Is it possible to dump the whole system from the surface rt? - Microsoft Surface

The rt device is released, and can it be dumped like the android device? If it is possible, can we use this to flash to other android device which used the supported cpu such as tegra2 because the win8 demo version has run on tegra2 pad
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Yes and no.
Of cause you can dump it, and no, you can't flash it to anything else.
Why? Answer is simple: no UEFI on android pads.
But when someone would write an UEFI port for the existing android device - then everything would be possible. Even running unlocked RT that would support sideloading of desktop apps. And this work is already in progress (not by me).

mamaich said:
Yes and no.
Of cause you can dump it, and no, you can't flash it to anything else.
Why? Answer is simple: no UEFI on android pads.
But when someone would write an UEFI port for the existing android device - then everything would be possible. Even running unlocked RT that would support sideloading of desktop apps. And this work is already in progress (not by me).
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There's always a way through - trouble is sharing windows 8 rt system dump is likely illegal so would be distributing a custom rom based on it. Which means there will be little work done on porting it to other devices. I'd love to have a look through a dump though

randomblame said:
I'd love to have a look through a dump though
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Lol.
But yeah the inner geek in me would love to have a windows rt thing running on my nexus 7, even if it's barely working :laugh:

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W7P on an HTC Android device?

You think it will be possible to run Windows 7 Phone on a device originally with Android?
Would be nice to be able to try W7P out
bugzy said:
You think it will be possible to run Windows 7 Phone on a device originally with Android?
Would be nice to be able to try W7P out
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Probably not since W7 is closed source.

Is possible to install linux on Live View mn800 Sony Ericsson?

I need a small device with linux. is possible to install on LiveView mn800 normal linux script? is possible to use keys and write a small program in script lang. Ruby, perl, lua etc.
As the LiveView runs Android (which is Linux-based) then Yes - it is possible.
It's just extremely unlikely that you will be able to install pure Linux unless you are an extremely accomplished coder / developer.
SimonTS said:
It's just extremely unlikely that you will be able to install pure Linux unless you are an extremely accomplished coder / developer.
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An extremely accomplished coder / developer wrote this HOWTO about installing GNU/Linux on any unlocked Android device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780378
Still, if running GNU/Linux is the primary purpose, don't get an Android device, get a x86 laptop.
glupie odzywki
SimonTS said:
As the LiveView runs Android (which is Linux-based) then Yes - it is possible.
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I know what is android and linux. But show me exactly this model. How I can root it. is any blocking installations or other problems. Show me what i can to do this.
I need pure linux.
SimonTS said:
As the LiveView runs Android (which is Linux-based) then Yes - it is possible.
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Wait a minute now. Isn't this that watch-thingy?
No, it does not run Android, and I can't believe Linux neither. It's just a dumb remote control talking bluetooth to an Android device. Probably using some very limited micro controller not capably of much anything at all. Sorry.
How about motorola motactv ? This does run android
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scufutz said:
How about motorola motactv ? This does run android
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From Wikipedia:
It was discovered by an owner named "CMW" (aka. CMWDOTME on Twitter) that by patching the boot kernel and rooting the device, simply replacing the main "launcher" app on the MOTOACTV with almost any Android launcher app from the Market, the MOTOACTV becomes a rather capable watch-sized Android tablet, matching most of the specs of many Android-based phones except for a much reduced size.
The device reports that it is running Android 2.3.4 which according to Google is the same API as Android 2.3 with some minor patches and bug fixes.
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Android x86 4.4 KitKat available and working (except for WiFi)

