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1 Million phones in 45 days!

GO SAMSUNG Galaxy S. Suck it iPhone!

Hating on the competition doesn't make sense to me :/ .. but I guess good for Galaxy S.
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.

darkamikaze said:
Hating on the competition doesn't make sense to me :/ .. but I guess good for Galaxy S.
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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I'm just happy my backing the Android racehorse hasn't been a mistake

is this the number of all the galaxy s phones in the world?
captivate/vibrant/i9000/epic etc...

Berserk87 said:
is this the number of all the galaxy s phones in the world?
captivate/vibrant/i9000/epic etc...
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No. It's AT&T plus T-Mobile. And it's 1 million shipped. Not sold.
But I doubt Verizon and Sprint will sell as many Galaxy as AT&T and T-mobile. Verizon already has a great Android line. Galaxy S for verizon is just ugly.

darkamikaze said:
Hating on the competition doesn't make sense to me :/ .. but I guess good for Galaxy S.
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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Well, Rule #1 in this forum (and all the other android forums): any pro-Apple post will be deleted and your account will be suspended!

Quite impressive for Samsung.
Been contemplating this very question for awhile....and also two more:
> How many have been 'sold' worldwide? Id say approx. 2 million but thats just my guess - considering sammy has sold heaps in Korea.
> How many HTC Desire's have been sold worldwide, as this gives a good representation of Sammy's android competition.

One million phones sold? Impressive.
Ah, it seems like yesterday that I was envying Omnia i900 owners for their 3.2in screen, 624Mhz processor, and smooth Windows Mobile performance. Now I own a Galaxy i9000 variant with a 4in SAMOLED, 1Ghz processor, and an Android OS (which wasn't even released yet at the time).
Good times.

Android and Apple can happily coexist. It's true! I even like both platforms despite each of their con's.

darkamikaze said:
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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I think a lot of people forget about how touch interfaces were before the iPhone. Remember using a stylus? Even though the iPhone isn't for me, I appreciate the push that it gave to the industry to design better UIs. That being said, I think that Android will eclipse the iPhone some day and these numbers are encouraging.

heliumhelicopter said:
I think a lot of people forget about how touch interfaces were before the iPhone. Remember using a stylus? Even though the iPhone isn't for me, I appreciate the push that it gave to the industry to design better UIs. That being said, I think that Android will eclipse the iPhone some day and these numbers are encouraging.
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I completely agree. I wonder if Android would have even entered the market if Google hadn't seen how successful Apple was.
I look at the two like this: iPhone is great for people who want smart phone functionality with a VERY simple interface. Android is great for people who want smart phone functionality and control the phone at a more granular level.

skinien said:
I completely agree. I wonder if Android would have even entered the market if Google hadn't seen how successful Apple was.
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Google had already acquired Android and was investing in it before Apple announced the iPhone. Google was already building in the space.
That said, if you've seen the early Android stuff... well, things changed a ton before we even got to the G1. Which was now famously described by Andy Rubin as beta level software, a .8 version. The super early stuff was more Blackberry than Apple, and in fact, Apple wasn't even yet an established top player yet. But certainly, Android development, in co-ordination with Apple's runaway success took a very iPhone-esque turn. And, at least in my opinion, very much for the better.
EDIT: And on the topic:
Also, 1 million shipped in 45 days on AT&T and T-Mobile is very impressive. I wish we had a break down of the AT&T and T-Mobile specific numbers. If even 300,000 of those are Captivates than AT&T must be in shock, they did almost no promotion, especially before release, yet this would be selling big numbers right across from those massive iPhone 4 displays. Maybe then they will step up their Android efforts. And maybe we will see both Android and iPhone displays at AT&T stores soon.
The Epic seems to be doing quite well in terms of buzz. It should do well. Many of the various versions of the International Galaxy S are doing very well. And doing bonkers in Korea. They did what, 300,000 in Korea in 19 days? And had sold 1 million worldwide in less than 4 weeks on the same date, which was July 13th. Before any US versions released. Now... hard to say until we get an update, but 3 million worldwide wouldn't be surprising, and that's with the Epic, Fascinate, and not all global markets released yet. Though I will say, I am a bit worried about the Fascinate. But it might do alright. People talk about the options on Verizon, but there are many of the same options or more in Europe, and the Galaxy S line has still sold very well.
(It will also be interesting to see how the Vibrant sells when the G2 is released. Very interesting. Also how T-Mobile development moves. The G1 was the starting point, then the Magic was strong, and then the Nexus One, especially on T-Mobile, maybe the height of community Android development centering on a device. The Vibrant has some momentum, especially as the first super high end T-Mobile phone, as the Nexus One wasn't a T-Mobile phone, just on the network. The G2 could split that up. We will see.)

