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I got the phone on day one. The first thing I noticed as I looked at the phone as I walked out the door to my car was the 4g icon. Yay, I am on 4g! Wait, where did the icon go? It's pretty much been that way since I have had it. I keep it on Wifi at home. To put it on 4g, pretty much kills having a MOBILE smartphone. Data is the lifeblood of a smartphone and if it is not there, what's the point.
I have tried every single fix read here (and other forums). Including:
Rev A fix
Hard Reset
Pulling Battery and Sim card and placing back in
I have tried everything but take the phone back and complaining (rooted it).
Per the Verizon coverage map, I am (my house) in a 4g area. On the map, they ask for your address and it say's "I am covered" for 4g. I will note there are a few pockets on the map near my home that is 4g extended. I had been thinking it's just my area. As I would drive around, it would seem to lock onto 4g. But lately, no matter where I go, 4g goes in and out.
When the 4g goes in and out, it is killing all data. It's not like it quickly finds the 3g and resumes data transfer, it just stops. Goes to 1x after a while mostley.
So where I am at right now is that I have forced 3g (using Phone Info app) and now can get reliable mobile data.
Should I be patience with the network and wait it out or should I take this back and ***** (possibly being the device itself)? When does one suppose a possible software fix will be put out for the Thunderbolt?
Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
If thats the case I know you said you tried the Rev A fix but just to double check did you:
Use the ##778# menu (hit call after ##778#)-->password is 000000-->modem settings-->Rev A-->choose enable-->hit the menu button on the tbolt and commit changes
Also have you had verizon try to swap out your sim card and/or called them up and made sure your current sim card is provisioned correctly? If both of these are the case and you tried all the other standard stuff I would go get the phone swapped out for another new device before your time runs out. I had the same problem and the Rev A fix did it for me.
jvward
What city are you in?
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What city are you in?
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Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.
Maybe return it and get a new TB?
I didn't have 4G in my home although Verizon's little "insert address" said I would. When I called, however, they said that I was on the border and it's a tough call for now.
When I started driving around to different areas, however, it picked up 4G signal just fine. When driving back into a 3G area it switched with no issue.
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What city are you in?
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And thats the right question to ask.
My 4G, in Los Angeles, is amazing. But Verizon is just starting to get 4G up and running in many cities right now, cant expect to have great coverage for many more months.
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Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
jvward
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When the 4g drops, data stops. No icon. Sometimes 3g shows up. Mostly 1x. Lately, nothing. No icon, no data.
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Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.
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I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
Almost, but hanging on by a thread....
I am new to Verizon and I picked this up the day after launch. My two weeks are up. I am not in the 4G area (home), but spend most of my waking moment in a 4G area (work). While the phone itself doesn't have a hard time switching between networks on the handheld (I've watched it go from 3 to 4G while driving, I can almost pinpoint the switching area), it does have a hard time when in WiFi Hotspot Mode.
Here's what I mean. I'll be on wireless tether in a 4G zone and then without notice, the phone reports (via Hotspot App) that there is no mobile network ready and there is no data connection icon on the top menu bar. My Xoom is much more reliable on maintaining a connection (3G of course).
This is my only complaint about the 4G network, but it's a small one. The handheld itself is wonderful. I'm keeping both for now.
Check out my speed test on WiFi tether.
Verizon confirmed on the phone with me that there is in fact a bug in HTCs software switching from 4G to 3G when coverage drops. It should be fixed... In the mean time make sure you are using an app from the market to switch to 3G only unless you need 4G.
Other than that, just return it and wait for something else.
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I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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LOL. I live straight down 747 in Liberty Twp. (few miles up from Beckett Ridge). Driving around would get me a better connection (4g) at first but lately, as I drive around, it's all over the board. Most the time there is no data icon. I have another app (Phone Info) that has a toggle.
It gets frustrating in that I don't know if the issue is the phone, network or both. Hard to troubleshoot. I suppose I should mosey on down to the mall for anything and see what kind of 4g I get.
I am in almost the same situation as the OP, I have 4G everywhere but my home which I have confirmed with VZW is in a 4G coverage area, not an extended coverage area either. I have narrowed it down to my street exactly. Right after I turn down imy street I lose 4G.
