Surface by Microsoft, Possible iPad killer - Microsoft Surface

Microsoft is bringing out their own tablet which is said to be a possible iPad killer.
Here's the reveal video. Enjoy.
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Possible? It is an ipad killer! Full featured Windows 8 running a possibly ivy bridge cpu smokes an ipad anyday. And with pen support, OneNote is gonna be sweet to use

That's what Samsung labeled the "Instinct" too: an iPhone Killer. It took them nearly half a decade later to finally do so, with the SGS2.
I really hope Microsoft has really something special to bring to the table.
The key that will dictate their success with this tablet will depend on software (apps) compatibility, selection, & dev support. (Or lack thereof) --IMO
I wish that video highlighted features...
Also like how this guy looks like an obiesed vrs of Steve Jobs lol
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IIRC the x86 one weighs almost a full kilo, and that's without any cases or anything! Keep that in mind

I have to say its a heck of a machine the new windows 8 runs great on a tablet , i've had the chance to use it, so will see how they support it, but so far it should leave a mark in the industry
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I'm afraid of the unannounced pricing. The ARM variant needs to undercut the ipad for it to have a chance. That being said, I really hope it does well. It's about time Apple sees some solid competition.
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Sounds too good to be true!

This seems a very promising development, and the first thing, ever since the Kindle Fire's pricing, that would start to get tablets developed.
That said, the problem is that most of the features (stand, keyboard, pen) touted during the demonstration could be seen by iPad users as gimmicks, many available via accessories. This (along with the app environments) makes the Surface unlikely to steal prior consumers.
What it is more likely to do is grow the market itself. Metro is currently the best tablet UI being pushed (there are possible alternatives like Chameleon, but considering it's on kickstarter one can't really say it's being pushed), and the notion of having a PC-like processor in a tablet is attractive in itself. Hopefully this would drive an entirely new segment of the market - that Ubuntu tablet's been a long time coming.
Where Microsoft made their not-quite-enough-Apple mistake, however, was to announce too early. They didn't even leave a specified date for onlookers to look forward to, and now the estimates are turning into.. October? Consumers don't have that much patience, and by then the hype would have died down. A release two weeks from now would have sent so many people into a frenzy.
Edit: And, of course, the big unknown is the price. I'm not entirely confident that non-Apple people (who demonstrate higher price elasticities) would buy a secondary device that's only priced "competitively" (and, judging from the premium feel Microsoft is trying to give off, probably less than competitively). It could just fade into irrelevancy like many of the Android tablets. The "pro" version is more viable if people see it as able to serve as their main device, but that's coming three months after (October?).

Interesting name choice. I though the op was talking about the old surface at first, but then I saw that they renamed that one pixelsense, and are now calling their tablet the surface. Hmm..
A link about the name change:http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-5...names-its-old-surface-computer-as-pixelsense/

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This seems a very promising development, and the first thing (ever since the Kindle Fire's pricing) that would start to get tablets developed.
That said, the problem is that most of the features (stand, keyboard, pen) touted during the demonstration could be seen by iPad users as gimmicks, many available via accessories. This (along with the app environments) makes the Surface unlikely to steal prior consumers.
What it is more likely to do is grow the market itself. Metro is currently the best tablet UI being pushed (there are possible alternatives like Chameleon, but considering it's on kickstarter one can't really say it's being pushed), and the notion of having a PC-like processor in a tablet is attractive in itself. Hopefully this would drive an entirely new segment of the market (that Ubuntu tablet's been a long time coming).
Where Microsoft made their not-quite-enough-Apple mistake, however, was to announce too early. They didn't even leave a specified date for onlookers to look forward to, and the estimates are turning into.. October? Consumers don't have that much patience, and by then the hype would have died down. A release two weeks from now would have sent so many people into a frenzy.
Edit: And, of course, the big unknown is the price. I'm not entirely confident that non-Apple people (who demonstrate higher price elasticities) would buy a secondary device that's only priced "competitively" (and, judging from the premium feel Microsoft is trying to give off, probably less than competitively). It could just fade into irrelevancy like many of the Android tablets. The "pro" version is more viable if people see it as able to serve as their main device, but that's coming three months after (October?).
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I agree man. That marketing & deployment strategy is gonna ruin them. Microsoft needs to remember they aren't the only people in industry anymore & companies are watching each other's every move. What they introduce that's so groundbreaking today will be matched or surpassed by that October launch.

