Qualcomm's BatteryGuru - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

I saw a new app in the play store from Qualcomm that's made specifically for Snapdragon SoC's like our phone has. It's called BatteryGuru. Just thought I would share the info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
Here's a short write up from Android Central:
Snapdragon BatteryGuru (Beta): is better battery life really just an app install away?
Qualcomm has seemingly out of nowhere released Snapdragon BatteryGuru, an app to help users with devices that have Snapdragon processors make the most out of their batteries. The app has some pretty lofty promises, and with support from the same manufacturer as your processor you'd hope that it would be able to help with battery life a notable amount.
So can Snapdragon BatteryGuru solve the battery woes on your new phone? Hit the break and see our results.
The Snapdragon BatteryGuru will only install on (you guessed it) Snapdragon-powered devices. Luckily with the popularity of the S4 Pro in the recent months, that's a whole lot of phones. I let the app have a go at improving the battery life on my stock Nexus 4. The tutorial when first opening the app gives you a pretty good idea of what the BatteryGuru plans to do. It explains that your phone has dozens of apps constantly syncing to the internet, sometimes unnecessarily, and it can help manage that syncing to improve battery life.
Once you exit setup, you'll see a notification hit your status bar indicating that the app is "In learning mode", and it will notify you when the battery savings start. The idea is that Snapdragon BatteryGuru will "watch" how you use your phone -- which apps are open most often, whether you use Wifi, etc. -- and adjust the sync settings of individual apps accordingly. After 2-4 days (ours popped up in 2), the app will let you know that it has learned all it can, and it is ready to save your battery life.
At this point there's actually nothing to do. The app will continue on its merry way, saving you battery without any user intervention. We would think that because this is an app made by the processor manufacturer that it would be able to offer more than the average battery-saver app, but we're not so convinced that this is the case. On the surface, it seems that the only thing BatteryGuru is doing is changing the sync interval for individual apps, which is always a double-edged sword.
We must admit that in our few days of anecdotal testing, the battery did seem to last longer on our Nexus 4 than it did before installing the app. The other thing we noticed is that we were not getting push email alerts from Gmail anymore -- which is not a good thing. Although I check my Gmail dozens (okay, maybe hundreds) of times a day, BatteryGuru still made the decision to lower its sync interval to save battery life. This is fine for an app like Words With Friends because I really don't need to know when someone makes a play that exact second, but for apps like Gmail and Google Talk, this isn't a good idea.
Thankfully, you can go into BatteryGuru's settings and manually override the interval it has chosen to sync for each app it has access to. The problem being that it's not exactly clear if this will always be the case, or if at some point the app will choose to turn off sync again. For the most important push notifications, I want to be completely certain that I'll receive them.
If you're someone that doesn't always need 100-percent push alerts for items like Gmail, Skype and Google+, and have a Snapdragon-powered device, then BatteryGuru can probably add a bit of a buffer to your battery life. If you absolutely need to have certain apps syncing right on time, then I'd be weary to completely trust this app to manage the sync intervals for you. Go give it a shot at the Play Store link above, and let us know how it works for you.
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I checked it too and its a cool idea for sure! My only personal issue was that it requires location services to function, and I dont use gps in general.
Edit: nevermind, if anonymous feedback is disabled in its settings location services can be turned off and it will still function. Phone's in learning mode, ill report back once its set up.
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If you check Better Battery Stats you will see that this app constantly wakes up the device to check the state of certain services. In one night (in learning mode) I got around 900 wakeups. It has been in battery saving mode since, and its woken my device up 388 times in one night and drains nearly 10%.
My device is better off not using an app that supposedly is supposed to save battery but actually drains more than it saves. Its ironic that every automation app claims to help make things easier and helpful, but in the end everything is worse.
By the way, I have the Galaxy S2 T989 (Hercules) so our devices are pretty similar.

Shmi117 said:
If you check Better Battery Stats you will see that this app constantly wakes up the device to check the state of certain services. In one night (in learning mode) I got around 900 wakeups. It has been in battery saving mode since, and its woken my device up 388 times in one night and drains nearly 10%.
My device is better off not using an app that supposedly is supposed to save battery but actually drains more than it saves. Its ironic that every automation app claims to help make things easier and helpful, but in the end everything is worse.
By the way, I have the Galaxy S2 T989 (Hercules) so our devices are pretty similar.
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It's not in learning mode anymore on my phone and it's not an issue when I look at Better Battery Stats. Current uptime is 12hrs 23min and it's been in Deep Sleep for 9hrs 22min. Consia (com.xiam.snapdragon.app.BatteryGuru) is listed as consuming 17sec on my partial wakelocks. That's really nothing.

Wait you guys need an app specifically to control sync intervals?
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That's a minor, optional feature provided. The point of the the app is to regulate battery consumption based on usage, and we are experimenting with it because the manufacturer of our processor built the app.
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m4570d0n said:
It's not in learning mode anymore on my phone and it's not an issue when I look at Better Battery Stats. Current uptime is 12hrs 23min and it's been in Deep Sleep for 9hrs 22min. Consia (com.xiam.snapdragon.app.BatteryGuru) is listed as consuming 17sec on my partial wakelocks. That's really nothing.
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Out of curiosity, how long did learning mode run for you?
