[Q] [REQ]Porting Android to PRE- - WebOS Software and Hacking General

Yea I know webos is "better" os but has no apps and no onscreen keyboards.
So my question is can it be done, not if or why but can it be installed. Android
already runs on omap and I think the moto droid is simular.

Hm. I seem to be using an on-screen keyboard on a daily basis. And... No apps? Ehm. Well, I think maybe you should just switch to an Android phone and save some time, ours as well

Eventually hackers will become restles and get other platforms booting on the Pre, but for now web OS suffices.

The point would really to be to boot WebOS on other phones, not the other way around!

Oh i have no doubt that that will happen too, but hackers being hackers curiosity will get the better of them,
Mark my words, once HP release their X86 web OS platform you will start seeing it on every device imaginable.

LazPL said:
The point would really to be to boot WebOS on other phones, not the other way around!
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That's like saying can I put Ios on a pre
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I remember there being a small project on this before, but it didn't go very far. The funny thing is, there was a project to get Android on omap ( https://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/omapandroid/ ), but then the Droid with an omap SoC came out.

I would also love to see WebOS 2.0 on non HP/Palm Phones like HTC HD2 or Nokia N900
These phones are very good to port different OS on them.

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ivopapus said:
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Sorry this is not meant to

as i know, there already have such kind of project, i've seen on a chinese forum before.
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i've found the url in my computer's browsing history, but the content is Chinese:
treo8.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=202448
unfortunately, the author said for
some personal reasons, he has to suspend the development for about a month.
in his thread, he also mentioned that he had put his work on google code, however, it's still chinese
so if you need i'm glad to translate it into english, but i'm also busy with my bachelor thesis and have mobile network only, maybe not so fast
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LazPL said:
The point would really to be to boot WebOS on other phones, not the other way around!
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I agree 100% but with webOS 2.0 or greater.

lvav06 said:
I agree 100% but with webOS 2.0 or greater.
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agree too, but the core codes of webos
is not open, so it may not be that easy
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you can check that
http://www.precentral.net/android-dual-booted-pre-hardware

But pre lacks the menu,home,back keys

yuanyan89 said:
But pre lacks the menu,home,back keys
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The pre has a touch sensitive interface, and if anything you can put those buttons on the screen.

why dont u just have both phones i got an apple and a android phone

http://forums.precentral.net/other-handhelds/278450-android-pre-5.html#post2940959
but it didnt work on mine

if anyone wants to experiment with a palm pre. i have one that is not in use, it's for sprint. And yeah, i would love to see webOS on other phones, would love to be able to dualboot my g2 with android and webos.

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[Q] [2 ALL DEVS] Any chance to see WebOS/iOS/WP7 on NS/NS4G?

With the UnBrickable Mod?
I read that webOs was ported to the Evo, and many mobile Os can be flashed on the HD2.
So, is possible to see other mobile Operating systems on our smartphone?
Share your experience, i wanna know about the incredible world of mobile operating systems
Happy New Year 2 all the estimated Developers and all the members of XDA!!!
Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too
Romonster said:
Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too [/QUOT
Lucky you, you managed to succeed without trying
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So far, nobody answered my question....i'm confused
doubtful. Not enough interest.
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vetvito said:
doubtful. Not enough interest.
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Far from it. The reason we'll probably never see webos or wp7 on the nexus s is that neither of those os's are fully open source like android, in fact wp7 is completely closed source.
webOS was ported to the Evo 3D but virtually nothing worked from what I remember, making it far from useful, useable, or anything past booting really.
Ios - Never been ported to anything non-apple (as far as I know).
Meego - Possible I guess, but I dont know why anyone would bother putting that amount of time into it.
WebOS - Looking possible, its going open source i hear, but the nexus S community is only going to decrease due to the release of the Galaxy Nexus
Windows Mobile - Dead
Windows Phone 7 - This was ported to the HD2 as the HD2 was used as a test phone for the OS and the drivers got leaked! Microsoft used it as it was a high spec Windows Mobile phone. (It got android as it was very similar to other HTC phones that ran Android, such as the N1 and Desire)
Ubuntu - I guess, probably wouldn't be too hard to get going, why anyone would want to I have no idea.
BB OS - hahaha...
so.... no interest.
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I realize this isn't what you're looking for, but if you're just interested in emulating the WP7 look, give Launcher7 from the market a try. I'd also recommend using the Ubermusic music player with the optional metro theme.
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Webos on Android Devices (Dual Boot)