Its the APPS that we all should be worrying about.....

Good marketing, surface possible iPad killer!!!!!
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i will buy it when it was available in store

Higher quality version of the vid from page 1...

I don't care how good this thing is. The marketing on it is absolutely horrible. Incompatible OS' between the two brother tabs. The pro coming out months after the regular. That seems like either they want everyone to buy the regular, have buyers remorse and then purchase the pro. I also heard they had a deal with Dell that made that happen. not sure.
Even the presentation was bad. Hardly any smiling. As if they're not proud of their product.
They also stole their own name. Lol.
A windows 8 tablet could be amazing. But it's probably no iPad killer. The marketing isn't there to make it be so. Unless when the commercial marketing comes, Microsoft pulls something incredible out of their butt holes.
They've also been quite vague with pricing details. Comparing it similar to an ultra book. More than an iPad. We know Microsoft customers. They want what's cheap. If this will compare to an iPad, the pricing needs to be spot on.
Also, 200th post.

I hope they will offer a low price and drive the whole tablet market prices down with them !

Awesome, simply awesome. I really love the Windows 8 Metro GUI!

I can see it being widespread in the corporate environments, since it runs Office and most native Windows softwares...

Interesting debate. While the surface DEFINITELY beats the ipad in the hardware front with its Intel version containing ultra book class hardware, it still does not have an app ecosystem that can dream to even rival apple's. With 128gb of space and the 3mm keyboard its somewhere in between a laptop and tablet, not a clear placement in either also, it will be really expensive. That said, with the right price, it might be a very good option for those who need some pc- class processing and browsing on the go, cause after everything, ipad is still just a mobile device. Don't expect it to be an ipad killer though I guess I can sum it up in one question.... Would you recommend it for someone who doesn't have a laptop and a tablet? Cause that will be this devices prospective market.
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Live WWDC Keynotes! (New iPhone revealed OMG Video chat over wifi!!!!)

