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Is there anyway to output video playback from the ppc?
The spectec SDIO card is only for pics and presentations, I'm looking for something that can output real video.
I know that you can do it now with slingbox, but I want something portable that i will be able to connect to any TV (like a SDIO card).
Is there any product that can do that?
regardless, I read somewhere that you can stream video from the ppc to your TV using an HTPC (Home Theater PC) and some program called ORBIS. Do you have any idea what are they talking about? I can't find the link for the discussion...
Thanks for any help
There was some news story recently where the reporter was "shooting" video live on his phone and it was being broadcast on TV. This obviously means it's possible, but turning your PPC into a server is a different story.
There is the ActiveSync Remote Display, part of the Windows Mobile Developer Power Toys, but I never tested it to stream video. If it works on the some technology as Remote Desktop, you won't be able to stream video. But try it out.
Good luck,
Matt
oh, i m not alone. i m looking the same thing as well. i m looking (still looking...) something (not SDIO) that can output the pda screen display (and also sound) to tv or monitor. i m using o2 atom, so the only "connection" is either via a special usb cable or a bluetooth device.
kjskho1 said:
oh, i m not alone. i m looking the same thing as well. i m looking (still looking...) something (not SDIO) that can output the pda screen display (and also sound) to tv or monitor. i m using o2 atom, so the only "connection" is either via a special usb cable or a bluetooth device.
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Please make sure you follow my articles. CoolCamera is what you're looking for - it's the best solution for this.
I don't recommend PC -> PPC controllers because of speed issues - not even the, in this respect, fastest (read my remote controller roundup, it has been referenced several times in my articles cross-posted to here) Soti Pocket Controller.
I don't know if this has been discussed anywhere else but...
Does anyone know how I can get the video from my Tilt to show on my Pioneer AVIC-D3 display? I have my Slingbox setup and working on my Tilt and I can get the audio to play through the Bluetooth to the receiver, but I don't see a way to get the video to transfer over. Maybe a wired connection to the Aux Video Input jack?
Any ideas would be appreciated!
Thanks to all...
PCFixer
It's http://orb.com. It turns your home pc into a streaming media server. Hands down better that slingbox.
With ORB you can connect your TV via a TV Tuner Card, or Have Live Secure Webcams with motion capture.
Also If you would like to stream and capture cam video from you mobile device to web you might want to check out comvu.com
You Must Never Ever Owned A SLINGBOX!
jasond said:
It's http://orb.com. It turns your home pc into a streaming media server. Hands down better that slingbox.
With ORB you can connect your TV via a TV Tuner Card, or Have Live Secure Webcams with motion capture.
Also If you would like to stream and capture cam video from you mobile device to web you might want to check out comvu.com
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You must not own a SlingBox, Orb will never ever be better than the SlingBox. Orb buffers all the time, with the SlingBox you get perfect video all the time, don't you know. The newly just released SlingPlayer mobile software is the 8th wonder of the world, Orb don't even come close dude.(LOL)
I like TP function that they could connect to monitor out for presentation, etc..
But would it be better if TP could use TV-Out cable as a TV-In and record some TV programs, and convert into FLV or MPG formats ?
Anyone could develop this idea?
Thanks.
I don't think it has the hosrpower to do that.... Outputting is one thing but receiving a signal and encoding on the fly... Naaaah not gonna happen...
However a small device that plugged into the USB, and essentially streamed video direct to the built ijn memory card would be possible, but somebody would have to create it !
I don't think it can be done, for the same reason you can't just "convert" a TV-out on a PC video card to TV-in. It requires different hardware, which isn't there. That's why you need to buy a video capture card.
Well, you could just point your camera at a TV showing the video source...
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I don't think it can be done, for the same reason you can't just "convert" a TV-out on a PC video card to TV-in. It requires different hardware, which isn't there. That's why you need to buy a video capture card.
Well, you could just point your camera at a TV showing the video source...
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You mis-understand, the device I have in mind IS a video capture card, with USB host facillities, allowing it to use the phone as a USB hard drive to store it's video on, this video could then be played back on the phone !