I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
Abyss19707 said:
I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
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Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I know it is sad for lack of support but Webos fans will support this. A person on one of the Webos forums is trying to wire the HTC Shift to work with the touchpad's charging dock, so there is still hope!
WebOS isn't open source yet, that's why nobody is porting it. -_-
It's not open source YET, but in a few month it will be and I'm hopeful that some devs will port it on other devices then.
The are two things I'm a bit worried about is webOS for other phones. Since I read a blog post which was all about the open source plan of HP I afraid that only the Touchpads 3.x webOS will be open sourced.
The other thing is the maybe missing feature of using gestures on phones. I mean webOS is all about gestures and I love to use my Pre3 with these gestures and the special gesture area, cause it's easy to use and superfast. But when ported on a phone, let's say a Galaxy S2, will there be gestures or does the user have to use the stupid buttons?
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
lovenokia said:
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
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Where are you developers and porters?
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
T4L0n said:
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
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I would do that to my skyrocket too. It be nice to have gestures and simplicity WebOS. There's a mod out there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpnlyBb6xI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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tpmullan said:
I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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I would!
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njtroncoso said:
I would!
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i would too
My vote is to port it to a device with a massive user base, such as my SGS2, or an HD2. I still play with my Pre- and it sits on my coffee table. After reading The Verge post mortem I understand why it died, but it still is the best UX hands down. Imagine it running on blazing fast hardware, but I wonder how much is lost without a keyboard?
It seems that everyone has move on from webOS within the android community (well, almost everyone). I am one of the die hard fans of the OS and continue to use it daily. Of course, my needs for an OS are different from many , and I come from a solid Linux/Unix background. I have used palm products for years and followed webOS from the beginning. There are times when I come off like a fanboi for webOS but it has seemed to be an elegant solution for true multi tasking from the beginning. I hear most folks here talking of the untimely demise of webOS and cannot help but wonder if they have decided not to follow the development of Open WebOS. The community edition of webOS is due out in Sept and there are a number of major improvements coming with it. There is also the Phoenix project which may be building another tablet running the open source WebOS.
For those who have moved on from webOS and are satisfied with android, I bid you fair well. I will continue to work within the webOS community and look forward to future development. For those who are still on the fence, I would suggest a bit of patience as there are good things in the future of webOS and this fall really isn't that far off. Whichever OS you choose, remember that the touch pad that you have is still one of the few dual boot tablets on the market and (for those who were not early adopters) was purchased for a reduced price that would be hard to match by any other tablet manufacturer. The hardware is still pretty good compaired to most all dual core tablets and is still able to run cutting edge android builds. This alone would be a good argument for sticking with the touch pad but I stick with it for the things it continues to do well within webOS.
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Hi
I want to install Android OS on Palm Pixi Plus.
Can any one help for the same.
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HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
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I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
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I'll buy the lack of apps argument, but customization? Kiddin' me? Installing Preware couldn't be any easier if they tried. Only Windows Mobile was easier than webOS.
I would defiantly try it on my skyrocket.
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Ideally webOS that could run Android apps would be great. The UX on webOS is second only to Windows Phone IMO, but webOS needs the app power of Android.
I had a Pre+ for a weekend but after the third time swapping it out because of hardware problems, I gave up on it. The hardware was always the problem. They should have had HTC manufacture it like the Treos.
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I'd run it on my X8 I like the look of WebOS and nearly bought a PalmPre when they were released!
It would be great to see a revival of the software
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Windows phone 8 on the HTC one x

