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Compression Apps - to free up more memory.

Hi Peeps
Whilst browsing the Android market recently, I came across various apps that can free up some memory by compressing lost wasted space left after uninstalling apps etc.... disk fragmentation etc...
I have an unrooted HTC Desire.
Are any of these type of apps any good? Do they work? Or is it just a load of hot air?
If they are of some benefit, can anyone recommend a solid one?
Thanks for reading, and for your help as always.
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Anyone got any thoughts?
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Can you share a link or a name or something like that? Never saw something like "defragmenting" on Android.
HTC desire by default has an ext3 partition I thought(I might be wrong, it's maybe YAFFS and I don't know anything about its fragmentation!), and ext3 don't really defragment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Defragmentation
BTW, if it's an unrooted device, I don't think there's any chance something like that would work.

Will see if I can find one, i knew I should've written it down!
I did think being unrooted would rule it out though, so thanks for getting back to me
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Maybe not all features.
My internal sdcard came formatted as vfat, which does require defragmentation after too much use. And messing with sdcard contents doesn't require root. I'm not sure I would trust such an app, though - at least, not without a full backup and checking that it can't send data out to its servers.

Dodgylegs said:
Hi Peeps
Whilst browsing the Android market recently, I came across various apps that can free up some memory by compressing lost wasted space left after uninstalling apps etc.... disk fragmentation etc...
I have an unrooted HTC Desire.
Are any of these type of apps any good? Do they work? Or is it just a load of hot air?
If they are of some benefit, can anyone recommend a solid one?
Thanks for reading, and for your help as always.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Sounds like nonsense to me, apps by definition clean up after themselves, at least internally.. Some of them do leave data on the SD card either by design or by accident.

khaytsus said:
Sounds like nonsense to me, apps by definition clean up after themselves, at least internally.. Some of them do leave data on the SD card either by design or by accident.
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I agree with you. I think those people selling 'defragging' apps are just in it for the money, assuming they are paid apps.

Is this true? ICS does not support Move Apps to SD Card?

I have just bought an ASUS TF300 and apps can't be moved. Reading online, people say its because ICS doesn't allow it - so what happens when the DS gets ICS?

Not true. Search the net. For example:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-vivid/163799-apps-sd-ics.html
And even if it was true - with 1.1GB of internal memory, why would anyone care? And why would anyone want to move the apps to SD even now?

At least in the versions i tried, there is no switch to allow it/do it automatically, but in the memory -settings there is a utility that 1 clean the cache, 2 move apps 2 sd/remove apps, and 3 remove older messages.
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Jack_R1 said:
Not true. Search the net. For example:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-vivid/163799-apps-sd-ics.html
And even if it was true - with 1.1GB of internal memory, why would anyone care? And why would anyone want to move the apps to SD even now?
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To save space from the internal storage maybe?
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userdesires said:
To save space from the internal storage maybe?
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Save space for what? For having unused internal space and having your apps load much slower and experiencing multiple bugs when mounting/unmounting SD card, like "disappearing" apps?
Having lots of empty (wasted) internal space, taking unnecessary space from SD card and making the system work worse than it can is a great and smart idea, right? Or maybe not. Just like having zillion MB of free RAM. What can you do with free RAM? You can't eat it, it doesn't generate money, and it doesn't do anything useful - just sits there, eating phone's electrical charge and not working. Or, in other word, being wasted.

Jack_R1 said:
Save space for what? For having unused internal space and having your apps load much slower and experiencing multiple bugs when mounting/unmounting SD card, like "disappearing" apps?
Having lots of empty (wasted) internal space, taking unnecessary space from SD card and making the system work worse than it can is a great and smart idea, right? Or maybe not. Just like having zillion MB of free RAM. What can you do with free RAM? You can't eat it, it doesn't generate money, and it doesn't do anything useful - just sits there, eating phone's electrical charge and not working. Or, in other word, being wasted.
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Perhaps I am ignorant, but I understood the more free RAM the better, eg the faster. Not so?
It appears from the replies that there are clunky work arounds, but in essence, yes, in ICS there is no Apps to SD. I better hope I have less than 1GB of Apps then

al89nut said:
Perhaps I am ignorant, but I understood the more free RAM the better, eg the faster. Not so?
It appears from the replies that there are clunky work arounds, but in essence, yes, in ICS there is no Apps to SD. I better hope I have less than 1GB of Apps then
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This you understood wrong. Free ram is wasted ram.
And for apps2sd, of course it works in ICS. Some apps do that even without asking so I have to move them manually back to internal mem.
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Steinhund said:
Some apps do that even without asking so I have to move them manually back to internal mem.
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This is one of the most annoying things about apps2sd, in Gingerbread also. Even if I force the apps by setting pmInstallLocation to internal, those of them defined by their creator in Manifest as "prefer to SD" won't obey - and each update I have to move them back to internal. Very annoying.

