery consuming Blink?
I had an HTC before with Sense 4, and the software didn't impress me at all.
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Samsung S4's Super OLED screen has a stunning 441ppi, which is more than the iPhone 5 but less than the HTC One (468).
S4 - Plastic build.
ONE- Premium built.
The ultra pixel camera of ONE beats up 13MP camera.
In terms of speed S4 is the winner but this doesn't mean that ONE is not a good phone.
Am not contradicting with you, am saying "what's so special about One"

shashivydyula said:
Samsung S4's Super OLED screen has a stunning 441ppi, which is more than the iPhone 5 but less than the HTC One (468).
S4 - Plastic build.
ONE- Premium built.
The ultra pixel camera of ONE beats up 13MP camera.
In terms of speed S4 is the winner but this doesn't mean that ONE is not a good phone.
Am not contradicting with you, am saying "what's so special about One"
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Some people love super amoled, while some don't care for it. The way I see it, samsung and htc make the best screens on the market today. I prefer my Note 2's super amoled over the HTC One X's Super LCD 2, so I am thinking I am going to prefer the S4 screen over the One.
However the camera on the One has been getting some mixed reviews. It's being seen that it does take great pictures in low light settings due to the better absorption from the lesser pixels, but pictures are as sharp as those seen on other 8 MP camera, especially when zooming in on the pictures. For most people it doesn't matter, but to say that the One's camera "beats up" the camera on the S4 is a bit over sighted especially since we haven't seen any comparable shots taken between the two cameras.

oneinfour said:
Some people love super amoled, while some don't care for it. The way I see it, samsung and htc make the best screens on the market today. I prefer my Note 2's super amoled over the HTC One X's Super LCD 2, so I am thinking I am going to prefer the S4 screen over the One.
However the camera on the One has been getting some mixed reviews. It's being seen that it does take great pictures in low light settings due to the better absorption from the lesser pixels, but pictures are as sharp as those seen on other 8 MP camera, especially when zooming in on the pictures. For most people it doesn't matter, but to say that the One's camera "beats up" the camera on the S4 is a bit over sighted especially since we haven't seen any comparable shots taken between the two cameras.
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there is one comparison that ive seen which was done at the samsung event, its over on the one forum if you're interested.
in that case the One is clearly better - but then again it was fairly low light, and one had final software - im sure gs4 did not.

djbenny1 said:
there is one comparison that ive seen which was done at the samsung event, its over on the one forum if you're interested.
in that case the One is clearly better - but then again it was fairly low light, and one had final software - im sure gs4 did not.
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There are few images of HTC ONE's camera captures on techradar site.
They said that in a low light and darker places HTC One has an incredible performance where iphone5 and S3 failed to capture details of the image in those conditions.
Am sure the cam of One is superb and excellent.

shashivydyula said:
There are few images of HTC ONE's camera captures on techradar site.
They said that in a low light and darker places HTC One has an incredible performance where iphone5 and S3 failed to capture details of the image in those conditions.
Am sure the cam of One is superb and excellent.
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Its good in low light conditions.. but not good when u view in your laptop or zoom in on your phone or good for outside shots or bright conditions..
I m sorry..your surety doesnt mean that its good enough...
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Chillz88 said:
Its good in low light conditions.. but not good when u view in your laptop or zoom in on your phone or good for outside shots or bright conditions..
I m sorry..your surety doesnt mean that its good enough...
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it's really not complicated.
the HTC One has a good camera - i dont think you will find a review that doesnt say that.
on the other hand, the same people all agree that it's lacking in detail - no big surprise. that's the price you pay for low light performance.
those who know enough about camera variables to tinker with the settings will be able to get very similar results on both phones regarding colour etc.
if you don't care about low light performance, then almost certainly gs4 camera wins for you (if you are only considering those 2 phones), if you do care about low light and also image stabilisation, then HTC wins.
easy.

If u read what I said instead of jumping on me because of your fanboyism, you wil read that I said they take good low light photos.. and pics good for facebook.. but I have a life outside facebook.. only max 5 percent of the photos I take get on it.. some people dont use fb.... so I dont need a 4mp..sorry.. and if u check verge, pocketnow and even watch their shows on youtube, you will easily hear them saying that htc is a fail in camera..
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[Discussion] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?

