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G2x GB update...

have a look *near* the bottom of:
www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carrie...artphonegeek-dot-dot-dot-its-another-week-and
take the info with a grain of salt and for whatever it's worth. who really knows.

Ya there's already a thread about this
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that it's 2.3.3 rather than 2.3.4?
and, that the info is coming from an lg source directly?
i've been on this forum all day and i've not seen that reported here.
sorry if i missed it.

Well you weren't to specific on what you were referencing
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i referenced the specific info *near* the bottom of the thread. it was posted about an hour ago.
which thread on xda were you referring to?

I honestly don't care if it's 2.3.3 or 2.3.4, I just want them to release something with fixed drivers already so we can use them.
All the great developers here will upgrade their roms to 2.3.4 anyway, all we need are the bug fixes

useless rumors. back in april they said "coming soon", it's almost july

fyi
first it doesnt surprise me that they are releasing an outdated os again i mean they are only a million dollar company not big like cyanogen .
2nd is smartphonegeek although maybe hes trying to be helpful hasnt given us 1 bit of correct info yet. so although this is probably true im putting no faith in anything he says anymore unfortunately.

We all knew it was 2.3.3 to begin with. No surprises there.
Plus 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 aren't that different. I run CM7 which has 2.3.4 and honestly it is just a number.
I think the only phones running 2.3.4 are the Nexus Phones. The Sensation, Galaxy S2, and G2x will all be at 2.3.3
Although I did see an unofficial 2.3.4 update for the Samsung Galaxy S, it is nothing official.
Lets just hope that this LG update doesn't count GB for future upgrades, as most manufactures will provide at least a few upgrades to the OS. I'd be happy with an official 2.4 Ice Cream update though.

The sensation runs 2.3.3
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A question
If I have already installed the leaked 2.3.3 when the ota rolls out will it download that for me since I"m already showing 2.3.3 on my settings or will I have to use Nandroid , reset to original and then get the update?

2.3.4 have two major changes:
1. video support on Gtalk
2. IPv6 support

As long as the changes would take care of the rebooting and battery issues. Last night I unplugged at 100%, went to sleep and this morning battery was dead
I"m just ready for the darn update to get this thing running as it should. and since I"m not a T-Mo customer I cant return it to T-Mo.

mahgninnuc93 said:
If I have already installed the leaked 2.3.3 when the ota rolls out will it download that for me since I"m already showing 2.3.3 on my settings or will I have to use Nandroid , reset to original and then get the update?
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either that or keep your phone rooted and wait for someone to compile a stock/rooted version that you can install. it usually only takes one of those guys a few hours after they get the release... thats the way I did it with my N1 after I rooted it.

mahgninnuc93 said:
As long as the changes would take care of the rebooting and battery issues. Last night I unplugged at 100%, went to sleep and this morning battery was dead
I"m just ready for the darn update to get this thing running as it should. and since I"m not a T-Mo customer I cant return it to T-Mo.
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Because the leaked GB update is horrible. Of all the roms in this forum, THAT unofficial GB leak was the worst. Ever 4 hours the phone would be found turned off in my pocket. It would die on a charger.
If you want a working phone, get that crap off of there. Even EaglesBlood version based on the leak caused me the same issues.
Flash Eaglesblood Froyo edition or CM7.1 RC1. I'd say those are your two best options right now.

2.3 OTA GB Update vs Leaked Rom?

Regarding the OTA GB update for the G2X, is this update in any way different from the leaked GB Rom that came around a few months ago?
I'm not sure how to compare the two...

Here is the difference, as best as I can tell...
Paul's leaked 2.3.3 GB made us happy and hopeful.
LG's official 2.3.3 made us sad and jaded.

It's faster, no keyboard lag. I've never had any issues with more phone though. It's just more "complete" besides the missing LG camera which is very sad.
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kangxi said:
It's faster, no keyboard lag. I've never had any issues with more phone though. It's just more "complete" besides the missing LG camera which is very sad.
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It only seems faster cause they added a swap partition to the rom. I looked through the files and can tell you that a hooker with a box of ***** couldn't have screwed this up as bad as LG.

I am just happy that CM7, EB and MIUI are available for our phones.

Thanks guys, judging by that info it seems there's no point in upgrading.
are the new CM7 nightlies worth updated to? I hate flashing and wiping and having to redo everything everytime, can anyone give me some insight as to how i can restore my phone exactly the way it is now after flashing/wiping/dalvik/battstats, etc?

