Convince me not to buy a Thunderbolt… please... - General Topics

(I have Verizon)
So I see that the Bionic is going to be dual core, better resolution etc. And it’s all over the internet that it appeared on Amazon for $149 for a few hours. So I would be an idiot to get the Thunderbolt now for $199 right? I mean even if I did want the thunderbolt I should wait for the Bionic because the TB’s price will go way, way down if the Bionic is $149..!
Anyone know when the Bionic will be out? I have seen post that it could be any time, others that it will be June...

A guy I work with has been looking for a new phone for at least a year now, constantly putting it off because there is something better around the corner.
Personally I really love Sense UI on my desire HD - it seems far better than motoblur, or any of the other UI overlays I've seen.

Yeah I know all about the putting it off thing. But these are big differences. The Thunderbolt is going to be like one of the last very top single core phones... Screw that.
If all phones are 2 or 3 months from all being dual core I want to wait.
Plus the Bionic has the bigger screen res and the dual core Nvidia CPU!
These are not little differences…

HawkStream said:
Yeah I know all about the putting it off thing. But these are big differences. The Thunderbolt is going to be like one of the last very top single core phones... Screw that.
If all phones are 2 or 3 months from all being dual core I want to wait.
Plus the Bionic has the bigger screen res and the dual core Nvidia CPU!
These are not little differences…
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So what the **** was the point of this post? Jesus
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So what the **** was the point of this post? Jesus
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Since I posted it I have convinced myself even more! Lol
And I’m waiting for a post from someone saying I should wait for the Bionic too to make me feel better about it! lol

And unlike your friend I’m not waiting for “a better phone”… Its between the Thunderbolt and the Bionic only… I guess if the Galaxy S II came out I would think about it a little, but not much…
So it’s all about when the Bionic will come out and how much it will be when it does….

does seem very much like you've made up your mind
I seem to get burnt every time I stray from HTC. The big decider for me is actually holding one in my hands and playing with it - I've been all for a certain phone til I held it and thought "wow... feels a bit cruddy" hence why I have a Desire HD rather than a Galaxy S.

drengur said:
does seem very much like you've made up your mind
I seem to get burnt every time I stray from HTC. The big decider for me is actually holding one in my hands and playing with it - I've been all for a certain phone til I held it and thought "wow... feels a bit cruddy" hence why I have a Desire HD rather than a Galaxy S.
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I appreciate that but I am not a brand loyalty guy…
I go ATI or NVIDA, Intel or AMD, Motorola or HTC, who cares… I want best bang for the buck period.
That changes all the time and so I change what I buy all the time. I have never not been "burnt" a little by any brand... They all have their pros and cons...

HawkStream said:
I appreciate that but I am not a brand loyalty guy…
I go ATI or NVIDA, Intel or AMD, Motorola or HTC, who cares… I want best bang for the buck period.
That changes all the time and so I change what I buy all the time. I have never not been "burnt" a little by any brand... They all have their pros and cons...
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I gotta agree with the HTC sentiment. You will be much better off with HTC than with Motorola or Samsung. HTC phones are just superb, in my opinion. I have an Inspire 4G (HTC Desire HD) as well as an HTC HD2 and I had an HTC HD7. All are and were (hardware wise for the HD2 and HD7) excellent and superbly reliable and well built. My Inspire is the friggin love of my gadget life. I have not ever owned a phone like the Inspire that ever impressed me as much as it has. The Thunderbolt is basically the exact same as the Inspire/Desire HD except with front facing camera and other stuff...the LTE radio, as well.
If I were going to Verizon, the Thunderbolt would be my no-thought, no-blink choice. The Bionic is pretty much Verizon's version if the Atrix from AT&T. It has had some issues and the UI isn't as smooth as Sense 2.0. Plus if you want to customize, Motorola isn't too keen on an open platform. The Bionic looks good in specs and appearance, but that only goes so far. At the end of the day, the Thunderbolt will keep impressing you.

MartyLK said:
I gotta agree with the HTC sentiment. You will be much better off with HTC than with Motorola or Samsung. HTC phones are just superb, in my opinion. I have an Inspire 4G (HTC Desire HD) as well as an HTC HD2 and I had an HTC HD7. All are and were (hardware wise for the HD2 and HD7) excellent and superbly reliable and well built. My Inspire is the friggin love of my gadget life. I have not ever owned a phone like the Inspire that ever impressed me as much as it has. The Thunderbolt is basically the exact same as the Inspire/Desire HD except with front facing camera and other stuff...the LTE radio, as well.
If I were going to Verizon, the Thunderbolt would be my no-thought, no-blink choice. The Bionic is pretty much Verizon's version if the Atrix from AT&T. It has had some issues and the UI isn't as smooth as Sense 2.0. Plus if you want to customize, Motorola isn't too keen on an open platform. The Bionic looks good in specs and appearance, but that only goes so far. At the end of the day, the Thunderbolt will keep impressing you.
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Agreed... I'm not one for brand loyalty, they all seem to have their ups and downs. HTC is on a great roll currently, and still seem to have something to prove.
My last phone was a sony and it was a horiffic letdown, as was my wifes X10. Both were some of the best around on paper. Premium price, nice design, AWFUL build quality and rotten support.
The other big plus is HTC tend to keep updating their handsets - the old desire is still getting 'em! Most other companies tend to stop caring once they have your money.

