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[Q] reinstalling touchwiz30

I have a galaxy s 4g, had a week now. Installed a new loader, and app screen switcher, and was having problems with each wanting to run when pressing home. I did set launcher pro as default, but still had issues, so I uninstalled touchwiz launcher, just the launcher. Now my flipclock wont start. I've been told that touchwiz laucher has to be running for it to work. Ok.. phone is rooted, I have the touchwiz30 apk file (says no install when i see it with super user), it of course isnt installing when I try with super user. How do I get touchwiz launcher installed back to my phone?
I did search through posts here for the 4g and couldnt find this question elsewhere, please forgive if it is a replicated question, please include link to that thread!

I'm pretty sure you need to push the TouchWiz apk to /system/app... not install it.
Search the Vibrant forums too. I used to frequent that section and I think I remember people asking about that.
TouchWiz shouldn't be removed; As you have discovered, things rely on it.

ahorriblemess said:
I'm pretty sure you need to push the TouchWiz apk to /system/app... not install it.
Search the Vibrant forums too. I used to frequent that section and I think I remember people asking about that.
TouchWiz shouldn't be removed; As you have discovered, things rely on it.
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Understood. (Android newb here). Ok.. so to get this back over I've had to install a ton of crap.. java sdk development.. then the android adk, I now have complete access to the phone, through terminal emulator on the phone itself, and through adb. All that works fine. however when trying to do the 'push' to the phone, I get permission denied.. I've tried various things.. using terminal to set /system/app to rw from there.. no go, tried opening two dos windows.. starting adb shell, tried remounting /system/app rw, then open using other dos window to do the push, i know the system is mounted rw, regardless of what I do I'm getting permission denied on the push. I *can* and have copied the apk through the shell, from the SD card to /system/app, however it doesn't actually install, just copies the file there... any ideas?
<still a newb but learning fast>

I haven't done it in a while. I haven't rooted my Galaxy S 4G yet (had it for a few days) and I sold my Vibrant several months ago. But I think once the apk is in /system/app, after a reboot it should be working... but I really don't know. Someone else is going to have to chime in here.
As for the "permission denied" errors, if your phone is rooted, the first time you're in the shell via PC and enter "su", the Superuser app should prompt you to give it permissions. From then on, every time you use adb through your PC, it should have super user permissions.
As a last resort, you might need to restore with ODIN if people have figured that out yet.
Honestly, I just got my phone like, two days ago and haven't done anything with it. I want to make sure I'm keeping it first. But the Vibrant wasn't much different so...

headway made, but not working yet
Ok, so here's what I've tried now. I've been using 2 dos windows to run adb with, the first I open a shell with, then set the /system/app directory to rw. I would leave that shell running. I switch over to the second dos window and try to do the push but get the (I'm finding now all too familiar "permission denied" error. So what I did next was to go back to the shell screen, and did a chmod 777 on the app directory. (Imma old SCO unix admin) Success!, I was able to push the file to the phone. I'm assuming that even though I have su with the first window, I don't with the second. So in doing that I allowed anyone to write to the app directory. However, the app still doesn't work. Nothing happens, I rebooted the phone, removed defaults for my current laucncher program, hit home, and the orginal twiz launcher doesnt appear in the list to set default to. God, what am I missing now?? Oh, after done I did reset app to 755. Do I need another file? Do I have the right file? (when browsing files it still says "no install" on it. I'm trying guys.. any help would be appreciated.
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BTW, since you just got your phone, I love mine. first smart phone tho so I cant compare to others, but here's what I've found. Get another battery. The factory one, when pushed hard, dies in 3.5 hours or so. I got an aftermarket battery 3000mh, awesome now.. ran multiple apps, games, wifi connections.. etc.. hammered it 7 straight hours and still had 38% left. Huge diff. Comes with a new back as the 3200 is a lot bigger than the factory, if you can live with that. I don't care about slim.. it's gotta work.. ; )

Market Fix - Froyo Apps + Tegra 2 Apps

In addition to the standard Market Fix to get protected applications working (clearing cache/data), we also need to trick Google to think we have a Tegra 2 device.
We simply need to change the following line in /system/build.prop
ro.product.device=olympus
This tells Google Market we are using a Motorola Atrix 4G and will give us the missing Tegra 2 apps when applying our market fix.
However, since we are mimicking a phone, Tablet specific apps will not show up (NYTimes app for Tablets is an example)
Cheers!
Edit:
It is well known that the Google Web Market is hit and miss on our GTablets. This thread indicates it may take a few days for our tablet's to show up on the web interface. However, what this fix does is allow you to download most of the Froyo + Tegra2 apps via the Market Application within our tablets. There will be applications that will refuse to install through the web market interface (if your tablet can actually show up on the darn thing) because of missing capabilities, but will install just fine via the Market app.
If you want to install apps using a web browser from your Desktop computer, I recommend the use of Appbrain to generate your list of desired apps and then syncing your list on the tablet to install.

Hi,
SUPER!!
This build.prop change, just by itself, on stock 3588, allows me to see a bunch of apps I haven't been able to see before, including Firefox, Flash, Tank Hero, etc. Didn't have to do anything else, no fingerprint changes, etc.
Thanks!
Jim

AWESOME! The only thing I can't find is message ease which is no great loss and I'm not seeing it on the web either -- I think they are pulling it on and off the market. But YES -- Laucher Pro, Saumari, Silver Creek games, Flash 10.2, tv.com, both opera browsers, dolphin HD -- all there. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU!
Even Vlingo shows up which was never found before. Truth is I don't even want it but it was one of my indicators.

wd5gnr said:
AWESOME! The only thing I can't find is message ease which is no great loss and I'm not seeing it on the web either -- I think they are pulling it on and off the market.
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Are you looking for MessagEase?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.exideas.mekb

Whoops! Helps if you spell it right. I always think that should be a faster keyboard but then I give up and go back to BetterKeyboard or the word predicting one which is great until you need to do Linux command lines and such.
Sorry for the confusion. I even found Astro Bluetooth Module another I used to have to switch for. Very cool.

Hmmm... the market.android.com site no longer shows my device since I made the above fix! It only shows my older device. I tried just clearing the market cache and rerunning but no go. I am now running the regular market fix (clear cache in market, stop, clear data in service framework, stop, reboot).
I did install things off the market, but it had to be from the device.
Ok tablet is booted back up.... drum roll....
Nope. And now I am -- for now -- only showing my paid apps off the market, none of the freebies I had previously installed.
UPDATE: I killed the market data and cache along with the service framework data and rebooted. This made no difference to the web site (unless it takes time for it to catch up) but it did -- after installing something else -- restore my existing apps. On the other hand, having the market working on the device beats the web site, but it still means something is "off".