Is it just me, or is the Galaxy S IV the phone that everyone was expecting right before the Galaxy S III was announced one year ago?
When I saw the specs and first photos of the S IV my first thought was "Wow!! It's the phone I wished for one year ago but Samsung gave me the damn S III."
Don't get me wrong, the SIII was good, not better than the One X if you take raw speed out of the equation, but a great device overall, a best seller and the phone everyone is trying to sell now to either get a Note 2, an Iphone 5, a S IV or the HTC One. But if the SIII was the S4 (again not speaking about raw speed or the octa core cpu) most of them wouldn't bother.
It's like Samsung IS trying to screw us out of our money just as they did with the SIII, they said a Pentile Matrix is more resilient to time but they went with RGB on the Note 2. They knew everyone was gonna buy it so they said "****'em, they'll eat it up anyway". Very Apple-like technique if you don't mind me saying so.
Oh, and I'm really not trolling or trying to be trolled at, I honestly want to know what people and not fanboys have to say and think about it, and when I say fanboys I mean all of them, no matter if it's Samsung, HTC, Apple (I don't think there's any other kind of brand-fanboy in the mobile world out there)

75 views and not even one comment???
Is my english that bad that I'm not making sense?
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Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
This is normal. Manufacturers always offer some incremental specs & features. If they offered S4's spec last year, what do you want them to offer this year? 16cores processor, 16mp camera, 3500mAh battery and 500ppi screen? You will still keep asking the same question : why they can't offer this last year?
It happens to all kind of gadgets. You as the consumer should decide to buy or not to buy. Nobody force you to buy if you don't like what they offered.
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well technically it is the Samsung S3S except they put a 4 in order not to be sued by Apple

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n1ggyn1ce said:
well technically it is the Samsung S3S except they put a 4 in order not to be sued by Apple
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tru dat
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Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
No. I am liking what I see. I already enjoy my GS3. And I am almost certainly going to enjoy the Galaxy S4.
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The camera, screen, battery tech and big.LITTLE CPU weren't possible back then, at least not enough to meet demand or at any reasonable cost to consumers. Android 4.2.2 also wasn't released yet. I'm not really sure what you mean, since the S3 was already better than the One X in many ways. The only thing I could see the S3 launching with were the different design and the floating touch tech, but at least the remaining apps and software features will come to the S3 as well.

Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
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well technically it is the Samsung S3S except they put a 4 in order not to be sued by Apple
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Are you high? Everytime i see this i cringe... The 4 to 4s or 3g to 3gs had same screen same design... Exactly the same.... This has nee camera cpu thats a lot better way better screen with new matrix... Improved speaker ui and better design... This isnt as incremental as u think..
The battery is also loads better lol
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.

Arsaw said:
This is normal. Manufacturers always offer some incremental specs & features. If they offered S4's spec last year, what do you want them to offer this year? 16cores processor, 16mp camera, 3500mAh battery and 500ppi screen? You will still keep asking the same question : why they can't offer this last year?
It happens to all kind of gadgets. You as the consumer should decide to buy or not to buy. Nobody force you to buy if you don't like what they offered.
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this is not what I asked, I said that it's the device everyone thought that was coming last year, and I did specify that I am NOT talking about the CPU or raw power of the device, I was talking about features and innovation, and even the actuall ppi of the screen since the matrix is pentile on the s3 and with 65% of really visible pixels the display no matter how good is still not the flagship display you'd expect.

howtomen said:
Are you high? Everytime i see this i cringe... The 4 to 4s or 3g to 3gs had same screen same design... Exactly the same.... This has nee camera cpu thats a lot better way better screen with new matrix... Improved speaker ui and better design... This isnt as incremental as u think..
The battery is also loads better lol
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
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oh and I'm not saying that either device is bad or even close, I'm saying that after the i9000 moved to the i9100 it was a huge step forward and a true game-changer, that is not the case so much with the i9100 to i9300 or the i9300 to i9500.