EDIT 2: See post #21 for an update. From my research, it appears that WiFi will never work in Android on the Surface Pro.
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EDIT 1: See post #13 for an update.
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Looks like it has some WiFi fixes for tablets. And since I'm hating the Win8 OS (for my purposes), I'm going to give this a shot.
Don't see anyone else on the forum that has tried this new 4.4.
I'm downloading it now.
http://www.android-x86.org/releases/releasenote-4-4-rc1
Key Features
The 4.4-RC1 release is based on the Android 4.4.2 (KitKat-MR1 release). We have fixed and added x86 specified code to let the system runs smoothly on x86 platforms, especially for netbooks or tablets. The key features contain
Integrate the ffmpeg as the stagefright-plugins to support much more multimedia files. Now we can play HD and full HD videos in apps.
Use the latest longterm stable kernel 3.10.30 with more drivers enabled. Most netbooks can run Android-x86 in the native resolution.
OpenGL ES hardware acceleration for AMD Radeon and Intel chipsets (not include the PowerVR chips).
Enhance the installer to support upgrade from previous versions (since ics-x86). The text based GUI installer supports ext3/ext2/ntfs/fat32 filesystems.
KitKat style lanucher (Launcher3).
Support Multi-touch, Wifi, Audio, Bluetooth, G-sensor and Camera.
Simulate sdcard by internal storage.
External usb drive and sdcard are auto mounted to /storage/usbX on plugging.
Support hybrid mode of iso images.
Multi-user support (max 8).
Support Ethernet (DHCP only).
Support VM like Qemu and VMware
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CZ Eddie said:
Looks like it has some WiFi fixes for tablets. And since I'm hating the Win8 OS (for my purposes), I'm going to give this a shot.
Don't see anyone else on the forum that has tried this new 4.4.
I'm downloading it now.
http://www.android-x86.org/releases/releasenote-4-4-rc1
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what version i have to download for surface?
icedzed said:
what version i have to download for surface?
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4.4.
hmmm ok, are you sure this is working for the microsoft surface? the RT one? and can i make a dual boot?
icedzed said:
hmmm ok, are you sure this is working for the microsoft surface? the RT one? and can i make a dual boot?
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I didn't say it worked on anything.
And RT is a definite "no". If it does work, it's Surface Pro only.
Bummer, 4.4 doesn't work for me.
I can run the Androidx86 4.3 without any problems.
But the 4.4 just does a kernel panic whenever I try to boot to it.
And there is no use running 4.3 since WiFi doesn't work on it.
icedzed said:
hmmm ok, are you sure this is working for the microsoft surface? the RT one? and can i make a dual boot?
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Surface RT cannot boot any alternative operating system besides Windows RT and its 8.1 update.
Looks like the problem may be fixed with the next release.
2014-03-06 10:17 GMT+08:00 <>:
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> Hi, I have a Surface Pro that I'm trying to install Android on to. I am able to install Android-x86 4.3 onto it without any problem at all.
> But when I use the same installation method for the Android-x86 4.4, I get an error immediately upon attempting the installation.
> The error is:
>
> "BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereferences at (null)"
>
>
> AFAIK, this is a kernel issue?
Probably.
Looks like an efivar issue.
I also encountered efivar issue on other device.
It's probably buggy.
The option is not enabled in 4.3 kernel.
Will disable it in next release.
Thank you for the report.
--
Chih-Wei
Android-x86 project
http://www.android-x86.org
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Maybe if a developer here knows how to disable this "efivar" in the kernel, they could recompile the kernel for us Surface Pro users.
Do not know how long it will be before Android-x86 releases the next version.
Eddie, which installation tut did you use to get 4.3 running on the Pro? I looked at the Android-x86 EFI post and there seems to be a couple on there.
Also have had you boticed any sluggishness when running apps? I'm specifically interested in MCPE to play with my kids, but any info would be great.
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iceflow420 said:
Eddie, which installation tut did you use to get 4.3 running on the Pro? I looked at the Android-x86 EFI post and there seems to be a couple on there.
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I got it installed but did not use any of the guides.
I'd already wiped all original partitions from my hard disk.
So I was booting directly from USB stick.
I created an Ubuntu USB stick using the latest nightly of Ubuntu.
Then added an android folder and tossed all the Android 4.3 files into it.
And then modified the grub file using one online method or another. Don't remember which.
I didn't stick with it though because WiFi doesn't work (known issue) and therefore it's useless to me.
So, I can't help with any usage reports. Sorry.
Can we install the latest Android X86 on the Surface Pro 1?
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I have installed newest version on vaio 14A and almost it is working perfectly . I installed it Sandisk mini usb 16GB .Graphic performance is better than Note 3 ( I have used several benchmark ) . I couldn't installed it on the device's SSD disk . Because it didn't see it . Biggest problem is power consumption and it is very high . Touch screen is very responsive . Auto rotation is not working ( I am using manual rotation) .
Okay, Android 4.4 is now "working" on the Surface Pro thanks to this thread:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-x86/GrPdnpa6XBM
BUT,,,, WiFi is still not working. Bummer.
Anyone know how to get a WiFi driver for the Surface Pro to work in Android? We could always recompile now that this is really the only outstanding issue.
I remembered that Android-IA 4.2.2 has working WiFi on the Surface Pro.
But I can't find the source for it, only the install files.
We can try to get the WiFi driver from it for the 4.4.
https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/2013/android-4.2.2r1-ia3
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/52445-Android-IA-4-2-2-For-Surface-Pro-(with-WiFi-support)
CZ Eddie said:
I remembered that Android-IA 4.2.2 has working WiFi on the Surface Pro.
But I can't find the source for it, only the install files.
We can try to get the WiFi driver from it for the 4.4.
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since i'm new user, can not post with url,so the following url are deleted with http
4.2.2 WITH WIFI WORKING
DOWNLOAD ISO URL ( unzip password is rerede.com)
rerede.com/surface.android-ia.rerede.com.vPRC2.zip
ORIGINAL URL:
rerede.com/thread-12041-1-1.html
CAN ANY ONE EXTRACT THE WIFI DRIVER FROM THIS VERSION?
THE PAGE IS ALL CHINESE, IF YOU HAVE PROBLEM,I CAN HELP TRANSLATE。
uasudoasuod said:
since i'm new user, can not post with url,so the following url are deleted with http
4.2.2 WITH WIFI WORKING
DOWNLOAD ISO URL ( unzip password is rerede.com)
rerede.com/surface.android-ia.rerede.com.vPRC2.zip
ORIGINAL URL:
rerede.com/thread-12041-1-1.html
CAN ANY ONE EXTRACT THE WIFI DRIVER FROM THIS VERSION?
THE PAGE IS ALL CHINESE, IF YOU HAVE PROBLEM,I CAN HELP TRANSLATE。
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Rather than trying to extract the driver from the rerede build, why not just use the driver from the official linux kernel (kernel.org) located in drivers\net\wireless\mwifiex. Im a bit of a noob so I don't know how to do this or if it would even work or not.
Also, I tested out the rerede build and it is quite unstable. Wifi/sound doesn't work half the time, freezes after going in standby mode.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/android-x86/UEFI/android-x86/D85Jq02cLrE/RhTWtOjH3H0J
How to install Android x86
GPT, UEFI, working ARM translator
futaris said:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/android-x86/UEFI/android-x86/D85Jq02cLrE/RhTWtOjH3H0J
How to install Android x86
GPT, UEFI, working ARM translator
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have you tried this on a surface pro?
julz said:
have you tried this on a surface pro?
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Yeah, it works fine on my surface pro (1).
futaris said:
Yeah, it works fine on my surface pro (1).
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Does it work with WiFi?