Hey many of us would like to be at WWDC but due to various reasons we aren't so why not follow the keynotes live with pics.
Updating every 2-3 mins its fun to read and see pics live. Its here.
Some of the updates which i liked below:
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10:37 PM "It is magical, I know it because I got this email: I was sitting in a café with my iPad, and it got a girl interested in me!." "So there’s proof." Huge cheers.
10:41PM "A friend of mine wrote this, and he sent me an email and he said I could use it. I earned more in the first day of selling Elements than I did in the past 5 years of Google ads on periodictable.com" Ouch
11:04PM "And it’s really thin. This is the new iPhone 4." Leaks were real then?
11:04PM "You gotta see this in person. This is beyond the doubt, the most precise thing, and one of the most beautiful we’ve ever made. Glass on the front and back, and steel around the sides. It’s like a beautiful old Leica camera."
11:05PM "As a matter of fact, it is the thinnest smartphone on the planet." O’rly?
11:05PM "It is 24% thinner than the iPhone 3GS."
11:21PM Dual mics, 802.11n WiFi, GPS, compass, accelerometer.
11:21PM Quad band HSDPA, 7.2Mbps
11:21PM Big cheers for that.
11:21PM "Number four, we have another new piece of hardware. We’re adding a gyroscope."
12:08PM "We made a little video to show some of the ways people might use it."
12:08PM "So FaceTime video calling. We’re really happy with this."
12:23AM "We developed a glass that’s 30 times harder than plastic."
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Looks like apple is having the same problems as google did with the WIFI there.
You would think that apple would of done something about concidering they came weeks after google and had to of watched their presentation.
And it looks like they won't be able to show some of the key features on the iphone 4... On day one it already gets a black eye.
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Respectfully, I don´t think this information is relevant to XDA
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oh okay orb no problem, xda is a win mob fan site (Me too ) but same time there are some apple fan boys here. This might be useful for them ha ha
It is relevant as most users here are used to phone hardware that is far more advanced than the iPhone.
Not anymore. Yes iPhone OS still sucks and of course there is no hardware keyboard, but the new phones display alone is enough to make me a little jealous. 960x640 makes the 800x480 screen on my Rhodium feel like QVGA. When will WE get display's like this? WinMo obviously never will, and WP7 only supports up to 800x480.
I assume Android could support this resolution, but when? Imagine the HD2's 4.3" display at 960x640! LCD pr0n it would be. HTC needs to get on this quickly.
Wow impressive, Video chat over wi-fi and the app which enables this is FaceTime. Cool.
video chat and the book apps is just bs. On the other hand - the screen, the camera (+LED flash), the processor, and the antenna seem like good innovations. Hate to say it, but... Well done, Apple.
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Respectfully, I don´t think this information is relevant to XDA
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Orb, it is COMPLELTY relevant to XDA
It proves what a fail the iphone is
Badwolve1 said:
Orb, it is COMPLELTY relevant to XDA
It proves what a fail the iphone is
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BTW, guys the glass used is 30 times stronger than plastic, really?
Badwolve1 said:
Orb, it is COMPLELTY relevant to XDA
It proves what a fail the iphone is
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You are right mate
I really hate to sound even a tiny bit pro Apple but what exactly about this new iPhone is fail? Besides the screen size it meets or bests the HD2 in the hardware department. The 960x640 resolution is well beyond anything HTC has produced (or plans to?); considering one of the main perks of our WinMo and Android phones has been the high resolution screens this point alone is pretty important.
Imagine Android hacked onto this new iPhone. Might make it arguably the best non-hardware-keyboard phone out there currently.
Hardware keyboard is still a requirement for me so it is an obvious no go. HTC has some catching up to do now, I do hope they soon announce a new Android phone with as high of a greater a resolution (and screen size, obviously) than the new iPhone.
I agree with MooGoo, further what i have heard is this new iPhone 4G has only 256 MB Ram and dont know how they though that they are going to do multitasking with that?? Either the Phone will slow down or battery power leak or can't open as many application as on win mob. But who knows may be they have done something innovative for that too.
Hardware seems nice. Software is disappointing though, I was expecting them to more towards the cloud a bit more and maybe cut that iTunes leash.

[Q] Which Tablet do i get for $200 or less?

