Question about superuser app - EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have su via the rooting process (I think it came with visionary)
When I go to the market, it doesn't recognize that it's already installed. Is it ok for me to uninstall my current copy and install this one?
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chances are it will install over the current version

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[Q] Very stupid question about superuser, oblige me please

Hi guys. Samsung Galaxy Ace, 2.3.6, rooted with the file upd_1.zip downloaded with this website.
1. It's an .apk file for rooting, correct? Are all such files (i.e. apk files for rooting) installed through the recovery mode?
2. How does it differ from
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ub3NodWZvdS5hbmRyb2lkLnN1Il0.
3. It's installed in system/app, correct? If it is a system app, why can't I uninstall it with Titanium backup like I do with Samsung Apps, Voice Search, FM Radio, and other system apps? (I use a file called unroot.zip to uninstall, downloaded from this website also)
Thanks guys!
1. .apk files are not installed through the recovery mode, every android app is an .apk file , so install it with the .apk installer
2. With "superuser" you can give apps rootaccess to your phone
3. No, root is deeper in the system, you can´t uninstall it with titanium backup because titanium needs root! Did you root per kernel or per App ( superoneclick )? If you rooted per kernel, install a stock kernel and you won´t have been rooted after. If you rooted per App, you normally can uninstall root with the app .
I hope I could help you.

How do I root a13 zeepad 7.0 tablet?

I tried searching on the forum for a13 allwinners zeepad 7.0 but can't find anything.
I bought this from amazon,
Android version:
4.0.4
Model number:
A13MID
Kernel Version: 3.0.8
Can someone help me root this tablet?
Anyone? :|
Baoish said:
Anyone? :|
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Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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deeno33 said:
Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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So, just install su and it will work?
deeno33 said:
Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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My daughter just got one of these devices for Christmas, as well. I saw this post as well and thought "Great, I don't have to do the part" so, I installed SuperUser, when I went to update the su binary, which was shown as "Legacy" it got all the way to where it needs to remount the / file system as rw, and to my surprise, it wont remount. Another thing I noticed was that even though it does have su installed, I can't get to the point to where the app even asks for root permission. I tried to update Busybox, as well, and it wouldn't let me even do that... The version which is installed to the tablet appears to be 1.18, but when SuperUser goes to update the su binary it reports back as being the same as the installed version, which I know for a fact that it is not. So while I do in fact have root, it seems to only be a partial root. Anyone willing to throw around some ideas as to where I can go from here to A) get the / file system to remount rw, and B) get SuperUser, an updated su binary and an updated Busybox installed so that I can a full root going and get down to business to installing CWM and CM10 installed and running on here for her.
Any help would be appreciated,
Matt
Yes there is A Solution To This Via A Simple App
meskes said:
My daughter just got one of these devices for Christmas, as well. I saw this post as well and thought "Great, I don't have to do the part" so, I installed SuperUser, when I went to update the su binary, which was shown as "Legacy" it got all the way to where it needs to remount the / file system as rw, and to my surprise, it wont remount. Another thing I noticed was that even though it does have su installed, I can't get to the point to where the app even asks for root permission. I tried to update Busybox, as well, and it wouldn't let me even do that... The version which is installed to the tablet appears to be 1.18, but when SuperUser goes to update the su binary it reports back as being the same as the installed version, which I know for a fact that it is not. So while I do in fact have root, it seems to only be a partial root. Anyone willing to throw around some ideas as to where I can go from here to A) get the / file system to remount rw, and B) get SuperUser, an updated su binary and an updated Busybox installed so that I can a full root going and get down to business to installing CWM and CM10 installed and running on here for her.
Any help would be appreciated,
Matt
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all zeepads come prerooted and shouldnt block u from updating or to have root access (download root checker) from market
Ur Binarys Should Still Update And Say Current If U Download New Binary Just Wont Show Up Till Reboot
If u Want To Stop This Error While Not Having To Reboot Everytime
Ya This IS Annoying to Do Everytime But Simple solution
THis Proplem IS Do To The Tablet Having A Stock Kernel That Doesnt Allow System Read/Write Access
This Is Why SuperUser Fails Cause It Needs Write Access To The Devices File System...(system/xbin/su)
Which means to Remount system after updating to take Affect And Most Stock Devices Do Not Allow This
so if u updated and it said current version ur ok this is to prevent anymore errors in the future
superuser can have different error witch mean different things just cuz u get one doesnt mean
they didnt take affect but remount of system is the most common error check superuser faq
1.Download Mount System R/W App From PlayStore And Install And Open.
2 .Allow Root Access To The App Then Select Mount System R/W Button
3. Press Home Button And Navigate To SuperUser App And Then Try Updating Binary
This Method Should Work For You
Hope This Works For You
As for cwm and cm9/cm10 it depends if u have a8 or a10 device a13 are not yet supported
MikeG_MG56 said:
all zeepads come prerooted and shouldnt block u from updating or to have root access (download root checker) from market
Ur Binarys Should Still Update And Say Current If U Download New Binary Just Wont Show Up Till Reboot
If u Want To Stop This Error While Not Having To Reboot Everytime
Ya This IS Annoying to Do Everytime But Simple solution
THis Proplem IS Do To The Tablet Having A Stock Kernel That Doesnt Allow System Read/Write Access
This Is Why SuperUser Fails Cause It Needs Write Access To The Devices File System...(system/xbin/su)
Which means to Remount system after updating to take Affect And Most Stock Devices Do Not Allow This
so if u updated and it said current version ur ok this is to prevent anymore errors in the future
superuser can have different error witch mean different things just cuz u get one doesnt mean
they didnt take affect but remount of system is the most common error check superuser faq
1.Download Mount System R/W App From PlayStore And Install And Open.
2 .Allow Root Access To The App Then Select Mount System R/W Button
3. Press Home Button And Navigate To SuperUser App And Then Try Updating Binary
This Method Should Work For You
Hope This Works For You
As for cwm and cm9/cm10 it depends if u have a8 or a10 device a13 are not yet supported
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Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I got the a13 and was wondering if anyone was making a cm9/cm10 rom for it as well. I have the a13. I tried to Google and can't find any info about any custom roms for this device.
I used kingRoot version 4.1 Any newer version would not root it.

