Old Smart phone - Android Stick & Console Computers General

I have a Samsung Infuse, screen broke, don't want to thorw a way, is there a way that I can turn into something like this. I would like to use the benifits of its wifi as well. Is it possible or a ROM available that would allow me to connect via my USB port on my TV?

You can give it to me, I'll really appreciate it.

It really depends on the software and what's available. If it has HDMI/MHL video out and OTG USB support... then yea.
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ojohnnyo69 said:
I have a Samsung Infuse, screen broke, don't want to thorw a way, is there a way that I can turn into something like this. I would like to use the benifits of its wifi as well. Is it possible or a ROM available that would allow me to connect via my USB port on my TV?
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The Infuse 4g supports MHL so yeah you can turn it into a Android mini-pc.
Check out youtube for some Infuse/MHL videos.
Buy a MHL adapter that also has an input for external power cause most TVs don't have power over HDMI/MHL

Old phone as android stick
I have several old android phones (2 unrooted, HTC EVO 4Gs and a Samsung Replenish) lying around and want to use them as android mini sticks for my TVs. I'd be using them moslty for streaming video/audio (Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, etc) and checking email, social media, etc.
This brings up a few questions:
1. How do I power it since it only has a mini HDMI port? My TV's HDMI does not provide power. Is there splitter available that will let me plug into the wall and to my TV from the mini HDMI?
2. Do I need special software on the old phone?
3. Can I use another android device as a remote control (via wifi) or do I need to get a fly-mouse or something? I'd prefer using my current android phone or tablet.
I realize that the sticks out there are cheap and more powerful than my old phone, but...why not give this a try?

vtc123 said:
I have several old android phones (2 unrooted, HTC EVO 4Gs and a Samsung Replenish) lying around and want to use them as android mini sticks for my TVs. I'd be using them moslty for streaming video/audio (Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, etc) and checking email, social media, etc.
This brings up a few questions:
1. How do I power it since it only has a mini HDMI port? My TV's HDMI does not provide power. Is there splitter available that will let me plug into the wall and to my TV from the mini HDMI?
2. Do I need special software on the old phone?
3. Can I use another android device as a remote control (via wifi) or do I need to get a fly-mouse or something? I'd prefer using my current android phone or tablet.
I realize that the sticks out there are cheap and more powerful than my old phone, but...why not give this a try?
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Something with a HDMI port is ideal so the Evo 4G would make a great TV stick device. You should be able to use a USB charger and have the HDMI plugged in all at the same time. Thats what I do with my old Droid 3 which has the same ports.
There are apps out there that can let you control one device from another, you may need to be rooted though IIRC.

spunker88 said:
Something with a HDMI port is ideal so the Evo 4G would make a great TV stick device. You should be able to use a USB charger and have the HDMI plugged in all at the same time. Thats what I do with my old Droid 3 which has the same ports.
There are apps out there that can let you control one device from another, you may need to be rooted though IIRC.
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Thank you! I will give it a try.

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USB for HDMI?

Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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It is certainpy possible with a pc. You could use a raspberry pi as a "converter" so you can output to your tv
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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If your device has MHL (Like the HTC EVO 3D), you have HDMI out through the USB port.
You just need an MHL adapter. Other than that, if your phone does not support HDMI out, it won't have it.
USB to HDMI?
You mean hdmi to USB correct? I used this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KI8IMW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
to connect a monitor to my PC via USB 3.0 (has worked like a charm for weeks now.
They are designing a new one, or perhaps it's already out. Search ianker.com if you are looking for something similar.
#UP:
I use the same Very good conventer
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
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In the generic sense, no. As noted above, some mobile devices have USB-style connectors that support MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link), which allow low-cost cables to support HDMI output and/or USB.
For PCs (Windows, Macs and Linux), there are video adapters that can be thought of as video cards that connect via USB (rather than PCI Express, for example). This kind of adapter could work on tablets, phones, etc. if there were a driver written for them, but this is a nontrivial task and the market is unproven, especially as MHL adoption grows.
Jonathan from Plugable
monoprice.com seach usb to hdmi
The only issue is if the device does not have mhl, then as of right now theres no way of gerting it to work in that sense. Even if you use say CM roms they cant take advantage of mhl even id your phone supports it. The devs have stated time and time again its proprietary and will basically never come. Regardless, im much more interested in miracast, simply put wireless hdmi connection to your tv. I have my nexus 7 using it via my ras pi. However its not polished yet and is a similar state to what Ive gotten using samsungs version with a dongle. Check it out if your interested google Android Transporter. Its on the raspberry pi website. They also got it working on the galaxy nexus and some other nexus device's.
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[Q] Smart Phone as Android TV Dongle

I have a Samsung Infuse, screen broke, don't want to thorw a way, is there a way that I can turn into something a TV Dongle. I would like to use the benifits of its wifi as well. Is it possible or a ROM available that would allow me to connect via my USB port on my TV?
if the phone has usb otg get a hdmi adapter for it then you could plug it in the tv.
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what I want is to give it the capabilties of a TV Dongle. The touch pad is broke non responsive. It just seems like a waste of hardware. The TV dongles are basically a Smart Phone (omit the phone). Is there anyway to make this work. A custome ROM maybe that kills the phone but makes use of all else?