HTC is the RollsRoyce of phones

Rumor has it when the bionic comes out, it will come with new data pricing for 4G. Possibly tiered and higher rates.
You don't want the thunderbolt because its basically a refresh of the EVO. Tbolt has a better screen, 2nd generation qualcomm, better camera, more memory pre installed, new kickstand design, louder speaker, and its 4G at 30 bucks unlimited. All these reasons are not enough to get the phone now. ........sarcasm.
Get your bionic and have motoblur ... Yuck. Plus the bionic is ugly phone. Your truly going to sacrifice everything just for a first generation dual core phone?! ........besides you want a dual core dual channel phone but that's another story.

So far the only reason anyone has given to get the Thunderbolt is because they think HTC is better than Motorola. That is not a valid reason.
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Inspire or Atrix?

This is the big question for me. On the one hand I love HTC devices and the screen size (i am a long time HD2 user until I flashed it to death ). On the other hand, it seems like its a rehash of 1 year old technology, with that terrible battery and camera (im using a Captivate and the quality diffefence compared to any HTC device I have used is massive), and the Atrix looks incredible on paper (battery, dual core, peripherals, screen resolution etc). Trouble is, whenever I get a non HTC device, I spend days tryimg to get it to have the look and feel of an HTC device!
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Im the same way. I have a captivated know and will be getting an Inspire. Im really not a fan of Motorola phones. I want either the Inspire or the Infuse. Leaning toward the Inspire in big way tho.
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Yea, I'm going with HTC, they just seem better built and like you said, with my other Android phones I try to make my non HTC to look like htc, lol!
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I love HTC devices too. Even with the older tech and a little bit less in the way of specs, I'd choose the Inspire any day. I'm not a fan of Motorola phones regardless which carrier they've been on. I just haven't had a good one dating all the way back past the razr and up to the first droid. Next, because of the bootloader stuff they did with the Droid X, I imagine they'll try to lock the Atrix down even if they say they're going to work with devs. I love my Aria, no problems at all and it's been a great phone. I kinda see the inspire as a big brother to the Aria which is why I'm going for it as soon as I can.
The Inspire does have its shortcoming but I like AT&T and I like HTC. I'm willing to sacrifice on a few features (battery, CPU, front camera) in order to get what I think is better quality and user experience of an HTC phone. I'm currently still on a Tilt 2 and I will be able to upgrade in May. If at MWC this month nothing better that would hit AT&T this year from HTC is shown then I'll just go with the Inspire.
I'm thinking since the Inspire is being introduced at a lower price than the Atrix then perhaps a purchase at full price for the Inspire with no contract might be worth it in order to save the upgrade credit for something later that might come out toward the end of the year.
I had both in my hand this week, including the Atrix laptop dock. Very nice.
But I think the Inspire seemed more...quality. New Sense interface, great camera controls and efx, 8mp camera with VERY bright dual LED flash. And half the price.
Atrix + Laptop bundle will be $500 on contract. Atrix alone $199
Inspire is $99 on contract.
I'm leaning Inspire
I've had the HTC Inspire 4G in my hands for three days now (be sure to check out some of the videos and blogs posts I've written up already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940312) and I can say that you will not be disappointed with the Inspire. The unibody aluminum case makes the phone feel solid. I played around with the Atrix at CES last month and was not particularly impressed with the handset's external hardware. Also, the higher resolution screen looked a bit off with the home screen UI and many applications.
I don't know why people keep referring to the Inspire and Thunderbolt as being phones with rehashed technology from last year. Yes, the second generation Snapdragon processor did come out last year, but the first phones to use them only started showing up in late fall. If that's your standard for calling something old, the first devices powered by the NVIDIA Tegra 2 surfaced right around the same time.
The processor in this phone performs nearly 50% better than the 1GHz processor found in the EVO and Nexus One (first generation Snapdragon processors).
The Inspire is a well rounded handset with a good camera, decent batter life, and solid benchmark numbers. No, it will not outperform the Atrix or any other phone with a Tegra 2 processor, but at least you can trust the HTC quality and know that it'll probably get an official Android update somewhere down the road.
I originally wanted the Inspire, then once I saw the specs--I thought about the Atrix as my next phone. But now, I think I'll want the Inspire again.
Honestly, I really like the phone. Specs-wise, next the the Atrix, well--old tech.
Next to the Captivate I have now--more of the same. But I'd pick the Inspire over my Captivate any day of the week.
I'm just waiting until it comes out so I can ring warranty and have them send me one to fiddle around with.
Cyanogen. Enough said. HTC inspire is quality work. Yes not the best internal spec. Atrix looks impressive on paper. But for those of us who live on xda atrix will not do it for us. Inspire has many devs already working on roms themes and kernels. Ands its hspa+ it will be a upgrade from my N1.
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ill be comming to android officialy from the Tilt 2 to inspire. i was wowed by the atrix but after thinking about what my boss has gone through with his droid and what i have seen i think the inspire will be the way to go!
Droppa said:
Im the same way. I have a captivated know and will be getting an Inspire. Im really not a fan of Motorola phones. I want either the Inspire or the Infuse. Leaning toward the Inspire in big way tho.
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I think flash happy people with Captivates should and will lean to the Inspire. Seeing as how hard it has been for the Dev community to cook something up rather than spliced together samsung roms. HTC devices just seem so much easier to dev. I am afraid that if I go to Motorola I will have the same issues. I don't know if it is just more Devs on HTC devices or that they are just that much easier to crack. Seems like the other devices are just harder to get anything good on them.
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I think flash happy people with Captivates should and will lean to the Inspire. Seeing as how hard it has been for the Dev community to cook something up rather than spliced together samsung roms. HTC devices just seem so much easier to dev. I am afraid that if I go to Motorola I will have the same issues. I don't know if it is just more Devs on HTC devices or that they are just that much easier to crack. Seems like the other devices are just harder to get anything good on them.
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I can attest to this. I have had the captivate since a couple weeks after launch and have been yearning for some cyanogenmod love as well as any ui other than touchwiz. It seems like the devs for the captivate have a really hard time doing anything besides splicing cappy leaks together and while I have run some ready quick and efficient roms, I am always checking the htc forums with envy. I am going to get the infuse pending a better htc device coming out at MWD.
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The Inspire is definitely the headsup winner.
Honestly who is really going to use that FrontFacingCamera anyways if it even had it other than make some real time video pron, hahaha
The only question Im asking myself is if there are any 1400mAh or 1500mAh aftermarket batteries that I can swap out after buying it.
1230 mAh is low in comparison to other phones with similar specs
Inspire 4G FTW!
Inspire all the way Atrix is full of hype and no promise. Locked boot, dual cores wont be utilized fully and motoblur is crap
I'm debating between the two as well.
I think what is keeping me from choosing is:
A) continued support from HTC and AT&T, as well as dev support if I wanted it (most likely would, I jailbroke my iphone about two months after I got it)
B) a huge part of the Atrix IS it's docks. I was never interested in them in the first place, just it's specs. So I'd almost be buying half a product
C) build quality! My plastic iphone 3G is literally about to split in half, right where the white plastic and bezel meet. I'm tired of plastic phones.
the Atrix is looking like this: higher res, biometric lock, dual core, RAM, battery
Inspire: Build quality, support, camera (debatable, but still more Megs)
it's not old tech, take a look at the comparisons of the Inspire and the Evo 4G, it's clearly a new device in a similar casing
http://mobile.downloadatoz.com/comparision,htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-evo-4g-black-sprint.html
I for one look forward to getting mine on (next) Monday. I love my captivate, but I love HTC more.
I have also been wondering if I should leave the captivate and jump to the Atrix or Inspire. I am always one for the latest and greatest so I was leaning towards the Atrix or holding out for another 2 core phone. After reading a lot and browsing these pages I just about want to go for the inspire. Man do I hate decisions!!
After having a Nexus One I'm sold on HTC hardware. I'm going to get the Inspire and love it...at least until HTC releases something better.
However, since I think it will be months before HTC releases another compelling phone on AT&T, I'll be alright with that. The minute you buy technology it's already outdated, and either you can get used to that idea or you can spend exorbitant amounts of money trying to keep up.
I'll get the Inspire for $99 and use the money I save on it (plus the money I get from flipping my Nexus One) to get a tablet this spring. Can't wait for the first HTC Honeycomb tablet!
If Sony Ericsson is saying the Arc is their top tier phone well then the Inspire 4G is really not all that outdated and irrelevant.
Sure its not a dual-core behemoth but from what the early reviewers have said is with the specs it will have when its released, the smartphone is fast and responsive.
Check out my other thread on the similarties to the Arc and other Snapdragon phones and will see that with overclocking, bootloader and rom support this can potentially turn into a dual core beast performace wise.
What can you buy nowadays for $99 anyways, not even a burnt out everyday iPhone or extremely outdated Blackberry.
At least with the Inspire you know right away that potentially all the hard work and Devlopment from the Desire HD thread can be carried over to us.
The Inspire 4G will stay active for a good while in my opinion, I can atest to HTC quality since I still own the phone that started it all the HTC Dream / G1.
This phone has been dropped on concrete, slammed againt walls, thrown around like a bad habit and is still going strong and even have a fast/ stable version of Froyo 2.2.1 with apps2sd enabled and running with zero issues. This phone was only offically updated til 1.6 Donut from HTC and T-Mobile yet the incredible xda community has kept it going and left all who own it satisfied.
That to me is a prime example of what HTC quality, xda support and those out there with the potential to make a good phone great in the Months and Years ahead.
Check out the Samsung and Sony forums those guys are truly regretting their purchases from barely a few months ago while I'm still content from a phone from 2008.
Proof positive that this purchase will be a smart one from whomever takes a chance on it when its released to the public.
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Inspire vs Atrix