[Q] Why is SU binary not updating after flashing CM10.1?

I'll start out by saying I'm a total noob at this whole android rooting process, hence why I'm posting a thread here rather than posting a reply in the appropriate thread. I rooted and unlocked my phone using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709&nocache=1
I opted for the "flashing rooted stock ROM" option.
As the title of my post states, after installing CM10.1, I open superuser to update binary and everything appears to work fine until the very end, it reads "making sure new su works...fail!". Now when I restore back to rooted TW, I have no problem updating the su binary. I've tried Superuser update fixer, I've installed busybox; i cant find any other solution on Google. Any ideas?
The CM file I downloaded is: cm-10.1-20130714-NIGHTLY-d2vzw.zip
Gapps file is: gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip
Liam1987 said:
I'll start out by saying I'm a total noob at this whole android rooting process, hence why I'm posting a thread here rather than posting a reply in the appropriate thread. I rooted and unlocked my phone using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709&nocache=1
I opted for the "flashing rooted stock ROM" option.
As the title of my post states, after installing CM10.1, I open superuser to update binary and everything appears to work fine until the very end, it reads "making sure new su works...fail!". Now when I restore back to rooted TW, I have no problem updating the su binary. I've tried Superuser update fixer, I've installed busybox; i cant find any other solution on Google. Any ideas?
The CM file I downloaded is: cm-10.1-20130714-NIGHTLY-d2vzw.zip
Gapps file is: gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip
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Make sure your using the latest version of the Superuser app, another option would be to try using SuperSU as an alternative to the Superuser app. Also is root access functioning normally for you?
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
Hi and thanks for the reply.
Yes superuser is up to date and I've tried supersu. Root seems to be functioning as I can open apps that require root access.
But when I try to restore missing apps via titanium backup, I get a msg saying "restore finished, 'x' elements failed". X being the number of apps I try to restore
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
Check to see if the root apps are granted root access.
chevyowner said:
Check to see if the root apps are granted root access.
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When I open SuperSU, it has a list of apps with superuser status. Is that what you mean? I can run root apps and as far as I can tell they're functioning, with the exception of when I try restoring apps with Titanium Backup
Also, right after I flashed CM10.1, I made a backup right away. Not sure if it means anything, but If I wipe/reset and restore the CM10.1 backup, and the first thing I do is try updating the binary in Superuser, it reads "checking installed version: 9 com.Android.Settings", until I open SuperSU and "update binary". Then if I go to Superuser, it'll say "checking installed version: 1.41:Superuser" as I imagine it should. But at this point I still run into "making sure new su works..fail!"
Superuser has no problem updating when I'm on my rooted stock. I'm sure I messed up somewhere along the way while flashing CM10.1, I just don't know where