The question is simple and the answer is simple too.
Apps in SD, running slow and buggy and after reboot, it might missing sometimes. The only advantage are, it saves internal storage and no need to install apps after reset. Correct me If I'm wrong.
Now close this thread for good.
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NOT TRUE AT ALL!
This is the Android 4.0.4&sense 3.6 for Desire S(OTA,HTC China).
Obviously,it supports move the apps to sdcard.

anazhd said:
The question is simple and the answer is simple too.
Apps in SD, running slow and buggy and after reboot, it might missing sometimes. The only advantage are, it saves internal storage and no need to install apps after reset. Correct me If I'm wrong.
Now close this thread for good.
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I agree, what a pointless thread!
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merlinfury said:
I agree, what a pointless thread!
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Thanks. When I have time I will hunt down the various threads from a year or so back saying what a good thing moving apps was and how beneficial it was to the phone's operation.

al89nut said:
Thanks. When I have time I will hunt down the various threads from a year or so back saying what a good thing moving apps was and how beneficial it was to the phone's operation.
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Yes, at wildfire, desire and such devices, because they had pretty small internal storage that got filled pretty fast. The ds has enough internal storage and if you're not using at least a class 6 sd it will slow the moved apps down, so my advice stay with internal you won't ever fill it except you install about 300 - 500 apps (depending how much games are included not using the sd).
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Tectas said:
Yes, at wildfire, desire and such devices, because they had pretty small internal storage that got filled pretty fast. The ds has enough internal storage and if you're not using at least a class 6 sd it will slow the moved apps down, so my advice stay with internal you won't ever fill it except you install about 300 - 500 apps (depending how much games are included not using the sd).
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I disagree; with many games now coming with 1.5gb of data needed this question is entirely relevant.
In fact on ics the move to sd function is disabled. Can provide a ss if needed. Samsung and a few other manufacturers have also confirmed this.
Just my 2pence.

very good job answering the OP's question all. games and apps nowadays are using around 50MB by default (i'm looking at you chrome, grabatron, and google play music), sometimes with additional space being used for on-device caching. at that rate, even with 2GB on-device storage, 20-40 solid modern apps could eat that up in no time, and i know that there are apps out there that take up more space than normal (webster's dictionary (300MB), friggin' MYST (700MB), etc). whats worse, google lifted the market restriction for apps all the way up to 4GB earlier this year. go ahead and try to imagine a 4GB app on 2GB of internal storage.
once you fill up internal storage, your phone will stop doing the things you like it to do, like download text messages, sync email, and keep apps up to date. apps on SD is a real need for some persons. apps2sd or link2sd are good options for apps that you don't use frequently or that don't require extreme speed to complete (like titanium backup, which runs on a schedule once a week in the middle of the night; i really don't care how long it takes to load).
and now the bad news. on some (perhaps most) ics devices (like the optimus 4x and galaxy s3), the ability to move apps to SD is just completely gone. any sd card app mover you install will tell you this and will refuse to do anything. this is because the ROM is configured to use the SD card as secondary storage (it's mounted at /mnt/sdcard/external_sd instead of /mnt/sdcard, and also perhaps formatted differently?).
grain of salt time. my phone has 1.4GB internal storage free. at what point do i start getting worried and consider moving apps to SD? i'd say 100MB is a good time to think about alternative storage, or cleaning out old apps. but, that's just me. i'm not a huge storage user, but do consider the possibility that someone will want that feature.