I then once I am home and no I don't mean indoors just at my house I frequently go between nothing, 1x, and 3G(Very Weak) with sporadic data. Will not get 4G back unless I drive around. This is my second device, and second trouble ticket with VZW this time giving more detailed information.
I have also tried every possible solution but unfortunately switching to Rev. A is not a "solution" for me as I am in a 4G area and if I wanted 3G I probably would have just kept my Droid X.
I sure hope this bug if it is one in the software will be fixed with an update or VZW can sort it out if it is my network.
ridobe said:
I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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Update:
Per my experience yesterday, if you are within the 275 loop, you are golden. Once I hit West Chester/Beckett Ridge, LTE started dropping. At my house, it is almost non-existent.
Hey guys, anyone know if there is a good 4G toggle widget compatible with this phone?
I tried beautiful widgets' 4G toggle and it doesn't do jack ****. :|
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I tried beautiful widgets' 4G toggle and it doesn't do jack ****. :|
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LOL Same here
welll...
I don't think you can find one because there isn't really a switch. Cause unlike sprint, which can use wi-max, and Verizon, which uses LTE, there is really no change in the network in T-mobiles service. Cause there is GSM(Edge/2G), UMTS(3G), HSDPA and HSDPA+(4G). Cause even on my Nexus One i could use HSDPA, and i would see slight speed increase, but only "4G" phones can take full advantage of the new towers. So, there is not exactly anyway to turn 4G of outside of switching to 2G or simply turning the internet off...
Found an app called switch pro allows me to toggle data on and off. turning it off when not in use saves me a lot of battery.
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I use one called 2g-3g on off by CurveFish. I dont htink there is any way to have a true toggle (like wifi or BT), but this brings me to the settings screen and I can adjust it easy enough as needed. It's about the best we can hope for at this point
The the 4g is actually 3g, it uses the same radio. So there is no way to toggle it off, unless you want to use 2g.
I second the CurveFish App, very simple and reduces clicks necessary to disable data.
Looks like ATampT is becoming notorious for not including any 3G or 4G toggles. Not only can customers not turn off 3G in spotty 3G areas but now they can't turn off 4G LTE????!!!! Does AT&T not realize that someone who is in a spotty 4G LTE area will have their phone die twice as quick? I don't understand for the life in me why they don't give the customer the option to choose which network they want to be on?
I know I have the option to turn off cellular data but then I have no data whatsoever. If my phone sits in the drawer at work most of the day why can't it be forced to EDGE??? I know for a fact AT&T has an EDGE network to fall back on out here.
They allow iPhone 3GS and 4 owners to toggle 3G but not the 4S which is HSPA+. Now they don't allow you to turn off 4G LTE unless you root. WOW!!!
Honestly, they could care less about the battery life, but they do want you to use more data so they make more money. The faster the connection, the easier it would be to exceed your limit without realizing until its too late, or you may upgrade your data package because its faster. Either way is a win win for AT&T which means more money.
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Honestly, they could care less about the battery life, but they do want you to use more data so they make more money. The faster the connection, the easier it would be to exceed your limit without realizing until its too late, or you may upgrade your data package because its faster. Either way is a win win for AT&T which means more money.
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Wow I never thought of that. I have unlimited but I guess the faster the connection the faster I can be throttled. Boy do I wish there was a good cell phone company in America that actually gave a sh*t about their customers.
Hopefully I will be able to add the toggles in on my rom.
another idea, make another APN without the info for LTE.
designgears said:
Hopefully I will be able to add the toggles in on my rom.
another idea, make another APN without the info for LTE.
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was just coming in here to ask if installing a custom rom would allow AT&T users to toggle edge/3g/hspa/lte . that would be REALLY nice!
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was just coming in here to ask if installing a custom rom would allow AT&T users to toggle edge/3g/hspa/lte . that would be REALLY nice!
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Yes, there are many roms for the Samsung SkyRocket that allow such toggles. Its a setting with the modem radio.
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Yes, there are many roms for the Samsung SkyRocket that allow such toggles. Its a setting with the modem radio.
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would there be any way of using these toggles without using another rom?
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would there be any way of using these toggles without using another rom?