I was expecting both posts to merge
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The pentile phobia is ridiculous at 440ppi. The human eye can't see it. Are you walking around with your microscope?
I also cringe when I read misleading post like "the S4 is like the S3". This comes from HTC CEO who said after the S4 launch "It's more of the same". This was clearly said in an intent to discredit Samsung and was said early after HTC declare war on Samsung.
The fact that Samsung has slowly but steadily climbed the top rung and has developed a strong fan following is not lost out on other phone makers. Almost every other phone maker is now looking at Samsung as a threat and their actions are spurred by Samsung releases
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SOURCE->http://www.indiatimes.com/technology/enterprise/phone-makers-declare-war-against-samsung-66939.html
It's too bad that people react like this. There is place for all kinds of phones(even iphone, my 80 years old mom needs a non-customizable phone).
You can try to degrade it as much as youwant. The FACTS remains that the S4 is differrent in every single aspect thus making it a new generation.
HTC fans should be happy that the S4 is not what the S3 should have been. Can you imagine much far behind the competition would be?
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Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
Well the imaginary phone that u sre talking about is certainly not the s3 but the original note. Because next year when note 2 came nobody felt the need of changing their note and we got all the functionality of a note 2.
S4 really has a tough competition. So going leaps away is what tuey needed to do. They didnt put their octa out yet. They will tweak it to outrun the google X phone. Then maybe release it with KLP. so one flagship will compete twice like HOX.
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crossmission said:
oh and I'm not saying that either device is bad or even close, I'm saying that after the i9000 moved to the i9100 it was a huge step forward and a true game-changer, that is not the case so much with the i9100 to i9300 or the i9300 to i9500.
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Hahahaha. I love this reply. SO true! :angel:

Considering that the GS4 blows everything else out of the water in terms of hardware, it's highly unrealistic to expect Samsung to have produced it a year back.
Seriously let's stop with all this GS3 S crap which is the product of silly tech journalists who apparently can't see beyond the surface. Undeneath the hood the GS4 is a big upgrade over the GS3 which itself was a pretty big upgrade over the GS2.
I have posted this list of improvements elsehwere but let me post it again:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
How is this not an impressive upgrade? And I didn't even mention the 1080 60FPS video capability. And all this in a smaller, lighter device than the GS3.

Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
No.
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Strategist said:
Considering that the GS4 blows everything else out of the water in terms of hardware, it's highly unrealistic to expect Samsung to have produced it a year back.
Seriously let's stop with all this GS3 S crap which is the product of silly tech journalists who apparently can't see beyond the surface. Undeneath the hood the GS4 is a big upgrade over the GS3 which itself was a pretty big upgrade over the GS2.
I have posted this list of improvements elsehwere but let me post it again:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
How is this not an impressive upgrade? And I didn't even mention the 1080 60FPS video capability. And all this in a smaller, lighter device than the GS3.
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All these S4=S3+ claimers always repeat the same thing like a bunch of blind sheeps but never bring any reasoning to their statements.
Here is a logical statement
If S4 = S3+ then HTC One = HTC One X+

Lol, you are trying to bring future in present which is not possible. Samsung has made gradual improvements in both software and hardware department which is quite good. I love the work done by their R&D department. Even with these specs, these are miles ahead of competitors and it seems like there is no end to samsung's innovation.
First they introduced smart stay. It was a kinda gimmeck, but they improved it and brought more changes into it in the next phone. Same goes with the air view. They are improving and improving. If all the features they showcased on GS4 worked well, just imagine the number of enhancement it will bring to note 3 and S5. No competitor is working at this pace, so hats off to Samsung.

Kremata said:
All these S4=S3+ claimers always repeat the same thing like a bunch of blind sheeps but never bring any reasoning to their statements.
Here is a logical statement
If S4 = S3+ then HTC One = HTC One X+
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You statement never been logic.
Which part show HTC one = HTC One X++ (suppose ++ as already got + version at market).
People said S4 = S3+ because the design was too identical to differentiate it.

sohebq said:
Lol, you are trying to bring future in present which is not possible. Samsung has made gradual improvements in both software and hardware department which is quite good. I love the work done by their R&D department. Even with these specs, these are miles ahead of competitors and it seems like there is no end to samsung's innovation.
First they introduced smart stay. It was a kinda gimmeck, but they improved it and brought more changes into it in the next phone. Same goes with the air view. They are improving and improving. If all the features they showcased on GS4 worked well, just imagine the number of enhancement it will bring to note 3 and S5. No competitor is working at this pace, so hats off to Samsung.
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I often said that I was a fan of the Power/capability of the phone but not necessarily Samsung. In fact the first thing I was doing when having a new phone was to remove all Samsung apps. But now I think Samsung features have grown to a point where it's nearly futuristic. I mean, I started a thread where I ask people "What specs or features the SGS4 Should've had? " and nobody can come up with features as awesome as what the S4 already have.
I think those features will be the decision makers for Mr. and Mrs. everybody. Yes the HTC One looks a bit more premium with it's alumium chassis but if I show the two phones and show how I can just tell my phone "Play music" or I can put the phone on the table and take a picture of myself just by saying "Shoot"(no need to use the front camera anymore), it creates a big wow factor. The best HTC One could come up with is Blinkfeed(which is Flipboard-like).
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Andrewtst said:
You statement never been logic.
Which part show HTC one = HTC One X++ (suppose ++ as already got + version at market).
People said S4 = S3+ because the design was too identical to differentiate it.
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So by your logic they could've keep the same cpu/gpu/screen/ram etc.. but change the design, then the phone would've been a big update?
Wow ok, nice talking with you.