Ics not supporting moving applications to external sd card
al89nut said:
i have just bought an asus tf300 and apps can't be moved. Reading online, people say its because ics doesn't allow it - so what happens when the ds gets ics?
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idiot google has removed the feature apps2sd from ics and upwards versions.

big apps (games) are automatically installed on sd card

internal memory music

hey ive searched but couldnt find a solution....my question is that whether i can play music from internal storage as 4 gb is too much for apps....how can i do that...im on ota ics

Short answer? No. The internal memory is reserved only for the system partition. Even if you could throw some mp3's into a folder in the system side. There's not a music player out there that would look for the files in the system partition. So, no man. You're outta luck.
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This is some what useless way to say if there is no other option..... The only real way would be to use something like root explorer..... From there you could move a folder of music from sd to /folder name..... Then from root explorer you could use the music files one at a time .... Best bet go to rat shack and get a 32 gb sd for like $20.....

hemanbond said:
hey ive searched but couldnt find a solution....my question is that whether i can play music from internal storage as 4 gb is too much for apps....how can i do that...im on ota ics
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As much as iOS is junk, no doubt, shouldn't this be what your iPod is for? (I'm kidding, but seriously)...

hankbizzo5 said:
This is some what useless way to say if there is no other option..... The only real way would be to use something like root explorer..... From there you could move a folder of music from sd to /folder name..... Then from root explorer you could use the music files one at a time .... Best bet go to rat shack and get a 32 gb sd for like $20.....
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Well, actually you don't want to stick in /system or /anythingelse, you will bootloop.... If you copy anything to internal storage, it is best to "attempt" put it in /data/music or something, but that is still not a good way to do it. Now this is all just in theory mind you, as it is known that putting things that were not meant to go in certain places on this phone has caused way more heartache than it should and caused more bootloops than I care to elaborate on now.

jimbridgman said:
Well, actually you don't want to stick in /system or /anythingelse, you will bootloop.... If you copy anything to internal storage, it is best to "attempt" put it in /data/music or something, but that is still not a good way to do it. Now this is all just in theory mind you, as it is known that putting things that were not meant to go in certain places on this phone has caused way more heartache than it should and caused more bootloops than I care to elaborate on now.
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+1 :good: Yea I have had more than my fair share or bootloops from just looking at my / wrong LOL.....

all of my internal memory is going waste..i hardly use any apps....all i do is music and vids.....i had 16 gb card but it had problems with my ph.....my battery wasnt lasting long enough.... so internal memory problem is the same with other phones also ....i wonder how ppl use nexus phones?

Some phones have user accessible internal storage and in those phones it's done in a way that the user wont be able to modify critical system files. The Atrix 2 is not one of those phones so if you make a mistake you will get a bootloop like hankbizzo5 said. How did you determine that the SD card was reducing your battery life?

Just make sure you get a class 4 card and you'll be fine.

my battery was draining very fast...so i used battery monitor widget...i showed me 200-300 mA discharge even when screen off....so i formatted....same peroblem....i changed the sd from 16 gb sandisk class 4 to 2 gb ....nw everything is fine

so nothing could be done? i mean galaxy note....s3 all have large internal....cant we do anything abt it?....i mean atrix 2 is one of the best dual cores around...i thought this would be solved with ics...some say moto media centre transfers music to internal but i doubt

hemanbond said:
so nothing could be done? i mean galaxy note....s3 all have large internal....cant we do anything abt it?....i mean atrix 2 is one of the best dual cores around...i thought this would be solved with ics...some say moto media centre transfers music to internal but i doubt
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Yeah, I got an idea.... go find Jims sig and click on his dropbox link, sign up, and you will have 2.5gbs free online storage and you can even put your files in a public folder to play them from anywhere. Its not 4gb but it could be if you then get other people to sign up.
FWIW, I used a 32gb class 10 from time to time and never really noticed a battery problem. That's interesting.

hemanbond said:
so nothing could be done? i mean galaxy note....s3 all have large internal....cant we do anything abt it?....i mean atrix 2 is one of the best dual cores around...i thought this would be solved with ics...some say moto media centre transfers music to internal but i doubt
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No nothing can be done as far as actually utilizing the internal storage for your personal use. Yes, I'm not surprised your note can do it, add I have access to my internal storage on my skyrocket. But you just can't do it with the A2.
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[Q] not make sense without sdcard

pls, someone explain how you guys who are using nexus 4 and going to get nexus 5, how you guys can possible use your phone without sdcard?
I just cannot image a using without sdcard which give me much extra space and freedom to change it and make backups.
sdcard is not just extra space, it is separate disc in your phone.
Also, the speed of micro sdcard such as "Kingston microSDHC/SDXC Card Class 10 64gb" never been issue for me on sgs4 i9505.
And for me it is terrible idea to use any external storage, while I can have everything inside my phone, all the time.
Here some talking about much more terrible idea, using cloud or stream services instead micro sdcard, this insane for me.
I cannot understand why Google is doing it, and why you folks follow this rule.

