Which USB hub? - Android Stick & Console Computers General

I was having issues with the stick recognizing a usb ethernet adapter. After rooting, it now recognizes ethernet but only if I connect the adapter directly to the usb port which leaves me no place to plug in a receiver for a remote or keyboard/mouse. I have a USB hub and while the hub works for the remote dongle, ethernet is not recognized if I plug the USB/ethernet adapter into the hub. I'm hoping that the problem is the hub, it is quite old, predates USB 2.0 by a long ways. So I need a recommendation for a hub - any particular one I should use? Powered hub? New power plug for the android stick itself?
Thanks

You must to have powered hub (nice 1A).

I suggest that you can also partly solve the problem using the same configuration that I have: use a Logitech k400 wifi keyboard with integrated trackpad. I attach the wifi unified adapter via an OTG cable using the OTG port.
Frees up the USB port nicely
Thus keyboard also works perfectly with my laptop, nexus 7 and ps3!. It's 40 gbp on the amazon store.
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I used this one it it worked great.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q3RUFK/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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[Q] Usb hub + charging + hdmi possible?

Hi I can't find a definitive answer but I think it is no. Anyway does anyone know if it possible to do the following?
Get TV out (HDMI) + usb host working at same time
Get usb host (hub or not) + charging the tablet
Get hdmi out + usb host + charging.
I think our tab works with the media dock for the 7" tab but can usb host be added as well? The dock for the note 2 looks amazing and should really be available for all devices like this.
Cheers
badasschris said:
Get TV out (HDMI) + usb host working at same time
Get usb host (hub or not) + charging the tablet
Get hdmi out + usb host + charging.
Cheers
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I don't know the technical terms behind this but here's the gist of why this won't work: When you are using the HDMI out or the USB OTG it puts the multi purpose connector into a proprietary mode which will I/O a protocol that works with that particular type of device. So when it is in HDMI mode it is using certain data pins to connect with the HDMI pins, and when it is in USB OTG mode it is using some of the same pins to connect to USB data pins.
It can only be in one mode or the other at once, so if you hooked up a hub to a usb OTG connector, or used a USB OTG hub, the jack on the note is going to be in USB OTG mode/protocol, and it will not recognize an HDMI adapter also connected to the hub as an HDMI device that it supports. Only storage devices, HID input devices, and samsung printers are supported on the USB OTG.
Since this is a hardware restriction, I'm 99% sure it cannot be programmed around. I think the same applies to why you cannot charge while using the USB OTG. As far as I know all the HDMI adapters require a usb power source and will somewhat charge the tablet.
Nirvana388 said:
I don't know the technical terms behind this but here's the gist of why this won't work: When you are using the HDMI out or the USB OTG it puts the multi purpose connector into a proprietary mode which will I/O a protocol that works with that particular type of device. So when it is in HDMI mode it is using certain data pins to connect with the HDMI pins, and when it is in USB OTG mode it is using some of the same pins to connect to USB data pins.
It can only be in one mode or the other at once, so if you hooked up a hub to a usb OTG connector, or used a USB OTG hub, the jack on the note is going to be in USB OTG mode/protocol, and it will not recognize an HDMI adapter also connected to the hub as an HDMI device that it supports. Only storage devices, HID input devices, and samsung printers are supported on the USB OTG.
Since this is a hardware restriction, I'm 99% sure it cannot be programmed around. I think the same applies to why you cannot charge while using the USB OTG. As far as I know all the HDMI adapters require a usb power source and will somewhat charge the tablet.
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Thanks for the info just what I was after, it all sounds like a bummer but not too bad. Sounds like I will need root to connect a ps3 controller then.
badasschris said:
Thanks for the info just what I was after, it all sounds like a bummer but not too bad. Sounds like I will need root to connect a ps3 controller then.
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No need to root for ps3 controller use. My sixaxis works fine using the standard usb adapter. You'll only need to root if you want bluetooth connectivity.