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You mis-understand, the device I have in mind IS a video capture card, with USB host facillities, allowing it to use the phone as a USB hard drive to store it's video on, this video could then be played back on the phone !
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Yes, I think that's a valid idea, I was actually replying to asiandelight's post, because he mentions the TV-out cable.
I dont have much technical knowledge as well as I am new here also but would like to learn new things.
How can i remotely access my phone via pc/laptop and pc/laptop via phone. What sort of things can i do if so.
For example can i see my laptop camera live on my mobile or mobile camera live on laptop
Is that possible to access remotely windows mobile via android mobile and android mobile via windows mobile (full control like call, sms, data transfer)
I have simple hdtv means without WiFi
How can I connect my sensation with it
It is possible to connect wirelessly with help of any instruments
What sort of things can i do after connecting my mobile with tv like can i see my mobile camera live on my tv
Could somebody please help me
If possible give step by step guide
I would also like to know what sort of accessories do I need specifically
I am sorry if my language is not good
Tulsi Patel
Hi,
I am using the team viewer app to access my pc from the phone. It's very good. I get the whole desktop on my phone screen and I can control it completely.
For accessing phone via web I.am using the remote web desktop. I can use many features as sms mail from the pc.
If you have further questions do ask . Hope this helps
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
Thanks brother
Still two more question remain
Could u pls help me
Thanks again
Tulsi Patel
if you dont have wifi adapter in your tv, do you have LAN ? as in wired option. the model of your tv would have helped.
i have my tv connected to the same router as my pc which is also wifi and thus through dlna i am able to view pictures and music from my phone directly onto the tv. sadly the 3gp format of the video recorded by the sensation doesnt allow me to view the videos made from the camera on it. but other videos on the phone can be viewed on tv.
another nice feature is that videos which ppl post on your facebook wall can be streamed to the tv directly from the phone using an app called twonky server.
if you dont have both wifi or wired connection on the tv then do you have an hdmi cable input in your tv? if so you can buy an adapter which will connect to the usb port of the phone and to the hdmi port of the tv.
hope this helps.
hi
thanks for your response
My tv has LAN and hdmi connection so it means I am able to do wired network but I don't know how to do it. I don't have much technical knowledge but I am able to do that. I only need some hints at key areas.
I want to know both ways to connect. I have wireless internet modem/router with 4 wired port connection at my home. I have laptop, windows mobile 6.1 and latest sensation also. all of them is wifi enabled.
I heard somewhere that regular micro usb to hdmi cable will not support to the sensation. So what sort of hdmi cable or connector do I use?
Furthermore I tried both TeamViewer as well as Remote Web Desktop.
Both works very good between my Sensation and my HP Laptop.
I know it's inappropriate to ask here but if u know about app like TeamViewer and Remote Web Desktop for the windows mobile pls let me know.
Thanks again
Tulsi Patel
To connect the Sensation to the television get an MHL adapter (this is how it looks in practice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-o_VCYd9NA )
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To connect the Sensation to the television get an MHL adapter (this is how it looks in practice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-o_VCYd9NA )
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hey man the hdmi link looked sweet in the video you posted, wondering about the controller. how was that working? that was pretty neat.
Thanks dear NZtechfreak
Last couple of days I haven't got to check this but I will definitely going to buy one.
If u have any idea about any cheap store or online store pls let us know.
I am living in Melbourne
Thanks again
Oh one more thing I will hit the thanks button when I turn on my laptop. I never forget my friends who help me.
Tulsi Patel
I'm looking for some solution to get a live video feed from a phone, or better from a distant PC or IP-cam via phone. Anyone know how to do this?
I've seen the app (Watcher - SmartWatch Camera). Have anyone used it and does it work well? I have not tried it since I don't have a SmartWatch. This is the deal maker/breaker, so I'll only buy it if this works.
So if it does work, how could I get the IP-cam-feed bridged from internet to my mobile and then to my watch? Right now I'm using IP Webcam to put a feed from my phones camera on to the local net, which works great, but I have no idea how to get this video fed from phone to watch which uses Bluetooth...