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No, hence my frustration. Yea I like rooting but I'm pretty new to it and we shouldn't have to do it to gain this functionality.
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would there be any way of using these toggles without using another rom?
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yes, but may need a modded kernel, root for sure. there are apps that shut off lte and 3g but require root. like DD said, try changing the apn.
It's also because they want to alleviate their load on the towers. All the people on 4g LTE are not on 3g, they don't care if it kills your battery because the signal is spotty.
does this mean even after sim unlock. i wouldnt be able to use this phone overseas and have 3g working?
Can you not change it under *#*#4636#*#* under phone info and scroll to preferred network type.
someone posted the answer to this question in another thread.
The LTE is integrated. So it just looks for the best available network. If you dont have lte, then it will connect you to 3g or hspa+.
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Looks like ATampT is becoming notorious for not including any 3G or 4G toggles. Not only can customers not turn off 3G in spotty 3G areas but now they can't turn off 4G LTE????!!!! Does AT&T not realize that someone who is in a spotty 4G LTE area will have their phone die twice as quick? I don't understand for the life in me why they don't give the customer the option to choose which network they want to be on?
I know I have the option to turn off cellular data but then I have no data whatsoever. If my phone sits in the drawer at work most of the day why can't it be forced to EDGE??? I know for a fact AT&T has an EDGE network to fall back on out here.
They allow iPhone 3GS and 4 owners to toggle 3G but not the 4S which is HSPA+. Now they don't allow you to turn off 4G LTE unless you root. WOW!!!
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I don't get it; if you don;t want LTE why not just buy the international One X and have 32gig as well?
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I don't get it; if you don;t want LTE why not just buy the international One X and have 32gig as well?
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I don't want to pay $600+ for a phone. I'm going to be on AT&T for at least 2 years so I might as well get a subsidized phone.
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Can you not change it under *#*#4636#*#* under phone info and scroll to preferred network type.
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Nope. Selecting any option that is not LTE it just bounces back to the "GSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto" option. Heck, even selecting "LTE only" bounces back to the default.
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someone posted the answer to this question in another thread.
The LTE is integrated. So it just looks for the best available network. If you dont have lte, then it will connect you to 3g or hspa+.
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This was speculation on the part of that poster. See my response in that thread.
I remember this was also an issue on the Vivid. Toggle widgets don't work, the *#*#4636#*#* code doesn't work.
Try changing the APN to turn off LTE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19170113
Not a convenient toggle. But once you have the second APN setup, it wouldn't be too much of a pain to switch back and forth APNs (if it does work).
Also for the majority of the US, it doesn't even matter because AT&T LTE coverage is pretty minimal in its current form.
It even shocks me because ...
I'm quite surprised that AT&T does not allow you to turn off LTE.
My Rogers unit specifically allows this, so it's very strange to me.
Peter
I mentioned earlier it killing your battery, but considering the LTE is built in, there's no reason to really worry.
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This was speculation on the part of that poster. See my response in that thread.
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speculation sounds about right
you posted that you got 13 hours with your phone. Sounds about right. 1.5 hours of talk time with mild usuage. Not sure if you had data on or off during those times. So.....
DING DING DING we have a winner
I was at the AT&T store playing with the One X yesterday. I had read the complaints about not being able to turn LTE off, mainly centered around battery concerns. Well, I think there is a much bigger concern.
AT&T's LTE network is obviously spotty in most places. It's supposedly pretty robust here in the DC area. Well, the phone I was playing with was constantly switching between LTE and HSPA. And guess what? Every time it switched, it lost its data connection for a good 30+ seconds. So since it was switching back and forth constantly, it would lose data connection for several minutes at a time before it would finally stabilize on either LTE or HSPA for a few minutes. Then it would start switching back and forth again, thereby losing data yet again.
It took me about 10 minutes just to download the SpeedTest app from the market. And then, I could not even get a single speedtest to complete running because it never stabilized on a connection for long enough to complete the test. Web pages wouldn't load. Youtube wouldn't load. Basically rendered the phone useless.