I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
Thoughts?
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I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
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Honestly I can't say I'm a fan of pentile screens like the Atrix has. Not to mention I read somewhere(cannot verify accuracy)that the Dalvik VM system on Froyo at the very least does not support multithreading so a dual core won't make any difference yet.
Plus, I have had bad experiences with Moto. I'm pretty happy with HTC so far.
Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.
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...software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks.
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Yes, this. Very much this.
I really Like HTC to. Don't really care about Sense since I use Launcher Pro. I guess its a matter of wait and see.
wookiebush said:
I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
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I just did the exact same thing, still waiting for the inspire to arrive though. I came from the Evo and I love HTC products, I think I'll keep it afterall and wait for the next HTC flagship phone.
The Atrix is more future proof than the Inspire with dual core and a gig of ram. Froyo may not take full advantage of dual core, but how about future builds? Gaming will certainly be smoother and with that huge battery I should be able to get through a day of heavy usage. I can't seem to do that with my Inspire unless I turn off most of the things I like about the phone. It's a tough choice, but blur doesn't bother me so I may make the jump.
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Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.
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Quoted for troof. HTC is the manufacturer who seems to get it right.
It looks like the difference that the inspire has a .3 inch bigger/lower resolution screen screen, 8GB less memory, higher MP camera (8MP), has digital compass, has HTC sence (maybe better than momto blur?), has fm radio.
I guess it just depends on what features are important to you. My only real question is about the insire's FM radio. Is it actually functioning out of the box or did att disable it?
Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.
Androidude said:
Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.
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I just exchanged my Atrix for an Inspire yesterday.
After rooting and unlocking, adding CM7 and the 1.8Ghz kernel, I can say with 100% confidence that I made the right choice switching.
Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
I think everyone over there in the Atrix forum is coming to the conclusion that their phones will probably never see an unlocked bootloader, and are jumping ship because of it.
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Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
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^This.....I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks so. I think the Atrix display looks horrible. I continually ponder how more people don't make mention of it. I came from a Captivate (which I still have) and the Inspire before I tried the Atrix and its quality leaves A LOT to be desired.
I still have both devices. And I had decided to return the atrix once or twice but cannot pull the trigger because of the hardware. Everything else, is better on the inspire. I feel like I have to force myself to like the Atrix. I've given it a try (a day's run) and each time I went back to the inspire. Hm, I'll see how it plays out.
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I am extremely confident with my decision to get the inspire. I love the screen and man this thing is fast. Even though the atrix has better specs I really think that the inspire, once rooted and oc'ed is way faster. I pop in to the atrix forums once in a while and it just solidifies my confidence that I got the right phone. Everyone over there is complaining about one thing or another, which wouldnt be that big of deal because Android is so customizable, but that isnt the case with MOTO because of the locked bootloader. Also who really wants to have to wait for official updates? Especially from companies like MOTO and Samsung. I am happy.
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Depends what you are looking for. If you are looking for a phone that under-performs but looks great on a stat sheet - Atrix is for you. I had nothing but hate for that phone after just 3 days of using it. Its sluggish, the UI is clunky, animations were horribly slow.
Inspire has a far better screen believe it or not. It has no pixelation that I can even see (atrix had a ton) and the colors are far far far more accurate. The atrix couldnt even do the color yellow.
Atrix - 2/10 stars
Inspire - 9/10
So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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I haven't experienced this.
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jamespaulritter said:
So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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Using RCMixHD and have no issue with this, its super slick and smooth.
You might want to take the custom Rom route anyways to maximize the performance and features of the phone.
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Does the inspire have any sort of tv out capabilities
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had atrix for 3 days and for all 3 days tried to full my self i like the phone... nope didnt work. second day into.. dead pixels exchanged to find screen off to the left and actually twisted another one and the same problem, overall the qhd screen is horrible just go ahead and search something in google and look at the smaller text you'll see the pixels are missing . motorola screwed this one completely ; the phone really feels like was put together in some tiny village in 3th world country. side by side inspire feels smoother faster ( ain't no joke) and with iphone build quality.the last feature got my girlfriends attention and trust me she's one of this iphone4 owners that no matter what point you'll make that makes android shine vs iphone she'll tell ya i don't care. and i dont care if the atrix is better with games , pointless feature if u ask me... ill stick with my ps3 for real gaming experience. would be nice to have hdmi out and louder speaker otherwise thats pretty much what's missing. inspire much better phone.