How do we request this be made a sticky?
I know I've tried just about every market tweak for the last 3+ months and this is the only 1 that made a huge diff.
Jim

I haven't tried this fix (heck I don't even know how to apply it, someone mind helping a noob out?) but I had the same problem you did where the web market doesn't show your device. I tried spamming the regular market fix and still no good.
However I logged back into the web store today and it showed my device, weird.
Not sure how to fix it but yesterday I changed my password so I was forced to sign in again. Of course that didn't work at the moment but I guess it worked since I can now see my device now.
Hope this helped.
wd5gnr said:
Hmmm... the market.android.com site no longer shows my device since I made the above fix! It only shows my older device. I tried just clearing the market cache and rerunning but no go. I am now running the regular market fix (clear cache in market, stop, clear data in service framework, stop, reboot).
I did install things off the market, but it had to be from the device.
Ok tablet is booted back up.... drum roll....
Nope. And now I am -- for now -- only showing my paid apps off the market, none of the freebies I had previously installed.
UPDATE: I killed the market data and cache along with the service framework data and rebooted. This made no difference to the web site (unless it takes time for it to catch up) but it did -- after installing something else -- restore my existing apps. On the other hand, having the market working on the device beats the web site, but it still means something is "off".
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Yeah I tried logging out of the web site and back in. I've tried forcing a google account sync. And I've tried making sure Talk is running (apparently the website uses talk to send things to your device.).
Just for fun I put my ro.product.name/device/board back to Vega and with no reboot or anything the web site immediately found the device.... curious....
Well now that I'm back on the web site, my market is back to how it was even after I put the olympus line in. Getting too late. Will look at it tomorrow :-(

Hachi2Go said:
I haven't tried this fix (heck I don't even know how to apply it, someone mind helping a noob out?) but I had the same problem you did where the web market doesn't show your device. I tried spamming the regular market fix and still no good.
However I logged back into the web store today and it showed my device, weird.
Not sure how to fix it but yesterday I changed my password so I was forced to sign in again. Of course that didn't work at the moment but I guess it worked since I can now see my device now.
Hope this helped.
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I did the change by:
- get temp root via z4root
- make /system R/W via root explorer
- start a terminal
- cd /system
- Edit build.prop: busybox vi build.prop
- did regular market fix
- reboot
Jim

wd5gnr said:
Hmmm... the market.android.com site no longer shows my device since I made the above fix! It only shows my older device. I tried just clearing the market cache and rerunning but no go. I am now running the regular market fix (clear cache in market, stop, clear data in service framework, stop, reboot).
I did install things off the market, but it had to be from the device.
Ok tablet is booted back up.... drum roll....
Nope. And now I am -- for now -- only showing my paid apps off the market, none of the freebies I had previously installed.
UPDATE: I killed the market data and cache along with the service framework data and rebooted. This made no difference to the web site (unless it takes time for it to catch up) but it did -- after installing something else -- restore my existing apps. On the other hand, having the market working on the device beats the web site, but it still means something is "off".
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You're right that having market work on the device beats the website! The web market issues may be a whole separate battle.
Jim

jimcpl said:
I did the change by:
- get temp root via z4root
- make /system R/W via root explorer
- start a terminal
- cd /system
- Edit build.prop: busybox vi build.prop
- did regular market fix
- reboot
Jim
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I'm quite new to the Android OS so I'm not really sure how to do this.
I installed z4root and got temp root. I'm not sure if I needed it as I read somewhere that Vegan 5.1.1 (which I am using) gives me root already.
But I installed it and ran it anyways.
I'm stuck on giving my /system read and write permissions. Is this 'root explorer' app needed? Or can I use my 'iFileExplorer' app to do so, if so how? (It came with the vegan ROM)

Not sure if you meant to type ifileManger, but it will not get you write permissions. Root explorer will allow you to write. It looks as though you may have to
open a terminal up as discussed above, to change the build prop.
Hachi2Go said:
I'm quite new to the Android OS so I'm not really sure how to do this.
I installed z4root and got temp root. I'm not sure if I needed it as I read somewhere that Vegan 5.1.1 (which I am using) gives me root already.
But I installed it and ran it anyways.
I'm stuck on giving my /system read and write permissions. Is this 'root explorer' app needed? Or can I use my 'iFileExplorer' app to do so, if so how? (It came with the vegan ROM)
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Hachi2Go said:
I'm quite new to the Android OS so I'm not really sure how to do this.
I installed z4root and got temp root. I'm not sure if I needed it as I read somewhere that Vegan 5.1.1 (which I am using) gives me root already.
But I installed it and ran it anyways.
I'm stuck on giving my /system read and write permissions. Is this 'root explorer' app needed? Or can I use my 'iFileExplorer' app to do so, if so how? (It came with the vegan ROM)
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Hi,
If you don't have root explorer, there's a free app on market called something like "system mount r/w" that is free that will mount /system as r/w for you. Or, I think that you can do it using a terminal and a mount command (something like mount -remount....).
Normal file explorers won't do the remount.
Jim

mount -o remount,rw /system /system
Watch out for the spaces and you need to be root so do an su command first.
When done, repear the mount command but use ro instead of rw. You can do this with a terminal program or the adb.

Root Explorer is what, $3.99? Worth it for the time savings. I bought the Ti Pro too. $300+ on a tablet...spend $9 on some software to make life easier.

iam a noob. i have stock rom 3588. how do i get market working?

By the light of morning I got back to a full market! But it again broke the web site connection. Is anyone seeing this behavior? Or is it just me?
For the new guys.
1) This appears like it MAY break your connection with the market web site [Update: Wait a few hours and it appears to catch up with you]. It may have other unknown effects. If you are not comfortable with making mods you might wait until more people have reported success or failure with this. For the record I did NOT find this fix (thanks Isira -- see OP of this thread). Just writing up my take on what you need to do. This applies to VEGAn 5.1.1 with supplement. It has been noted that with a stock rom you may need to put "busybox" before commands like cp (which you don't need to use if you have Root Explorer, by the way). If you get this to work (or not) on a different ROM, report it in this thread.
2) That being said, you need a file explorer that will look at / and edit text files, an su utility (comes with your root kit; as far as I know all the custom ROMs are pre rooted) and a command shell/terminal. Or you could spring a few bucks and get Root Explorer which is well worth it and does all of these things. Others have suggested Absolute Root tools which I do not know about. You could also use adb for all of it (which is what I did) but if you know how to do that, you probably don't need me to tell you what to do. We will be changing your build.prop file in the /system directory.
IF YOU ARE NOT USING ROOT EXPLORER GO DOWN TO STEP 3B. IF YOU ARE, GO TO STEP 3A.
3A) Open root explorer. Find /system and press the "Mount R/W" button.
4A) Long press on build.prop and select Copy. Then navigate somewhere like /mnt/sdcard and press the paste button at the bottom of the screen. This is your backup. Please backup.
5A) Go back to /system
6A) Long press on build.prop again. The menu is scrollable. You want Open in Text Editor.
7A) Find the line that says ro.product.device=XXXX (where XXXX is probably Vega). Make it read:
ro.product.device=olympus
Don't change anything else.
8A) Save the file by pressing the menu key and selecting Save & Exit.
9A) Scroll to the top of the /system directory and press the Mount R/O button.
10A) Reboot your tablet. Wait for things to settle down on restart. Open Market. Look for Saumari 2. Look for LauncherPro, Opera Mobile, etc. It will all be there.
If you don't have root explorer:
3B) Open the terminal. At the prompt, enter (spaces and lower case matter):
su
mount -o remount,rw /system /system
HINT: If you think you will do this a lot grab Script Manager off of the market. You can put the mount line in a script, tell it to execute as root (which is the same as su) and then you can run the script when you want to make changes.
4B) Start your file manager and find the /system directory. Your file manager probably starts in /sdcard or /mnt/sdcard. You'll need to go "up" a directory or two to root and then back down. Either way, when you find it, make a backup copy of build.prop somewhere you can write to. Seriously. Do not skip this step. Make the copy.
5B) Edit build.prop. You are looking for a line that sys ro.product.device=XXXX (probably Vega; I don't know about other ROMs and if this works for other ROMs but for VEGAn 5.1.1 its Vega). Carefully replace whatever you have as XXXX to olympus. So the line should read:
ro.product.device=olympus
Note: Some of us had other changes to build.prop. Not clear if these had any effect or not.
6B) Save your changes. If your file explorer is not root, you probably need to save the file to where you can write (your sdcard for example) and the copy from a terminal, such as:
su
cp /mnt/sdcard/new-buildprop.txt /system/build.prop
or
su
busybox cp /mnt/sdcard/new-buildprop.txt /system/build.prop
7B) Open your terminal and enter:
su
mount -o remount,ro /system /system
Remember spaces and case count! Also if you are in the same terminal window as before you don't have to keep entering su since you stay root.
NOTES FOR BOTH SETS OF INSTRUCTIONS
I did the original market fix after saving the file, but some people say it is not necessary. But at least a few people have said they don't see much or anything in market until the redo the fix (the one where you delete the market cache and the google services framework data and reboot).
Things that appear to work:
1) Installing free programs
2) Updating existing programs
3) Amazon market web site oddly enough
4) The official market Web site AFTER WAITING SEVERAL HOURS
5) Buying an app off the build in application
Some of us had other changes to build.prop but I don't think any of them were significant. If you have trouble you might apply it (shouldn't hurt). Also, if your "my apps" only shows your paid apps (or nothing if you have no paid apps), try downloading anything off the market and that will usually restore it. There is also an update local cache key that might do the trick, but loading some freebie off the market is easier. Also check to make sure gtalk is logged in. You can try forcing a resync on your Google accounts (in the main menu under Accounts).
Hope that helps someone. Its early so I probably made mistakes and will edit any that are found.