So yeah, battery concerns are there, but they are minor compared to this. If you are in an area with weak LTE, but you do not have the ability to turn LTE off, you might essentially find yourself with no data connection whatsoever as your phone bounces back and forth between LTE and HSPA. I imagine that would be a deal breaker for most people.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my house and my office both get either strong enough LTE signals to avoid this, or, alternatively, that they get no LTE signal at all so that it just stays on HSPA.
Battery concerns aside, this is why AT&T needs to give us the option to turn LTE off.
No LTE in my area for a while, which is strange because I live near two big cities and neither of them have LTE yet, for that matter no city in TN has LTE yet
I believe you can technically turn the lte off by selecting "hspa only" in mobile network settings.
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I believe you can technically turn the lte off by selecting "hspa only" in mobile network settings.
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From what I've read, you can do this on the Rogers version, but not on the AT&T one.
In the future I can almost guarantee that there will be an option to turn it off and on as you wish. Most likely will require root but, if you aren't going to root it what are you doing here anyways haha
Well for what its worth, A quick flash of a rogers ROM and we are good to go ;-). Not that we should have to, but we shouldn't be kept from doing as we wish with out device. I am sure I will be flashing within the first hour of a released ROM.
Nope they disable it on all their phones. They don't want the customer selecting their network. They can charge more for data on LTE as its faster and you'll use more quickly.
They also don't want us to be able to force EDGE. Totally ridiculous.
I'm referring to the settings under mobile networks
GSM Only
GSM/HSPA ONLY
GSM/HSPA auto
GSM/HSPA/LTE
HSPA only
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Nope they disable it on all their phones. They don't want the customer selecting their network. They can charge more for data on LTE as its faster and you'll use more quickly.
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Not for those of us on unlimited data! Their plan backfires.
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They also don't want us to be able to force EDGE. Totally ridiculous.
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I might be misremembering an old article, but from what I've read, they're actually starting to repurpose/shut down EDGE towers in cities with a lot of 3G/4G coverage. A good reason to keep us from selecting EDGE only.
I just want them to turn on LTE in Philly.
If the next iPhone (which will have LTE I believe) didn't have a feature where you can disable LTE, then people would go crazy. It's really a shame that the Rogers model allows you to do so but the AT&T model does not. It's not a big deal to me, but certainly I think the consumer should always have that option.
I am one of the lucky ones to still have unlimited on AT&T but there can't be that many of us left where it would affect things.
Pick up an AT&T iPhone 3GS or iPhone 4 and you have an option to turn off 3G. And yes people would go nuts if the next iPhone didn't have an option to turn off LTE.
I hope they don't do away with EDGE. First thing I'd say is, why at home do I get 3 bars of 3G and then if I can switch to EDGE I get a full signal? Call quality isn't broken up like it is on 3G. I'd also like the option to switch my device to EDGE while I'm at work all day to save battery life. EDGE serves a very good purpose for me still.
I think more people need to start calling AT&T technical support and complaining about this. I guess its possible the next update could have this feature.
What good is LTE when its draining my phone sitting in a desk drawer all day?
I remember reading that by "getting rid of EDGE" ATT is actually upgrading those towers to 3G. So, yeah, you lose EDGE, but it gets replaced by better 3G coverage.
Although I entirely agree that not being able to toggle LTE is rediculous.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12261_...-phones-will-be-thinner-more-efficient-scoop/
I'll just leave this here...
Just because Verizon rushed out LTE phones before the tech was ready which resulted in terrible battery life, doesn't mean AT&T did the same thing.
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I remember reading that by "getting rid of EDGE" ATT is actually upgrading those towers to 3G. So, yeah, you lose EDGE, but it gets replaced by better 3G coverage.
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Is that even possible? I thought EDGE is still used for voice, and the reason that we can browse and use voice at the same time (like AT&T always advertises). I'm no expert by any means. But I don't think they can get rid of the EDGE towers, until they do something like move completely to 3G for voice, and LTE for all data (which obviously would not happen for a long time).
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If spotty LTE coverage indeed proves to be a problem on the One X, you can try manually enter a new APN to force the phone to HSPA+. I read it worked on the Vivid.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25340058&postcount=16
cant we turn off mobile network all together?
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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12261_...-phones-will-be-thinner-more-efficient-scoop/
I'll just leave this here...
Just because Verizon rushed out LTE phones before the tech was ready which resulted in terrible battery life, doesn't mean AT&T did the same thing.