I hate the iPhone as much as the next guy, but... Apple sells that many iPhones in 10 days.

Total global sales so far have exceeded 3 million and its climbing.

TexUs said:
I hate the iPhone as much as the next guy, but... Apple sells that many iPhones in 10 days.
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Come on now...I dont think humans are really THAT stupid but I could be wrong....that would be scary
Go Galaxy S...my bro took a while to upgrade from his love affair with blackberry and now cannot put the galaxy down....oh yeah another convert!

I'm pretty sure that's about correct. They already sold over three million.
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TexUs said:
I hate the iPhone as much as the next guy
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I hope I am not the only one in this forum that loves both iOS and Android. I wish both do well. I hope the competition can go forever so the customers can be real winner.

I hope they both do well. I think Android is better suited to phones than IOS. IOS rocks the Tablet form factor though.

Apple only sell about 5-6 mil each year.
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draino623 said:
Apple only sell about 5-6 mil each year.
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haha yea only lol.
But really though I think there's too much Apple hating with Android (Bootscreen's with Android peeing or pooping apple, wallpapers etc.). Android IS amazing and all but what do you really get bashing another platform that keep Android developers in check by working even harder to compete with the other guys? I guess it's all for the fun.
With that said. Love my phone right now

Official Verizon Iphone

well it finally happened. not giving up android for anything though. See for yourself.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/iphone.jsp
im surprised im the only one that really posted about this

Well, gee let's see:
1) last year's hardware with a different antenna
2) stuck on a CDMA network (while 98% of the world use GSM) that doesn't allow simultaneous voice and data
3) its only mentionable software is the app store (grandma loves playing with those games)
I don't blame people here from not talking about it..

lude219 said:
Well, gee let's see:
1) last year's hardware with a different antenna
2) stuck on a CDMA network (while 98% of the world use GSM) that doesn't allow simultaneous voice and data
3) its only mentionable software is the app store (grandma loves playing with those games)
I don't blame people here from not talking about it..
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1) The phone is less than 7 months old
2) Totally agree here, but then again most Verizon phones are CDMA only
3) The app store, agree with me or not, has some awesome apps in it and is still ahead of Android as far as searching/sifting through the crap goes.
Anywho, I will continue using my HD2 with NAND Android

I think it is weird for someone to buy this phone on February 10th when 4 months later Apple is MORE than likely going to release the iPhone5. If Verizon customers have been weighting years for this device to come to their network, what is the harm in waiting 4 more months to get the newest one. I know it isn't a guarantee Verizon will get the iPhone5 in June but its hard to see why they wouldn't.

Akulamenuri said:
I think it is weird for someone to buy this phone on February 10th when 4 months later Apple is MORE than likely going to release the iPhone5. If Verizon customers have been weighting years for this device to come to their network, what is the harm in waiting 4 more months to get the newest one. I know it isn't a guarantee Verizon will get the iPhone5 in June but its hard to see why they wouldn't.
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My guess would be that the iPhone "5" will really be just a "4S", slight speed boost, maybe more storage, nothing to write home about though. Then next year when the 5 comes out Verizon and AT&T will both get handsets at the same time, in June.
Plus, realize that average customers don't know/care about release schedules. If they did, 6 months after the iPhone is released 0 would sell, which obviously isn't the case. Not everyone chases the latest and greatest devices like we do

if a five comes out- it WILL be a 4s like uberamd said. It wont be worth a new device it will just be something a software update would be. honestly, i also believe that some of the verizon smart phones could best the iphone in a comparison so unless the iphone becomes somthin totally different they may lose business. Hopefully the 4g service will come to verizon sooner than later.

uberamd said:
1) The phone is less than 7 months old
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Yes, the phone was released 7mos ago. The available hardware (as in similar phones with similar or better specs), however, is over a year old.