So what do you guys think about this?

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/13...quality-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-a-new-design/
In all honesty, I think this is why competition is great, because it makes OEM step their game up where they have "weaknesses". It'll be interesting to see how Samsung respond in the future. I like their build quality and design, never bothered me but this could be a good thing.

barondebxl said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/13...quality-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-a-new-design/
In all honesty, I think this is why competition is great, because it makes OEM step their game up where they have "weaknesses". It'll be interesting to see how Samsung respond in the future. I like their build quality and design, never bothered me but this could be a good thing.
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I hope they stay with plastic. Most Samsung users love it because "its the best material for smartphones"... what should they buy if samsung starts building phones with aluminum or other metals?
Oh, suddenly aluminum would be the best :silly:

shox22 said:
I hope they stay with plastic. Most Samsung users love it because "its the best material for smartphones"... what should they buy if samsung starts building phones with aluminum or other metals?
Oh, suddenly aluminum would be the best :silly:
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Yeah they can stay with plastic no problem, just make it more solid like the lumia or One X and change the design maybe? ( but definitely keep the home button and both capacitive buttons )

i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen

I hope Samsung doesn't give up on the replaceable battery and microSD slot. The fact is that most people put their expensive phones inside covers so the original design doesn't matter much. It's the kind of thing reviewers make a lot of noise about but most customers don't really care that much.

yeah, "worried" is definitely inaccurate, they are far from worried but let's all keep it real here and not be too one sided. The One has an incredible design and great choice of material ( I won't give it credit for build quality cause they always have QC issues), apparently most people like that. So imagine if Samsung can ( and they certainly can) make the next flagship with a whole new design, choose a strong kind of material, I think it'll be game over for everyone else. We here all like the plastic but many don't, so Samsung will make everyone happy by changing things a little.

Strategist said:
I hope Samsung doesn't give up on the replaceable battery and microSD slot. The fact is that most people put their expensive phones inside covers so the original design doesn't matter much. It's the kind of thing reviewers make a lot of noise about but most customers don't really care that much.
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I absolutely agree on the replaceable battery and SD card, this is something they cannot get rid of. But they can pull off a different design and keep those two in place without a problem.

yahyoh said:
i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen
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"Galaxy Mega." Someone listened to the Engadget Mobile podcast.
I have plumped for the HTC One, coming from the Galaxy S2 due to 2 year contracts, and never cared for what others call "premium" builds.
Having owned the HTC One for a few days now I have to say that having a phone made from more "expensive feeling" materials is by no means a bad thing.
It can only be a good thing if Samsung start putting a bit more effort into handset design. We all know that Samsung usually have the better specs. It really can't hurt to back this up with better design.
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Yeah they can stay with plastic no problem, just make it more solid like the lumia or One X and change the design maybe? ( but definitely keep the home button and both capacitive buttons )
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Yes, they should definitely change the design. Last year most people were like: "look at that ugly sgs3"... but after a while, the people get used to it. But thtat doesnt mean samsung designs are nice. They are not in my eyes.
The One X was a really cute smartphone made of polycarbonat. It still feels 10000 times better then the glossy plastic s3 (and probably s4). If they use that kind of plastic, it would be a big step forward in look and feel. But i doubt they will do. It will be for sure more expensiv.

What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....

yahyoh said:
i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen
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Agreed with the Hyperglaze. My S2's back-plate/battery cover was matte, and it was just fine, looked good too.

Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....
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You're absolutely right, and I actually said it a few posts above ^^. HTC has great designs and choice of material is arguably very good ( has its own pros and cons) but I can't give them credit for their build quality cause they always have QC issues.

Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....
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100% certified, correct. To quote my own signature, "don't mistake build materials for build quality". From multiple accounts, the HTC One build quality is poor.
I will bet that the Galaxy S4 build quality will exceed the HTC One's build quality. Argue materials all you would like, but it's time for reviewers, forum members, and the general public to learn the English language. Materials, by definition, is not quality.