The developer of the "Watcher" app has another app called "Android Script" which allows you to write your own Sony SmartWatch apps using JavaScript... you might be able to do what you want that way.
Also, the app works really well on my S3. The range is surprisingly good too... I can watch video from anywhere in my house when the phone is in my lounge.
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I'm looking for some solution to get a live video feed from a phone, or better from a distant PC or IP-cam via phone. Anyone know how to do this?
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SmartWatch WebCam Viewer is what you're looking for. I have it pulling a feed from a Foscam I have. Unfortunately it does not appear to support multiple cams so I had to pick the most important from the set of cams I have.
The res on the watch is low, and it is dark to begin with, so viewing a 1080p feed full of light and dark spots due to shade is not that great. But it definitely works. You can adjust the image refresh rate as well. You will most likely need to figure out the URL for the still image for your cam. I already had mine as I needed them for my home automation system. As with everything else with this watch, go into understanding the constraints and benefits it provides and you will be happy.
I just thought I should share this, since the VR Headset has extremely limited functionality through the phone.
There is a dongle available from a company in South Korea that enables PC use (for movies and Youtube) specifically for the 360 VR. It basically converts HDMI output from your graphics card to USB-C and also has a micro-USB secondary connection for controls.
The name of the tool is Vagle VRD-1000 VR Data Transformer. I was able to get one from the US Amazon this week and waiting for it to arrive and test.
The price was not prohibitive compared to HDMI to USB-C capture boxes that run for a few hundred bucks and it seems tailor made for the LG 360 VR.
Cheers
I'm curious to know how this works out for you. Considering you can grab an LG360 VR google set for under $100, would be a fun addition to play with.
And it works
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I'm curious to know how this works out for you. Considering you can grab an LG360 VR google set for under $100, would be a fun addition to play with.
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I've received the adapter this week. It works as advertised for playing individual VR video files and Youtube VR streams. I had to download the VR Player from the manufacturer's website and it appears like a modified version of CodePlex VR Player. It includes a device preset for the LG headset. It also installed the K-lite codec pack and VLC automatically.
Head tracking works, video was a bit jittery as I could only test it on my laptop under W10 with an Intel IGP. The manual specifies Intel Graphics are not recommended. My desktop is sitting waiting for memory modules and I will test again once fixed.
One thing to note - as I connected the glasses through the adapter Windows set them up as a second monitor at their native resolution however I couldn't see anything. The glasses only fired up as I've opened the VR Player. However, after closing the player, the glasses still showed the desktop, but it was rotated by 90 degrees. I will try to rotate the desktop on my PC and see if I can have the picture laid out properly. If it works, it might allow me to play my flight sim on the headset.
Long story short, if you want to watch VR videos on the computer, the dongle will work. I've got the LG 360 VR for $60 off ebay and ended up spending more for the dongle ($90). All together it came down to less than a brand new LG 360 VR bought from LG.
whereto download this vr player?
hi Rothas, I tried to plug lv 360 directly into my NUC which has usb-c (thunderbolt 3, compatible with displayport over usb c), it recognizes it as a display 1440*960. but like you said below, nothing is shown on the goggle. want to try this vr player - you said you had to download from manufacturer's website? can't find the website even , can you help?
thanks
Wei
rothas said:
I've received the adapter this week. It works as advertised for playing individual VR video files and Youtube VR streams. I had to download the VR Player from the manufacturer's website and it appears like a modified version of CodePlex VR Player. It includes a device preset for the LG headset. It also installed the K-lite codec pack and VLC automatically.
Head tracking works, video was a bit jittery as I could only test it on my laptop under W10 with an Intel IGP. The manual specifies Intel Graphics are not recommended. My desktop is sitting waiting for memory modules and I will test again once fixed.
One thing to note - as I connected the glasses through the adapter Windows set them up as a second monitor at their native resolution however I couldn't see anything. The glasses only fired up as I've opened the VR Player. However, after closing the player, the glasses still showed the desktop, but it was rotated by 90 degrees. I will try to rotate the desktop on my PC and see if I can have the picture laid out properly. If it works, it might allow me to play my flight sim on the headset.