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Did you even read the original post? It really had nothing to do with battery life, which is a minor concern compared to what I described.
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cant we turn off mobile network all together?
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Only a solution if you have WiFi access. This would have no impact on the situation the OP is talking about: spotty LTE coverage causing data connection to be dropped.
Also defeats the purpose of having an LTE phone.
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Is that even possible? I thought EDGE is still used for voice, and the reason that we can browse and use voice at the same time (like AT&T always advertises). I'm no expert by any means. But I don't think they can get rid of the EDGE towers, until they do something like move completely to 3G for voice, and LTE for all data (which obviously would not happen for a long time).
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If spotty LTE coverage indeed proves to be a problem on the One X, you can try manually enter a new APN to force the phone to HSPA+. I read it worked on the Vivid.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25340058&postcount=16
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Both GSM and UMTS support circuit switched voice calls. Only LTE does not, as there is not yet a standard defined for voice over LTE...so as long as there is a 2G or 3G network for circuit switched fallback, it will work.
Data is independent of voice in all GSM derived networks, unlike CDMA.
Your data connection does not reflect call quality.
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You know, the current iPhone doesn't give you an option to force EDGE
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You know, the current iPhone doesn't give you an option to force EDGE
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No, but why do the 3GS and 4 allow it?
Ok, i finally got this thing rooted. I have a few questions about this, and these may be more ICS questions than Photon questions.
Do I have to do anything to turn on 4g? I cant find anywhere to do this. I liked the toggle buttons that showed at the top of older version of android, anyway to get those back? I ask because i was in an area yesterday where 4g service is available, but i never saw the phone automatically change to 4g.
Also, a program that i have used alot in the past is Roam Control. This is so that when i was at my hunting land, i could set my phone to roam only. I noticed more options in Preferred Network Mode. Is this how to set my phone to roam only? Because i installed Roam Control, and it doesnt work for this phone.
Check in development for the toggles. Still no 4G toggle. But rangerbry did an awesome job porting the others over.
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In the mobile networks section of the phone there are options, in your case, "CDMA" or "CDMA/LTE". I would think if you leave CDMA/ LTE selected the phone will connect to LTE when it or IF it is available. If not it will simply stay on 3G/CDMA.
How did you know the area you wer ein actually had LTE? Sprint seems to be launching a market when there is like 20% coverage, so good chunks of an area will not see it light up yet on the phones.
not lte but 4g. i know because my other phone got 4g service there. It seems like if u leave this phone on automatic, its not actually automatic cause it wont pickup 4g. which option do i use for roam only?
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not lte but 4g. i know because my other phone got 4g service there. It seems like if u leave this phone on automatic, its not actually automatic cause it wont pickup 4g. which option do i use for roam only?
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Which other phone? Was it WiMax capable? This phone will only do LTE, not Sprints WiMax. Both are different forms of 4G for Sprint.
tetrabyt said:
Check in development for the toggles. Still no 4G toggle. But rangerbry did an awesome job porting the others over.
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Would be really nice to have some way to toggle 4g on/off... I know my buddy's Evo3D (yes, wimax...) can easily toggle it on/off. He said his battery life is WAY better when he leaves his wimax radio off, and I would imagine leaving the LTE radio off would be beneficial.
As there isn't a whole lot of Sprint rollout for LTE right now, turning it off permanently isn't a bad thing... But if I'm traveling or just curious - it would be nice to have this toggle!
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In the mobile networks section of the phone there are options, in your case, "CDMA" or "CDMA/LTE". I would think if you leave CDMA/ LTE selected the phone will connect to LTE when it or IF it is available. If not it will simply stay on 3G/CDMA.
How did you know the area you wer ein actually had LTE? Sprint seems to be launching a market when there is like 20% coverage, so good chunks of an area will not see it light up yet on the phones.
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Yea, it seems like this is the only method right now. Just set the network to "CDMA" and it will only be able to connect to 3g. I don't see any change in the 4g status, any way to verify this?
I was actually surprised at how granular my buddy's 3vo was with 4g - it was almost like wifi, had everything separate (and this is stock...) So I'm really hoping we can sort out something similar - because I don't see how wimax and LTE are different in these respects - no?