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I'm not retarded lol I'm well aware of the vendor and was able to read and comprehend the op.
What does the app actually do though aside from control sync.
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m4570d0n said:
It's not in learning mode anymore on my phone and it's not an issue when I look at Better Battery Stats. Current uptime is 12hrs 23min and it's been in Deep Sleep for 9hrs 22min. Consia (com.xiam.snapdragon.app.BatteryGuru) is listed as consuming 17sec on my partial wakelocks. That's really nothing.
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Steps To Twenty Hour Battery Life

Ok I have been reading since literally the first day the G2x came out about the "Horrible" battery life of the phone. So, after toying with it for about 8 days I have nailed it down so that the phone gets about 20 hours of Moderate use(Constant texting, internet for emails, YouTube, and searches, and probably about 2 hours of light gaming(not Nova or NFS)). So, Outside of the obvious like make sure your bluetooth, wifi, and GPS are off and turn your display brightness down here are my steps to Better Battery Life.
First - Root The Phone. There is plenty of links and help if you don't know how or have questions about rooting.
Second -(Root Needed) Use Titanium Backup or Antek App Manager(Antek is free) and Freeze or uninstall all the bloatware that you don't use off of your phone. Especially Car Home cause along with people on XDA i have also noticed that it does use a fair amount of battery for NO Reason.(Be careful with My T-mobile and My Device might throw your phone into a force close frenzy)
--For some reason people have been asking exactly what T-Mobile Apps you can freeze/uninstall and the answer is. All of Them. I personally left My T-Mobile(To view Minute Usage) and Wifi Calling(Cause I have no service in some buildings) and froze the rest, but you can get rid of everything you don't want or use.
Third -(Root Needed) Set CPU. Have had this on my G1 and N1 and it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Alternative) Pimp My CPU. I now am using this for my G2x because I am running custom kernal. Personally I like Set CPU better, but do to the fact that Set CPU can't get past 1000 MHz makes it kinda useless for the G2x Tegra 2.
Fourth -(Root Needed) Battery Calibration. There is an App in the Market for this and it is easier and less of a hassle than Factory Reseting the phone. Just charge all the way to 100% and i discharged to 0% and recharged it and Amazing difference in battery life. (And don't doubt the Calibrator cause right after i set it to calibrate the initial 100% got to zero in about 7 hours, but after that one cycle i was getting the 20 hours i am now)
Fifth - Elixir. Not only does this app display anything you might wanna see about your phone (CPU usage, battery temp, battery percentage, memory...) it also has a widget that lets you toggle your internet on/off. Which is almost necessary since "4G" kills battery like no other.
Sixth - Auto Sync. I shouldn't have to put this, but if you don't know your phone is set up to auto sync all your Google apps(Calendar, Gmail, Contacts) and Social Network apps(Facebook,Twitter). So go into settings and make sure that you turn auto sync off.
Now the next steps aren't proven to give extra life, but i did them just in case and well I get 20 hours of use like i said before.
Sixth - Watchdog. This app monitors all the other apps and processes in your phone and will alert you if a rogue app is draining your better life.
Seventh - I did the "Alternate Battery Fix". This involves changing one setting and who knows maybe it does help me get extra juice.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051036
Eighth - Wifi Never sleep. Supposedly according to some if you change wifi to Never Sleep it will stop some loop in the programing which in turn will save battery.
Ninth - Wifi Calling. If you didn't decide to freeze/uninstall this app. Make sure that this is OFF, because whenever you have wifi on it will constantly flip between Wifi Calling and normal radio towers, which once again is bad for your battery life.
Well, Thats that and if y'all can think of anything that i missed or have any questions or ideas let me know! And remember this is a Dual-Core, High-End, Monster Phone and duh if you use it hardcore (Movies, HD Games, tons of web browsing) the battery will die fairly quick.
P.S. Will post a Screen Shot of Uptime for 20 hours later(if it doesn't Re-boot before i get to 20)
Update #1: Have read all the posts and have decided to speak up about a couple things.
Task Killers - I feel like these are brought up in every thread ever created about batteries, and well they are useless. So, if you are gonna bring up the ram usage argument. Android is made to kill programs that are either inactive for to long or the operating system will shut down background tasks if a new app needs the cpu power. Than for those who say that it helps close programs and makes the battery last longer.Having a Task Killer that basically re-closes the same apps over and over again(These are usually bloatware background apps that for some reason never stop running) is not gonna do anything except waste precious battery life on running the task killer itself cause the app will just restart. Your best bet is to run watchdog find the apps that are taking to much battery and freeze/uninstall them.
Managing Apps - Apps like Tasker, Juice Defender, and the like are in my opinion not battery savers at all. They are just tools to implement what i have already previously stated, but that doesn't mean that they aren't useful. They are good if you have a busy schedule and have to constantly turn the internet on and off or switch between certain settings, but they are not actually a cause of better battery just a tool to implement what you could do on your own.
I've done most of those things over the course of the last week and I just got a little over 24 hours on my last charge.
Those tips are legit.
Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
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Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
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good job man i love it most def legit
squidbutt said:
good job man i love it most def legit
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Thanks! haha but if anyone has anything to add let me know I would like this thread to hopefully kill all those other ones away cause I am tired of them cluttering the forum when I am actually looking for something!