[Q] SuperSU update fails

I know there's a dedicated SuperSU thread but being a newbie on this forum I cannot post there.
I have Teclast P78HD tablet (A31 and Android 4.4.2) which I have rooted using Kingo. There is no custom recovery available for this model, AFAIK, so zip option is out of question I think. Kingo installed SuperSU 1.9.1 which does work, but as Play offered an update I accepted it, got 2.0.1. A big mistake.
The system still works, it prompts to grant root access when an app needs it. But I cannot run the SuperSU app anymore, it asks if I want to update. If I select yes after a while it fails and tells to reboot and try again. Which of course gives the same result. Selecting cancel closes the program. Uninstalling the update returns the system back to working 1.9.1. I have tried also Settings / Cleanup / Reinstall and Settings / Cleanup / Switch superuser app but both fail similarily. I also tried to replace the APK in /system/app using ES File Explorer but this method also makes an app to ask for update.
Any ideas how to update SuperSU on this tablet? Maybe I should just forget the problem and use the current one, but it is somewhat old and the changelog lists many, many changes. Plus Play keeps offering an update which is somewhat annoying
Boffortes said:
I know there's a dedicated SuperSU thread but being a newbie on this forum I cannot post there.
I have Teclast P78HD tablet (A31 and Android 4.4.2) which I have rooted using Kingo. There is no custom recovery available for this model, AFAIK, so zip option is out of question I think. Kingo installed SuperSU 1.9.1 which does work, but as Play offered an update I accepted it, got 2.0.1. A big mistake.
The system still works, it prompts to grant root access when an app needs it. But I cannot run the SuperSU app anymore, it asks if I want to update. If I select yes after a while it fails and tells to reboot and try again. Which of course gives the same result. Selecting cancel closes the program. Uninstalling the update returns the system back to working 1.9.1. I have tried also Settings / Cleanup / Reinstall and Settings / Cleanup / Switch superuser app but both fail similarily. I also tried to replace the APK in /system/app using ES File Explorer but this method also makes an app to ask for update.
Any ideas how to update SuperSU on this tablet? Maybe I should just forget the problem and use the current one, but it is somewhat old and the changelog lists many, many changes. Plus Play keeps offering an update which is somewhat annoying
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uninstall supersu and try this one. some people have issues with supersu and have found superuser to work correctly.

replace kinguser with supersu

somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
dewagame said:
somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
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Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
ИΘΘK¡€ said:
Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
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hI! I try on my HUAWEI ASCEND G6 and... dont work ... is possibel that an update that Kinguser had done make it impossibel?????
I root with RootGenius_en, was ok, kinguser ask for a update, done. But Now i whant to change do SuperSu and dont work. I had permissions and every thing...
Help! :crying:
Me too
I'm trying to do this too, but I aint sure how to do it. I mean I guess if its not super necessary I can leave it the way it is. Tried this method and its a no go. I don't think the KingUser SU is letting superSU update its binaries. I already have twrp, but not sure what next. If its not necessary I'll leave it alone, but I was just wondering if theres any reason to change over or if it could even be done.
P.S This way never worked for me as superSU can't get past trying to install the binaries. I got twrp so I'm wondering if I'd have to flash it. Nothings wrong on my end are anything, but I just assumed having superSU would be better then kinguser but not really sure.
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
Must vary from device to device cause I've did all that, and it gives the message "Installing Please wait..." and then after it fails it says " Installation Failed! Please reboot and try again" and if kinguser is removed in superSU when trying to update/install the binaries it says "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem! If just upgraded to Android 4.3 you need to manually re-root- consult the relevant forums for your device."
This aint the g6 though but this thread is the kinguser replace with superSU thread. So I thought I'd post in it.
washichi said:
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
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Install SuperSu rom magazin play.
Then instal rom lite box.
Open the app, and uninstall kinguser
easy, and it`s working.I just deleted kinguser 2 mins ago
Hum
@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
freestilesteve said:
@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
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Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.
No worries bro. Probably varies depending on how you root from device to device.
Its not your fault. No worries. I'm just thinking it varies from device to device and how you actually go about rooting . I'm also thinking that maybe if I rooted with another app/prog that it would have been easier to switch from king user to superSU. I use lookout premium security on my phone and kingroot and king user have never been flagged with any viruses so I've just left it on and running the way it is and so far so good. Other then the two errors I mentioned in the previous post king user/kingroot has been working good. I'm sure if I did a whole restore/wipe/clean and root with another program there might be a possibility to remove king user and replace with superSU but in the end I just decided to roll with king user/kingroot as I didn't feel like doing al that and its been doing its job fine.
QUOTE=andruala;58880236]Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.[/QUOTE]
Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
The earlier versions of Kingo Root were much better
jidanni said:
Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
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Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
Indeed. What is needed is for someone to take a vanilla phone into a cleanroom, install the mess, and report back on exactly what ended up getting put where, in order for somebody to make a "kinguser detox/.antidote" APP and/or shell scripts that would clean the mess totally back off.
don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
satine01black said:
don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
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Why did you need to root with kingo if you have custom recovery?!
I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
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I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
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Oh. I wasn't angry at you Was just asking.
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
satine01black said:
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
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You can, but it doesn't really make much sense to.
Use Eroot, then try superSU installation
CVAngelo said:
Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
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I had the same issue with my mobile, (Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray (ST18i)), I then rooted my phone with EROOT Software which installed a superuser app, then i got the .apk file of SuperSU via Bluetooth from a friend and installed it. one has to grant permission when it asks for superuser rights, then updating binary files is no longer a problem. It also asks for removal of the Superuser-app that was pushed through the EROOT software, you do that. Then I installed link2SD and link2sd pro key from google play store and converted the SuperSU app into a system-app. Now SuperSU is working perfectly again.
You both should try it!!

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