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... because I don't see how WiMax and LTE are different in these respects - no?
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Nah, as I suspect that unlike WiMax (which was a separate chipset) the LTE radio is combined with the CDMA radio on the chipset (and maybe even the GSM radio, if the chipset's advanced enough- I know there's combined CDMA/GSM radios).
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Nah, as I suspect that unlike WiMax (which was a separate chipset) the LTE radio is combined with the CDMA radio on the chipset (and maybe even the GSM radio, if the chipset's advanced enough- I know there's combined CDMA/GSM radios).
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That would suck. So far my battery life on this device is really awful... I've only been awake for 2 hours and I'm down 20%. Granted I have been playing with it more than I usually would (under "normal" usage patterns... new phone and all ), but damn! I wonder how long this thing will be able to stream music...
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That would suck. So far my battery life on this device is really awful... I've only been awake for 2 hours and I'm down 20%. Granted I have been playing with it more than I usually would (under "normal" usage patterns... new phone and all ), but damn! I wonder how long this thing will be able to stream music...
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Streams music for the better part of 8hrs for me while at work. And if it isn't music or videos, I'm talking on the phone. I have you tried smart actions yet?
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Streams music for the better part of 8hrs for me while at work. And if it isn't music or videos, I'm talking on the phone. I have you tried smart actions yet?
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I need to play more with the Smart Actions. The only one I have setup now is an overnight one if I forget to plug it in.
arrrghhh said:
I need to play more with the Smart Actions. The only one I have setup now is an overnight one if I forget to plug it in.
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They are sweet...
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I don't know if you "got" your answer, but I was talking with a Sprint Rep and she told me that the LTE just "turns" on. It's kinda like Tmo's HSPA. It's part of the Network. It just switches over if it sees it.
In your settings, you can say CDMA or CDMA/LTE. That's asking 3G or 3G/4G LTE. As far as a toggle, someone needs to come up with it. LoL!!
Your best bet, until a developer comes up with the answer, is to make a shortcut to that. I want this phone. =.P
No_Nickname90 said:
[I was told] the LTE just "turns" on. It's kinda like Tmo's HSPA. It's part of the Network. It just switches over if it sees it.
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The issue, of course, is that having the LTE radio (which appears to be a separate entity, unlike GSM where it's merely another modulation scheme that the chipset understands) be on all the time drains power that's essentially being wasted since Sprint's LTE Network is largely nonexistent.
The reason for wanting a Toggle is for those folks who spend their time in non-LTE (or marginal LTE signal) areas, who'd like a quick way to either test for an upcoming rollout, or to use LTE only when in a known LTE-enabled area.
kcrudup said:
The issue, of course, is that having the LTE radio (which appears to be a separate entity, unlike GSM where it's merely another modulation scheme that the chipset understands) be on all the time drains power that's essentially being wasted since Sprint's LTE Network is largely nonexistent.
The reason for wanting a Toggle is for those folks who spend their time in non-LTE (or marginal LTE signal) areas, who'd like a quick way to either test for an upcoming rollout, or to use LTE only when in a known LTE-enabled area.
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Yea. I completely understand that. That's why I also stated that OP should just have a shortcut to their setting where they can change from CDMA to CDMA/LTE. That way OP can turn off LTE when not using it. A toggle, of course, would make this process a whole lot easier. I don't see why there isn't a toggle. There's a toggle for 4G WiMax. It does the same thing. When it's not connected, it just idles and scans again. It uses more battery looking for 4G to connect to than actually using it. LoL!! I've noticed that 4G WiMax "sleeps" quickly once it connects. I hope LTE would do the same.
Let me stop before I start ranting on. LoL!!
tetrabyt said:
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I looked at them briefly....am I missing something or does the battery saving one not give you the ability to give parameters like syncing every 30 minutes/1 hour or the like? If the ability is there, I couldn't figure out how to edit that one properly. I only saw 3 options and the one that'd be closest to what I'd want basically read like it will only sync when you're actively using the phone. I want that, but additionally would like it to connect and sync periodically and shut data back off. I'd used Green Power Premium on my Epic for that but thought maybe Smart Actions would give me the ability to do away with using it.