x111 said:
pls, someone explain how you guys who are using nexus 4 and going to get nexus 5, how you guys can possible use your phone without sdcard?
I just cannot image a using without sdcard which five me much extra space and freedom to change it and make backups.
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Some people don't need a lot of space. I much prefer larger internal storage over SD card any day. Though i need 64 for all my music which is an issue with nexus devices. For many people 16 is enough though. 1 backup, decent amount of apps, little to no music, and all is well. Some people just have different needs. SD storage is slow and limited anyways. I wish it was completely rid of and larger internal storage options were offered for all devices. Google has been trying to get rid of SD card storage for quite a while.
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xXxG0dzRAgexXx said:
Some people don't need a lot of space. I much prefer larger internal storage over SD card any day. Though i need 64 for all my music which is an issue with nexus devices. For many people 16 is enough though. 1 backup, decent amount of apps, little to no music, and all is well. Some people just have different needs. SD storage is slow and limited anyways. I wish it was completely rid of and larger internal storage options were offered for all devices. Google has been trying to get rid of SD card storage for quite a while.
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can't store much porn on a 16gb phone...

Stream music and porn, streaming is the best. But you must have a good connextion where you live. For trips seagte wifi or OTG ftw.
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Stop hoping for SD Card storage, hope for return of USB On-The-Go is better!
In USB Flash drive, you can store so much HD Porn and tons of music and many more (impossible to super application there) using USB OTG!
But for me, 32GB is enough for everything
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I don't store music or movies on my phone so it has never been an issue.

At least on my SGS3 using a sdcard is pain because it always disconnects from the device.

Mkvarner said:
At least on my SGS3 using a sdcard is pain because it always disconnects from the device.
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never had this problem on sgs3 and nowadays on sgs4

This thread needed to be deleted, there has been at least 10,00 threads like this in the past. Nexus never had sdcard after the Nexus One. It never will get sdcard again in one million year, stop asking. Use cloud storage or USB OTG or get the 32gb version or buy a different phone. I wish it was against the forum rule to make these threads.

eksasol said:
This thread needed to be deleted, there has been at least 10,00 threads like this in the past. Nexus never had sdcard after the Nexus One. It never will get sdcard again in one a million year, stop asking. Use cloud storage or USB OTG or get the 32gb version or buy a different phone. I wish it was against the forum rule to make these threads.
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^ Exactly
x111 said:
pls, someone explain how you guys who are using nexus 4 and going to get nexus 5, how you guys can possible use your phone without sdcard?
I just cannot image a using without sdcard which give me much extra space and freedom to change it and make backups.
sdcard is not just extra space, it is separate disc in your phone.
Also, the speed of micro sdcard such as "Kingston microSDHC/SDXC Card Class 10 64gb" never been issue for me on sgs4 i9505.
And for me it is terrible idea to use any external storage, while I can have everything inside my phone, all the time.
Here some talking about much more terrible idea, using cloud or stream services instead micro sdcard, this insane for me.
I cannot understand why Google is doing it, and why you folks follow this rule.
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You're right.
You deserve to treat yourself better.
If you don't like it get another phone.
Get a google play edition phone.
You have plenty of options nowdays.

How do people live without SD storage? Easy. Steam music, use cloud storage.
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the1onewolf said:
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^ Exactly
You're right.
You deserve to treat yourself better.
If you don't like it get another phone.
Get a google play edition phone.
You have plenty of options nowdays.
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Give that man a cookie!
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x111 said:
pls, someone explain how you guys who are using nexus 4 and going to get nexus 5, how you guys can possible use your phone without sdcard?
I just cannot image a using without sdcard which give me much extra space and freedom to change it and make backups.
sdcard is not just extra space, it is separate disc in your phone.
Also, the speed of micro sdcard such as "Kingston microSDHC/SDXC Card Class 10 64gb" never been issue for me on sgs4 i9505.
And for me it is terrible idea to use any external storage, while I can have everything inside my phone, all the time.
Here some talking about much more terrible idea, using cloud or stream services instead micro sdcard, this insane for me.
I cannot understand why Google is doing it, and why you folks follow this rule.
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It's called cloud storage...
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32gb is a good amount of storage on a phone. Need to make backups USB-OTG all the way for that and use cloud storage for allot of things. anything under 32gb for me is not enough.

cloud service is a crap to keep files to which you need access most of the time, I do not want pay for unlimited mobile internet which not every where available and have the same speed.
cloud service can be used just maybe for backup and sync, and of course for the files which you wanna share.
On my phone 16gb internal storage and 32gb micro sdcard and this amount very close to be full. And not going to manage my files just because google want it.