MHL OTG

Does anyone have an idea whether its possible to use MHL + OTG with charging on the Skyrocket? Whether it be stock or an aftermarket rom/kernel doesn't matter. I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this phone, but I'm leaning toward not possible.
This is what I planned on ordering. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would assume since the MHL adapter puts the device in charge mode, it wouldn't read the attached usb device (if using a hub or y adapter) since it is not in Host mode. Any have any experiance with this or have any links they can provide. It would be much appreciated!
kennyry said:
Does anyone have an idea whether its possible to use MHL + OTG with charging on the Skyrocket? Whether it be stock or an aftermarket rom/kernel doesn't matter. I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this phone, but I'm leaning toward not possible.
This is what I planned on ordering. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would assume since the MHL adapter puts the device in charge mode, it wouldn't read the attached usb device (if using a hub or y adapter) since it is not in Host mode. Any have any experiance with this or have any links they can provide. It would be much appreciated!
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I have the same cable and mhl works as long add the rom supports it. As for your question I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741583&page=21 and on the last page there is a link for someone who got it to work on as3 however our phones have different pin configuration but you should be able to do the same thing as him
OTG while using MHL sounds like a great way to fry something important on your phone. it's clear the note 2 had something like this in mind with the smart dock. it looks like the smart dock works with the S3 so it could be that the way they designed the usb port it all just works as needed for this.
I'm interested in the usecase/motivation for doing both at the same time if you don't mind sharing.
lart2150 said:
OTG while using MHL sounds like a great way to fry something important on your phone. it's clear the note 2 had something like this in mind with the smart dock. it looks like the smart dock works with the S3 so it could be that the way they designed the usb port it all just works as needed for this.
I'm interested in the usecase/motivation for doing both at the same time if you don't mind sharing.
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Well my Skyrocket screen was destroyed by my youngest son So, I had an idea to use the old phone with the MHL adapter to connect to my TV (which is not a smart TV). The need for the OTG is to plug in peripherals such as kb/mouse, but after further review, i could probably just use bluetooth. The device itself doesn't need to have much storage really, all of the movies are being streamed from my mini home server (DLNA).
So instead of going out and spending 60 on a smart TV adapater, I figured I would try to make use of what I already had, a phone with a broken screen. I'm not even sure the digitizer works and I was unable to find a replacement screen a decent price. The phone has already been replaced with a Nexus 4, so I'm not really concerned with the "safety" of the skyrocket.
I think it would be nice to use it as a TV adapter, surf net, play games watch movies while in bed using a wireless mouse/keyboard.
You would think there would already be something like this out there...
I came across this, then noticed their statement "Use Bluetooth keyboard for wireless control" Which really tells me no OTG... and heard was broken ha.
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streamer-MHL-Charging-Dock/dp/tech-data/B0094M3DZY/ref=de_a_smtd