problems with usb otg cable

I recently bought an otg cable for my tab 2 7.0, a d I tried keyboards , mouses and flash drivers, but when I plug a controller of any type, it just powers but the tab doesnt read it,and also when I plug in my phone it just charges without any data transmission .
But I found out recently that by connecting a USB hub I could use the controllers and the phone normally without any problem , so can any one please help me here as I don't want to make a series of connections just to connect a simple controller.
Try plug your external device to the OTG cable first and then plug the OTG to your Tab 2.
ketut.kumajaya said:
Try plug your external device to the OTG cable first and then plug the OTG to your Tab 2.
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Didnt work and i tried the card reader and it doesn't work also
Edit : only wireless mouses and keyboards work
How would it work with a normal hub and it doesn't work without it?
So you could try,
Plug the usb otg
Then plug in a usb hub (with 3/4/6 usb ports on it.)
And I believe it needs to be a power based hub, that would possibly Work then.
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DarkKrypt said:
So you could try,
Plug the usb otg
Then plug in a usb hub (with 3/4/6 usb ports on it.)
And I believe it needs to be a power based hub, that would possibly Work then.
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The problem is that i don't need to plug in a POWERED hub, the ordinary hub works well with it @[email protected]
Sounds to me like you have some sort of a connection issue -captain obvious- and gonna guess your usb on the go cable does not give a solid connection
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can you to be more specific? cause if what you say is correct then how does every thing work when i connect the hub to a damaged cable?
Here's an idea.
My Xperia s could not use a ps3 wired controller it used to say 'power output unavailable etc etc' (but wired mouse and kboard Work fine )
But my Xperia z and Asus tf300 can use the ps3 controller wired with no issues
With shadowgun deadzone, gta 3 , max Payne etc..
This is why I recommended a powered hub.
As mouse and keyboard don't need much power to operate
But the controller does for some odd reason
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i can use a non powered hub without any problem , i don't think it is a power problem at all
the problem is that there is not data transmission with some devices like wired mouses, keyboards and controllers while some others work fine like flash drivers and wireless mouses and keyboards.
But when i plug in a simple USB hub all work just fine the wired and wireless devices.
could it be that the otg doesn't work with usb 2.0 devices?
U need to download an app called usb jostick center 7 its an app that u use so I recognizes the remote(i leave link below) I use my tab 2 7.0 (p3110) with xbox controller with dead trigger, gta vice city, gta3 etc. But u need this app fir it to work!
Regards. Mitchell
Press thanks if I helped!
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Actually i am using Usb Host Controller to see if the device is read by the tab or not, and when i plug in the controller without the hub , nothing is detected at all
Sounds like you have a bad OTG. Check my signature for a good OTG cheap on Amazon ($6.99). Hope this helps.

Slimport and USB connection

Hey guys,
I've been curious, if it's possible to use a slimport adapter and connect it to a display AND have something else connected via the additional charging USB Port.
Such as playing a movie right from a stick with the nexus 5 or a USB keyboard connected at the same time via USB Hub.
Or is there any other option to realise something like this?
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This was the first thing I did when I got my adapter. The port is only for charging sadly...
If keyboard/mouse is all you need, you can always get a bluetooth one. If you need OTG for other stuff though, you'd have to use a wireless mirracast adapter instead of slimport.

Ethernet Adapters Not Detected - Note Pro 12.2

Has anyone else been experiencing problems with ethernet adapters plugged in via micro to USB 2.0 and 3.0? My Note Pro has no issues detecting wired, wireless mice and keyboards. With the ethernet to USB adapters is a whole different story, there is no indication of the ethernet adapter routing data.
I have tried several ethernet adapters, the link state indicators on the ethernet adapters do light up, but once again Android does not give any indication of the connection being established. I have disabled WiFi, and even checked under 'Other Networks' menu on the system settings. Ethernet is listed as an option within the menu, but is disabled and grayed out, with or without the adapter and connection.
The cable has been tested and there are no issues, also I have tested the ethernet adapters with my laptop and my laptop has no issues establishing a connection via the adapter. I have had no luck finding for the solution, some people have reported this issue with other Android devices, but a clear solution is still undefined.
If anyone has a solution, feel free to post your findings.
After all those of us that are having this issue would appreciate a solution.
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Works fine for me using the Apple Ethernet adapter. I also have a USB 3 -> Gig E but that does not work,
See my post here---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50983611&postcount=41
Mike02z said:
Works fine for me using the Apple Ethernet adapter. I also have a USB 3 -> Gig E but that does not work,
See my post here---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50983611&postcount=41
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Here are some of the adapters that I used:
UNITEK USB 3.0
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EHDNAOE/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I/O Crest USB 2.0
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M8I0RM/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I tested both of these adapters with USB 2.0 & 3.0 micro to USB adapters, both garnered the same result. It is odd that even the USB 2.0 adapter.
does not work either.
This bobj ethernet adapter which I had from Toshiba Thrive days works on tab pro 12.2. I must have used an OTG usb adapter to connect it. All are probably 2.0. Don't have a Note.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007RTACDM
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I have also been trying to do this - using a generic device from amazon that was advertised ad supporting my galaxy tabs. Greyed outat first, then suddenly worked - for two days. Since then, the ethernet option has been greyed out in settings, and friends have brought laptops which connect fine so i am sure it is not the cable. . Also had been using the charging port with adapter for months before this to use an external keyboard and mouse. Those no longer work either. Much harder to troubleshoot this tablet than any real computer!