wd5gnr,
I don't know how "unusual" it is, but on my Gtab, where I had 3452 for awhile, then now 3588, I've always noted that I don't have a "cp" command, so I have to use "busybox cp".
Just FYI, in case anyone encounters this when they try your instructions.
Jim

wd5gnr said:
By the light of morning I got back to a full market! But it again broke the web site connection. Is anyone seeing this behavior? Or is it just me?
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Based on this thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941205 ), it seems it may take a few days for the tablets to register on the market.
I have 3 tablets and I'm trying to change the identifier for each tablet through the ro.product.model and seeing if each of the tablets will show up on the market. So far, only one tablet is showing on the web market, but it's still using the old ro.product.model identifier (GTablet-TnT-Lite).
However, the web market is still pretty wonky. Certain apps may refuse to install through the web market because of missing capabilities on our tablets, but will install just fine through the market app.

App removal - bloat (Depreciated thread - See OP for update links)

UPDATE/EDIT: September 12th, 2011 -
I am depreciating this thread and will no longer check on or support it. For more information on this topic:
See MT4GS Stock App Encyclopedia for information about the apps themselves.
See Bloater to make stock app removal easier then you could ever imagine it being.
UPDATE/EDIT: August 21st, 2011 -
Posts 19 through 25 are a summary and how-to of what we have learned about removing apps from the stock rooted rom so far. Skip ahead if you want, otherwise the thread is a good read all the way through.
Now that we have a working S-OFF/Root procedure, a lot of us want to kill some of the stuff that came pre-loaded on our phones.
Root is required, and performing a backup through Clockworkmod is a necessity as well. Both backup and restore actions have been tested and working in CWM 4.0.0.9.
I am not responsible for what happens to your device after removing these files, so make sure you make a CWM backup BEFORE you start mucking around with this.
Some other threads that have been dealing with this for this device are Here, Here and Here. I would like to thank the people who have contributed, and continue to do so in those threads. I made this one in "themes and apps", as I think that people in the future coming in will look here first and this may cut down future confusion and questions.
There are a couple of ways you can accomplish this, but i'll start with the (almost) longest way. See the bottom of the post for other options.
We will be using a file manager to accomplish this task, "File Expert", free from the Google market. (I recommend "Root Explorer", a paid app, but if you've come this far you should get it at some point).
You will need to hit options, choose more, then Mount. Select "Mount as Read Write" to be able to delete the files/folders.
Listed below are the apps and what you have to delete to remove them.
Archived to code tags to make the post smaller. The summaries I wrote out are full page further in the thread, so it's easier to see the whole process.
Themes:
Code:
Aubergine
/system/app/aubergine.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.aubergine
Brooklyn
/system/app/Brooklyn.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.brooklyn
Jazz
/system/app/Jazz.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.jazz
Retro
/system/app/Retro.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.retro
Spring
/system/app/Spring.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.spring
Live Wallpapers
/system/app/LiveWallpapers.apk
/system/app/LiveWallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.android.wallpaper
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
/system/app/MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk
/system/app/MagicSmokeWallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.android.magicsmoke
Music Visualization Wallpapers
/system/app/VisualizationWallpapers.apk
/system/app/VisualizationWallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.android.musicvis
Sense Live Wallpaper
/system/app/Mode10Wallpapers.apk
/system/app/Mode10Wallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.wallpaper
Streak Live Wallpaper
/system/app/HTCLivewallpaperStreak.apk
/system/app/HTCLivewallpaperStreak.odex
/data/data/com.htc.livewallpaper.streak
Weather Live Wallpaper
/system/app/HtcWeatherWallpaper.apk
/system/app/HtcWeatherWallpaper.odex
/data/data/com.htc.WeatherWallpaper
Widgets:
Code:
HTC Widget Download Manager
/system/app/WidgetDownloadManager.apk
/system/app/WidgetDownloadManager.odex
/data/data/com.htc.wdm
Bookmark Widget
/system/app/htcbookmarkwidget3d.apk
/system/app/htcbookmarkwidget3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.fusion.htcbookmarkwidget
Calculator Widget
/system/app/htcCalculatorWidget.apk
/system/app/htcCalculatorWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.fusion.calculator
Calendar Widget
/system/app/htccalendarwidgets3d.apk
/system/app/htccalendarwidgets3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htccalendarwidgets
Clock Widget
/system/app/htcclock3dwidget.apk
/system/app/htcclock3dwidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.clock3dwidget
FM Radio Widget
/system/app/com.htc.FMRadioWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.FMRadioWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.FMRadioWidget
Friend Stream Widget
/system/app/com.htc.FriendStream3DWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.FriendStream3DWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.FriendStream3DWidget
Mail Widget
/system/app/htcmailwidgets3d.apk
/system/app/htcmailwidgets3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htcmailwidgets
Messages Widget
/system/app/com.htc.htcmsgwidgets3d.apk
/system/app/com.htc.htcmsgwidgets3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htcmsgwidgets3d
Music Widget
/system/app/com.htc.MusicWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.MusicWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.MusicWidget3D
Photo Widget
/system/app/HtcPhotoWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcPhotoWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.photowidget3d
Setup Widget
/system/app/HtcSetupWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcSetupWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.setupwidget
Sync Widget
/system/app/com.htc.Sync3Dwidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.Sync3Dwidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.Sync3DWidget
Tips for Home Widget
/system/app/HtcTipWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcTipWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.rosiewidgets.tip
Trends Widget
/system/app/com.htc.TrendsWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.TrendsWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.Trends3DWidget
Twitter Widget
/system/app/com.htc.Twitter3DWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.Twitter3DWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.Twitter3DWidget
Weather Widget
/system/app/HtcWeather3DWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcWeather3DWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.widget3d.weather
System-Type Apps:
Code:
App Sharing
/system/app/appsharing.apk
/system/app/appsharing.odex
/data/data/com.htc.appsharing
AppPack
/system/app/MallLite-4.0.92.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.appack
Backup
/system/app/MobileBackup.apk
/data/data/com.voxmobile.sync.mobilebackup2
Calculator
/system/app/calculator.apk
/system/app/calculator.odex
/data/data/com.android.calculator2
Home Screen Tips
/system/app/Protips.apk
/system/app/Protips.odex
/data/data/com.android.protips
Setup
/system/app/HTCSetupWizard.apk
/system/app/HTCSetupWizard.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.htcsetupwizard
Swype
/system/app/Swype.apk
/data/data/com.swype.android.inputmethod
T Mobile Device Carbon
/system/app/TmobileAndroidDeviceCarbon-c42-n123.apk
/data/data/com.zipwhip.devicecarbon.tmobile
T Mobile TV
/system/app/com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
/data/data/com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
Video Chat
/system/app/qik.apk
/data/data/com.qiktmobile.android
Apps:
Code:
Adobe Reader
/system/app/AdobeReader.apk
/data/data/com.adobe.reader
Bejeweled 2
/system/app/Bejeweled2_trust5.apk
/data/data/com.eamobile.bejeweled2_small
DT-Sync
/system/app/desktopPointer-signed-v6.apk
/data/data/com.doubletwist.desktopPointer
Facebook
/system/app/HtcFacebook.apk
/system/app/HtcFacebook.odex
/data/data/com.htc.socialnetwork.facebook
Flickr
/system/app/flickr.apk
/system/app/flickr.odex
/data/data/com.htc.socialnetwork.flickr
Friend Stream
/system/app/FriendStream.apk
/system/app/FriendStream.odex
/data/data/com.htc.friendstream
Media Room
/system/app/MediaRoom.apk
/system/app/MediaRoom.odex
/data/data/com.htc.MediaLauncher
Netflix
/system/app/netflix-17-release-android-marketplace-upgrade.apk
/data/data/com.netflix.mediaclient
Peep
/system/app/HtcTwitter.apk
/system/app/HtcTwitter.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htctwitter
PhotoGrid
/system/app/HtcPhotoGridWidget3D.apk
/system/app/HtcPhotoGridWidget3D.odex
/data/data/com.htc.rosiewidgets.photogridwidget3d
Polaris Office
/system/app/PolarisOffice.apk
/data/data/com.infraware.docmaster
Slacker Radio
/system/app/slackerradio.apk
/data/data/com.slacker.radio
Telenav GPS Navigator
/system/app/TMOUS_Navigator.apk
/data/data/com.telenav.app.android.telenav
Zinio Reader
/system/app/ZinioReader.v2.03.3312.Regular.apk
/data/data/com.zinio.mobile.android
ZS Provider
/system/app/ZinioSettingsProvider.v2.03.3198.TMobile.Smartphone.apk
/data/data/com.zinio.android.settings
I have removed all of these apps from my system, and it still runs fine. No problems.
You may get a crash report to send to HTC while removing some of these things (I denied it), but you can ignore it. You will get them it when removing themes for sure.
I don't see why using an app to remove these (like Absolute System) would be an issue - just make sure to go back and manually delete the .odex files, as such apps probably won't get them.
And, of course, you could always use a terminal emulator to (rm) remove the files/folders manually.
Also, for the more adventurous: (but it wasn't a problem)
Internet
/system/app/Browser.apk
/system/app/Browser.odex
/data/data/com.android.browser
(I replaced with "Opera Mobile" by Opera Software ASA - Free app)
Mail
/system/app/mail.apk
/system/app/mail.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.mail
(Removing mail does not prevent GMAIL from working correctly)
Music
/system/app/HtcMusic.apk
/system/app/HtcMusic.odex
/data/data/com.htc.music
Music Enhancer
/system/app/HtcMusicEnhancer.apk
/system/app/HtcMusicEnhancer.odex
/data/data/com.htc.musicenhancer
(I replaced with "Android Music" by JRTStudio - Free app)
If anyone else finds things they can safely remove, please post it for others to play with.
Have fun!