Soo Black friday coming up and it looks like there are going to be several deals on tablets out there.
Anyone have any suggestions on which one to get?
I'm hoping to use it for browsing around the house, watching movies on vacation, and various other uses(hoping there's a vnc client out there so i can use it to vnc into my HTPC.), also hoping for something w/marketplace access
I don't need one w/ celluar i have enough devices i can get internet from when i'm out and about.
Here's what i've seen so far
Kmart - Sylvania 7.1" comes w/2.1 Wi-Fi - $139.99
Toys R US - Sylcania 7.1" comes w/2.1 Wi-FI - $139.99
Hastings - Sylvania 7" WiFi Tablet w/ Android O/S 1GHz ARM 11 Processor 256MB RAM 2GB Hard Drive - $149.99
They all look to be the same tablet although each add words the device differently. Best buy has a couple of E-reader devices listed however i'm not sure if any of those could be rooted and flashed.(nook, cruz e-reader)
I've never rooted an android phone but am technically capable of doing so.
If this question has been asked and answered then please forgive my failure of using a search engine in an attempt to find an answer. Any and all helpful input is greatly appreciated.
it's 200, but euros:
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me too
I've been looking at those too. I think they are all the same model. The Sylavania 7" has a 1ghz processor, 256/512 memory, TFT Resistive screen, 480x800
I've been doing a lot of research and it seems like a winner for a cheap tablet. It lacks Android Market but you can manually install APK's (these are the install files) from the SD Card. Plus there are alternative markets.
The only bad thing I see is the Resistive screen. I guess it isn't a kill joy but lots of android games use multitouch.
I'm actually wanting to buy it for my 4 year old son. He's showing a huge interest in my Nexus One and loves games like Angry Birds and stupid Basketball games and such. I figured it would serve as a decent web browser from the couch.
Supposedly the USB ports don't work out of the box, and the headphone jack is only mono. There are reports that an upcoming software update is supposed to fix them.
I'm new to the tablets, but supposedly the Sylvania is faster and more responsive then other 800mhz android tablets. So I am in the same boat. The Sylvania is around $119-139 which seems to fit the bill for my 4 year old. Anything else that compares that is rootable and upgradable from a rom standpoint.
All of these are resistive touch screen. I wouldn't pay $5.00 for a resistive touch screen on any device. So they have decent CPUs and ram, they run flash and can/will run Froyo? If they have a resistive touch screen, it's pretty much pointless. It's like using a ball mouse with my gaming PC, it just doesn't make sense to me. Just my opinion, nothing more or less.
Side note, for about $75-$100 more you could get a nice capactive touch screen tablet with even more features. Archos 70, herotab and a few others.
wth my post is gone.
Take 2:
Basically if I was buying one for myself, yea sure I would get a Capacitive touch. Lots of Android features requires it. But I'm more intested in the price point of $139. I'm looking for an Android tablet that will run games like Angry Birds and stupid basketball games for my 4 year old.