Great job! I've been getting about 20hrs of battery life using some of these... now I have more tricks to add =-)
Good job! I'm almost done withall the tweaks and have say it helping. Thanks
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Great tips. I was doing most of those, but have added the calibration software as well as watchdog. I have also found Juice Defender to be a big help.
Thanks again.
this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
If your WiFi calling app can't stay on wifi, you need to fix your wifi network and not your phone.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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Yeah, but on the flip side your an early adopter for technology that literally JUST CAME OUT and so there is no perfected system for it. I mean the version of android we are running right now doesn't even truly support dual-core! So yes this is the price we pay, and if dual core had been out for two years I would completely agree but it hasn't. This is what android has always been built on a semi flawed system but top of the line technology and thanks to the great community we have we can push the limit of every device out there even the g1.
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I meant this for people like myself who live in an area ( or college like me) where you are constantly moving in and out of wifi range and that would take a drain on your battery.
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Wotornot said:
With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
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I will definitely look into tasker and check it out personally and add it to the list later! Thanks!
Update: I have seen programs or apps like this before many moons ago i used a program called wisyncplus and basically it is just profiles. This I guess could be used to increase battery life, but in my opinion apps like this and Juice Defender and what not are simply 1) too much of a hassle - cause you have to usually set up each profile individually 2)This is more of a convenience - It doesn't actually increase battery life it is just a manager almost like a widget.
Than back to your argument about the screen brightness my auto-adjust does just fine depending on the lighting and honestly in less your watching a movie, playing video games, or doing intense web browsing your more than likely not even gonna have your screen on that long. (and to those of you that say the Auto-Adjust doesn't work remember that this is an LCD screen it is lit from behind so it is gonna seem brighter unlike the Nexus S which is lit in the screen making it viewable with less brightness)
Than for automating radios honestly there is already widgets for that. The stock rom comes with a Wifi on/off widget so no complaints there, and elixir(which is a free and very useful app) comes with a apn off/on widget which is really all you need cause in my experience unless my internet is on I see no difference in battery life being GSM preferred over WCDMA preferred.
So in less you really do have a tight schedule, or just don't wanna mess with changing settings manually(and with widgets), Yes, Tasker is perfect cause it basically does everything for you.(even though i am pretty sure there are free apps exactly like Tasker)
(Sorry if this came off kinda rude I don't mean to flame at all just trying to say all of my opinion and back it up as best i can)
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this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
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I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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For the sake of min/maxing battery drain I would think toggling the vibrate after every input would help. I actually like the keyboard without it pulsing all the damn time. And my hearing might be a little sensitive to where I dislike the fart sounding vibrate motor. Haha.
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if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. This is exactly why I am a huge android supporter/early adopter, a car fanatic, and a Mechanical Engineering major. Because I love the individuality of it all and to be able to own something that can be unique to me.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I dont think turning off haptic feedback will really make to much of a difference in terms of battery use.
Our phones are dual core phones, in every test run dual core phones have less of a battery draw because two cpus is better then one. When dealing with a multicore phone/computer the device can have more power without using more energy because there is less stress on the cores. The old way was a bigger battery drainer then this because 1 core would have to use more energy to produce equal amount of power that a 2 core setup would. As spencer said and we have all been saying its more of a software issue then a hardware issue. Imagine loading a computer with 24gbs of memory and have an core i7-Xtream chipset and using windows 7 32bit its pretty much a waste. I believe a lot of the issues that everyone is experiencing will be fixed by a software update or the dev team when roms of the gingerbread nature come out.
Spencer nice post btw!

Battery calibration HELP

So I love the phone but I just can't stand this battery anymore I'm starting to think t mobile gave me a used battery. Ive tried draining the battery to 0 then charging it to 100 nothing. I tried the restart nothing. I work from 8 to 4 and I start the day with 100 and end with 10 if I'm lucky! As I'm typing this its at 87% and its only 9:04. Running services like app pack car home and such are off wifi is off brightness at 50 and I kill tasks a lot with ATK can someone please give me a step by step on how to calibrate even if I have to mod the phone Thank you =)
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I'm having the same issue as well. I just received my phone yesterday and I charged it fully last night and kept it unplugged over night. Overnight it only lost about 3%. But after medium ussage this morning which consisted of checking email/texting/surfing the web, the battery dropped a significant 25% over the course of 40 minutes. Any suggestions?
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Root phone if you havent already
Charge phone to 100%
Flash clockworkrecovery
Boot into recovery and under the advanced menu select "Wipe Battery Stats"
Reboot
Rocco0891 said:
I'm having the same issue as well. I just received my phone yesterday and I charged it fully last night and kept it unplugged over night. Overnight it only lost about 3%. But after medium ussage this morning which consisted of checking email/texting/surfing the web, the battery dropped a significant 25% over the course of 40 minutes. Any suggestions?
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That kind of behavior is normal. The phone loses very little while idle but checking email and web surfing both require a data connection and that uses a lot of power. More usage = faster battery drain.
My galaxy s would easily last a full day with constant email/text and a couple hours of talk. This phone doesn't even seem to be able to last me a few hours. Do you also experience this significant battery loss?