deleted most of those and got
'uids on the system are inconsistent' every time on boot
careful...

Can you list which ones you removed to cause that?
Also, were you using a theme that you deleted?
CWM backup is vital when starting to mess with this - I haven't had to restore due to system issues.
I'd love to try to duplicate your problem on my phone to find a fix. Thanks!

I prefer not to actually delete apps in case I ever want to unroot (though this probably isn't that likely but still) and I understand that by doing so, those apps need to be present. if any of you are interested, there is a free app on the market that I discovered. just search "antek" in the market and it freezes whatever bloatware you have so that it no longer runs in the background and should you want to recover it, all you do is just "defrost" it and it runs exactly as it did before. I've saved loads of battery by using this.

I'm using a custom theme that wasn't deleted. I understand that I could get the cyanogenmod fix_permissions script to fix this, but haven't located it yet.
I stuck to your list before this happened except for swype and a few others.
Wasn't looking for help with the issue, just wanted to let you know it happened. Ofcourse I made a backup before and after.

fix_permissions didn't solve. Gonna restore and try again. Btw I didn't freeze first, I just deleted. Doubt that's the reason though.

Protricity said:
fix_permissions didn't solve. Gonna restore and try again. Btw I didn't freeze first, I just deleted. Doubt that's the reason though.
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I'm sorry to hear that it's not working out so great for you. Glad to hear you did a backup first though.
It might be good to note, and I should have said it at the beginning, I did a fresh factory reset on my phone just before the S-OFF/Root procedure, and hadn't used any of the things I got rid of.
They were basically just deleted right off the phone before it got used.
Keep us updated on how it's going, and as info comes in i'll add what I can to help. Knowing what apps you got rid of specifically could narrow it down some, and what ones you used first might help as well.
Of course, restoring a backup eliminates the problem, and you may or may not be able to reproduce after - please let us know either way, and thanks for the input!
For our next trick, we're gonna dump HTC Sense.
Blue6IX said:
okay - sorry to post after myself but I got rid of kidzone.
First, I restored a CWM backup I made right after root/busybox installation.
So, my phone state is fresh S-OFF/Root with SU & busybox installed.
It may be important to note that I did a factory reset to my phone just before S-OFF/Root & had a freshly formatted MicroSD card.
I then installed ADW Launcher from the Market, and hit my "home" key. Selected "Use Default" and chose ADW Launcher.
Now my phone defaults to ADW as it's launcher.
I then installed "Absolute System" from the Market, and used it to remove "HTC Sense"
Closed out Absolute System, then scrolled between all 5 ADW desktop screens, powered down the phone, then powered up again. (*NOTE fastboot = off)
Booted fine, was able to ditch sense without issue, and KIDZONE IS GONE!
As always, make sure to do a fresh system backup before messing with anything like this, but Kidzone is linked to sense, and replacing sense with another launcher will remove it.
HTC Sense was the only app removed from the phone, and I haven't checked everything to make sure it works yet, but no HTC crash report to send, and no force close issues. (yet - to be determined)
I've been itching to ditch sense since I got the phone, and this was my first quick test at it. Works good so far.
Edit to add:
Checked the "personalize" option at the top of the "settings" list. This just brings you back to the main desktop, doesn't throw an error.
I knew this one thing would be messed up somehow after ditching sense, but the fact that it doesn't make a problem and just closes the menu is fine by me.
I'll spend the rest of the day testing out my phone without sense to see how it runs. I'll post back how it went tomorrow.
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Quoted myself from the kidzone thread, I want to put the info for slimming down my phones apps here.
I'm going to see how the phone runs on just the free version of ADW for a day, then see about coming up with a procedure to remove apps and keep it all stable in the process.
Happy modding!