When he's not using it I might use it for couch surfing or something... but basically it is a toy for my child.
I'm not sure what the OP's primary uses are, but I'm looking for a cheap Android Tablet that has at least 2.1 on it and decent memory specs. I've been doing a lot of research tonight and I think the Sylvania is a winner. Lots of people are saying the run faster then most of the low dollar tablets out there.
One major flaw is the battery life is 3 hours. For me it isn't a problem as no one in my house should be on it for 3 hours. I just want to be able to throw a few silly games on it to keep my kid entertained and off my Nexus One.
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I just saw a post for the Maylong M-150 Tablet and it looks promising
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808961
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yybv6XCrO4Q
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wth my post is gone.
Take 2:
Basically if I was buying one for myself, yea sure I would get a Capacitive touch. Lots of Android features requires it. But I'm more intested in the price point of $139. I'm looking for an Android tablet that will run games like Angry Birds and stupid basketball games for my 4 year old.
When he's not using it I might use it for couch surfing or something... but basically it is a toy for my child.
I'm not sure what the OP's primary uses are, but I'm looking for a cheap Android Tablet that has at least 2.1 on it and decent memory specs. I've been doing a lot of research tonight and I think the Sylvania is a winner. Lots of people are saying the run faster then most of the low dollar tablets out there.
One major flaw is the battery life is 3 hours. For me it isn't a problem as no one in my house should be on it for 3 hours. I just want to be able to throw a few silly games on it to keep my kid entertained and off my Nexus One.
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For the kids, yeah it's a great price and product. I would much rather my kid have a tablet in his/her hands than a game controller. At least there is more of a chance they might actually learn something.
I ended up getting the sylvania and i am loving it. I have market working and Over on xda someone noticed a process called cell stand by was running and eating up the battery. Once i followed their lead and unistalled some apps they said to i am getting much better battery life on my sylvania. I am going on 3 hours of mixed use/standy and till have 61% battery remaining.
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I ended up getting the HeroTab X5A from Merimobiles.com for $149.
800mhz
7" Resistive Touch w/ Multitouch
G-Sensor
Capacitive touch controls on the side
Glass top, metal surround
Android 2.1 w/ Market
Looks like it runs great.
http://www.merimobiles.com/Herotab_X5A_Multitouch_Gsensor_800Mhz_Android_2_1_p/meri0524.htm
Yea I've been playing with it. I loaded up Angry Birds and a few games he likes to test before putting it back in the box.
Yes it does have multitouch. I loaded Launcher Pro and lots of little apps. Runs great. The only issue is the only Widget available is Google Search. Supposedly the latest Firmware update fixes it but I had already wrapped it up for Christmas.