Then a NEXUS device is not for you. Use a phone that does support micro sdcard storage. I just hope, for your sake, that other device manufacturers don't follow suit and get rid of that old technology. :good:

x111 said:
cloud service is a crap to keep files to which you need access most of the time, I do not want pay for unlimited mobile internet which not every where available and have the same speed.
cloud service can be used just maybe for backup and sync, and of course for the files which you wanna share.
On my phone 16gb internal storage and 32gb micro sdcard and this amount very close to be full. And not going to manage my files just because google want it.
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I disagree. Cloud is great..there is no way I'm getting my 500GB music collection on my phone while still using it as a phone, without the cloud. I use Subsonic, Google Music, and Pogoplug Cloud, as well as the usual Drive/Dropbox/Keep solutions for everyday junk. 16 or 32 becomes insiginificant once you move your mind into the cloud, either personal (subsonic,Pogo) or service provider (Google,Dropbox,etc.).

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I disagree. Cloud is great..there is no way I'm getting my 500GB music collection on my phone while still using it as a phone, without the cloud. I use Subsonic, Google Music, and Pogoplug Cloud, as well as the usual Drive/Dropbox/Keep solutions for everyday junk. 16 or 32 becomes insiginificant once you move your mind into the cloud, either personal (subsonic,Pogo) or service provider (Google,Dropbox,etc.).
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Thats it. I think google push cloud services a bit forward with every single release (Android, ChromeOS) and thats good in my eyes.
More users + more devices = increasing demand for faster mobile internet speed.
Only some mobile operators need to follow - their main purpose is still the same - pull from our pockets as much money as possible.
Just think what happend with CromeOS, great stuff but 70% people around the glob can't use OS for normal operations.
Again problem, slow internet connections. Google was sure in year 2012 world will be more hi-speed covered with optical internet.
I don't know if u know for project FLAG (Fiber-Optic Link Around the Globe). Almost all world countrys are covered with optical
internet the main fu*king problem are our stupid internet providers. They still selling old technology.

Don't believe cloud storage will be a plausible alternative until mobile phone providers stop being money hungry power giants. On at&t its 10 bucks for a single gigabyte of data I believe. At least their 3gb plan is $30. That's insanely expensive if you plan on relying on cloud services to keep your media. I listen to music 2+ hours a day. I would be spending at least $100 on data overcharges a month. There is no way I plan on making a switch to cloud storage for at least the next 3-4 years. Even then I doubt mobile data charges will have gone down, at all. Maybe $7.50 a gigabyte but even that is way too much.
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[Q] How to survive without an SD card??

Hello fellow XDA members,
I may be upgrading to my first smartphone without an SD card since the first moto droid came out. I have become very dependent on my SD cards, my current phone has a 64gb SD card which I am using a good portion of it.
My assumption is that about 95% of all people use their phone for their music device. I DO NOT stream. I would not have the data capacity for that. I put all of my 2000 songs on my SD card and throw on the shuffle or sift through and find what I like. I do this because I drive over 20-30 hours a week and steaming would easily crush my data for more important things and also I think it's pointless to not stream exactly the songs you want that at that moment.
I also have approximately 2000 pictures and growing. Which I would prefer to keep on my phone to reference when necessary or just look through for memories.
What to do If I upgrade to a new phone with only 32gb internal storage, leaving approximately 25gb of space left for stuff.
What do you people use? How do you deal with having limited storage but being a heavy user? I cannot legitimately think of anything without making sacrifices on how I use the phone meaning I'd have to remove many pictures and songs to have room for apps and other stuff, which obviously I don't want to do, and I can't burn through data.
Thank you so much guys! I appreciate any advice!