[Q] Note 4 HDMI In Input for Note 4/Oculus Support

Curious here. Does the Note 4 or any smartphone for that matter have an HDMI In option? In terms of plugging a blu ray player into the device to watch blu rays. Seeing if anyone knows the hardware capabilities of USB connectors on smartphones. Checked out the Note 4 with the Oculus and it looks nice. Would be nice to chill and watch movies in a nice dark environment it offers.
did you say you want to plug a bluray player into your note 4? why? watch the 1080p goodness on your tv at home... "buy" some digital copies for your phone
My thoughts are like yours. Pick up a slingbox and just open a browser on your glasses and you are set. If you are gaming there will be some lag time but if you step up to the $300 setup it's all hdmi 1080p
Bubbled said:
did you say you want to plug a bluray player into your note 4? why? watch the 1080p goodness on your tv at home... "buy" some digital copies for your phone
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ROBOHOLIC said:
My thoughts are like yours. Pick up a slingbox and just open a browser on your glasses and you are set. If you are gaming there will be some lag time but if you step up to the $300 setup it's all hdmi 1080p
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From a gear VR perspective, having HDMI in would be awesome. I can't possibly imagine wirelessly streaming a fast action game to the phone.
Wondering the same thing
Just finished up a DIY VR for my Note 4 and was wondering the same thing. If I could get an HDMI in from the PS4 + a player that can split the image into two on my screen I think I might be in heaven lol. I've been using it for mostly digital copies of videos, and it's pretty awesome. Hope someone comes through with an answer or a solution!
Thanks to all in advance.
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... Does the Note 4 or any smartphone for that matter have an HDMI In option? ...
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No. If you want to watch a Blu Ray, create an MKV or image, and use a player, such as BS Player, VLC, etc, and watch the file that way.
On side note, it makes no sense what you're asking other than just for the challenge of tinkering. You're either going to be home, so you can watch the blu ray on your blu ray player connected to your big tv or you're out and about, and thus are you really going to be bring a blu ray player with you? And there's no way, the phone is going to be able to power a portable usb blu ray drive; probably a DVD too. And I don't think you'll be able to get blu ray drive to work with a USB OTG cable even if you could managed to give the drive enough power to work because it'll probably need additional drivers that haven't been created. Plus, I don't think the microUSB port will have enough throughput.
lovekeiiy said:
No. If you want to watch a Blu Ray, create an MKV or image, and use a player, such as BS Player, VLC, etc, and watch the file that way.
On side note, it makes no sense what you're asking other than just for the challenge of tinkering. You're either going to be home, so you can watch the blu ray on your blu ray player connected to your big tv or you're out and about, and thus are you really going to be bring a blu ray player with you? And there's no way, the phone is going to be able to power a portable usb blu ray drive; probably a DVD too. And I don't think you'll be able to get blu ray drive to work with a USB OTG cable even if you could managed to give the drive enough power to work because it'll probably need additional drivers that haven't been created. Plus, I don't think the microUSB port will have enough throughput.
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I've been looking for video-in on a mobile for some time now. Small high-res. screens are not cheap, and with old phones lying around...
I'm thinking more of FPV than blu-ray. It would be ideal to use my note 4 for a live video feed, and note 2 for telemetry. The less I have to carry around the better.
Has anyone got an answer for this post? I want to do the same.
I want to be able to plug it into my ps3.
Is it possible?
The Note 4 supports HDMI out via MHL, however not input.
Additionally, the Note 4 docks into the Gear VR via the microUSB port, acting as an input device via USB OTG. Unlike previous devices that could use USB and MHL at the same time and use accessories like this smart dock, the Note 4 can only do one or the other. My best guess is this has something to do with the Fast Charge controller and USB OTG and MHL not working at the same time, due to simultaneous power in/out.
Oddly enough, the S6 version of the Gear VR has a microUSB port on the bottom for charging, leading me to believe that Samsung found a solution. If I had to guess, it charges the "old" way while an accessory is plugged in, rather than using fast charging at the same time. Makes sense, honestly, since it would also reduce head, something that would impede performance in VR.
tl;dr: Note 4 only supports video IN, not out, plus the Gear VR uses the microUSB port.
Regarding the S6, however: I have access to an S6 and matching VR at work. I'll try it out and see if my guess is right.
I want to be able to plug it into my ps3.
I don't think the Note 4 or any other smartphone has the required video capture circuitry, unfortunately. You'll just have to settle for USB or wireless video streaming if a Rift stand-in is what you're looking for.
I've already been experimenting a bit with Trinus VR in the meantime, but I don't consider it really satisfactory as a Rift substitute. Guess I'm waiting for the CV1 next year.
MasterTentacles said:
The Note 4 supports HDMI out via MHL, however not input.
Additionally, the Note 4 docks into the Gear VR via the microUSB port, acting as an input device via USB OTG. Unlike previous devices that could use USB and MHL at the same time and use accessories like this smart dock, the Note 4 can only do one or the other. My best guess is this has something to do with the Fast Charge controller and USB OTG and MHL not working at the same time, due to simultaneous power in/out.
Oddly enough, the S6 version of the Gear VR has a microUSB port on the bottom for charging, leading me to believe that Samsung found a solution. If I had to guess, it charges the "old" way while an accessory is plugged in, rather than using fast charging at the same time. Makes sense, honestly, since it would also reduce head, something that would impede performance in VR.
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I think the missing microUSB passthrough on the Note 4 Gear VR is just a design oversight with the Gear VR enclosure, one that could be corrected if someone were willing to break out a soldering iron and a cutting tool. I'd experiment with it myself, but I don't feel like doing irreversible mods to my Gear VR right now.
I doubt it's a USB OTG + MHL issue, considering that Samsung uses an 11-pin microUSB port precisely to get around that limitation that typical 5-pin MHL smartphones have. Look carefully toward the rear of the port, you'll see the extra pins dedicated to MHL.
I can't say I've tested one of those smart docks yet, though. I like the sound of them in theory, but the software still needs to adapt to a desktop experience on-the-fly, and Android just isn't built with that in mind right now.
Pi 2 hdmi screen?
Also interested in this but for use with a raspberry pi 2 model b with full hdmi. The crappy tft hats that are available don't give anywhere close to the resolution. Would be nice to work on code and other stuff while on the go.
I have a note 4 & a old note 2 so if this is possible with either please reply. Also I'm not opposed to taking the note 2 or an old Droid x apart to separate the screen and stock phone mobo if the screens can be connected with ribbon directly to the Pi 2