I can just imagine AT&T and Verizon releasing the iPhone 4GS, AT&T's will be the exact same with HSPA+ and Verizon's will have LTE. Other than that.. no differences.

lude219 said:
Yes, the phone was released 7mos ago. The available hardware (as in similar phones with similar or better specs), however, is over a year old.
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Who cares about specs? Go ask anyone outside these forums who isn't a gadget geek (and by that I mean go ask 99.99% of mobile users) how many MHz the processor in their phone is, or how much RAM it has. They will stare blankly at you. Why? They don't care. What they want is a good experience, and while I may be an Android user I am also willing to admit that the iPhone 4 delivers a silky smooth user experience. From the store to the high res responsive screen, its completely smooth.
I have likely gone from iPhone to Android much more than most people in these forums so I have experienced the pros and cons of each OS. In my experiences outside of geekdom, MHz, GHz, MB of RAM, and dual cores don't matter. UX reigns supreme.

uberamd said:
Who cares about specs? Go ask anyone outside these forums who isn't a gadget geek (and by that I mean go ask 99.99% of mobile users) how many MHz the processor in their phone is, or how much RAM it has. They will stare blankly at you. Why? They don't care. What they want is a good experience, and while I may be an Android user I am also willing to admit that the iPhone 4 delivers a silky smooth user experience. From the store to the high res responsive screen, its completely smooth.
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The OP asked why noone on a TECH FORUM has post about it. That's because people on a TECH FORUM SUCH AS XDA already know about the specs front and back. Learn to read.

The iPhone was sick when they first came out. 3 years later it's still the same phone in a different housing. I don't think I will ever get an iPhone again. Sold my 3g for a G1 when they first came out and never looked back.
Buying one right now would be a waste if you always have to have the latest and greatest with the "4S" or whatever it's going to be called a few months away.

lude219 said:
The OP asked why noone on a TECH FORUM has post about it. That's because people on a TECH FORUM SUCH AS XDA already know about the specs front and back. Learn to read.
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And I was responding to you about why the age of the device is irrelevant. There is no need to respond in that way, quit being so sensitive.

uberamd said:
And I was responding to you about why the age of the device is irrelevant. There is no need to respond in that way, quit being so sensitive.
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And I never said anything about release date or the age of the phone, did I? I said the hardware of the phone is a year old. I'm not being sensitive, i'm just teaching you what your english teacher should've taught you in school.

lude219 said:
And I never said anything about release date, did I? I said the hardware of the phone is a year old. I'm not being sensitive, i'm just teaching you what your english teacher should've taught you in school.
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Well, it was about interpretation. And less than 7 months != 12, and last time I checked a year was 12 months. Just trying to teach you something you should have learned in math class (see how funny that is ).
Also, if you notice, a different user mentioned this I think it is weird for someone to buy this phone on February 10th when 4 months later Apple is MORE than likely going to release the iPhone5. If Verizon customers have been weighting years for this device to come to their network... which started the discussion about Verizon customers in general, not just ones on these forums. Your reply, and attitude, is entirely uncalled for.

So not only do you fail to read but you also get side-track from comment to comment? The available HARDWARE was announced back in January 2009 (with the introduction of the toshiba tg01). That was the starting point. Even phones with bigger screen, bigger RAM, and 1ghz CPU were already available in store at the end of 2009. So since this thread was about the Verizon iphone 4, set to be released in 2011, it'll still be using technology/hardware already available back in 2009, and for the most part, early 2010...making the hardware a year old.
So what does saying the phone is 7mos old have to do with anything I replied to the OP?
I'm starting to think that english is not your first or even second language.

I'm done. Dealing with people like you isn't even worth my time.