USB Wireless Keyboard/Mouse

Any reason why the shield won't recognize my usb wireless keyboard? I can connect a wired Xbox 360 Controller through my OTG adapter, but when I connect the usb adapter for the mouse/keyboard, it won't recognize that there is a keyboard & mouse connected. My nexus 7 recognizes both when I use it, and so does my galaxy note 3. I'd love to be able to use this as opposed to having to buy a new bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
I'm using a logitech k400 keyboard with the touchpad and a logitech wireless mouse, model mk215, and they're using a unifying receiver.
I went to Best Buy and picked up a Dynex 7 port USB hub that is powered externally, and so far, the powered hub is not making a difference. Still not registering that the wireless keyboard/mouse are connected. Confirmed that hub works when connected to pc as well as my nexus 7, but not on the shield.
This will be supported in the update Monday its in the notes on things updating
I just did the update and plugged in a mouse via OTG cable and it seems to be working fine. Makes stuff like Plants vs Zombies really playable having a mouse.
jclingler5213 said:
Any reason why the shield won't recognize my usb wireless keyboard? I can connect a wired Xbox 360 Controller through my OTG adapter, but when I connect the usb adapter for the mouse/keyboard, it won't recognize that there is a keyboard & mouse connected. My nexus 7 recognizes both when I use it, and so does my galaxy note 3. I'd love to be able to use this as opposed to having to buy a new bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
I'm using a logitech k400 keyboard with the touchpad and a logitech wireless mouse, model mk215, and they're using a unifying receiver.
I went to Best Buy and picked up a Dynex 7 port USB hub that is powered externally, and so far, the powered hub is not making a difference. Still not registering that the wireless keyboard/mouse are connected. Confirmed that hub works when connected to pc as well as my nexus 7, but not on the shield.
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I'm using a K400 and it works just fine. Both the keyboard and mouse pad are working great. I plugged in the OTG connector with the dongle already plugged into it and it wasn't recognized. I had to first plug in the OTG cable and then plug the dongle into the OTG.
The logitech unify devices work great with the Nvidia Shield.
HOWEVER, you MUST install the latest Unify software on a PC, link all the Unify devices to the same Unify transceiver you are going to use in the Shield. After linking everything you want to use, then unplug the Unify dongle and plug it into the Shield.
Why can't these instructions be included somewhere in the Logitech manual that came with my keyboard. What a waste of my time.
jclingler5213 said:
Any reason why the shield won't recognize my usb wireless keyboard? I can connect a wired Xbox 360 Controller through my OTG adapter, but when I connect the usb adapter for the mouse/keyboard, it won't recognize that there is a keyboard & mouse connected. My nexus 7 recognizes both when I use it, and so does my galaxy note 3. I'd love to be able to use this as opposed to having to buy a new bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
I'm using a logitech k400 keyboard with the touchpad and a logitech wireless mouse, model mk215, and they're using a unifying receiver.
I went to Best Buy and picked up a Dynex 7 port USB hub that is powered externally, and so far, the powered hub is not making a difference. Still not registering that the wireless keyboard/mouse are connected. Confirmed that hub works when connected to pc as well as my nexus 7, but not on the shield.
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I agree. What a waste of time replying to a post from over a year ago.

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