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You prolly need to do a factory reset. For some reason some peoples phones use more power even at idle than they should. My phone was one of them. There is a whole thread about it but pretty much doing a factory reset should correct this issue. Did for me. I get almost twice the battery life of my Galaxy S.
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Root phone if you havent already
Charge phone to 100%
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Boot into recovery and under the advanced menu select "Wipe Battery Stats"
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No need to go into recovery to wipe the stats, just use Battery Calibration(requires root) its in the market and also includes instructions on how to use the app.
Berat said:
No need to go into recovery to wipe the stats, just use Battery Calibration(requires root) its in the market and also includes instructions on how to use the app.
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true story. ive never used it so it didnt come to mind lol.
In the passed hour I've now lost 40%. That can't be right, can it? :/ I'm running everything stock btw and I'm unfamiliar with rooting and things of that nature.
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I had the same problem. I followed the thread below and it worked. I've ben getting 10-15 on moderate-heavy use. I also did the htc battery calibration before I ran the battery calibration app. I use juice defender as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054420
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In the passed hour I've now lost 40%. That can't be right, can it? :/ I'm running everything stock btw and I'm unfamiliar with rooting and things of that nature.
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Check out the link jsauce75 posted. If you are running stock that means you most likely have background services running that are pulling significant battery. You will need to root and then use titanium backup to either remove or freeze those services.
Before doing that thought I would download Battery Monitor Widget. Use it to see how much power (mA) your phone is using. When I first got mine I was draining battery fast and when I used that widget I learned that the phone was using over 100mA even when idle. It was like the phone would never go into a sleep state. After doing a factory reset my phone idles at 1-2mA.
There isnt much you can do about battery drain while you use the phone because the screen and data connection are huge battery drains. All these tips are to improve your power consumption while idling. As I said before all I have done is factory reset and removed unneeded services and I have been getting double the battery life of my Galaxy S with the exact same apps and usage for weeks now.
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In the passed hour I've now lost 40%. That can't be right, can it? :/ I'm running everything stock btw and I'm unfamiliar with rooting and things of that nature.
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1) You said you're using ATK "a lot". This is adding fuel to the fire. ATK is not needed with today's android systems. These apps you see sitting in ATK are sitting dormant. It's like the task manager of a computer. I have 3-4 apps running in my system tray and around 20 other services running in my task manager.. They are all sitting dormant, using zero CPU. They have ram allocated to them. That's it. That's the same as the Android. They are sitting dormant, and they have memory allocated to them. The best thing about the android OS is that it will automatically shut down dormant apps on its own. A PC doesn't do that. So, look at it this way. Let's say I'm on my laptop's battery. I have 20 apps/services running, and they are dormant. They are doing nothing towards drainage of my battery. But, I decide to turn on my screen "a lot" during the day, and kill the apps. Boom... Battery usage for the CPU to turn the screen on, the screen takes away from the battery, usage for the task monitor to be running.. Then, there is a process to shut down the apps, that takes battery.. Then on top of all that.. When the apps restart on their own.. guess what, they have CPU/Battery usage. You're adding fuel to the fire.... a lot of it, imho.
2) Install Watchdog and Titanium Backup (pay the small fee so you can freeze the apps.. or you can learn how to manually remove them yourself. I like using the app). Now, just to prove the point.. Open up ATK... Then go into Watchdog.. You'll see the apps that are running in ATK are not using any CPU. But.. when they do start up/shut down, there is some usage going on that will contribute. So with Titanium backup, freeze the apps. The apps I have frozen: AppPack, Broswer (have dolphin installed instead), Car home (2 of them?), com.android.provider. applications, com.logmein.resecuesecurity and .rescue, email (using gmail instead), My account (2 of them?), nfs shift, nova, street view, tmo TV, tegrazone, telenav, videochat voice dialer, zinio reader, zsprovider. From there, you can see the apps running in watchdog and you don't need ATK.. But, watchdog also uses processor to "monitor" the usage of other apps.. So place the threshold setting at like 40%, and the frequency at 3 or 5min. This will keep Watchdog from using too much battery, but it'll also notify you if an app is running wild on cpu usage. Maybe for 1 day, put the threshold at 30% or maybe even 20%.. so you can see if 1 or 2 apps are using a lot of power. If they are system apps or apps you want.. just leave em be. If they are not, freeze them/uninstall them.
3) I have found that using wifi and wifi calling GREATLY increases my battery life. As soon as I turn on 2g/3g/4g... my battery starts to take a fast dive. Whenever possible, use wifi/wifi calling...
4) Screen down to the lowest brightness setting. Shut off screen manually whneever you are done, or set it to 15sec shut off. I only bump up the brightness when i'm outdoors.. The glare makes the low setting impossible to see the screen.
5) Shut off syncing, bluetooth, and gps unless you need it. If you're around a computer at all where you can get your email and such, there is no need to use the phone for it. I only use tmo's network and syncing when I'm away from work or the house... typically when I'm on the road.
Lastly, yes, some people want to use their phone... use the 4g service.. etc. I understand.. But also understand that if you're going to use the phone like a computer.. and you're going to get 8hrs out of the battery... I say that's pretty dam good. This post is not meant to say that there is nothing wrong w/ the battery... It's to help you out to determine if there is a problem in the first place. There was a guy complaining about battery usage left and right. When I got involved in disussions with him, he admitted that he's on his phone all day long... txting quite a bit. Well.. duh?