I dunno, I like the build just fine but maybe they could use matte polycarbonate like Lumia or HOX. I prefer those over the hyperglaze.
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Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality?
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What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/

Right on, brother. Sad that all the tech sites are quoting this, though. Tech blogs love to put in zero effort to their sources.
Where is the "trust, but verify" that the profession should uphold?
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cfn87 said:
Where is the "trust, but verify" that the profession should uphold?
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It's been replaced by this.
And for our international members, this.

I perfer lighter case or design no matter plastic or metal.

BarryH_GEG said:
What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
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This was enough said, for me:
The simple Nature UX interface by Samsung is easy to use and, thanks to the new smart functions, Samsung’s new interface makes the Galaxy S4 even more smarter.
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BarryH_GEG said:
What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/
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One thing is for sure though, Samsung is NOT worried. But they may consider changing their design for next year.

Do You Feel Cheated?

Hi All,
So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera. Personally i am ok with that trade off as i get water proof features and a much better build quality. The pixel density is much more as well.
Rumoured Specs of Active from GSMARENA:
The specs are expected to be the same and the live pictures below confirm it - the device is running on a quad-core 1.9GHz processor with Adreno 320 GPU, which most definitely means a Snapdragon 600 chipset. The screen supposedly has the same size and resolution as the original Galaxy S4 - a 5.0-inch 1080p unit, though it's unclear if it's a Super AMOLED one or not. Strangely enough, the reported pixel density of the phone is 480ppi, so the display might actually be smaller.
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I personally think this is actually the real Flagship from Samsung for this year and not S4, what are your thoughts, do you think you have been cheated by Samsung is you are an S4 owner, or you think it is a part of the market strategy and a must for samsung to consolidate it's numero uno position.

Its 480 dpi not ppi.
So its exactly same actually.

I feel cheated would have preferred a waterproof one as it's always rainy in the UK
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Why should it be DPI? DPI is no measurement for displays ...
Antutu is just showing false information.
Ontopic: Why would anyone feel cheated? It's the exact same phone, plus better durability and minus the 13 MP camera.
And even if it was better, do you sleep worse at night, when there is some faster phone out there? :laugh:

No nothing like that, i still remember people going all out on HTC when HTC one x+ was release saying that how they lost out on a flagship device, when they expected the flagship device the same way for one year. In this case S4 probably would maintain being a flagship for less then 3 months, so a lot of people might feel sad.
For me personally i think it is the right step, maybe this is what they wanted to launch as S4 all along, but probably were not able to complete the tests on time to release it in April.

amankapoor4 said:
So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera.
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What makes it a "much better phone?" It's a "different" phone and I'm willing to bet it'll be more expensive than the SGS4. If it's like other waterproof phones all the ports will have covers on them which is a pain in the ass. So it'll appeal to some people (not everyone wants a red phone) and not to others. But to those that want its features and bought a SGS4 because they didn't know the "Active" was coming I can see them feeling "cheated." I'd also question whether the standard SGS4 accessories will work with the Active which could be a downside for some people.

S4 is the main flagship of Samsung and it will stay that way until S5 comes out.
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1) The screen will not be that bright than normal S4 and probably there will be no air view. Also, dropping will still not be a survival situation for it
2) the battery can't be removed and there is no evidence of sdcard slot yet
3) the top and bottom rubber will scratch and break in time and those 3 buttons are crap, they should use buttons like Back and menu on the original S4
However, that red is nice, but making the original S4 more solid and S4 Active like it's easy with a Spigen Slim Armor. There are ways to make the phone waterproof too.
A great feature is that if you want to make a tea or warm the bath water, you can play a 3D game and then submerge the phone in that water. It will warm the water (S-thermo?)
also, don't forget how many time you guys needed to take the battery out when flashed or just because the phone frozen. I'm curious how you guys will do it now lol
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I don't feel cheated. I probably would have waited and bought the Galaxy S4 Active, except that I was still using an original Droid X. So it really was well past time to upgrade. I guess the fact that it lasted this long without any such protection (or even a case) means I really shouldn't worry so much about dust or moisture.
Hopefully by the time I need my next phone, the "active" version will be waterproof to 5m or more. Now that would be something. I also don't care about dust; but I'd love to see a phone that can withstand sand without a screen protector.

Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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x4sper said:
Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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Where you guys see S4 Pro? I see everywhere S600 :what:
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Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed

amankapoor4 said:
Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed
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Yeah, I'm sick of speculations too. However, most of phones which are water and dust resistant doesn't have bright screen as the S4. You can see the photos, the brightness is minimum I think, but the screen is too reflective because probably is thicker. But of course, let's just wait.

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x4sper said:
Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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I'll only be mad if it has more storage