BlueForce64 said:
Hello fellow XDA members,
I may be upgrading to my first smartphone without an SD card since the first moto droid came out. I have become very dependent on my SD cards, my current phone has a 64gb SD card which I am using a good portion of it.
My assumption is that about 95% of all people use their phone for their music device. I DO NOT stream. I would not have the data capacity for that. I put all of my 2000 songs on my SD card and throw on the shuffle or sift through and find what I like. I do this because I drive over 20-30 hours a week and steaming would easily crush my data for more important things and also I think it's pointless to not stream exactly the songs you want that at that moment.
I also have approximately 2000 pictures and growing. Which I would prefer to keep on my phone to reference when necessary or just look through for memories.
What to do If I upgrade to a new phone with only 32gb internal storage, leaving approximately 25gb of space left for stuff.
What do you people use? How do you deal with having limited storage but being a heavy user? I cannot legitimately think of anything without making sacrifices on how I use the phone meaning I'd have to remove many pictures and songs to have room for apps and other stuff, which obviously I don't want to do, and I can't burn through data.
Thank you so much guys! I appreciate any advice!
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You have Wi-Fi, don't you? Why don't you just backup all your photos on Google Drive? That could free up a decent bit of space off of your phone. As for music, I would recommend that you backup the songs you usually don't listen to on Drive as well. When you get home, you could backup your stuff, and you could retrieve whatever you need from Drive some time before you leave. I'm sure you've already thought of this, but just a suggestion in case you haven't. =P

fangblade386 said:
You have Wi-Fi, don't you? Why don't you just backup all your photos on Google Drive? That could free up a decent bit of space off of your phone. As for music, I would recommend that you backup the songs you usually don't listen to on Drive as well. When you get home, you could backup your stuff, and you could retrieve whatever you need from Drive some time before you leave. I'm sure you've already thought of this, but just a suggestion in case you haven't. =P
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Wow, totally didn't think of that honestly. I haven't actually tried Google drive yet, I guess it's time to give it a shot. Thank you, I'll try it

If anyone has any other suggestions that would be great!

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BlueForce64 said:
If anyone has any other suggestions that would be great!
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Try rooting and uninstalling system apps(if there preloaded) Use cleaner master. It cleans alot. Mine cleaned 5gb in one month.
Try using basic cleaning. Apps that you dont use uninstall them as it took 3 gb of unused apps on my Phone
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CustomGames said:
Try rooting and uninstalling system apps(if there preloaded) Use cleaner master. It cleans alot. Mine cleaned 5gb in one month.
Try using basic cleaning. Apps that you dont use uninstall them as it took 3 gb of unused apps on my Phone
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Yeah I would definitely try to uninstall bloats are. And thanks, I can give that app a shot

A solution so obvious you might have overlooked it, just don't use your phone for a music player. Get a Sandisk Sansa Clip Zip (or Fuze) .mp3 player and stick a microSD card in there. I've been using a Clip Zip for a couple years now. Small, weighs practically nothing, has great sound (with some tweaks). Plays FLAC too. Or just use an old phone as a media player.

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A solution so obvious you might have overlooked it, just don't use your phone for a music player. Get a Sandisk Sansa Clip Zip (or Fuze) .mp3 player and stick a microSD card in there. I've been using a Clip Zip for a couple years now. Small, weighs practically nothing, has great sound (with some tweaks). Plays FLAC too. Or just use an old phone as a media player.
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Oh yeah, i should of thought of that, makes sense. Haha. I do have Viper on my phone now as well for audio. Perhaps i'll look into that for options. Good idea, thanks

Definitely get root access and remove all unneccesary system applications first.
Then, let's say you download an app that "needs" a physical sdcard - what do you do then?
Well, if I'm not mistaken there are ways to mount a "virtual sdcard" by repartitioning the unallocated space/taking some space out of another partition to act like an external sdcard. This will fool the problematic apps into thinking you have a real sdcard in, and then they will work correctly.
This would be more toward the technical side of this question, but yeah.

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Definitely get root access and remove all unneccesary system applications first.
Then, let's say you download an app that "needs" a physical sdcard - what do you do then?
Well, if I'm not mistaken there are ways to mount a "virtual sdcard" by repartitioning the unallocated space/taking some space out of another partition to act like an external sdcard. This will fool the problematic apps into thinking you have a real sdcard in, and then they will work correctly.
This would be more toward the technical side of this question, but yeah.
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Hmmm interesting. I haven't looked into that but I'm pretty sure I'd have that capability. I'm pretty tech savvy. That's good info because I think I do play games that I think need an SD card but not sure.