Switch to Atrix???

Ok. I have had the inspire since it came out and I think its a huge upgrade from the captivate. My question is, for another $50 should I go to the Atrix?
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For another 50? It will cost me 100 more plus the 35.00 restoring fee. And I'm buying one today to compare to my inspire. I love the inspire but the atrix also looks nice so going to see which one I keep. The inspire screen looks much bigger than the 4.0 on the atrix, I have to see if it will make a difference web browsing n watching movies.
I'm keeping both for a while. Absolutely love the inspire, but those specs on the atrix are just too irresistible.
Yeah with an available upgrade you can get an atrix for $149 from radioshack. I went from a cappy to a surround to a focus (wp7 needs alot of work) to an inspire. I love it but the screen has some touch issues and it has locked up on me a few times. So I am a little concerned about that. Plus dual core is hard for a nerd like me to ignore.
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Plus dual core is hard for a nerd like me to ignore.
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Ditto lol......
I know dual core, but will the Atrix be LTE compatible?
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I loved the atrix at first. Then I tried my inspire. For me at least Android without htc sense just feels like something is missing. I came from a nexus one to nexus s to iPhone 4 and now to my inspire. The atrix seems like As close as you'll get to a pure Google experience on at&t at least. I'm tempted to check one out only because of the awesome screen and hdmi out. But thats bot enough to make me switch from my sense to motoblur. That's the deal breaker for me... if only the inspire had a fingerprint reader
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That is a very good point about LTE. It may be a monster of a phone but there is definitely no LTE support that I have read about. From my understanding AT&T will be putting out LTE phones this year but not for a while.
Also good to know about motoblur. I am a huge, HUGE, fan of Sense. I came from samsung's horrible touchwiz so sense has completely restored my faith in android. I have read several reviews that were not to keen on motoblur and I don't want to get caught up in constant rom flashing like I was with the captivate. Seems like everyday i was flashing a new rom and that just got old.
Either way, I will never go back to the iPhone. Not unless they make major improvements to their OS. But thats for another thread.
unless I am mistaking the Inspire doesn't have LTE support either, right?
Inspire might not be LTE compatible either, but It's half the price and had a bigger screen.
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That is a very good point about LTE. It may be a monster of a phone but there is definitely no LTE support that I have read about. From my understanding AT&T will be putting out LTE phones this year but not for a while.
Also good to know about motoblur. I am a huge, HUGE, fan of Sense. I came from samsung's horrible touchwiz so sense has completely restored my faith in android. I have read several reviews that were not to keen on motoblur and I don't want to get caught up in constant rom flashing like I was with the captivate. Seems like everyday i was flashing a new rom and that just got old.
Either way, I will never go back to the iPhone. Not unless they make major improvements to their OS. But thats for another thread.
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Yeah, I loathe motoblur. I just got the atrix and I hate it as much as everyone else that I've read. The first thing I'm doing is loading on ADW Ex....
And sense is amazing. It should be the standard on android.
Just came from an AT&T store to handle the Atrix and the 1st impression was WOW, small screen, maybe because there's hardly any bezel it makes the screen seem dwarfish. When I placed it alongside the Inspire it was noticeably smaller. I honestly don't know if I can downgrade in screen size.
shawn1224 said:
Just came from an AT&T store to handle the Atrix and the 1st impression was WOW, small screen, maybe because there's hardly any bezel it makes the screen seem dwarfish. When I placed it alongside the Inspire it was noticeably smaller. I honestly don't know if I can downgrade in screen size.
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I noticed this too.....what a difference from the inspire.....hard to believe the difference is only .3 inches
I just checked the Atrix at my friendly ATT shop, and I'm not sold to exchange my inspire for the Atrix. Colors seem better on the inspire, but the whites look whiter on the Atrix. Quadrant and nenamark1 were amazingly faster on the Atrix. I also checked the laptop dock and I was not impress by it. I check YouTube @ 1080p and it couldn't handle it. Even 720p was jittery. What do you guys think?
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I too was less then impressed with Atrix so I'll stick with Inspire at least for now. Hopefully Infuse will drop soon.
nevermind ....
CM7 will never make it to the atrix and development will be restricted to the same kernel released by moto. So hell no.
I went to the ATT store with the intent of trading my inspire for an Atrix. I played with it for a few minutes and decided it wouldn't be an upgrade for me. I mainly use my phone for texting, email and twitter. Dual core can't improve that experience very much. Maybe I'd see it a different way if I played lots of games on my phone but I don't.
They even let me play with the laptop dock, which further cemented my decision. It really can't compete with even the cheapest of netbooks out today. Too slow, especially on pages with flash.
I also just like the massive solid metal feel over the plastic of the Atrix.
If you guys are looking for speed, our CPU overclocked to 1.6 feels much faster than the atrix. I'm well satisfied with my purchase.
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If you guys are looking for speed, our CPU overclocked to 1.6 feels much faster than the atrix. I'm well satisfied with my purchase.
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how is the battery on the overclocked ROM?