Hey guys so I was reading around on xda and found a thread for the hd7 saying that it would be possible because in windows phone it now supports multi core processors and a lot of stuff that android phones have what do you guys think of this
Here's the original post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769456
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Doesn't look like it's gonna happen man. The HD7 is a Windows 7 Phone which makes porting an OS like Win 8 somewhat simple. Getting Windows 8 on an Android device is going to take a deep knowledge of both systems and a lot of time. Hell, it might even be impossible, though on XDA I don't know if that word exists.
k4p741nkrunch said:
Doesn't look like it's gonna happen man. The HD7 is a Windows 7 Phone which makes porting an OS like Win 8 somewhat simple. Getting Windows 8 on an Android device is going to take a deep knowledge of both systems and a lot of time. Hell, it might even be impossible, though on XDA I don't know if that word exists.
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HD7 is a Windows phone.
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HD7 is a Windows phone.
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Yeah I know but even though what's the thing stopping like there isn't any hardware things that's stopping us right its just that it takes a huge amount of time and knowledge
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im pretty sure it would be illegal be cause of licensing concerns not that some of the brillant minded people couldnt do, I just think that that aspect would scare most people off
Windows phone has a set of hardware guidelines it has to meet. Only supports up to 512mb ram, 480x800 res, 1.5 single core cpu. Or at least that's what is was when I had mine. It world be really rough.
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kleeman7 said:
Windows phone has a set of hardware guidelines it has to meet. Only supports up to 512mb ram, 480x800 res, 1.5 single core cpu. Or at least that's what is was when I had mine. It world be really rough.
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yeah the reason i thjink its now possible is that on windows phone 8 all those guidelines are gone
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Yeah I know but even though what's the thing stopping like there isn't any hardware things that's stopping us right its just that it takes a huge amount of time and knowledge
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Legality and Drivers would probably be a good starting place of why it wouldnt be worth doing. Why would ANYONE waste their time doing something like this? Might as well just spend the money on a Win 8 Device. It would be like porting over IOS. Just no point.
nman123 said:
Yeah I know but even though what's the thing stopping like there isn't any hardware things that's stopping us right its just that it takes a huge amount of time and knowledge
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There are huge hardware issues. There are no drivers to make our hardware work with WP8, and would have to be made from scratch.
Plus, WP is closed source. So that greatly complicates the work needed to port it over. May also bring up some legal and licensing issues, as already mentioned.
The huge amount of effort and time is exactly what prevents WP OS being ported to any Android device. This questions gets asks for just about any Android device "can we port WP". Technically anything is "possible". But the huge amount of work means that nobody is going to be willing to port it over. Why go through all that work? It would be much easier to just buy a Windows Phone.
redpoint73 said:
There are huge hardware issues. There are no drivers to make our hardware work with WP8, and would have to be made from scratch.
Plus, WP is closed source. So that greatly complicates the work needed to port it over. May also bring up some legal and licensing issues, as already mentioned.
The huge amount of effort and time is exactly what prevents WP OS being ported to any Android device. This questions gets asks for just about any Android device "can we port WP". Technically anything is "possible". But the huge amount of work means that nobody is going to be willing to port it over. Why go through all that work? It would be much easier to just buy a Windows Phone.
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Or use one if the launchers in the play store that can give you the look and feel of wp.
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In addition to the other hardware requirements, WP also requires a dedicated hardware camera button. I don't see WP coming to the One X.
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ZeroRilix said:
Or use one if the launchers in the play store that can give you the look and feel of wp.
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launcher will give the look not the feel.
wp is way more fluid and animated than andorid.
it's just the way wp works its awesome.
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In addition to the other hardware requirements, WP also requires a dedicated hardware camera button. I don't see WP coming to the One X.
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nothing you can't emulate in a kernel ^^
sorry for the necro^^
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yossi2010 said:
launcher will give the look not the feel.
wp is way more fluid and animated than andorid.
it's just the way wp works its awesome.
nothing you can't emulate in a kernel ^^
sorry for the necro^^
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Ubuntu for phones