I don't doubt there could be some challenges with a bad app running wild, a bad battery, etc. But I also don't doubt there are people who are using the crap out of a dual core phone.. and are doing things themselves to add to the problem... and then they blame the phone.
That's my 2c....
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1) You said you're using ATK "a lot". This is adding fuel to the fire. ATK is not needed with today's android systems. These apps you see sitting in ATK are sitting dormant. It's like the task manager of a computer. I have 3-4 apps running in my system tray and around 20 other services running in my task manager.. They are all sitting dormant, using zero CPU. They have ram allocated to them. That's it. That's the same as the Android. They are sitting dormant, and they have memory allocated to them. The best thing about the android OS is that it will automatically shut down dormant apps on its own. A PC doesn't do that. So, look at it this way. Let's say I'm on my laptop's battery. I have 20 apps/services running, and they are dormant. They are doing nothing towards drainage of my battery. But, I decide to turn on my screen "a lot" during the day, and kill the apps. Boom... Battery usage for the CPU to turn the screen on, the screen takes away from the battery, usage for the task monitor to be running.. Then, there is a process to shut down the apps, that takes battery.. Then on top of all that.. When the apps restart on their own.. guess what, they have CPU/Battery usage. You're adding fuel to the fire.... a lot of it, imho.
2) Install Watchdog and Titanium Backup (pay the small fee so you can freeze the apps.. or you can learn how to manually remove them yourself. I like using the app). Now, just to prove the point.. Open up ATK... Then go into Watchdog.. You'll see the apps that are running in ATK are not using any CPU. But.. when they do start up/shut down, there is some usage going on that will contribute. So with Titanium backup, freeze the apps. The apps I have frozen: AppPack, Broswer (have dolphin installed instead), Car home (2 of them?), com.android.provider. applications, com.logmein.resecuesecurity and .rescue, email (using gmail instead), My account (2 of them?), nfs shift, nova, street view, tmo TV, tegrazone, telenav, videochat voice dialer, zinio reader, zsprovider. From there, you can see the apps running in watchdog and you don't need ATK.. But, watchdog also uses processor to "monitor" the usage of other apps.. So place the threshold setting at like 40%, and the frequency at 3 or 5min. This will keep Watchdog from using too much battery, but it'll also notify you if an app is running wild on cpu usage. Maybe for 1 day, put the threshold at 30% or maybe even 20%.. so you can see if 1 or 2 apps are using a lot of power. If they are system apps or apps you want.. just leave em be. If they are not, freeze them/uninstall them.
3) I have found that using wifi and wifi calling GREATLY increases my battery life. As soon as I turn on 2g/3g/4g... my battery starts to take a fast dive. Whenever possible, use wifi/wifi calling...
4) Screen down to the lowest brightness setting. Shut off screen manually whneever you are done, or set it to 15sec shut off. I only bump up the brightness when i'm outdoors.. The glare makes the low setting impossible to see the screen.
5) Shut off syncing, bluetooth, and gps unless you need it. If you're around a computer at all where you can get your email and such, there is no need to use the phone for it. I only use tmo's network and syncing when I'm away from work or the house... typically when I'm on the road.
Lastly, yes, some people want to use their phone... use the 4g service.. etc. I understand.. But also understand that if you're going to use the phone like a computer.. and you're going to get 8hrs out of the battery... I say that's pretty dam good. This post is not meant to say that there is nothing wrong w/ the battery... It's to help you out to determine if there is a problem in the first place. There was a guy complaining about battery usage left and right. When I got involved in disussions with him, he admitted that he's on his phone all day long... txting quite a bit. Well.. duh?
I don't doubt there could be some challenges with a bad app running wild, a bad battery, etc. But I also don't doubt there are people who are using the crap out of a dual core phone.. and are doing things themselves to add to the problem... and then they blame the phone.
That's my 2c....
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Thanks for the great detailed response. The OP actually was the one who stated he uses ATK, I don't. I looked through the thread with the recommendations for 20+ hour battery life and noticed that those apps you mentioned above required rooting the phone. I hate to sound so naive when it comes to this stuff but i'm a fairly new android user and have not yet discovered a lot of the technical aspects behind it all. I'm not exactly sure what rooting is and what it entails. Is it something you suggest I do? Also, my battery is slowly approaching 0%. Should I let it drain all the way before charging it again? Others suggested letting it drain all the way and doing a factory reset and that seemed to help their issues.
By default Android restricts certain areas of the OS from being accessed by third-party applications (prolly for security reasons). Only problem is a lot of great apps require such access to function properly. In order to give them that access you must root the phone.
Here is the rooting thread. It is extremely easy to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039985
regP said:
By default Android restricts certain areas of the OS from being accessed by third-party applications (prolly for security reasons). Only problem is a lot of great apps require such access to function properly. In order to give them that access you must root the phone.
Here is the rooting thread. It is extremely easy to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039985
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Thanks.
Does rooting affect warranty in any way?
or the ability to perform a factory reset for that matter?