AT&T Users: Why'd you choose Inspire over Atrix?

Was it the cost, at $100 vs. $200?
The functionality?
The design?
Why'd you choose the Inspire?
I chose the Inspire over the Atrix simply because many reviews online claimed that Atrix was sluggish, bogged down with a lot of bloatware (which Inspire also had, but apparently managed better than the Atrix), and didn't utilize dual core effectively to warrant having a dual core. Reviews also claimed the HTC Sense was more appealing than the motoblur, which I agree on.
So, I chose the more "inferior" product, by spec, the Inspire 4G. I didn't even look up the rooting community when I was deciding this, figuring both products had equal root-capability, and equal community-support.
Simply because of cost. I now greatly regret not waiting until I had enough money. I wish I had the Atrix.
Why?
techluvr said:
Simply because of cost. I now greatly regret not waiting until I had enough money. I wish I had the Atrix.
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Unlocked bootloader, bigger better screen, CM7 working, build quality, unlocked bootloader, and I wanted a Desire HD from the minute I saw one.
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I bricked my atrix after a week and exchanged it for the inspire. Couldn't do the locked down bootloader
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Made by HTC (Nothing against moto and its products)
HTC Sense over Moto blur
Better Design, Better color (in my opnion)
Bigger screen
Cheaper (not that price had matter to me at the time
unlocked bootloader
Much better rom choice(Desire HD same as the Inspire 4G)
Over all i just like the phone because it reminds me of my EVO, but better with better service (where i live)
Not locked down.
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Simply because of cost. I now greatly regret not waiting until I had enough money. I wish I had the Atrix.
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Why on earth?. The atrix has a signer bootloader. It also lags horribly. I had two of them, money wasn't a concern, and they were both gone in a few weeks. The inspire is faster bone stock, don't care what any of the atrix users say. I did a **** load of different speed tests, inspire won every one. Atrix lags with a live wallpaper, no neon support, signed bootloader, signed bootloader, signed bootloader, plus it has a signed bootloader.
Inspire is faster stock, and can be made A LOT faster with a kernel.
Atrix has a signed bootloader.
Bigger screen. Came from iphone3gs and the screen dazzled me! Now when I look up something on my now glorified Touch, I wonder how I ever dealt with such a tiny screen!
It has been a real pleasure finding XDA and learning so much about how these phones work. I don't think I have ever seen my wife's eyes glaze over so much as they have since I have stumbled onto XDA and excitedly tell her all the stuff I'm learning!
Did y'all know you can make phone calls on this thing too? I mean, wow! ;-)
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Made by HTC (Nothing against moto and its products)
HTC Sense over Moto blur
Better Design, Better color (in my opnion)
Bigger screen
Cheaper (not that price had matter to me at the time
unlocked bootloader
Much better rom choice(Desire HD same as the Inspire 4G)
Over all i just like the phone because it reminds me of my EVO, but better with better service (where i live)
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All of the same reasons why i chose the inspire (i hate motoblur)
I actually went from iPhone 3GS to the Atrix the day it came out. It felt cheap, motoblur is just awful, locked bootloader, camera sucked, but even with all that the real killer was the call quality, which everyone I talked too said I sounded like I was muffled or foggy.
I returned it the next day, got the Inspire and have been extremely pleased with this phone. Never looked back.
Went with Inspire primarily because of my history with HTC phones. First one was a Fuze running WinMo 6.1, later 6.5 stock ROM's. Thanks to the XDA community, I learned a lot about rooting, installed different ROM's, then dove into the Android pool. My wife had an Aria for a few months and she loved Sense and Android. I picked up the Inspire next and she recently got one for herself.
Best features: HTC Sense, reliable hardware, unlocked bootloader, support from HTC and XDA communities, pleasant history with the devices.
1. It's HTC
2. It's Not motorola. ...
3. half the price and I found it was faster then all the other phones Att is offering.
4. ATT doesn't really have a better phone slated for release. LG Dual core.....puhlease LG is gabage.
5. Screen size. This is the first phone that I actually surfer the net with for enjoyment. The screen size is perfect.
6. Rom, Rom, and more Rom.
7. I got to come back to XDA...I lost touch with this awesome place when I went apple.
Money is the last concern when picking a phone for me. I was dead set on an atrix but decided to use one first. That phone is what gives android a bad name to all the iPhans. Its painfully slow. If the bootloader were open I would probably overlook the build quality, but alas no gas.
MOTO had a huge opportunity and they blew it. The inspire is selling like crazy from what I see. People use the atrix in the store and wonder why in hell its so damned slow. Doesnt it have a vtehk Duel kore with naz.
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Printerscape said:
Was it the cost, at $100 vs. $200?
The functionality?
The design?
Why'd you choose the Inspire?
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Sense, Motoblur was horrendous, the Inspire's screen is noticeably larger (which I prefer), and the Atrix's screen quality was horrible imo.
Same as others...I don't like Blur. I don't trust Motorola hardware either. But having the Inspire has shown me how excellent HTC can be. Sense is world-class. And at one point there were rumors HTC was going to do their own mobile OS around Sense rather than it being an add-on to other OSes.
Anyway, the Inspire is inspirational. I love mine. I keep it stock and it still runs as smooth and fast as a WP7 device. It has some hiccups from time to time, but nothing bad.
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. . .having the Inspire has shown me how excellent HTC can be. Sense is world-class.
. . . the Inspire is inspirational. I love mine. I keep it stock and it still runs as smooth and fast as a WP7 device. It has some hiccups from time to time, but nothing bad.
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+1!!!
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire
had the atrixx for 2 weeks...in those 2 weeks went through 2 constant locking up of screen...would freeze alot.... went to a dell streak....now that was a nice one...but same flaws...lots of freezing.....said what the heck....tried the inspire and man this is quality...nice durable...fast....no freezing...and many roms to choose from.....and overclocking...o yea...
Looks and feels cheap!