So, the news spreads fast. The first phone to get it will be GNex. Hoping developers will make me (and many others) happy and let us give it a try...
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android
Luckily, Ubuntu is supported from our HTC One S. So when the Ubuntu's image for Galaxy Nexus will be released, which good developer will take/port it to our phones ? On web people say that will be very easy port/take Ubuntu's Image for Galaxy Nexus to Mobile Phones with 1GB of Ram and Dual Core.
This would be awesome because Ubuntu doesnt give a **** about the Java vm and we could have native apps like wp8 and ios
Gonna follow this thread. Interesting !
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This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
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So that you can have a different version for every chipset and phone with incompatible drivers and incomprehensible instructions, just what the Linux community love.
"You want to what? make a phone call? that functionality won't be available until version 10.0.4.9.6.3.1 spangly-sugababe on your chipset."
Goatshocker said:
This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android
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I didn't understood the answer above, so here's mine - because Android is far from a pocket PC, in what will Ubuntu turn it in. And for all the people who know why they are here - "curiosity" and experimenting is the right answer.
This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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Yeah, android started a few years ago with 3000000 apps in the store
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having a full OS is nice, docking it and connecting to a monitor will transform your phone in a Desktop PC but, unfortunatelly, at least for now the system is veeery laggy and they don't have any release plans till 2014, by then Android and iOS will evolve even more and the 'need' for this kind of OS will no longer exist. Just MHO.
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sudo apt-get install angry_birds
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The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
Kernel
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Troute said:
The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
Kernel
File system
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Lol I love seeing some people who know Linux. While we giggle at these jokes others are like "huh?" Lol.
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The thing is, unless they plan on only releasing it on x86 devices, the compability will be terrible. So you will have a full desktop OS, with no "easy" way to install programs.
Its the same as Win8 ARM-version. Its not like you can install PC-games on it etc...
I really dont see the point in bringing in another mobile OS at this point. Android and iOS have had years to develop within the communities, and both OS's hosts a huge amount of apps.
The only thing android is missing for being a "laptop replacement", imo, is better multitasking, and ability to run every app in a small window instead of fullscreen (like OverSkreen and AirCalc).
And, of course, a taskbar to quickly change between windows.
Implement those things and I'll throw my laptop out of the window lol.
It will be compatible with both ARM and x86. And if it is using the resources more wisely - then give it to me. I miss many of the PC OS's functions on Android. And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.
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And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.
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No it wont.
Edit: well obviously if you insist of having 10 million programs open at once like on a PC, then yes.
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It will be compatible with both ARM and x86.
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Ah but which ARM chips? if it's anything like the support for current ARM products it will be only a very small selection of devices and even then getting it to work on a device with this graphics chip and that camera will be a difficult task, but that's for devs to worry about. What joe public will see is every phone with a completely different GUI and no 'standard' between them, which is what manufacturers want, so they can tie us into their own product line as per IOS.
Somebody posted elsewhere that Samsung were going to come up with their own OS, I disagreed but if Linux Mobile becomes a reality I may be proved wrong.
They said that will use even the same drivers as android. Both are linux based. So don't worry. Just wait, if you aare interested.
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Ubuntu will run fine. If it's something you're interested in having then it didn't be a long wait. Rumor was the image for the nexus would be out real soon. So if some good devs still working on the one s wanted to they could get it going in our phones.
I'd like to run Ubuntu on my phone only because I use it on my pc and its so nice and light. Boots fast and is so light weight
Hope we get to taste it real soon!
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I am looking forward to this as well can't wait to run it. I'm a big supporter of the Ubuntu software.
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Ubuntu OS

Has anyone seen or read about the ubuntu os that will be releasing for the nexus? I wonder if it could be ported to the S3 or have some android/ubuntu hybrid?
Either way I think this will shake some things up a bit.
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It is not coming out for the nexus Canonical just used the phone to demo its OS. They are planning to release the source code for devs to play with. They are also planing To sale ubuntu smartphones soon.
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Has anyone seen or read about the ubuntu os that will be releasing for the nexus? I wonder if it could be ported to the S3 or have some android/ubuntu hybrid?
Either way I think this will shake some things up a bit.
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I don't think there will be a need to port the device as it seems like it will able to run on all devices. I wouldn't call Ubuntu for android smartphones an OS until they officially release it as it seems more like something that runs along side android and allows the user to use the docked phone as a PC. Even on the Ubuntu website they state
Newer multi-core processors are up to the job, and Ubuntu is the killer app for that hot hardware. It’s the must-have feature for late-2012 high-end Android phones.
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Even on their website they refer to whatever they are releasing as an app. It appears that Ubuntu for our phones will be more like a multi-tool with the ability to do a TON of stuff, like some sort of super app.
It would be nice to be able to finally compile kernels on the device itself and ditch the need for a 'real' computer altogether.
Well super app or not I think it will be cool to run at least for a few days.
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Definitely looks impressive! Hope to be able to test it out soon!
In interviews they made it clear it is far from ready with a lot of core functionality still missing. Also if you watch the videos of hands-on it is pretty slow and lags.
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In interviews they made it clear it is far from ready with a lot of core functionality still missing. Also if you watch the videos of hands-on it is pretty slow and lags.
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Agreed. It is far from release, and I doubt we will ever see it on an S3. I wouldn't even expect to see an official device until next year.
I agree with OaklandZoo. Ubuntu on a phone sounds great but with the first phones not coming out until next year I don't think it will ever make it to the S3.

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