Rocco0891 said:
Thanks for the great detailed response. The OP actually was the one who stated he uses ATK, I don't. I looked through the thread with the recommendations for 20+ hour battery life and noticed that those apps you mentioned above required rooting the phone. I hate to sound so naive when it comes to this stuff but i'm a fairly new android user and have not yet discovered a lot of the technical aspects behind it all. I'm not exactly sure what rooting is and what it entails. Is it something you suggest I do? Also, my battery is slowly approaching 0%. Should I let it drain all the way before charging it again? Others suggested letting it drain all the way and doing a factory reset and that seemed to help their issues.
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New to android is not an excuse, I was a religious crackberry user for the last 8 years, and I just switched over to android last month. I'd suggest you to root you phone so that you can remove the stock cr4pwares, and the ability to install custom ROMs. Took me 10 mins to figured out how to install andriod OS into my hd2, 25 mins to perm rooted and unlocked my g2(this beast is little bit more "lockdown" than the other), and 5 mins to rooted the g2x. Google is your friend, bud. If you want something more out of your g2x, use the "search" button. Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks.
Does rooting affect warranty in any way?
or the ability to perform a factory reset for that matter?
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FYI: I'm a first time android user (smartphone user at that..) and I rooted my phone easily. You can unroot your phone just as easy as you rooted it. It's a 1 click method with that software.. check out the link. Seriously, it's easy.
You may have to have ABD ADB or whatever installed first.. Not sure. I heard about it, and did it... and then rooted.. and it worked.
Thanks for the help guys, appreciate it. I'll let you know how it goes
I'm also having another issue with the phone. I'll see if you guys can help without having to make a new thread.
Yesterday I installed Zedge and downloaded one of the wallpapers there. When I applied the wallpaper I noticed a bit of lag on my home screens, so I reverted back to the default wallpaper and the lag was still there. I deleted the app and wallpaper I downloaded but the lag was still there. I applied a default live wallpaper and the lag disappeared and everything was moving as smoothly as it had been originally, but when I apply the regular wallpaper the lag persists. Any ideas?
now if u do root and remove bloatware what all is safe to remove i have all but my account car home and i think one other can anyone provide a definite list and battery is significantly better after just that
LOL think there's not driver issues. Swapped a dead battery with a fully charges one today and been running almost 2 hours still shows 1%
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[App] Snapdragon™ BatteryGuru

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Play Store link
FAQs - Snapdragon BatteryGuru
I share this app for those who don't know this app and want to test. There is some good feedbacks for other devices. Personnaly I don't use it so don't ask me if battery life is better or worse, test by yourself, share your feedbacks, etc...
That wifi function was what i missed from xperias stamina mode and this has tons more. Hopefully the app keeps at light weight and dont end up drain battery itself.
Looks good! Lets put it to test.
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I just installed it. Not expecting much, but we'll see.
We'll see how this works, seems like it could be decent. It says 4 days to calibrate, so be wary of that, crackflashers!
First night deep sleep battery usage dropped from ~60mAh to 24mAh. Seems like a realdeal. :thumbup:
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In used this on my DNA and noticed no improvement. I wonder what it'll do with the S800. Going to try again.
I installed it & when it came out of the dormant mode to start saving battery for me, it asked me to keep the location sharing always ON in the LG UI settings, which i had disabled to save battery, i don't understand why does it need location ON?
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rkaria1970 said:
I installed it & when it came out of the dormant mode to start saving battery for me, it asked me to keep the location sharing always ON in the LG UI settings, which i had disabled to save battery, i don't understand why does it need location ON?
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I don't understand this either. But.... I am at 52% battery with almost 4 hours off screen time and my location services have been on constantly. I believe I read the location services were to determine when it can turn wifi on and off. I'm not 100% on that.
This app didn't do much on my one.
Imo the g2 doesn't need it
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I will report back when learning mode is done, sucks that it needs the location services turned on,that alone might defeat its purpose I think.
I used it for a couple of days after 4 days of calibration, i can hardly find any difference. Uninstalled it.
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I installed it & when it came out of the dormant mode to start saving battery for me, it asked me to keep the location sharing always ON in the LG UI settings, which i had disabled to save battery, i don't understand why does it need location ON?
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Because it learns places you use wifi and will turn it on and off depending on where you use it.
Guys. The app is designed for people that use their smartphone. Most people leave location services on. Try using your phone with location services OFF and UNINSTAL the app. See how much battery you use. Then use the the app. It causes a HUGE increase in battery. But if you usually leave location off, you won't see much of a difference
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I count about 42% difference on this. My Juicedefender config gives me 96% on average. I'll stick to that.
I've been calibrating for two days and I'm hoping that after calibration has finished, I can just leave my wifi and gps on all the time and it will know when to turn it on and off without my input.
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I've been calibrating for two days and I'm hoping that after calibration has finished, I can just leave my wifi and gps on all the time and it will know when to turn it on and off without my input.
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That's exactly how it works I am a flash aholic though:/ so can't use this app
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I'm not a flashaholic but I'm seriously looking forward to the day I can flash CM onto my Wind D801!!!! I used CM on my S2 and I really see the value in CM!
I just installed it. Not expecting much, but we'll see.
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I just installed it. Not expecting much, but we'll see.
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At least you'll have the inevitable uninstall to look forward to
It's not looking promising but I'll mess with it a few more days just for giggles.