So, who really cares ? It's a glorified app launcher anyway. Yea, it's pretty but, it's a apple.
This model is yesterday's news, it's 7 months old (longer before it was orgnally announced) Verizon and Apple know this. Every one who is a iPhone fanboy has been *****ing about AT&T's poor network, so verizon was the answer. So every sucker will go get a iPhone 4 from Verizon that is outdated and last years model JUST TO GET a iPhone on Verizon.
So, when the iPhone 5 (or what ever the next model is called) comes out, I am sure Verizon has there hands in the jar on that one, it will come with LTE and the way it should of been. Everyone who had to have one will be on a 2 year contract so they cant' change unless they pay the $350 or full price for the phone, then the people will be locked in for more years.
I think this iPhone was a model that was just designed to get rushed out the door, sure it will work ALMOST like AT&T's device but, it's nothing new(accept on a CDMA network).
I don't have interest in one but, I have a few family members who are and I hate to see them pay full price for a device that is outdated. I would expect for a flagship device on Verizon that they would do it right.
I would of prefered them to release it done right and wile they were at it, release a few Windows phone 7 models, you know, the better phone anyway

lude219 said:
So not only do you fail to read but you also get side-track from comment to comment? The available HARDWARE was announced back in January 2009 (with the introduction of the toshiba tg01). That was the starting point. Even phones with bigger screen, bigger RAM, and 1ghz CPU were already available in store at the end of 2009. So since this thread was about the Verizon iphone 4, set to be released in 2011, it'll still be using technology/hardware already available back in 2009, and for the most part, early 2010...making the hardware a year old.
So what does saying the phone is 7mos old have to do with anything I replied to the OP?
I'm starting to think that english is not your first or even second language.
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Wow do you like to talk back or what cookie?
As for the iPhone. Sorry fellers. It's a sick phone. So what if the 'hardware' is old? It has a higher resolution than almost any other phone right? How is that "old"? Also the Retina is way better than this "SLCD bs". I love the Super Amoled though.
Not only this, it doesn't NEED a dual core! Or anything more than it has even. Why? Because it runs intensive 3d games! Because it is fluid and smooth! What do you expect them to do?
All it's missing is a 4g radio. And it's way too early for that anyways. Why? 10mbps isn't real 4g. 10mbps isn't worth mentioning. I get 7 on T-Mobile THREE g. I'll get a 4g phone when it's 20+. Also then iPhone 4g will be out. For both AT&T and Verizon maybe?! Maybe! Lmao.
Either way. CDMA iPhone = ... Bad ESN + Flash to Cricket. Cheapass phone cheapass plan no contract. That's what I'd do. If I wanted an iPhone. But I have an iPod Touch and I love my T-Mobile service and my Nexus S.
And what's your huge problem with the CDMA iPhone 4? Cause CDMA is "crap" or something? Lolwut? Do you have any idea how big of a company Verizon is? Why is a CDMA company so successful? Why exactly do you think Apple is selling a CDMA iPhone?
Blah whatever. Haters gonna hate. But these haters must be nervous and threatened by an iPhone that isn't on AT&T crap. Honestly, I'm glad I have the choice to have an iPhone with 3G that isn't on AT&T if I want now. Doesn't mean I like the iPhone or am going to get one. But I'm glad I have the option.
Choice is a good thing.

^ CDMA is small as hell when compared to the rest of the world.
Anyway I guarantee this iPhone will sale more than everything on the market.
Oh and every game is not silky smooth on the iPhone. They crash and lag just like on Android. Do your research. Not all of them but there are some.

ugg did i start a fanboy war? dam im sorry.
well anyway i just saw what moto is releasing soon and they will be giving everything a run for their money. they have a tablet, the bionic, cliq2 and atrix. i am def getting the droidbionic.
it. is. sick.

Guys, look and the new SGS...

Here @ Engadget

So many choice phrases to say right now.
****ing mind boggling.

As a Vibrant owner (since I haven't sold mine yet) I'm kind of pissed at this. It's like they're throwing salt in the wound. Samsung throws 2.2 on that phone before the one that's currently out, gives it a FFC which it was supposed to have from the get go (the hole for it is even there on the motherboard), and makes it HSPA+ capable? Will somebody please tell them that nobody's ever going to support them again since their apparent solution to the no update problem is to sell you a slightly updated version of the exact same phone instead of bringing the existing one with the same basic hardware up to the now out of date OS that it should have had 6 months ago.

in this case.. the Nexus S must of been the sequel to the Vibrant 4G *cough* Android 2.3 *cough*
Vibrant (2.1) -> Vibrant 4G (2.2) -> Nexus S (2.3 - forever)

Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
I'm not going to fault T-Mobile for releasing a better phone 6 months later; that's become a long time in terms of hardware development. I've resigned myself to a new phone every 6 months for as long as I feel compelled to have the "latest, greatest" device.
The picture looks like the same form factor as the current Vibrant; so if all the rest of the stuff is the same, that tells us that our NS, or even our Vibrants, are still pretty much top of the line devices.
Since this looks to be the same build as the current Vibrant, I wonder if it will have the same creaks and groans.
Since they've changed the radio chip (to support 21Mbs) I also wonder if it will still have the AT&T 1900Mhz 3G band support like the current Vibrant.

distortedloop said:
Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Vibrant released on July 15th of 2010.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system

i dont wanna be a douche-er here, but, why isnt this in the vibrant forum?

Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.

Teddy Bruckshut said:
Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.
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Its how tech works, thats like me saying Nvidia shouldnt have created a GTX580 because i just bought a GTX480....how dare they!

Galaxy S2 will be revealed in February: Engadget http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/12/samsung-mobile-boss-confirms-galaxy-s-successor-galaxy-tab-road/
Considering these phones will likely get enough developer support to see ports of any and all new iterations of Android released from Google (which usually end up being better and more feature-rich than stock anyway); considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting); considering bloatware doesn't *really* do any harm; and considering Google only releases two major updates a year to the current Nexus phone, it makes me reconsider my position and the worth of the Nexus line.
Everyone will have different preferences, of course, but a lot of me wishes Google would directly challenge Apple with a "Google Experience" phone that isn't meant only to appease developers. In other words, a phone that does compete hardware wise, that does have a more uniformed OS experience that would cater to average-users, while retaining the customizable options and variety that sets the Android experience apart from iOS. That wouldn't sound bad at all.
Perhaps I just got the wrong phone, or perhaps I'm finding out Android isn't for me. Unfortunately, i don't agree with Apple's "the average user is an idiot" philosophy either. For what it's worth, I'm just thinking out loud.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Please check your facts before correcting people.
The Vibrant's official release date was supposed to be July 21, 2010, but looks like it came out a week early though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#In_the_United_States
Let's see, August, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan...that's 6 months right there, and by the time this new Vibrant Plus comes out (next month, maybe later) it will be 7-8 months or more. There's no announced release date yet that I've seen.
Also, I know we're talking about the T-Mo Vibrant, but it's only a slight variant of the original i9000. I have owned both, and even disassembled both. They both use the same display, touchscreen, same cpu, same gpu, same just about everything internally except the radio and the capacitive buttons. You can even put the i9000 FFC into a Vibrant by just removing some paint, and I've place the Vibrant's speaker assembly into an i9000.
My point was that the basic technology of the ENTIRE Galaxy S line of phones is almost a year old now. The i9000 was demo'd in April 2010, and available for purchase in June 2010. In the phone world, 9-12 months is a very long time...they need to provide something new and exciting to sell more phones, and a 21Mbs radio probably fits that bill.
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system
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But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.

Hey guys come on it's a "customer favourite"

If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.

Why didn't the nexus s have the hspa+ and I feel like everyone that got the vibrant just got screwed.

distortedloop said:
But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
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Agreed. Makes sense when you put it like that
distortedloop said:
Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
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Yeah I agree. It reminds me of when the Nexus One came out and set a standard for smartphones and looked really classy which caused alot of people to become loyal followers.
I wonder how long Apples loyalty will last if they don't set a new standard like they did with the iPhone 4 and you have a bunch of crazy Android phones (Atrix, Bionic, Optimus, etc) breathing down their neck?
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And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.
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Good point I agree.
Cash for non-subsidized iPhone 4? wow

No one is forcing you to buy it, just wait.
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distortedloop said:
If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.
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Wow if that's true then Samsung are some eeeeeeeeeeeevil mf'ers
Good find there dloop thanks for posting
Wonder if Samsung is the one telling Google not to give us N1 owners gingerbread as well... :angry:

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considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting);
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There is no way that removing touchwiz is easy, and when i left the Captivate, (about a month ago now) there still wasn't a rom that had it 100% removed.