Actually, you're going to want to upgrade the phone to get the latest baseband. Fortunatly it's incredibly simple to put another custom ROM on the phone, just re-flash CWM and you'll be good to go.

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Actually, you're going to want to upgrade the phone to get the latest baseband. Fortunatly it's incredibly simple to put another custom ROM on the phone, just re-flash CWM and you'll be good to go.
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While I do agree he should get the newer baseband I have to say that I really did not notice any differences with it. Might be in the fact I cant keep a rom on my phone longer then 1 day as I am always bouncing in between roms to fix stuff

Can we all stick to the topic and give some info in here in case there are some minor differences between the two roms? OK ill start off...I upgraded thru the LG update program. I have the stock camera app, white "4g" and signal icons, 2x space doesn't period, software version v21e. Anyone who've upgraded thru ota, noticed any differences from what I've mentioned, please speak them.
Geah!

princeasi said:
Can we all stick to the topic and give some info in here in case there are some minor differences between the two roms? OK ill start off...I upgraded thru the LG update program. I have the stock camera app, white "4g" and signal icons, 2x space doesn't period, software version v21e. Anyone who've upgraded thru ota, noticed any differences from what I've mentioned, please speak them.
Geah!
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First off I was sticking on topic and actually gave good info as the OTA rom only seems faster due to a swap partition not on the leak....
And I was even talking about the new baseband compared to the old one, Not to mention the info you gave is wrong as both the leak and OTA both have only White signal bars & icons as LG messed up the framework files.
Truth be told they are both the same rom other then swap partition added to the OTA..

tweezit said:
First off I was sticking on topic and actually gave good info as the OTA rom only seems faster due to a swap partition not on the leak....
And I was even talking about the new baseband compared to the old one, Not to mention the info you gave is wrong as both the leak and OTA both have only White signal bars & icons as LG messed up the framework files.
Truth be told they are both the same rom other then swap partition added to the OTA..
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I humble myself. As i went back an re-read, I see the info you posted....speaking of the info I gave, no im not wrong because i shared my GB specs that specifically came from the (alleged leak) lg update tool in hoping that someone who OTA'd might spot some differences in comparison.

princeasi said:
I humble myself. As i went back an re-read, I see the info you posted....speaking of the info I gave, no im not wrong because i shared my GB specs that specifically came from the (alleged leak) lg update tool in hoping that someone who OTA'd might spot some differences in comparison.
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Hold on are you talking about the leak paul posted or the so called leak via LG updater tool?
All three had pure white status bar images as the framework files are messed up.
Maybe I am confused as to what you are actually saying. (Trust me won't take much to confuse me right now)
Btw: I am not trying to start a fight or am I even mad I just wanted to get it clear that I was trying to help.

i believe the question is, what is the difference between what is pushed via OTA, vs. what is installed with the LG updater.
who knows, its been a long day.

Tweezit fix the ota where it dont reboot n theme it... remove lg ****.. well b good to go..
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tweezit said:
Hold on are you talking about the leak paul posted or the so called leak via LG updater tool?
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I was speaking on the "leak via LG updater tool" I was curious to see if the ota would have any subtle differences from the LG update tool. I Lurked in a few threads and I had a hard time finding a definite answer to this. Most of what I was reading were guesstimates. But I think I've found the answer after reading your info and a few others. Conclusion ....yes they're the same lol.
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ICS on G2x

It seems like we might have a chance of getting it. Engadget has a post up saying all 2.3 devices after.the nexus s should get ICS being that the nexus s is getting it....and we technically have a stock build of android. So I'm keeping my hopes up that we still have a chance of getting it.....what are your thoughts?
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I think if people show some positive encouragement to LG to work with and for purchasers of the p999 rather than the immature hostility that permeates several of the threads at the LG forum an update should happen. It is still and active model in tmos system.
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I was under the impression the G2x runs a stock gingerbread looking skin over LG framework. As in, just looks stock, not actually stock. http://twitter.com/#!/CM_arcee/status/63255644676960256
Seeing how much LG pooped the diaper on the GB update, I wouldn't hold your breath for anything official in the short term.