Protricity said:
fix_permissions didn't solve. Gonna restore and try again. Btw I didn't freeze first, I just deleted. Doubt that's the reason though.
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Also, a thought. Boot to CWM and clear the dalvik cache.
I looked up some info on this since rooting the other day, and after uninstalling apps it's good to do to clear out the old app data. Something to consider - it might solve your problem.

Blue6IX said:
For our next trick, we're gonna dump HTC Sense
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Does the camera app still work after you deleted sense? I wouldn't want to lose that..

I froze "T-mobile Name ID" and everything seems to be working fine.
You might also want to mention that you can temp-root your device, then freeze these apps, and they will stay frozen after reboot. Just, for anyone that doesn't want to perma-root their device right now (like me). It's not very stable to perma-root your device right now. Just read that if your MT4GS dies and your perma-rooted, you will either have to buy a new battery or find a way to charge your battery without your phone... some issue with the HBoot... So till thats fixed, and till i'm sure things are stable. I'll stick with my Temp-Root

nldroid said:
Does the camera app still work after you deleted sense? I wouldn't want to lose that..
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The camera app still works, but I haven't used all the features.
I would assume this still does work completely, though, because this is only getting rid of the sense launcher, and not the underlying frameworks that power it. (which I hear the camera is dependent upon.)
A solid day of running ADW instead of sense as my launcher has been fine, i'll go play with the camera for a little while and get back to you with a more complete answer to this.

dansl said:
I froze "T-mobile Name ID" and everything seems to be working fine.
You might also want to mention that you can temp-root your device, then freeze these apps, and they will stay frozen after reboot. Just, for anyone that doesn't want to perma-root their device right now (like me). It's not very stable to perma-root your device right now. Just read that if your MT4GS dies and your perma-rooted, you will either have to buy a new battery or find a way to charge your battery without your phone... some issue with the HBoot... So till thats fixed, and till i'm sure things are stable. I'll stick with my Temp-Root
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This had to do with a charging issue using Clockworkmod 4.0.0.8 which is fixed with Clockworkmod 4.0.0.9.
I have personally run my battery to completely dead using CWM 4.0.0.9 and it charged up and booted fine.
Good to know that freezing apps stays after reboot on temp-root, that's an awesome find!

Also, just found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150805
Post by rmk40, talking about freezing bloatware apps on the HTC Sensation. There are some apps ppl have frozen on there that are also on the MT4GS. I'm going to look through it now and will check back later.

The Notes app from:
/system/app/androidnotes.apk
Is that it, or is there more in the /data folder?
I think it may be /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes
and /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes/databases/notes
But I don't want to delete it without being fully sure, can someone verify this for me?

nldroid said:
Does the camera app still work after you deleted sense? I wouldn't want to lose that..
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Yep, the camera app works completely. I tested all the modes, and used all the different manual settings in the last option. Nothing was broken, it was all fine.
Removing just the sense launcher and replacing it with something else has no impact on the camera, and I would imagine anything else that requires sense frameworks. We should test anything before making that blanket statement, though, but consider camera.apk to be tested and working without the sense launcher.
dansl said:
Also, just found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150805
Post by rmk40, talking about freezing bloatware apps on the HTC Sensation. There are some apps ppl have frozen on there that are also on the MT4GS. I'm going to look through it now and will check back later.
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That's awesome - while i'm busy re-inventing the wheel, way to pick up where someone else left off. I glanced through there quickly, but i'm kinda having fun figuring this out. I definitely look forward to hearing what you've learned browsing through, and i'll get there at some point.
Thanks clicked on that helpful post!
Sinfamy said:
The Notes app from:
/system/app/androidnotes.apk
Is that it, or is there more in the /data folder?
I think it may be /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes
and /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes/databases/notes
But I don't want to delete it without being fully sure, can someone verify this for me?
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Yep, you were right on. Delete the .apk in bold, then go delete the folder in bold. Once you delete the folder in /data/data, then your second line about the database in notes becomes moot, since it will have already been deleted.

Updated my list of stuff too (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16683780).
One thing i found that I couldn't quite figure out what is was for, is the Com.Redbend.SWM-C app. I've read that it might be used for tracking/analytics or DRM content... i dont know, but I froze it, and everything seems to be working fine still! I read someone had issues with Youtube, but youtube has been working fine for me.

thank you for this thread and thanks to dansl too. I was able to remove sense and a lot of the htc bloatware, making the phone a lot better.
I don't know what doubleshotandroidzipgroup was that was running in the background, but i froze it and it seems fine...

So it seems like this thread has been helping people, in conjunction with the other threads on the different aspects of this subject. I don't deal with freezing apps, it always seemed cleaner to me to just get rid of them.
I know in some cases that's not possible, maybe for us maybe not. I've sure learned a lot from this project, and from what people have discovered by freezing apps.
I want to take a moment to thank everyone who has contributed towards what we've learned here.
I took the time to really work out what has to be done to remove the various things we discovered, and the next few posts reflect the contributions everyone has made to this project.
Also, i'm hoping that this road map we are making will cut the time down it takes for developers to introduce roms for our device. Having the locations, and user test data of what you can dump should take some of their headache away. This is one of the motivations behind my trying to lay this all out like this, making it easier not only for us to use now, but for developers to refer to later.
Enjoy, i've had fun with it so far!