Amazon: Thunderbolt available for purchase 2/14

Check out the link.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/08/ooh-htc-thunderbolt-launching-on-the-14th-according-to-amazon/

They took down the date after they put that up.
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Verizon is just having fun with these dates i think!
keeping people on the edge of their seats with infomation then more to disprove it
just release the date already or come out and say that your having problems

They ( vzw) are hoping the delay will make you buy an iphone indstead. ha-ha .
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Hah! i would never use a Iphone again, tried one out and i just hated not being able to customize. I like being different not like everyone else
if it were up to Apple we would all wear the same thing, talk the same way and buy their stupid products

superchilpil said:
Hah! i would never use a Iphone again, tried one out and i just hated not being able to customize. I like being different not like everyone else
if it were up to Apple we would all wear the same thing, talk the same way and buy their stupid products
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And who is so stupid to by an iPhone 4 a few months before the iPhone 5 comes out? Verizon sold 500,000 dumb phones on presale day? I guess when the main attraction of your phone is the looks and playing angry birds; it doesn't matter which version you have.

superchilpil said:
Hah! i would never use a Iphone again, tried one out and i just hated not being able to customize. I like being different not like everyone else
if it were up to Apple we would all wear the same thing, talk the same way and buy their stupid products
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The execs at vzw don't understand all that , we (xda) are about 3% of their customer base so they aren't going to bend over backwards for us like they do for the people with "stock" unmodified phones.
This crap has been going on for years,delays on hot smartphones.
You don't see delays on the iphone.
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Has samsung forgot about us infuse owners?

The captivate glide is coming soon and it has gingerbread with touchwiz 4.0. Did samsung forget about the infuse or something?
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Seriously guys, wait it out. There are several leaks meaning we are getting, they are just getting the kinks fixed.

Optimus-Prime said:
Seriously guys, wait it out. There are several leaks meaning we are getting, they are just getting the kinks fixed.
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Yeah, the leaks have GB but they don't have TW4. Maybe one will pop up with it, who knows. I originally thought "big deal" about TW4, but after having played with a SGS2 (finally), I can say TW4 is a step up in the UI realm for sure.

jvanlew said:
Yeah, the leaks have GB but they don't have TW4. Maybe one will pop up with it, who knows. I originally thought "big deal" about TW4, but after having played with a SGS2 (finally), I can say TW4 is a step up in the UI realm for sure.
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Nobody said that we would get tw4 just because we get gb as far as I know.
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The touchwiz 4 launcher, from the themes and apps section works great IMO.
Try it out. I use it daily.

I called Samsung today.
They said "What's an Infuse?".

andrawer said:
I called Samsung today.
They said "What's an Infuse?".
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Lmao. That definitely made my day
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Unlike Apple, Samsung (or ATT) make no promise of keeping all products up-to-date till their hardware limitations.
Benefit of that is you can pick up a cappy for $150 and Infuse for $210 on craigslist few months after the release. These phones are made and sold with thin profit margins unlike iPhones, hence Samsung has little incentive to support them. They are meant to owned for a shorter term. Look at the entire product life cycle and the business logic will become abundantly clear. Plus, some of these products have defects like GPS etc. and quite a few of them end up in warranty returns due to poor testing standards and that is factored into the cost to begin with.
Hence, enjoy these gadgets for a few months, throw it away and get the next best thing. That's the business model.

Lol
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sumeet909 said:
Unlike Apple, Samsung (or ATT) make no promise of keeping all products up-to-date till their hardware limitations.
Benefit of that is you can pick up a cappy for $150 and Infuse for $210 on craigslist few months after the release. These phones are made and sold with thin profit margins unlike iPhones, hence Samsung has little incentive to support them. They are meant to owned for a shorter term. Look at the entire product life cycle and the business logic will become abundantly clear. Plus, some of these products have defects like GPS etc. and quite a few of them end up in warranty returns due to poor testing standards and that is factored into the cost to begin with.
Hence, enjoy these gadgets for a few months, throw it away and get the next best thing. That's the business model.
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It's sickening.

Erik_T said:
It's sickening.
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Meh, nothing wrong with this really. You see this in all industries with fast growth. I tell customers to expect to replace their laptop or computer starting after 18 months to 2 years. Depends on the initial expenditure. Cell phones are where the fastest technological growth is happening right now. You just have to accept that. The phone you have is very capable and will last until you decide to buy a new one. It's your fault only if you decide to buy one subsidized under a contract. Don't kid yourself, no matter what else, there will always be a better, more powerful phone 6 months down the line.