I thought they are suppose to support the android phones software upto date in period of 18months after they releas3 it? If the phone hardware can support it? Well thats what google said. I don't think lg have choice.
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But the rain came back and the birds stopped singing soon after the Google I/O Day One keynote. Barra’s comments set off a wave of excitement, but only because people misunderstood his words. Google is not forcing carriers or manufacturers to update their phones; it’s simply working with them to make updates faster and more likely.
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http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
LG doesn't have to do anything.
I would say a G2x ICS update is totally a possibility, I just wouldnt expect LG to drop it anytime soon. Seeing how long it took LG to release GB, if the G2x does get an official update I doubt it would be before next summer.

True,.but I'm hoping some kind of news gets released saying the g2x.will get it
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I don't care what operating system version my G2x is running as long as the radios and/or drivers that control them just don't work.
I've had 4 G2Xes, on 2.2 and 2.3, with multiple sim cards and used them in many areas of the US. They simply do no stay connected to the network. I have to reboot them manually several times a day to maintain connectivity/functionality. The Android part works fine especially since the GB update, but the phone part, and even the WiFi and GPS parts just are flaky as hell. If they don't fix that, putting ICS on this phone will not be any better an experience.
And I'd bet $100 LG never updates this phone again. They are SO washing their hands of it, it's a disaster they don't want to "waste" any more time and money on even if that means screwing thousands of customers. The users know it, LG knows it, T-mobile knows it, but they are not admitting it, because responsibly dealing with this disaster would cost them a fortune. For T-mobile/LG to fix this problem they'd have to send every G2X owner a different model phone that isn't fundamentally flawed.

I wouldn't count on it.

dylanear said:
I don't care what operating system version my G2x is running as long as the radios and/or drivers that control them just don't work.
I've had 4 G2Xes, on 2.2 and 2.3, with multiple sim cards and used them in many areas of the US. They simply do no stay connected to the network. I have to reboot them manually several times a day to maintain connectivity/functionality. The Android part works fine especially since the GB update, but the phone part, and even the WiFi and GPS parts just are flaky as hell. If they don't fix that, putting ICS on this phone will not be any better an experience.
And I'd bet $100 LG never updates this phone again. They are SO washing their hands of it, it's a disaster they don't want to "waste" any more time and money on even if that means screwing thousands of customers. The users know it, LG knows it, T-mobile knows it, but they are not admitting it, because responsibly dealing with this disaster would cost them a fortune. For T-mobile/LG to fix this problem they'd have to send every G2X owner a different model phone that isn't fundamentally flawed.
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My G2x was also a POS I got it (like a fool) the day it came out, and when i first got it it sucked so bad after the second day i had it it went back in the box and sat on the closet shelf and I went back to my Nokia N8 but a month or so ago i got it out and just for the hell i played around with some ROMs and have been running Weapon G2x 2.4 without a single flaw or hiccup since.

cnpthe3rd said:
My G2x was also a POS I got it (like a fool) the day it came out, and when i first got it it sucked so bad after the second day i had it it went back in the box and sat on the closet shelf and I went back to my Nokia N8 but a month or so ago i got it out and just for the hell i played around with some ROMs and have been running Weapon G2x 2.4 without a single flaw or hiccup since.
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I have two G2Xes, one with CM7.1 one with stock GB. They both suck at staying connected to the network. Perhaps it's time to try another distro, but I'm pretty convinced the baseband is fundamentally flawed. If I stay in the same place I start to think it's all working, then I drive somewhere and realise how useless this phone is. I wanted to love this phone so much, on paper it's just awesome, perfect for me. In reality it's garbage and I can't wait to be rid of it. I've wasted weeks of my life on this useless thing thinking surely it can be made to work.

I got a G2x early on. Reboots every other day in the beginning, etc.
Now i'm pretty stable, can go more than a week. Just have GPS lock issues.
Rooted, stock GB, using Go Launcher and SetCPU.
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After the GB update I wouldn't hold my breath. Our phones are more than capable of handling ICS, but I doubt we'll see it.
Yeah, it can get ported, but won't work the same.
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My g2x works flawless for me, no hiccups,.always connected to the network....nothing wrong. I came back to the g2x from the mytouch 4g slide because of stock android and the support. I have a good feeling we'll see ICS eventually. If not ill just go prime
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I dunno, the G2x is like the black sheep any more. I don't see anything about it. LGs track record thus far doesn't look good in regards to updates. I bet CM team will get something stable on ICS but your looking at months...
Not a big deal. Well probably have themes and apps that could pretty closely replicate ICS while still using GB. On the nexus one, I used a GB theme on Froyo for a while before actually switching. A nice theme and new Widgets will ease the wait.
I run MIUI and Faux 4.3 and have no network issues what so ever.... that's actually what kept me on MIUI for so long... and now I'm addicted. MIUI works fantastic minus wifi calling.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver

player911 said:
I dunno, the G2x is like the black sheep any more. I don't see anything about it. LGs track record thus far doesn't look good in regards to updates. I bet CM team will get something stable on ICS but your looking at months...
Not a big deal. Well probably have themes and apps that could pretty closely replicate ICS while still using GB. On the nexus one, I used a GB theme on Froyo for a while before actually switching. A nice theme and new Widgets will ease the wait.
I run MIUI and Faux 4.3 and have no network issues what so ever.... that's actually what kept me on MIUI for so long... and now I'm addicted. MIUI works fantastic minus wifi calling.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
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Miui that good? Man ive been out if the rooting loop for awhile.....whats the benefit of faux kernal?
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player911 said:
I dunno, the G2x is like the black sheep any more. I don't see anything about it. LGs track record thus far doesn't look good in regards to updates. I bet CM team will get something stable on ICS but your looking at months...
Not a big deal. Well probably have themes and apps that could pretty closely replicate ICS while still using GB. On the nexus one, I used a GB theme on Froyo for a while before actually switching. A nice theme and new Widgets will ease the wait.
I run MIUI and Faux 4.3 and have no network issues what so ever.... that's actually what kept me on MIUI for so long... and now I'm addicted. MIUI works fantastic minus wifi calling.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver
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For me MMS doesn't work on MIUI. Only reason I'm not on it.
I agree though, don't think LG will give us the update officially. It's kind of sad that Google is letting it's platforms get so dispersed. I mean both Apple and Microsoft have the updates down-pact.

barqers said:
For me MMS doesn't work on MIUI. Only reason I'm not on it.
I agree though, don't think LG will give us the update officially. It's kind of sad that Google is letting it's platforms get so dispersed. I mean both Apple and Microsoft have the updates down-pact.
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Both closed platforms, that is the trade off

Which ROM has MMS working?
barqers said:
For me MMS doesn't work on MIUI. Only reason I'm not on it.
I agree though, don't think LG will give us the update officially. It's kind of sad that Google is letting it's platforms get so dispersed. I mean both Apple and Microsoft have the updates down-pact.
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What ROM are you using? My MMS does not work either, I am on Xboarder's ROM(OTA Tweaked) and whenever I have wifi+2g or wifi+4g I cannot send out an MMS. If I want to send out MMS I have to turn off wifi, switch 2g on, then switch 2g off, then finally stick with 2g or 4g and then TRY to send out the MMS sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

AdamHart612 said:
http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
LG doesn't have to do anything.
I would say a G2x ICS update is totally a possibility, I just wouldnt expect LG to drop it anytime soon. Seeing how long it took LG to release GB, if the G2x does get an official update I doubt it would be before next summer.
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how can you say LG took long to update to Gingerbread. i still have my vibrant and galaxy s 4g and their still have not yet come out with gingerbread on them. imagine that after over a year.
lets see the g2x came out on april 20th
and gingerbread was july 15th
thats 85 days thats 4 months since it released date
i think LG was pretty fast with the update.
comparing to others brands
my g2x never had any problems at all

So what you guys are saying is I should return my G2X? ha I live in Milwaukee, WI and have heard good things about tmobile, why I switched and 4G is stable here. I'm still in my 14 day window and just wondering if anyone thinks I should get a better phone?

Who went back to GB?