There was an initial surge of testing what could or could not be removed from the phone right after we got root, which has mostly passed now. Most of the obvious "I can get rid of this" stuff has been figured out, and the rest of the things we can safely get rid of will take a closer look and involve a bit of head scratching to figure out.
Meantime, I felt like it was a good idea to summarize what we know a bit, and come up with a good procedure for removing stuff that was both simple and stable. You could (and I, as well as others, have) delete(d) this stuff all at once without issue, but i'm more comfortable with a more cautious approach - and I know others will be too.
To that end, i've taken the time to test this method a few times, re-engineer it, tweak things, change the order up a bit, and finally lay it out here. We all pretty much want to get the most out of our phones, and for almost all of us here the "extras" pre-installed on our phones get in the way of this.
This'll be fun, and pretty painless - so - ready to remove some bloat?
Setup 1: We're going to go backwards in time a few steps. The ideal situation here is:
00 - Backup all phone data to somewhere off the phone itself.
01 - Factory reset phone, power down.
02 - Remove microsd card, format in computer.
03 - re-insert microsd card in phone, power on.
04 - Set up your Gmail account, enable the Market on your phone.
05 - S-OFF (if necessary), installing CWM 4.0.0.9 and Rooting your phone.
06 - Installing Busybox and Root Checker, verifying that both root and busybox are obtained/available on your phone.
07 - Uninstalling Busybox installer, checking Busybox installation in Root Checker again, then uninstalling Root Checker.
08 - Power down your phone, and boot into recovery mode.
09 - Make a CWM backup of your system in recovery, then rebooting your phone.
10 - (optional, but recommended) Making a copy of the CWM backup to another place, like your computer.
If you did/do it this way then you can always restore to a clean CWM backup from right after you got Root & Busybox on your phone, in the cleanest ready state it can be.
Otherwise, do a CWM backup of your system now, before following the instructions laid out below to be able to restore your phone if something goes wrong.
I'll try and help anyone who needs it if something doesn't go right, but please understand you do this at your own risk and backups are your best friend!
Setup 2: Tools.
01 - Install Root Explorer.
+ Other file managers may work with varying degrees of success, and there are some free alternatives, but nothing that will do the job like Root Explorer. I highly recommend this app, and if you're going to be doing this kind of stuff on your phone you should probably pick it up. You at least need a file manager capable of read/write access to your system folders, and that can copy and delete.
02 - Install Absolute System Root Tools.
+ Again, there are probably free alternatives out there, but this program is pretty awesome and I recommend it. You should have an app that lets you uninstall system apps, and lets you clear their data before uninstalling. One thing to note, is that it won't delete the .odex files of installed apps, so you'll have to go back and get them manually with Root Explorer.
03 - Before performing any steps listed below, you should make backups of all the files you will delete. I list the locations of everything so you can navigate to it with Root Explorer and copy the files somewhere else, like your sdcard. I would also go so far as to say you should make a CWM backup before attempting each of the steps below, but i'm overly cautious when it comes to backups - that's up to you.
(You could end up making changes in files you aren't working in, without realizing it. A Nandroid backup is the only way to ensure you can restore those files if that should happen)
** - Use Absolute System to uninstall .apk files listed below, and it will also get the /data/data location as well. You will have to go back and get the .odex files manually. If you choose not to use an app to uninstall the .apk files listed below, I wrote out their full path location so you can use Root Explorer to delete them manually.
** - Changes made to /system/etc are mirrored in /etc as soon as you make them. All changes made in /system/ are mirrored in the main directory in any corresponding folders or files in real-time as you make them.
** - I recommend removing all widgets and shortcuts/folders or any other items that may be on your desktop before starting this process. You can always put back anything that survives later when you are done.
** - It might be a good idea to turn off GPS, Mobile Networks, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi before proceeding. Optional, but recommended.
Feel free to skip any apps you want to keep along the way, and you don't necessarily have to go in order, but it'll be cleaner that way. Part of the organization behind it is to make it easy for the user to remember what they are doing, and break it down into smaller blocks so you'll lose less progress if something goes wrong.
Now that we're past all that, lets get down to business.

Part 1: Stock themes and wallpapers.
00 - Make sure your phone is set to the "System" theme before continuing (default theme). Then take a picture with your camera, or get a picture you like on your phone. Set this as your background wallpaper.
01 - Using Absolute System, uninstall the stock themes:
-com.tmobile.theme.Aubergine
+ /system/app/Aubergine.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Aubergine
-com.tmobile.theme.Brooklyn
+ /system/app/Brooklyn.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Brooklyn
-com.tmobile.theme.Jazz
+ /system/app/Jazz.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Jazz
-com.tmobile.theme.Retro
+ /system/app/Retro.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Retro
-com.tmobile.theme.Spring
+ /system/app/Spring.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Spring
02 - Using Absolute System, uninstall the stock live wallpapers:
-com.android.wallpaper (Android Live Wallpapers)
+ /system/app/LiveWallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.android.wallpaper
-com.htc.android.wallpaper (HTC Sense Live Wallpaper)
+ /system/app/Mode10Wallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.htc.android.wallpaper
-com.htc.android.image_wallpaper (HTC Slide Show Wallpaper)
+ /system/app/HtcImageWallpaper.apk
+ /data/data/com.htc.android.image_wallpaper
-com.android.magicsmoke (Magic Smoke Wallpapers)
+ /system/app/MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.android.magicsmoke
-com.android.musicvis (Music Visualization Wallpapers)
+ /system/app/VisualizationWallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.android.musicvis
-com.htc.livewallpaper.streak (Streak Live Wallpaper)
+ /system/app/HTCLivewallpaperStreak.apk
+ /data/data/com.htc.livewallpaper.streak
Okay, we are done with Absolute System for the moment.
Fire up Root Explorer, and go to:
03 - /system/app/ (delete the files: )
-HtcImageWallpaper.odex
-HTCLivewallpaperStreak.odex
-LiveWallpapers.odex
-MagicSmokeWallpapers.odex
-Mode10Wallpapers.odex
-VisualizationWallpapers.odex
Still in Root Explorer, now go to:
04 - /system/customize/resource/ (delete the files: )
-htc_wallpaper_01.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_01_lockscreen.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_02.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_03.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_04.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_05.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_06.jpg
-tmo_wallpaper_01.png
-tmo_wallpaper_02.png
-tmo_wallpaper_03.png
-tmo_wallpaper_04.png
-tmo_wallpaper_05.png
-tmo_wallpaper_06.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_01.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_02.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_03.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_04.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_05.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_06.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_01.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_01_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_02.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_02_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_03.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_03_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_04.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_04_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_05.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_05_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_06.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_06_land.png
-wallpaper.jpg
-wallpaper.png
Still in Root Explorer, last place to go is:
05 - /system/etc/ (delete folder: )
-slideshow
(These are all the sample images for the HTC slideshow live wallpaper.)
06 - Exit Root Explorer, Reboot your phone to recovery. In CWM choose advanced and then "Wipe Dalvik Cache". Hit back and then "Wipe Cache Partition". Reboot your phone. (It will take a little while longer to boot since you wiped your cache, but not much)
After booting back up and making sure everything still works:
07 - Reboot into recovery, make a CWM Nandroid backup of your system. Make sure to back this up somewhere off the phone too.
Congratulations! You now have a recovery image of your phone with all of the stock themes and wallpapers removed.

[Q] Modify Stock Lockscreen

Hey all, been a reader for a couple months now, first time poster.
I am running Supercharged 5.2 on the Atrix 2 (MB865)
Replacing the lockscreen with an App isn't an option for me if I want to keep my work email on the phone.
I'm wondering if there is any way to make modifications to the lockscreen? I love the changes that were made for Supercharged, but I would like to take it a step further, but don't know where to start.
If possible, I would love to be able to convince the phone that something such as widgetlocker was the built-in lockscreen.
Anyone have any ideas? Or a starting direction?