I seem to be using MORE battery after finishing the learning period. In the morning I check a few news sources then don't touch the phone again until about 10am where I've been, according to the Guru battery indicator 99%. This morning I was at 96%.
Besides changing some autosync settings it didn't apear to do much before and seems the same now.

Impact on phone battery life?

I know this will be completely relative to the amount of notifications you have pushed to the sw2 but....what kind of impact are you seeing in regards to your phone's battery life?
Basically, does reduction in phone screen-on time and foreground cpu processes negate the impact of the bt and smartwatch connect running in the background of your phone?
Thanks!
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I know this will be completely relative to the amount of notifications you have pushed to the sw2 but....what kind of impact are you seeing in regards to your phone's battery life?
Basically, does reduction in phone screen-on time and foreground cpu processes negate the impact of the bt and smartwatch connect running in the background of your phone?
Thanks!
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Difficult to quantify accurately without a with and without comparison on a strictly like for like basis but I haven't noticed any significant impact on my phone's battery life. I was worried that maintaining a constant bluetooth link and keeping SmartConnect and the SW's notification elements constantly running in the backgroung (ie, not Greenified) would be a big drain but I've not seen any of this. If anything, not having to constantly get my phone out and turn the screen on everytime it receives some form of message may well be saving my phone's battery - it's certainly been much more convenient for me.
Nexus 5 (rooted, stock 4.4.2)
Prepagan said:
Difficult to quantify accurately without a with and without comparison on a strictly like for like basis but I haven't noticed any significant impact on my phone's battery life. I was worried that maintaining a constant bluetooth link and keeping SmartConnect and the SW's notification elements constantly running in the backgroung (ie, not Greenified) would be a big drain but I've not seen any of this. If anything, not having to constantly get my phone out and turn the screen on everytime it receives some form of message may well be saving my phone's battery - it's certainly been much more convenient for me.
Nexus 5 (rooted, stock 4.4.2)
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Same. I was worried also about BT, but nothing happened Once i saw Smartwatch Map2 consuming battery, but it is gone too. I found some feedbacks about that app consuming battery, but that's another story and always can be uninstalled...
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Thanks! This is exactly what I was hoping to hear.
The SW2 happened to be on sale at Best Buy today, needless to say I'm now part of the club! =)
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Welcome mate! Enjoy your new toy
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I'm pretty satisfied too, it doesn't seem to drain too much the phone battery! The only thing i noticed was the gmail extension for smartwatch, in the first days it seemed to have a little bit more of battery drain compared to the other extensions, so i removed it. With Watchit you can see the notifications of gmail also, so no problems at all welcome to the SW community
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Wore my watch and used my Samsung GS3 (rooted 4.1.2, BoneStock 3.4) and it chewed up battery way faster than normal. Previously my rooted phone could get two days between charges with light usage and definitely through a full day with moderator heavy use. Only extensive GPS use would wear it own under a day. Using SW2 seems to draw just under the GPS draw. I only have the stock Sony extensions for Gmail, messaging, slide show, music, calendar. I read that the Gmail extension draws a lot battery but I can't use other notification apps like Watch It so I push all my email to my Gmail account to get notifications on my watch.
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I have a Note 3 and had this watch since xmas and i can say with all the test i made, with battery monitors, checking wakelocks, trying 2 identical days with and without the watch tethered, there is no significant impact of this watch on the battery life of my Note 3, there is less than 2% difference between the days i have the watch connected and those i dont. That could be considered as a margin of error. Or maybe one day a had a couple more notifications that the other, anyways, there is no significant impact.
my phone battery is bad but I haven't noticed that the battery drain more with the smartwatch 2,
before using the smartwatch 2 I had always running BT on the background (so I can step in to the car and connect with the radio ),
In fact yesterday i uses my smartwatch 2 allot in in place of my phone and my phone fell down when i was home normally it will shut down hours before!
So I think it doesn't effect allot of you'r phone batery.
It's currently chewing up a good 20% plus of my battery consumption. Well, "com.sonyericsson.extras.liveware.extension.userLabel" is chewing up 20% plus. I think that's the long winded name for "Smart Connect", that or the "SmartWatch 2" app.
"com.sonyericsson.extras.liveware.extension.userLabel" under 'included packages' states:
Facebook - Smart Extras
Weather Widget - Smart Extras
Find Phone - Smart Extras
Twitter - Smart Extras
Missed Call - Smart Extras
I'm assuming that however I have those Smart Extras setup determines how much impact it has on the battery i.e. Weather Widget - Smart Extras updating the weather every 15 minutes will eat up more battery then setting it to every 1 hour.
Question: If you install something like "Watchify", and you use that to handle notifications for what is being currently handled by the Smart Extras in the list above, is it safe to remove "Smart Connect"?
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Question: If you install something like "Watchify", and you use that to handle notifications for what is being currently handled by the Smart Extras in the list above, is it safe to remove "Smart Connect"?
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If you remove Smart Connect I believe your watch will loose connection with your phone. At least that's what I found.
Try it for yourself though, easy enough to put back on.
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If you remove Smart Connect I believe your watch will loose connection with your phone. At least that's what I found.
Try it for yourself though, easy enough to put back on.