Long story short, if you want to watch VR videos on the computer, the dongle will work. I've got the LG 360 VR for $60 off ebay and ended up spending more for the dongle ($90). All together it came down to less than a brand new LG 360 VR bought from LG.
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hi Rothas, I tried to plug lv 360 directly into my NUC which has usb-c (thunderbolt 3, compatible with displayport over usb c), it recognizes it as a display 1440*960. but like you said below, nothing is shown on the goggle. want to try this vr player - you said you had to download from manufacturer's website? can't find the website even , can you help?
thanks
Wei
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VR Player
Good to see you found it, could you let us know if it works on the NUC without the dongle?
Also, make sure you select the LG device in the player, that is what brings the picture up on my headset. Thanks.
It worked !!!
wow, good news everyone, this really rocks: get LG 360 plug in to a displayport over usb c compatible computer (NUC 7th gen for example).
and fires up this vr player - so far the image are 90 degree turned - I am so excited so need to share the news first. will tweak more and let you guys know.
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Good to see you found it, could you let us know if it works on the NUC without the dongle?
Also, make sure you select the LG device in the player, that is what brings the picture up on my headset. Thanks.
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everything works inside vr player once the tracker is set to LG ER1 - I guess it tells VR player to align the orientation from the goggle.
can't seems to get it to work directly - it shows the screen but are 90 degree turned, one clock wise and the other eye counter clockwise, so you can't even change alignment in display setting to fix both eyes
overall I am very happy, just saved $100 on this Vagle if your computer is able to output displayport over USB C directly - it works exactly as the adapter does.
thanks Rothas for this great finding, I wouldn't even think it is possible if I did not read your post.
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wow, good news everyone, this really rocks: get LG 360 plug in to a displayport over usb c compatible computer (NUC 7th gen for example).
and fires up this vr player - so far the image are 90 degree turned - I am so excited so need to share the news first. will tweak more and let you guys know.
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Great
Oh, I forgot to mention to load up the .json preset included with the player, it does something to the viewing plane.
I still haven't tested rotating the display in W10 due to lack of time, I'll post something once I'm done.
I wish I could've saved the $100 but my desktop doesn't have native USB-C :laugh:
Installed the player and it sort of works. I get the 90" rotated display in the player. Unfortunately my windows doesn't see the glasses driver.Any ideas?
I was able to get my hands on a R100 VR headset for a real bargain.
To get it to work in my use case (As FPV glasses for my racing drone) I need help from someone owning the VRD-1000 "transformer":
Could someone owning said converter please open it up and take pictures of both sides of the PCB? I want to gather some information on the SLIMPORT chipset they used so I can hack together my own adapter.
I am not able to purchase the VRD-1000 it here in europe and importing it would cost me over 200 USD which is quite a bummer
Help would be greatly appreciated! Of course Ill share my findings if this leads to something!
VRD-1000
game-genie said:
I was able to get my hands on a R100 VR headset for a real bargain.
To get it to work in my use case (As FPV glasses for my racing drone) I need help from someone owning the VRD-1000 "transformer":
Could someone owning said converter please open it up and take pictures of both sides of the PCB? I want to gather some information on the SLIMPORT chipset they used so I can hack together my own adapter.
I am not able to purchase the VRD-1000 it here in europe and importing it would cost me over 200 USD which is quite a bummer
Help would be greatly appreciated! Of course Ill share my findings if this leads to something!
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You are my hero!
I'll update ASAP with my findings
There was a question about components used in that Data Transformer dongle. It's not a direct answer, but the following press note lists the components used in LG G5 phone and in glasses themselves (google for the following title):
"Analogix and LG Take Mobile VR to the Next Level with LG 360 VR"
The components are:
LG G5: SlimPort ANX7816 transmitter and ANX7418 USB-C switch and controller;
LG 360 VR: SlimPort ANX7737 converter and ANX7402 USB-C controller.