Windows XP or 9X on Nvidia shield 2016 version

Hey guys..I've seen a lot forums talking about windows on android..and i want to try it out..im on MM now and i want to boot windows(since exagear doesnt work on MM) from sd or hdd.
Has anyone try it?? Is it running smooth??
Any anwser is aprouciated :good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvw9CMMlDJ4
Murph22 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvw9CMMlDJ4
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Ok how about a REAL answer this time?? That is fake...
This one for real?
Anyone can confirm?
Seems way to good to be true!
DeBoX said:
This one for real?
Anyone can confirm?
Seems way to good to be true!
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Fake
You guys do know that Windows requires an x86 CPU right? There are also firmware needs. Most Atom devices can not run Windows because of no firmware support.
I think best way to have Android and Winders on the same device is buy a Windows device and run Bluestacks or Andy or another Android emulation solution.
IF you can find it, there are some builds of x86 BOCHS / etc in apk format that will virtualize an x86 pc on android, but the last device I tried that on was my HTC One M7 and it took about ... 45 minutes minimum to boot up windows

What am I missing?

Hello...I'm trying to get Android working on an older tablet/laptop (Dell Venue 11 Pro i3). No matter which distro/version I try (and I've tried lots, both custom releases and the Android-x86 project), I always end up with no wif or bluetoothi. Android installs and runs no problem every time, but without connectivity...
I'm a newb with this but not with PC tech in general. I assume I am missing a fundamental step in how to install and configure/add wifi support but I can't find a comprehensive set of instructions or even some rough steps as to how I can add support for my wifi chip (Intel).
Can anyone point me to some good reading that will educate me on how to do this? (...or just tell me I'm SOL if it doesn't work after installing)
Thanks much. I've been trying to find this information for many days now for fear of it being something that's obvious to everyone else.
Kevin
hulakai said:
Hello...I'm trying to get Android working on an older tablet/laptop (Dell Venue 11 Pro i3). No matter which distro/version I try (and I've tried lots, both custom releases and the Android-x86 project), I always end up with no wif or bluetoothi. Android installs and runs no problem every time, but without connectivity...
I'm a newb with this but not with PC tech in general. I assume I am missing a fundamental step in how to install and configure/add wifi support but I can't find a comprehensive set of instructions or even some rough steps as to how I can add support for my wifi chip (Intel).
Can anyone point me to some good reading that will educate me on how to do this? (...or just tell me I'm SOL if it doesn't work after installing)
Thanks much. I've been trying to find this information for many days now for fear of it being something that's obvious to everyone else.
Kevin
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You need to make sure that whatever OS you are installing has the correct OS and correct kernel that is built specifically for your device's model number. The kernel is what allows the software to use your hardware, kinda like drivers on PC, if the kernel isn't correct, your hardware doesn't work correctly, regardless of whether the OS works or not.
You need to be using your specific model number to find a compatible ROM/OS for your device.
What is your device's specific model number?
What android version are you trying to install?
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Droidriven said:
You need to make sure that whatever OS you are installing has the correct OS and correct kernel that is built specifically for your device's model number. The kernel is what allows the software to use your hardware, kinda like drivers on PC, if the kernel isn't correct, your hardware doesn't work correctly, regardless of whether the OS works or not.
You need to be using your specific model number to find a compatible ROM/OS for your device.
What is your device's specific model number?
What android version are you trying to install?
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I realize now that I've posted in the wrong place....but I'm referring specifically to Android-x86 and the many variations out there (Remix, Prime, Android x86 Project, another whose name escapes me right now).
I've never seen hardware specific versions of Android x86, but I've always wondered if users need to recompile the kernel for their specific hardware...yet I've never seen that mentioned anywhere.
I don't think I have hardware that's super obscure. Dell Venue Pro 11 (7130 MS)...i3, Intel HD4000 graphics, Qualcomm/Atheros/Dell 1537 wifi/bt. The most recent version I tried was 8.1 from the Android-x86 project site. Each variation I try runs fine in every other way, but without connectivity.

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