Samsung's Master Plan

Warning: There might be two possible interpretations of this post, either Samsung is a company full of strategic masterminds, hell bent on sabotaging their competition and capturing the mobile market; or I am stark raving mad.
While going through the latest leaks regarding the expected top-end Android devices to be launched at this year’s Mobile World Congress, I was overwhelmed with conflicting emotions. Both HTC’s One X and LG’s Optimus 4X HD seemed like stellar devices, with huge high-def screens, blazing quad-core processors, amazing cameras - in short, the whole shebang! But, one thought kept gnawing at me the whole time. No consumer would ever consider buying these devices before seeing what Samsung had in its arsenal!
Suddenly, Samsung’s whole master plan unravelled right in front of me. They are going to let their competitors do their thing and let them be happy releasing their shiny new quad-core devices in peace. The whole tech-journalism community would be alight with praises about how mind-blowing HTC’s One X is or how blazingly fast the 4X HD is, but as soon as their honeymoon period ends, BAM! Here comes the SGS III and takes away all the press and consumer attention right from under their noses! No phone, save the iPhone 5 is as insanely anticipated as the successor to the wildly popular SGS II and you could expect excessive fanfare to follow its release.
See, the point is that if Samsung had launched the SGS III at MWC, no matter how good, it would still be considered a competitor to the One X and 4X HD. Every tech site would have posts like “Android Showdown: SGS III vs One X vs 4X HD”. It would become one of the many of quad-core smartphones released at MWC. That is not what Samsung wants. What they want is to make it rise above the competition. By launching the SGS III a few weeks later, they ensure that tech sites would be rife with posts like “The Galaxy S III is the best smartphone ever made. PERIOD.”
And it seems like they are successful in their plans.
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Supposed Specs Of SGS 3
Quad-Core [email protected] 1.5 GHz
4.8'' Super AMOLED Plus HD [email protected] 720x1280 pixels
4G Enabled
12 MP Rear Camera
Samsung knows that even HTC & LG announced their Quad-Core flagship at MWC, it will still take them months to come to market. They will just wait for the MWC buzz to die down, and as soon as it does, not only will they announce the SGS III, but they’ll pull a page out of Apple’s book and release the device within a week! So basically, even though it would be announced after its rivals, the SGS III will be available on the market before them, completely decimating the competition. Let’s face facts; no consumer would skip out on buying the Samsung Galaxy S III to wait for an HTC One X or an LG Optimus 4X HD. Even if it is a minutely inferior device, its brand recognition, market buzz and market availability would propel it forward by leaps and bounds.
I reiterate, I might be completely insane and Samsung might just be waiting to finish up the device and make sure it’s awesome enough. But the fact that Samsung already plans to introduce Ice Cream Sandwich devices like the Galaxy Note 10.1, makes me pause for thought. If both the software and hardware components are ready, then why are they delaying it? Shouldn’t the successor to the most popular device they’ve ever had be a much higher priority than those of less successful devices? One can only wonder, but if what I think is true, then Samsung is one clever company indeed. Check mate, HTC and LG, check mate!
Well, I think you are assuming that ti whole world is a savvy tech freak like the members of this forum but the general masses don't care if their phone says samsung, LG or HTC. The general masses will never root or even install a custom launcher. The gen public will never us the phones to their current capabilities.
IMO Apple is in a whole different boat. Marketing savants that tell people how easy to use and friendly their devices are. They have built in traffic that heard together like sheep. Animal Farm anyone?
We know samsung makes stellar products but if they keep marketing in the US like they currently are we will continue to see a lack of buzz. Hell the GNex is one badass phone but people go Ino Verizon for a RZR and not a GNex... Marketing people - its a simple formula!
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Brand matters for the masses, or they'll buy cheap chinese stuff. And believe me, the hot topic in the tech world is none other than the S 2's successor.
quite frankly , i think HTC (and hopefully LG ) will have a bit advantage as they would be kind of settled in the market (& possibly dropped their price by a bit) by the time SGS3 has been released. It will all depend on experience SGS3 really offers (other than the configuration on papers rite now), i have used both Samsung & HTC and i would select HTC anytime for best android experience, price is the strong factor keeping sammy ahead of others. So let’s wait & watch
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Well, I think you are assuming that ti whole world is a savvy tech freak like the members of this forum but the general masses don't care if their phone says samsung, LG or HTC. The general masses will never root or even install a custom launcher. The gen public will never us the phones to their current capabilities.
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The Galaxy S series does have good brand-name value, though, maybe second only to the iPhone. Samsung may have realized that and taken a leaf out of Apple's book: allow the hype to take over. It has nothing to do with rooting or custom launchers, or geekiness.
I find the OP's story plausible. (Albeit exaggerating at times: consumers would and have bought the HTC One X.)
I would hands down buy the SGS3 over the HTC ONe X if they were released together, but the fact of the matter is that I hate waiting on this ghost device with all these so called great specs and samsung's track record does not sit to well with me right now.