I have a question to alanma75. What happens when you plug LG glasses to your NUC, without starting that VR prlayer? What do you need to do to force the glasses to show anything?
I have access to one Win7 and one Win10 laptops with USB-C interface. When I connect glasses to them, laptops recognize an external display of 1440x960 resolution, I can extend the desktop to that space, I can drag the windows there, but the glasses remain dark. For a moment I thought that simply there is no back-light triggered, but I don't see any activity on those LCD pa panels (yes, I unscrewed the lenses to look directly at LCDs). What needs to be done to kick-start the goggles?
Just picked up one of these headsets for $20, B&H photo has them refurb for that right now. Have had my eyes on these to try and hack and mod a bit.
But reading over the info, it's gonna be a tough one, maybe not really worth it.
The Vagle VRD-1000 is pretty interesting, this PDF has some interesting details about what it does internally:
http://tvlogic.tv/VR/vagle(VRD-1000) Product Profile_v1.0(ENG).pdf
Interesting parts: I see HDMI to Display Port and DDC. DDC appears to be "Display Data Channel" which is an i2c protocol. See here for some info on that and how that fits in to USB - C https://www.mouser.com/applications/usb-type-c-adds-hdmi/
Perhaps DDC is used to instruct the goggles how to display - for instance it's been mentioned of people getting images, but 90 degrees rotation? Perhaps DDC is used to instruct the goggle how to orient the image, etc.
Then also I see mentioned "Coordination info" this is probably motion tracking info I'm guessing. Personally I'm not as interested in this aspect, I'm more interested in just being able to control the displays, maybe get general HDMI input working.
Here is an interesting github project that appears to be using or attempting to use the VRD-1000 along with this headset https://github.com/TrueOpenVR
How about an adapter Type C to USB 3.0, somebody tried, it works?
The code for get orientation data from USB сan be found after decompiled "Vr Player.Trackers.LgeR1360Tracker.dll" (C#, decompiled without problems with using ILSpy). File "Vr Player.Trackers.LgeR1360Tracker.dll is located in the player folder [1][2]
There can do support for SteamVR and other vr programs.
snap3D, it is probably necessary to send the packet over USB to enable it. LG G5 (or Vagle VRD-1000) most likely sends a special package to turn on the displays. Probably it's done so people do not try to connect to the PC. Need to capture the usb packet (from Vagle).
I also have G5 phone (and obviously VR360 glasses light up when LG app is running and glasses proximity sensor is covered; glasses immediately turn off when proximity sensor is uncovered), but unfortunately no access to USB-C analyzers. It would be interesting to see if the glasses connected to PC (via Vagle adapter or directly through USB-C interface) can continue to show the image after initial packet trigger. To test that theory I ordered a "MeeGoPad T09" micro computer (for $130 from "geekbuying" Asian site), which is less than $10 more expensive than the Vagle adapter (and as a bonus I'll have a tiny PC running Win10 OS; you can go even smaller with PC-stick "MeeGoPad T08"; both MeeGoPads have USB-C interface). I'll try to install that proprietary VR player s/w (link provided earlier in this thread) on MeeGoPad and we will see what happens.
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snap3D, it is probably necessary to send the packet over USB to enable it. LG G5 (or Vagle VRD-1000) most likely sends a special package to turn on the displays. Probably it's done so people do not try to connect to the PC. Need to capture the usb packet (from Vagle).
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I think that "USB Packet" might actually be an i2c packet over a wire that's a part of the USB C spec. The DDC "Display Data Channel" signal I mentioned before. So might be easier to reverse engineer than a USB packet would.
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So I took my goggles apart just to look around inside. Noticed these test pads on the main PCB, labelled GND, 5V, D-, D+ and B. So that looks like USB to me, but not sure what B is. These might just be some kind of ISP firmware update pads or something though. I might try to solder a USB A cable to them, plug it in to my computer and see what happens. Also here's a picture of the back side of the board just for info. Let me know if anyone wants a picture of something specific.
0TheRain0, yes, I wonder what will happen.
Does my $75 solution work better LG G4 with the Oneplus loop VR?