I'm on AOKP ICS but I'm considering going back to a GB ROM because of the better battery, a reliable HD camera, no sleep of death, etc. Anyone else on the same boat? I can't make a decision! :\
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rrroach said:
I'm on AOKP ICS but I'm considering going back to a GB ROM because of the better battery, a reliable HD camera, no sleep of death, etc. Anyone else on the same boat? I can't make a decision! :\
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I went back and haven't looked back! ICS was too much of a hassle with all those problems you listed. If you haven't seen it yet, LG released a GB 2.3.4 update as of a few days ago I believe. I just updated to that today and it has been nothing but fast and reliable so far (knock on wood haha).

ctowne said:
I went back and haven't looked back! ICS was too much of a hassle with all those problems you listed. If you haven't seen it yet, LG released a GB 2.3.4 update as of a few days ago I believe. I just updated to that today and it has been nothing but fast and reliable so far (knock on wood haha).
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Any idea what the changes are or where I can get my hands on a changelog? I'll try out one last ICS ROM and then give the 2.3.4 ROM a go.
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rrroach said:
Any idea what the changes are or where I can get my hands on a changelog? I'll try out one last ICS ROM and then give the 2.3.4 ROM a go.
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No idea about the changelog except they upgraded from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 and updated the baseband lol

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No idea about the changelog except they upgraded from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 and updated the baseband lol
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Oh lol. I'll just look up the Android 2.3.4 change log then. Thanks!

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Oh lol. I'll just look up the Android 2.3.4 change log then. Thanks!
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If you do decide to upgrade as of now (from reading the dev thread about this new update) it looks like if you flash a custom rom after installing the new march baseband you won't be able to make phone calls. Only works with the stock LG 2.3.4. Just a warning if you were thinking of flashing a rom with the new baseband. I'm sure they will come up with a solution soon though, they always do!

I've upgraded once to ICS, and I went back immediately. Although there were times when I flashed different ICS roms from different devs, but they all seem to have the same issues, so I just stayed on GB, I'm happy with Hellfire Phoenix, really stable with Faux CM kernel at stock voltage.

I did as well, the UI wasn't worth all the technical difficulties. Went from HFS to HFP.

ctowne said:
If you do decide to upgrade as of now (from reading the dev thread about this new update) it looks like if you flash a custom rom after installing the new march baseband you won't be able to make phone calls. Only works with the stock LG 2.3.4. Just a warning if you were thinking of flashing a rom with the new baseband. I'm sure they will come up with a solution soon though, they always do!
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Can't the baseband be restored to an older one withe the GetRIL app on the Play Store?
Btw, does the release of 2.3.4 signify that we won't be getting ICS officially? I might as well abandon ICS now if we're never going to get updated drivers from Nvidia...
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no and no to put it simple.
The GetRIL app does just that get's RIL's no a baseband.
We never knew or will we know cause LG can't make up their mind it seems. Some forums have public LG moderators/employees that state that they haven't heard a thing about LG giving the G2X ICS love. On the other hand I have read places and posted here that LG's Facebook stated that they will update our phone and the European version to ICS sometime in the 2nd quarter. So it's pretty much don't hold your breath and be patient.

The fact that LG hasn't given up on updating the G2x means a lot...even though it's been EOLed, though. But, speculation is speculation.

i went back to GB, due to the camera issue. the ISC roms are great but unless LG\Nvidia releases their drivers these roms will never be perfect. another reason i went back to GB is because i like MIUI (the whole interface and the ability to record calls). cant wait for MIUI v4.

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no and no to put it simple.
The GetRIL app does just that get's RIL's no a baseband.
We never knew or will we know cause LG can't make up their mind it seems. Some forums have public LG moderators/employees that state that they haven't heard a thing about LG giving the G2X ICS love. On the other hand I have read places and posted here that LG's Facebook stated that they will update our phone and the European version to ICS sometime in the 2nd quarter. So it's pretty much don't hold your breath and be patient.
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I suspect they won't give us ICS and have given up hope, so I don't have to worry about being patient. ;P

GB till we get drivers. I'm satisfied with it for now.
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Coming off of about a month using ics roms, its nice to get back to gb because EVERYTHING WORKS! Also, pretty sure the o2x will get ics towards the middle of this year. We just have to wait for the drivers to be ported. Until then, some of us can make due without hwa, but its hard to stay away from gb for too long.

Back on MIUI for now. I themed it to look like ICS so I'm satisfied for now. Much better battery life too! But I miss the ICS multitasking still.

I really like the UI on ICS and it works well enough for me that I've just stayed on it. Went to GB for a day and decided against it. The known issues with ICS have not really been an issue for me at all.