So whose all going to get sgs2 for T-Mobile??

Nice battery, big screen.
Wondering if there will be lack of development because its not going to be able to use the international roms if I'm right?
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I would, if I didn't have to pay out the wazoo for it lol. Hardware-wise, it'll smoke the Sensation 4G, well, except for resolution! But, even with that, it has the SAMOLED+ screen which is probably much better than ours (even though ours is pretty good).
I might wait till I find someone who gets sick if it and wants to trade for MT sensation. Lol
U never know I may get lucky. The sooner the better
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HTC build quality is much better, plus I'm an HTC loyalist. HTC phones always feel more solid and sturdy than the plasticky samsung phones. They're too light weight almost and feel like I could break them with my bear hands. I like the aluminum frame of the Sensation. I'm very happy with my sensation. SAMOLED screens are better in most cases, but I had a friend who owned a vibrant and that screen had an annoying blue tinge, as do most of the samoled screens I think. The screen I have has very pure whites and surprisingly dark blacks, and is fine in sunlight, especially compared to my old phone. I can read texts just fine in bright daylight, this screen is very bright. Plus the resolution is higher. I love the qHD screen.
I am day one....selling my sensation
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The nice thing about the T-Mobile sgs2 is its not plastic. Its brushed aluminum from the looks of it which is just gorgeous.
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The nice thing about the T-Mobile sgs2 is its not plastic. Its brushed aluminum from the looks of it which is just gorgeous.
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So the sgs2 is different than the sgs4g? I must be thinking of a different device. The sgs2 is the Samsung galaxy s two right?
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Ill be getting my s2 maybe trade my sensation on craigslist for one. There's always those people dam I wish ididnt get the s2.
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I'll be getting one but keeping the Sensation. I love that big screen and I'm not thrilled with HTC's build quality. Everything on my Sensation seems a little loose and shakey, but I'm curious to see what the dev's will do with it.
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I would, if I didn't have to pay out the wazoo for it lol. Hardware-wise, it'll smoke the Sensation 4G, well, except for resolution! But, even with that, it has the SAMOLED+ screen which is probably much better than ours (even though ours is pretty good).
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Please elaborate how it would "smoke" the sensation hardware wise.
Sgs2 is Samsung galaxy uhh woops. Its sg2 lol.
The sgs4g was the virbrant plus flash and 4g. Single core.
Sg2 is dual core.
I like sense and I have feeling sense will only.get faster with upcoming roms but if it doesn't seem to get much better I'm definetly going sg2.
I'm not saying sense roms are slow now. They are really fast. Just not lightening fast.
QUOTE=MusicMan374;18103388]So the sgs2 is different than the sgs4g? I must be thinking of a different device. The sgs2 is the Samsung galaxy s two right?
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Why...
Are people on here so addicted to new tech that they will jump to another phone as soon as a new one comes out?
I got the phone I wanted on a 2yr contract knowing that in less than 6m it would be surpassed by something newer but not neccessarily better.
I like the Sensation and can't see me changing for the S2 espec as I would not be able to cover the cost of a sim-free version.
If I had wanted the S2 I would have got it and then lived with it for the life of my contract
The Sensation is not a perfect phone, but it's a darn good one (better than the iphone 3g) I came from.
I dont think the phone will be any faster than the sensation considering its not shipping with the exynos SOC/
So outta curiosity how truly good is cyanogenmod? Someone who really knows his stuff.
Cause I tried it on sensation just a bit ago and although yea it is quick it didn't blow me away. Went right back to sense.
Also deriving from what I mentikned up there I saw someone post something about a new nexus s being faster then cyanogenmod??
I mention this because one of my friends whose a girl and knows nkthig about phones had soooo much crap on the nexus s. It was the sprint version I believe. And with like three messaging apps all running, many different browsers, and seriusly a whole lotta crap the phone was sooooo fast.
I literally was stunned. It was stock and every single thing I did on it was instantaneous.