This is probably not what you are looking for but i use widgetlocker and it works good for me if i give it superuser permissions.
Sent from my MB865 using xda premium

galamdring said:
Hey all, been a reader for a couple months now, first time poster.
I am running Supercharged 5.2 on the Atrix 2 (MB865)
Replacing the lockscreen with an App isn't an option for me if I want to keep my work email on the phone.
I'm wondering if there is any way to make modifications to the lockscreen? I love the changes that were made for Supercharged, but I would like to take it a step further, but don't know where to start.
If possible, I would love to be able to convince the phone that something such as widgetlocker was the built-in lockscreen.
Anyone have any ideas? Or a starting direction?
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You going to have to break apart the framework-res.apk and add a lock screen image (i think the zz_moto_lockscreen_sd_door.png file is missing from SCV5), possibly edit the related xml file, then put it back together and push it to your phone with adb... i've never done it but i'm sure with some proper searching and researching, you could pull it off..
the lockscreen image should be in /system/framework/framework-res.apk --> open the apk --> framework-res.apk/res/drawable-hdpi
Attached is the stock lock screen, if you can manage to slip it in there...without bricking your phone

Did you figure it out yet? I managed to swap the lockscreen on the atrixblaze rom to the stock lockscreen (just to see if i could).. and it was pretty simple.
You need an apk tool like APK Manager or the MultiTool (i did it with APK Manager, since i read that there may be some issues with the MultiTool), then copy to your computer, and using APK Manager "extract zip" the framework-res.apk, swap out the lockscreen image file, and re-zip the apk with the APK Manager (it gets more complicated if you're editing xml files, but for images only this works well). Copy the modified framework-res.apk to your sd card, then using root explorer, copy it to your /system folder (you need to copy it here before moving it to the framework folder so you can change the permissions). Change the permissions to chmod 644 (like shown in the 3rd attached pic), then MOVE (do not copy) to the framework folder. It will ask you if you want to overwrite - say yes. Reboot. And done.
But, I didn't see a lockscreen file in SCV5, so this may not work for you at all. You could try to add it and hope that everything that references that image is still intact in the xml files..
NOTE: Please install the CWM on Boot before you try swapping your framework-res.apk, it can save you a lot of trouble if something goes wrong

Thank you for the suggestions. I actually haven't been able to get the CWM on boot to work with SCV5.2.
I ended up finding a different way around. When it comes right down to it I hate the stock lockscreen. If I wanted to be stuck with a simple slide to unlock, I would just go back to the iPhone.
Was frustrating the hell out of me that my work email could place that kind of restriction on me.
So I hunted, and found an email app that used the webDav interface instead of directly accessing the Exchange Server, thus no device admin.
Maildroid was what worked for me with Exchange 2010.
Then to get the calendar on my phone, I used the Google Calendar Sync on my work computer, so no more need for device admin for any of it.
Got WidgetLocker and loving it.

galamdring said:
Thank you for the suggestions. I actually haven't been able to get the CWM on boot to work with SCV5.2.
I ended up finding a different way around. When it comes right down to it I hate the stock lockscreen. If I wanted to be stuck with a simple slide to unlock, I would just go back to the iPhone.
Was frustrating the hell out of me that my work email could place that kind of restriction on me.
So I hunted, and found an email app that used the webDav interface instead of directly accessing the Exchange Server, thus no device admin.
Maildroid was what worked for me with Exchange 2010.
Then to get the calendar on my phone, I used the Google Calendar Sync on my work computer, so no more need for device admin for any of it.
Got WidgetLocker and loving it.
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Ahhhh. Yea, I hooked up to my work email at one time and it made me put on a pin or screen lock. So, I uninstalled it - don't really need my work email on my phone - or i can just check it through the web.
Glad you found a work-around though.. this may help some others with a similar issue.

Yeah, I hunted for days to try to find some form of work around. Most of the email apps either only support exchange 2007 or have the same device admin forced settings.

Isn't there a "Corporate Sync" somewhere for Accounts that will sync your exchange email without requiring the Security? I could have swore I saw it somewhere.....

I had seen a patch to the built in email app, but I couldn't get it to work with the blur crapola. I would like to try cyanogen, but until we get an unlocked bootloader or Jim and lfaber get safestrap working, guess I'm stuck.
Thanks for the responses. Nice to finally join a community that's all about helping and doesn't tolerate trolls.

[Q] software and or cell tower issue

I have a galaxy s 4g (T959V) that is rooted and unlocked running CM9. I was given this site about a year ago when it was suggested I restore the factory software and reload CM9 from scratch. I am currently using Straight Talk also. All has been going well until recently. Multiple issues
1. If I receive text multiple text messages from one person.. they may not be received in the order they were sent .. sometimes messages sent to me are never received.
2. The phone randomly turns itself on and off.. it can be 1 or 2 times a day or not at all for several days.
3. The battery may indicate it needs to be plugged it and after i leave it off for a few minutes and turn it on, the phone indicates it does not need to be charged (sometime 50 plus % charge)
I am currently using my old T959 (not rooted or unlocked.. with the factory software) until i can do something with the T959V. I was never able to get the tethering, hotspot or wifi calling to work with the T959V but i do recall seeing something here or on the CM site saying that didnt work. The last two day I have been having issues with the T959 no receiving some texts also.
Any thoughts? Should I another version of CM or another OS? It would be nice to have the option of using tethering, hotspot and wifi calling.
Thanks in advance for all your help

Is the battery swollen? Place it on something flat and see if it sounds easy. Sounds like part of the problem could be that. I would suggest the cm11 that fb has out. He (and a lot of others) got it running smoothly on the old phone.

champ1919 said:
Is the battery swollen? Place it on something flat and see if it sounds easy. Sounds like part of the problem could be that. I would suggest the cm11 that fb has out. He (and a lot of others) got it running smoothly on the old phone.
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I was wondering that might be part of the problem. The newest battery appears slightly swollen but I am not using it currently. The older battery in use on T959 probably needs replaced and will be done so. Can I install cm 11 on the T959 also or should I leave that one stock? Just curious..I like having a backup in case of problems.
Thanks again

Looks like you have 4 separate issues:
1. Not receiving some texts and multiple texts being received out of order: Have no answer for this but it probably happens to everyone from time to time. Could possibly be the room in your home you happen to be in at the time.
2. Possible battery issues: See Champ1919's comments.
3. Tethering and hotspot: Both work fine with CM11 (which works wonderfully on this phone). If you choose to install this ROM please pay close attention to the flashing instructions and which Gapps file you should download and install.
4. Wi-fi calling: If you need this feature, you'll have to flash Gingerbread or any ROM based on Android 2.3.6 (such as Valhalla Black). Wi-fi calling does not work on the more advanced ROMs.

DickyG said:
Looks like you have 4 separate issues:
1. Not receiving some texts and multiple texts being received out of order: Have no answer for this but it probably happens to everyone from time to time. Could possibly be the room in your home you happen to be in at the time.
2. Possible battery issues: See Champ1919's comments.
3. Tethering and hotspot: Both work fine with CM11 (which works wonderfully on this phone). If you choose to install this ROM please pay close attention to the flashing instructions and which Gapps file you should download and install.
4. Wi-fi calling: If you need this feature, you'll have to flash Gingerbread or any ROM based on Android 2.3.6 (such as Valhalla Black). Wi-fi calling does not work on the more advanced ROMs.
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I have my T959V restored to factory setting now. I am giving up for the evening as I have been unable to get CWM from the Gapp store to get to my phone. As mentioned earlier I have both a T959 and T959V.. the playstore only acknowledged my 959 there as a my device and not the V,
I have the CM11 and the Gapp minimal on and SD card. I did copy my SD card to my pc. When I enter the samsung recovery and try to install the CM11 file, it says I do not have enough space on the SD card (16 gb card with 7.76gb free)
I will try again Monday evening and will purchase a new battery also.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305560
Don't use rom manager aka rom mangler!!
Search for lumin30's thread/guide. He links what you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716
[GUIDES] Fresh out of box Galaxy S 4G | Heimdall One-Click For Dummies
I believe fbis251 linked this in his cm11 thread.

champ1919 said:
Search for lumin30's thread/guide. He links what you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716
[GUIDES] Fresh out of box Galaxy S 4G | Heimdall One-Click For Dummies
I believe fbis251 linked this in his cm11 thread.
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I did link it. There are very specific steps you need to take to install CM11. Please read them carefully so you don't wind up with an expensive paper weight .