I used and was very happy running CM7, even installed it on my girl's phone which will likely stay that way.
A few weeks ago I went to Eagleblood's most recent AOSP build and don't see myself going back to any form of GB. Yes the ICS ROMs do have their issues but so far nothing game breaking for me.

pretty new here and I never even tried an ICS ROM yet. But even as an Android semi-noob it makes sense that an ICS ROM will not be as polished as a well done GB ROM. Hoping to try one soon but the general sentiment of this thread makes me think it will be a while before I do.

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pretty new here and I never even tried an ICS ROM yet. But even as an Android semi-noob it makes sense that an ICS ROM will not be as polished as a well done GB ROM. Hoping to try one soon but the general sentiment of this thread makes me think it will be a while before I do.
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They're very usable and stable enough for daily use. If the known issues don't bother you, then you'll enjoy ICS. The first ROM I flashed to my phone was an ICS ROM and I've remained on ICS since. I tried going back to GB, but ended up flashing ICS again the next day. Give it a try. If you don't like it, you can always re flash a GB ROM.
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[Q] Gifting P509/P500 - Oxygen, PerfectPeso, OMGB/OMGFB or OpenOptimus

I am giving a P500 (actually a P509) to my sister. She has never used an Android phone. My main criteria are stability and reasonable battery life. I was considering Oxygen. However, I think it would be better to have a feature-rich ROM. So my sister will not have to tweak it. I would also like to setup A2SD of some sort.
I have used the old OpenOptimus Rom with no problems. Very stable.
OMGB & OMGFB are ROMS from the same developer as OpenOptimus. However, I am not sure if they are stable yet, since they are recently released.
Perfect Peso - Seems to be feature-rich. Not sure about the stability. However, the dev seems to be missing since Mid May.
What I would like is an updated OpenOptimus ROM. I might just install this old ROM anyway, as this is for my sister. Any other suggestions? Which newer ROM is closest to OpenOptimus?
Thanks!
PS I am also giving her a Nook Color.
PPS Hope this is not a violation of the prohibition on "What's the best ROM/Kernel/Theme?" threads.

For someone that is completely new to android, start them off in stock first until they get used to it. In my opinion I'd use oxygen once they become familiar with android
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Use oxygen...smooth stable and battery friendly...

Oxygen...all the way

G-T-R V7.7 or RAZR ROM
use any of these..both are feature rich from the same person:
G-T-R if she's into gaming
RAZR-UI if she wants it battery efficient yet feature rich rom

Thank you for the input!! I will need to install and troubleshoot the new ROM this weekend. I would like to send it off on Monday.

Is an unlocked Optimus P509 the same as P500 ? Please tell me.

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Is an unlocked Optimus P509 the same as P500 ? Please tell me.
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They are almost the same. You can use any P500 or P509 ROM on either phone. The only difference I know is that the P509 supports the 3G band that T-mobile uses (1700/2100 MHz).
I do not have a good answer about flashing the new baseband vs the fix for the old baseband, when using a P509.

G-T-R has a cool user interface, very eye candy, your girl would love it.. in terms of performance. this rom is the one.

.:Paradox:. said:
Is an unlocked Optimus P509 the same as P500 ? Please tell me.
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Update - The ROMs using the old baseband all work for both the P500 and the P509.
The new baseband may eliminate data. I am just investigating this myself. It seems to be a function of newer t-mobile sims (funny sims). Some ROMs support "funny SIMs".
Another potential problem is that the new baseband does/did not include the 3G band that T-mobile uses (1700/2100 MHz). You may not get a 3g data connection.
I am not sure what I will do about the P509 I am gifting. I have no idea if my sister is using one of the newer SIMs.

Thank you everyone for the feedback. I decided not to use the new baseband. I flashed Oxygen and the old baseband fix 2. My sister will be surprised by this Bday present.
PS Old baseband fix 2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2#post22855843 Feb 2012. (Bad link)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22855843&highlight=baseband#post22855843
TimelesslyPrecise said:
Okay,
assuming you have the Oxygen ROm installed,
then did the baseband Fix-2 by Aspee, (for old baseband)http://www.mediafire.com/?8nllkie8ym9nb47
You should now go into Wireless setttings, and make sure your APN is set right...
good luck.
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Perfect peso is sh*t. Phone is booting for 5mins etc. Gaming isnt better. Random hangs and reboots. Me no like.

I would just load the latest cm nightly so it has the latest features and it is FAST and interface is plain and minimal
I would also recommend blackbird cause it is also fast and feature ruch
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