BlueForce64 said:
Hmmm interesting. I haven't looked into that but I'm pretty sure I'd have that capability. I'm pretty tech savvy. That's good info because I think I do play games that I think need an SD card but not sure.
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Good - you would definitely need to be tech savvy to accomplish it!

I have a crazy idea that I personally use, who knows... Maybe you wanna be crazy like me
I do have two nandroid backups, and I keep switching between them. Each one is nearly considered another phone with its own apps xD
But I use this method mainly because I like modding my SM-G7102, so one backup is main, and another for testing new stuff and experiencing performance issues.
Good luck with your new phone.

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I have a crazy idea that I personally use, who knows... Maybe you wanna be crazy like me
I do have two nandroid backups, and I keep switching between them. Each one is nearly considered another phone with its own apps xD
But I use this method mainly because I like modding my SM-G7102, so one backup is main, and another for testing new stuff and experiencing performance issues.
Good luck with your new phone.
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Yeah that does sound pretty crazy haha. On my s4 I used to run 2 Roms, but I'm sick of this phone. It just doesn't do it for me. I miss my Motorola because of the amazing speakers and microphones they have, as well as the near vanilla android. I'm planning on moving to the moto x 2nd gen once its available for Verizon. It should be awesome. Maybe I'll do that to my moto x haha. Thanks lol

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Yeah I would definitely try to uninstall bloats are. And thanks, I can give that app a shot
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No problem glad to help:good:

I really think the idea of no SD card isn't necessarily a bad thing. As long as you have enough internal space. I have a 64gb SD card and I'm only using 18gb including 3 backups which total somewhere around 8gb.
I think about 25gb internal after rom and essentials should be more than enough. I only have 16gb of internal space of which 12gb is usable so I definitely think it's possible with 32gb
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I really think the idea of no SD card isn't necessarily a bad thing. As long as you have enough internal space. I have a 64gb SD card and I'm only using 18gb including 3 backups which total somewhere around 8gb.
I think about 25gb internal after rom and essentials should be more than enough. I only have 16gb of internal space of which 12gb is usable so I definitely think it's possible with 32gb
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I dont know, I have 2000 pictures and 2000 songs both of which grow on a somewhat regular basis. Right now I'm using 24gb of my 64gb SD card. I have no backups on mine. Its 100% songs/pictures with maybe a little app data. In order to use the new phone I will have to do what someone said and get a separate music player. There's pretty much no other way for the quantity I have.

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I dont know, I have 2000 pictures and 2000 songs both of which grow on a somewhat regular basis. Right now I'm using 24gb of my 64gb SD card. I have no backups on mine. Its 100% songs/pictures with maybe a little app data. In order to use the new phone I will have to do what someone said and get a separate music player. There's pretty much no other way for the quantity I have.
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Yea songs tend to take up more room in general. I have 3gb of music and it's only a hair over 300 songs, and yea in your case a separate music player would be good
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There's several things that I did when I switched from SD -> Internal Storage.
First, most of the data I used was saved in the cloud. Google Photos backed up all my photos, music was streamed, etc. This allowed me to conserve a lot of space. Of course, if you don't have an unlimited data plan, then this isn't the best option.
Aside from that, there are apps that will help manage your internal storage. You essentially end up removing apps you don't need/use. This primarily includes games because they tend to be the largest apps.
For photos and videos, limit the amount that you store on your phone and use WiFi to fetch from the cloud as much as possible.
For music, same as above.
For media in general, if you want to go to super space efficient mode, save media in a compressed / lower quality format. For photos and videos this may mean low res. For music, change the bit rate of MP3s or don't use flac. Of course, this is if you can tolerate the loss in quality.
A potentially weird solution would be to archive (as zip, bzip, 7z, etc.) anything that you don't use.

dyczone said:
[…] A potentially weird solution would be to archive (as zip, bzip, 7z, etc.) anything that you don't use.
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Not weird at all - I discovered the usefulness (not a word?) of zipping up unneeded files as .zips, .bz2s and .rars about a half a year ago, and it's been a real lifesaver!
Do it, guys - it actually saves space!

thenookieforlife3 said:
Not weird at all - I discovered the usefulness (not a word?) of zipping up unneeded files as .zips, .bz2s and .rars about a half a year ago, and it's been a real lifesaver!
Do it, guys - it actually saves space!
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Might just try it myself, thanks for the suggestion :thumbup:
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