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Yes I think you're right. Delving deeper in to third party apps it would seem they all use Smart Connect as a kind of vehicle between watch and phone.
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Yes I think you're right. Delving deeper in to third party apps it would seem they all use Smart Connect as a kind of vehicle between watch and phone.
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Wow. As I mentioned earlier, Smart Connect was hogging a good 20%+ battery. I have been monitoring it all day and I've been out at work on my mobile data during that time. Now I've been back home on WiFi only a couple of hours, Smart Connect has dropped right down to 5% battery usage! Would definitely seem as though while its using the mobile data to forward notifications it hits the battery harder then it does over WiFi.
That sort of makes sense as under normal circumstances mobile data, as it's constantly trying to find best signal, always hits the battery harder then WiFi which is generally pretty stable. So factor in Smart Connect and it makes sense.
I really need to see what my phones battery life would be like had I not been charging it on and off throughout the day. I'll try and start at 100% tomorrow morning and just let it run till I'm home and see what percentage it drops and how much of that drop was Smart Connect.
My phone is the Note II. Going forward battery capacity will be high on my priority prerequisite list for my next mobile phone.
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I use 2x battery, to just turn on auto-sync/wifi/3g every 15 minutes, rather than having permanent push. Saves tonnes of power if you can content yourself with that.
It also has a SmartWatch extension which is nice.
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I use 2x battery, to just turn on auto-sync/wifi/3g every 15 minutes, rather than having permanent push. Saves tonnes of power if you can content yourself with that.
It also has a SmartWatch extension which is nice.
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Yes, I also use 2x battery, and I can confirm this. In my opinion the best battery saver out there. And works nicely with the SW2.
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nice trick that 2x battery, data always chews a lot of battery, but with the z ultra, that screen is a killer, alltough i put it on 20% brightness and still see ok, but since i got the SW2 it does drain faster, idk why is that, before i had this toy i could go a solid day listening to grooveshark and googling contantly, now i had to buy a magnetic dock to keep it going.Oh what we do for our gadgets )

[Discussion] Battery Killers

We all want good battery life, that is a given. With the large batteries and the optimized operating systems versions most of us are running today, we all should have it. But often times we don't, why not? Apps with services causing wake lock issues are often to blame. So, I wanted to start this thread to post all apps we have found to either avoid or with workarounds to prevent bad battery life from ensuing.
toshibathomas said:
We all want good battery life, that is a given. With the large batteries and the optimized operating systems versions most of us are running today, we all should have it. But often times we don't, why not? Apps with services causing wake lock issues are often to blame. So, I wanted to start this thread to post all apps we have found to either avoid or with workarounds to prevent bad battery life from ensuing.
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Greenify, Disable Services...Need root though I think
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Greenify, Disable Services...Need root though I think
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The paid version or the free one?
Make sure no apps are running in the background, if you're not gonna be using your phone for a few hours turn your brightness to the lowest possible, make sure your screen shuts off in less settings ect.
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just dont run apps in background, it will drain your battery drastically
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The paid version or the free one?
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both have the same funcionality. the paid one is just a donation to developer, if you like his app.
Is it a 'to kill' or 'most wanted' list bro? How many $'s will be paid?LOL..
Ok, as u can search in xda , there are alot of posts ppl complaining about some cpu and battery hunger background processes and apps .
In my case these was built in "download manager " and "audio effect service".
I removed the 2nd one permanently!
So?
I usually turn auto sync off
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facebook...it consumes about 20% of my battery even without opening it once
unistalled it, no actual need of checking it on the phone
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facebook...it consumes about 20% of my battery even without opening it once
unistalled it, no actual need of checking it on the phone
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I agree, facebook its battery sucker...
Wifi, Scrreen brightness, Auto sync, GPS and games in general seem to be the big culkprits for my battery draining. Even simple things like turning auto rotate off can help a tiny bit for performance and battery life. Limiting your amount of active widgets and screens animations on your fancy launcher can cut down as well on battery and performance. Certain IM apps like facebook chat, skype, and a ton of others will kill your device fast. Google + is known to be a bandwidth hog and batttery killer. I noticed when im browsiing youtube simple things like turning off hd will dramatically help improve battery life because your network is not sucking as much bandwidth.
There is all kinds of stuff to do . It is a constant battle.
Greenify app & use Lean Kernel if possible
Like many have said, apps running in the background are the main culprits of a shirt battery life. Unless you feel those apps are truly essential I recommend uninstalling those apps.
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Using greenify like most of you guys. Yesterday I installed lux lite on a new custom ROM and noticed it was responsible for about 25% of my battery usage over about an hour with the screen on. Anyone with experience with this app know if this is normal behavior?
maches said:
Using greenify like most of you guys. Yesterday I installed lux lite on a new custom ROM and noticed it was responsible for about 25% of my battery usage over about an hour with the screen on. Anyone with experience with this app know if this is normal behavior?
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No issues with lux lite here. I got the paid version and the dusk/night features are great
USB Chargers
I don't know if anyone realizes this, but what I have experienced with my phones(from Nexus One - Nexus 4) I have noticed when I charge my phone through a computer the battery seems to go out faster. When I connect it directly to power it lasts much longer.
Has anyone else noticed this"?
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some antivirus and the Android System, some very drain battery, Custom ROM the best!
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