Picking the right sctive MHL cable for Note 4 ( Enyos SM-N910C 8 core )

Hi all,
I want to use my Note 4 as a PC with connected USB switch and a TV for a monitor.
What I know so far about the MHL cable:
1. It has to be active cable, with a power supply feeding from my 2A phone charger
2. Every article suggests that Note4 has 11 pin USB connector. So I can use it like a PC with such cable.
3. MHL 2.0 can transfer 1080p @ 60fps, Note 4 has MHL 2.0
What do you guys think, what cable you suggest that I should pick?
One would be the following, according to my research:
http://www.amazon.de/CSL-Adapterkab..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1NB4JR4JTSNX4ANBM298
Cheers !
The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
blindskater39 said:
The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
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Hi, my TV is: http://www.samsung.com/fr/support/model/UE40ES6710SXZF
Though I want to be able to do this using every TV that has HDMI
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
dvd_video said:
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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The cable you found should work. You may need a USB hub to use a keyboard and mouse simultaneously. I haven't tried a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse but you might be able to connect 2 devices at the same time?
Since you want to use your note 4 as a computer i recommend you to buy Samsung Smart Dock multimedia hub. I have it and my cracked screen S4 is connected to my TV and i use a wireless keyboard to browse and watch movies from showbox etc... better than any smart tv out there.
if you look on eBay you can get it cheaper, i think i bought mine for $50 almost 2yrs ago. it has 3 usb port for flash drive, keyboard mouse, hdd
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLs5EVv3B1A
mha1021 said:
Since you want to use your note 4 as a computer i recommend you to buy Samsung Smart Dock multimedia hub. I have it and my cracked screen S4 is connected to my TV and i use a wireless keyboard to browse and watch movies from showbox etc... better than any smart tv out there.
if you look on eBay you can get it cheaper, i think i bought mine for $50 almost 2yrs ago. it has 3 usb port for flash drive, keyboard mouse, hdd
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLs5EVv3B1A
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That's nice though, if I was from US that is. Sadly this thing is no where to be found in Bulgaria ...
Check out this review:
http://www.blogyourearth.com/en/smartphone-2/samsung-multimedia-smart-dock-edd-s20jwegsta/5164
Hello, anyone ???
dvd_video said:
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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blindskater39 said:
The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
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blindskater39 said:
The cable you found should work. You may need a USB hub to use a keyboard and mouse simultaneously. I haven't tried a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse but you might be able to connect 2 devices at the same time?
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My Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (N910H) can use MHL cable (11 pins) without external power on my old Samsung TV that doesn't support MHL natively (I have to use USB charger when I connect my old HTC Sensation on the same TV).
I also use Bluetooth Headset & Gamepad at the same time with no lag while on my Gear VR.
But I've never tried all Bluetooth Mouse, Keyboard, Headset & Gamepad...maybe I will try it tonight
Use you charger only to charge your phone when needed
NOTE:
I use 3 old MHL cable with micro USB 5 pins to 11 pins converter & all working well, without external power source.
dvd_video said:
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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Best solution I've found for being able to charge the phone, have USB OTG and MHL out to a TV at the same time is the Samsung Smart Media Dock:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Multimedia-Smart-Galaxy-Series-White/dp/B009KZ3XE6
...they're usually available for ~£20 on ebay. Keyboards/mice etc work fine with it. You have 3x USB ports, HDMI out and stereo headphone out (and I believe the audio over HDMI is capable of 5.1).
The one thing I can't get to work is an Xbox 360 controller (preferred over the PS3 controller I have because I'd rather wired than bluetooth). Works ok with my old S3, but the Note doesn't register it when connected. I don't know if that's a ROM/Kernel issue though, as the S3 ROM/Kernel I use has a module to enable XBox controllers.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Multimedia-Smart-Galaxy-Series-White/dp/B009KZ3XE6
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That's nice but i doubt that these guys will ship the thing to Bulgaria ( It always happens with stuff like that ). Thanks for the replay. At least I will know that to search for

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