And u know when u see bunch of stuff in notification bar and u just kinda know it ll lag a bit. I felt that but was surprised with zero lag.
It sadly has me thinking...
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I'm planning to sell my Sensation and buy the Galaxy S2 once it's released for T-Mobile USA!
poopymt3g said:
I dont think the phone will be any faster than the sensation considering its not shipping with the exynos SOC/
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The Sensation has a higher resolution screen, and that hits performance because the phone has to push data to more pixels; also the Sensation and SG2 have similar processors (as you pointed out) but the Sensation runs at 1.2 MHz and the SG2 runs at 1.5 MHz.
ROMs aside, the SG2 is faster on paper.
MusicMan374 said:
HTC build quality is much better, plus I'm an HTC loyalist. HTC phones always feel more solid and sturdy than the plasticky samsung phones. They're too light weight almost and feel like I could break them with my bear hands. I like the aluminum frame of the Sensation. I'm very happy with my sensation. SAMOLED screens are better in most cases, but I had a friend who owned a vibrant and that screen had an annoying blue tinge, as do most of the samoled screens I think. The screen I have has very pure whites and surprisingly dark blacks, and is fine in sunlight, especially compared to my old phone. I can read texts just fine in bright daylight, this screen is very bright. Plus the resolution is higher. I love the qHD screen.
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I agree with you I have always like the HTC build quality but performance wise they have been lacking and the debacle the caused with the so called Bootloader unlock then say screw you no warranty was the icing on the cake. I came from a Evo 4g to the Sensation to the Epic 4G Touch resolution not a problem for me. the performance and smoothness of the OS what's going to appeal to the OS faithful that may come running seeing that Apple decided to give them nothing. this year basically all this hype and they got what would be a 3GS to the 4g lol.
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iftikar666 said:
Are people on here so addicted to new tech that they will jump to another phone as soon as a new one comes out?
I got the phone I wanted on a 2yr contract knowing that in less than 6m it would be surpassed by something newer but not neccessarily better.
I like the Sensation and can't see me changing for the S2 espec as I would not be able to cover the cost of a sim-free version.
If I had wanted the S2 I would have got it and then lived with it for the life of my contract
The Sensation is not a perfect phone, but it's a darn good one (better than the iphone 3g) I came from.
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I will give you that. I love HTC Sense as well but I believe that as of right now its to bloated and holding back what the processor is really capable of.
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well i got play with the Amaze a couple days ago and i can tell you for a fact that the processor is definately snappier in stock form , i was getting 2700 quadrant scores with it stock , now with that said i think the SGS2 will be alot faster running a more vanilla android, I am planning on getting a SGS2 and i cant believe im even saying that ,reason being is that the sensation is falling apart on me , the glass coverig my camera lens fell out and that wasnt a big deal to me until the rocker on the volume button fell off , now i dont know if flashing three thousand times already has something to do with it but im a little dissapointed by that. all being said i just want a bigger screen and thats the main reason plus it gets the better processor and front camera
Not me
I wanted an SGS2 bad enough to almost buy one from overseas unlocked when they first hit the market. But since Samsung decided to release it here last, there are new phones coming out before the end of the year that by far surpass the SGS2. America is the largest consumer of High-end smart phones (yes, i researched it) mainly because we constantly upgrade to the newest and best. Samsung was stupid to release it here last. If someone gave me an SGS2 in trade i'd do it, but it's not worth sinking more cash into a new SGS2 when quad-core is literally right around the corner. Plus phones like the Sharp Aquas and the Note (can't remember which company is making it) will be out in a few months and they surpass the SGS2 in speed, display, screen size, etc. (and these aren't event quad-core as far as the specs ive seen, but still better than the SGS2).
Anyways, that's my 2 cents. I'll be waiting for a Quad-core device with Ice Cream Sandwich. Plus, the PS vita is quad-core and you can make calls from it Better than PS3 graphics in the palm of my hand! Talk about a gaming device! hahahahah

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