I have the feeling OUYA will be a huge failure.

I remember all the hype for this Android based console that was supposed to revolutionize the mobile gaming industry but I feel that they have waited far too long, you can already get similar spec'ed Android stick computers for basically the same price. The only thing I now can see going for the OUYA is maybe the controller aside from the good looking case but looks don't matter when the cards are on the table and the sad fact is that the Nexus 7 is just as powerful as the OUYA is going to be, not to mention the Nexus 7.7 will be announced soon this year which will most likely drop the price of the Nexus 7 which will make that $99 standpoint of the OUYA look not so good compared to the portability of a similar spec'ed tablet.
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Confirmed specs are,
Tegra3 Quad core
1GB of ram
8GB of internal ROM space
HDMI connector at 1080P
Wifi 802.11 B/G/N
ONE usb port
Android 4.0 ICS "NOT EVEN JELLY BEAN <.<" The community probably will quickly fix that though.
1 Wireless Controller
Compare that to the devices already announced "Nexus 5, Galaxy S4, Nexus 7.7, Galaxy Tab 3, HTC M7, Galaxy note 8.0... The list goes on.
And if you want to compare it to whats out now that will be price dropping this year "Nexus 7" Then the OUYA just doesn't fit in the "Good deal" Scene point of view. Lets not forget The Exynos 5 which will most likely find it sway into more tablets and phones alike and the Tegra4 which "If you have paid attention to what Nvidia has been saying" Is going to be their thinnest, most powerful mobile processor on the market which will be as much as 6X faster compared to previous Tegra based devices.
Source http://www.anandtech.com/show/6666/the-tegra-4-gpu-nvidia-claims-better-performance-than-ipad-4
I say why buy a console and stay at home when you can buy a Tablet and bring it with you anywhere.
I don't understand why so many people are worried about this being "underpowered" So what if the Tegra 3 comes out this year. New tech is always coming out! It's not like all the games that are released from now on will suddenly *need* a Tegra 4 to play them. And it was announced a long time ago it would have Jelly Bean, whatever press release you have may have the info wrong. Also, I highly highly doubt the Nexus 7 will drop in price. It will just be dropped completely when a new Nexus comes out. The Galaxy Nexus didn't drop in price when the Nexus 4 came out, it just stopped being sold by Google! And yes this is more powerful than the 7 anyway because it has a fan, and is overclocked as batteries not a concern.
People need to stop looking at this from the "what is the hardware" stand point, and look at it from the "what is the opportunity" stand point. It's a great spec'd android dedicated TV box, that should have a huge cult following! Isn't that awesome? Isn't that what this site is all about. XBMC, modding, emulators, homebrew games. Have a little sense of adventure man.
I would imagine it can be hard to predict how well a product will do, probably a lot of factors need to be analyzed..
I feel there is a market for it but not sure how large ....Im not sure how good nintendo ds devices specs are these days but seemed a few years ago they where crappy and similar to gameboy or gamegear in gfx look.....my point is people are still buying and using nintendo ds......
Oh and products kind of go viral too....if they come from something well known or similar.. im not sure the fact it's android based will be something that pushes people to buy it though.
I remember when the original xbox was about to come out everyone was such a sony playstation fanboy and a lot of people didn't really want an xbox...and people wheren't interested in specs it was all about playstation2/sony being a known brand so they will have a better product.
seems now miscrosoft has won over a lot of playstation fans from back then.
i won't go into depth about movie trailers and movie quality and video games.
I don't buy a mmo until atleast 6 months after its release any more and if i have any interest i just follow it those 6 month via video reviews and forums.
But um basically my point is i gave up on trying to predict or be an early adopter or having hope in products.. i just wait and see and try not to waste brain power or money guessing . so if i do guess i just go with my first gut instinct and wait and see....my gut says....
OUYA won't be a huge financial success but could lead to or inspire something better down the line but i think tablet gaming is the future...just hook up the tablet or phone to the tv and play if you want so i don't really see the point in OUYA.
Odp: I have the feeling OUYA will be a huge failure.
Its not important what OUYA will be... Its exciting what "ouya" gen2, gen3 will be. However i think better option is smartphone+tv+2 pads. OR nexus Q as a gaming center.... Just dreaming...
In my personal life I can't see it being useful at all. But I don't think it'll be a failure.
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failure? really don't think so.
it will be always cheaper due to no need have a screen and battery and rugged body.
there will be huge and on growing selection of games.
it could be used as a great media streamer with the right adjustments.
and all of that for 99$? it will be godlike device.

The smartphone of the future - how should it look like?