FBis251 said:
I did link it. There are very specific steps you need to take to install CM11. Please read them carefully so you don't wind up with an expensive paper weight .
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ugh.. technology has not been my friend lately. (i have a windows machine that say is has no os on it and i need to reload this laptop from scratch also.. so that might be some of the issues) when i bought the T959V a little over a year ago it was rooted and unlocked. last october i was had to reload cm9. sunday night when i thought i had reload the factory software back, did that unroot the phone?
tonight i was unable to get super manager to the T959V, i did notice the apn changes at will from straight talk to tmobile. i did see the "efs" file on the sd card and copied that to my pc. superoneclick was downloaded from download.com because the link kept timing out from the xda site.
i waited 45 minutes after i clicked on root but gave up .. checking if rooted showed false. checking for shell root showed false. i did copy the report that was generated and saw several no such file or directories on that.
any thoughts?
thanks

kindanewb said:
ugh.. technology has not been my friend lately. (i have a windows machine that say is has no os on it and i need to reload this laptop from scratch also.. so that might be some of the issues) when i bought the T959V a little over a year ago it was rooted and unlocked. last october i was had to reload cm9. sunday night when i thought i had reload the factory software back, did that unroot the phone?
tonight i was unable to get super manager to the T959V, i did notice the apn changes at will from straight talk to tmobile. i did see the "efs" file on the sd card and copied that to my pc. superoneclick was downloaded from download.com because the link kept timing out from the xda site.
i waited 45 minutes after i clicked on root but gave up .. checking if rooted showed false. checking for shell root showed false. i did copy the report that was generated and saw several no such file or directories on that.
any thoughts?
thanks
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You gotta slow down a bit first. What ROM do you currently have on your phone?
What's your issue now?
Do you have a Heimdall One Click you can use to go back to stock rooted GB?

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You gotta slow down a bit first. What ROM do you currently have on your phone?
What's your issue now?
Do you have a Heimdall One Click you can use to go back to stock rooted GB?
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Yes I have Heimdall One Click and used that last Sunday to go from CM 9 back to stock (unless I missed something doing that). The T959V shows GB 2.3.6. I am now attempting to go from that to CM 11. The Gapp store only acknowledged my Vibrant not the T959V which was why the Super Manager did not load on that phone.
Thanks

kindanewb said:
Yes I have Heimdall One Click and used that last Sunday to go from CM 9 back to stock (unless I missed something doing that). The T959V shows GB 2.3.6. I am now attempting to go from that to CM 11. The Gapp store only acknowledged my Vibrant not the T959V which was why the Super Manager did not load on that phone.
Thanks
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You need to now flash a rooted kernel with a CWM recovery. @bhundven made it easy for you by making this one click:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/teamacid/files/bhundven/Stock_KJ6_and_root-One-Click.jar/download
Just download Bryan's one click and flash your phone with it.
Reboot to recovery, then flash my latest CM11 build.

And give up on the cwm app for this phone. It's not supported. If you flash the vibrant one, you'll brick.

FB I did as you said and now have CM 11 on the phone. I just got frustrated with technology issues. I have MobileGO on a pc and used that to copy stuff from one phone to another (but have a nandroid backup also as that was on the vibrant). My calling log does show up but nothing shows up as contacts as well as no transferred text messages. Also the names of my playlist show up also but nothing is in them.
Thanks

kindanewb said:
FB I did as you said and now have CM 11 on the phone. I just got frustrated with technology issues. I have MobileGO on a pc and used that to copy stuff from one phone to another (but have a nandroid backup also as that was on the vibrant). My calling log does show up but nothing shows up as contacts as well as no transferred text messages. Also the names of my playlist show up also but nothing is in them.
Thanks
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Do you mean that none of that data got transferred or none of that (contacts, call list, etc) is not showing up after you installed CM11? You can probably transfer some of that stuff using some play store apps, you can make backups to your sd card and copy the data to your SGS4G.

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Do you mean that none of that data got transferred or none of that (contacts, call list, etc) is not showing up after you installed CM11? You can probably transfer some of that stuff using some play store apps, you can make backups to your sd card and copy the data to your SGS4G.
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I should had stated that better. The copied info (contacts, calls logs, texts, pictures music was done to a computer then transferred to the SGS4G) appeared to transfer after I installed CM 11. Currently the contacts list is empty (main thing), the playlist shows empty but the music appears in Apollo and the pictures show in gallery.
I havent CM 11 greatly yet.. but I do like the changes that were very obvious over CM 9
Thanks

kindanewb said:
I should had stated that better. The copied info (contacts, calls logs, texts, pictures music was done to a computer then transferred to the SGS4G) appeared to transfer after I installed CM 11. Currently the contacts list is empty (main thing), the playlist shows empty but the music appears in Apollo and the pictures show in gallery.
I havent CM 11 greatly yet.. but I do like the changes that were very obvious over CM 9
Thanks
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Hmm, you can try exporting the contacts via the contacts app on your other phone. It'll create a vcard file that is universal. It'll work to import your contacts in CM11, I have tested this myself.
As far as the playlists, it will depend on the music player. Which player were you using before?

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Hmm, you can try exporting the contacts via the contacts app on your other phone. It'll create a vcard file that is universal. It'll work to import your contacts in CM11, I have tested this myself.
As far as the playlists, it will depend on the music player. Which player were you using before?
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I did get a vcard file file and contacts all transferred to sd card and imported the the SGS4G.
The playlist is my error. I forgot when I went from SGS4G and back to the stock Vibrant that I had to recreate the playlist there also. I will try Apollo again once I can access it without the following message.. Unfortunately, Apollo has stopped. I did notice on albums over 10 tracks long the are (example on 15 track album) 15,14,13,12,11,10,1... to 9. If I am listening to an audio book and need the tracks in order, will changing the # to an alpha (a.b.c.d.e.) keep that order?
Thanks

kindanewb said:
I did get a vcard file file and contacts all transferred to sd card and imported the the SGS4G.
The playlist is my error. I forgot when I went from SGS4G and back to the stock Vibrant that I had to recreate the playlist there also. I will try Apollo again once I can access it without the following message.. Unfortunately, Apollo has stopped. I did notice on albums over 10 tracks long the are (example on 15 track album) 15,14,13,12,11,10,1... to 9. If I am listening to an audio book and need the tracks in order, will changing the # to an alpha (a.b.c.d.e.) keep that order?
Thanks
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Hmm i'm not sure about Apollo specifically but most music players will let you do sorting like you're saying, so if the files for the audiobooks you're listening to are in numeric order, then using alphabetic sorting should work for you.
Ex:
Track 01
Track 02
Track 03
should all play in order with alphabetic sorting

FBis251 said:
Hmm i'm not sure about Apollo specifically but most music players will let you do sorting like you're saying, so if the files for the audiobooks you're listening to are in numeric order, then using alphabetic sorting should work for you.
Ex:
Track 01
Track 02
Track 03
should all play in order with alphabetic sorting
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I will give that a try once Apollo works again. Not sure why it hasnt worked since Monday. Also the installed camera and browser are getting the same message about "unfortunately has stopped". All of these did work over the weekend. Ideas?
Thanks

I messed around with Apollo and found other options and have it working and have made several playlist.
Thanks for all your help