From my early years I was trying to create the ideal design of a phone. But then Steve Jobs ruined all my illusions with totally changing the path evolution of smartphones. But you can't stop the progress, and the smartphone of the future must blow up our minds as much as iPhone did. But how must it look and which functions must it be capable of?
These points with me :
1. Let's forgot the battery
2. Update hardware with OTA
3. No Chinese pirated app stores ...
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The original iPhone was a PDA without a pen. There was nothing remotelly mind blowing about it.
In need op 10 posts, are you? Rules, we have them for a reason.
On the topic though: Google Contact Lenses. That'd be great...
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The original iPhone was a PDA without a pen. There was nothing remotelly mind blowing about it.
In need op 10 posts, are you? Rules, we have them for a reason.
On the topic though: Google Contact Lenses. That'd be great...
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IPhone really was a PDA without a pen - but if it is so easy figure out the usability of such a product why nobody did?
And look here: there are a few models with pen on the market and the most - without. I think this is the confirmation of my words. (Nevertheless, I like Android more then iPhone)
10 posts - yes, you were right. But my comments and posts can not be supposed as "spam" - I am trying to write useful staff,
Google Contact Lenses - sounds cool
Thanks for reading this
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IPhone really was a PDA without a pen - but if it is so easy figure out the usability of such a product why nobody did?
And look here: there are a few models with pen on the market and the most - without. I think this is the confirmation of my words. (Nevertheless, I like Android more then iPhone)
10 posts - yes, you were right. But my comments and posts can not be supposed as "spam" - I am trying to write useful staff,
Google Contact Lenses - sounds cool
Thanks for reading this
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Nobody did it because the touch screens weren't very good at registering fingers at the time, and the PDA was for the professional user to keep notes, not the general population.
Apple improved the screen to register fingertips (which it still didn't always do very well. You couldn't write on it for sh*t, and half the time it didn't register a touch.), but a single step improvement is by no means mindblowing. There were plenty of computer displays that already used tip-touchscreens; you found them in shops, factories... Apple just made the screen smaller.
What was mindblowing about Apple's launch of the iPhone was their exceptional marketing strategy. As much as I dislike their products (and their sheer lack of service), I have nothing but respect for their marketing team.
Yes, you weren't spamming. But making posts for the sake of getting posts, even if they're useful, is frowned upon; you're supposed to get your first 10 posts by helping others.
I also very much like the idea of foldable displays, but only if we can get them truly foldable. Imagine, your entire computer on a flexible sheet of plastic? You could stick it in your wallet, and then fold it out to 22"! I would so love that. With the contact lenses, of course (have you seen Continuum? think of the contact lenses like the CMR in that.. )
Controlled by mind...
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A Smartphone with flexible screen
^ that a real concept or a mock up someone did? I really like that. I can see that as the smartphone of the future.
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^ that a real concept or a mock up someone did? I really like that. I can see that as the smartphone of the future.
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that looks like a mock up.
I don't understand why people are obsessed with flexible screens? What I want is to reduce the input delay from 100ms to 10ms.
Nokia showed a video of a bracelet phone years ago, then the chatter seemed to just die.
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Isn't google already creating this with Google Glasses
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I don't understand why people are obsessed with flexible screens? What I want is to reduce the input delay from 100ms to 10ms.
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Because being able to put a 10" tablet into your wallet is rather convenient.
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Because being able to put a 10" tablet into your wallet is rather convenient.
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A screen that may be able to flex does not mean it would be able to fold nor will the other components such as the battery, motherboard or case.
the future? evolution of current architecture. from battery to processor.
do you guys remember when many of us laugh on iPhone 5 because it's getting taller. but now? other vendors do the same.
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A screen that may be able to flex does not mean it would be able to fold nor will the other components such as the battery, motherboard or case.
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We're talking about the future; nobody specified an era.
Remember how massive the old computers were? You needed a truck to house 100KB. Hard to imagine we can stuff 128GB into a thumb-sized piece of plastic when you look back at that. They can store TB's on plastic tape.
And when Quantum Computing finally kicks off, we'll stop thinking about physical size altogether, because we'll be talking about nano technology.
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the future? evolution of current architecture. from battery to processor.
do you guys remember when many of us laugh on iPhone 5 because it's getting taller. but now? other vendors do the same.
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The iPhone 5
got laughed at because the only thing changing with it was an extra row of icons.
No-one have followed suit, if Android manufacturers are changing the ratio from 16:9 that's to compensate for on-screen buttons.
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We're talking about the future; nobody specified an era.
Remember how massive the old computers were? You needed a truck to house 100KB. Hard to imagine we can stuff 128GB into a thumb-sized piece of plastic when you look back at that. They can store TB's on plastic tape.
And when Quantum Computing finally kicks off, we'll stop thinking about physical size altogether, because we'll be talking about nano technology.
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Kingston have fitted 1TB onto a thumb drive, well to be fair it's about a double thumb drive.
Quantum computing is a far way away though and it's very unclear what it'll do for personal computing. It'll be king for decryption and similar, if it can be utilized for graphics we'll see pretty much unlimited graphics where software will be the bottleneck. (Imagine coding a graphic engine for a quantum computer). Exciting stuff though.
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A mix of both
A mix of the new projector technology used in iphone6, with the bendable screens of samsung. With a Paranoid Rom
how far into the future? I think eventually it would be an augmentation into our pupils. Yup...in the future we'll be installing ROMs to our eyeballs.

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