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[Q] Should I root my nexus s questions

Hi,
Had nexus s for about 2 weeks. Best phone I've ever had, but I'm thinking of rooting it. I've done loads of reading about rooting and been trying out the initial steps. I had a struggle getting the drivers installed, but using the pdanet workaround which I found on this forum (thanks to the op of that thread), I now have the option to go ahead with oem fastboot unlock. I haven't done it yet as I still have questions, and I've been searching all over the place for answers but I'm still not too clear, so had to post.
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I want to root as I am sick of the phone resetting my ringtones and google don't seem to be responding to this bug. I know that if i root it I can copy my ringtones over into the system ringtone folder and get rid of the problem.
Also fancy installing cyanogen mod once they come up with one for nexus s.
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Can I definitely get the phone back to stock if I need to. I read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884097 and it looks like I can, but some posters said some things that make me wonder?
I've read that the nexus s can't really be bricked because of the recovery that is hardwired on the phone. Is that true? It was expensive and I don't want to brick it. Bricked an n95 a while back and that was depressing.
Can i get superuser access without installing a custom rom. I'd be quite happy if I could just get superuser accesss (or just be able to copy over to system ringtones folder) and the OS would stay the same.
Do I need a custom recovery. I downloaded one from xda after a bit of searching, but is it needed.
Sorry about all the noob questions - but you are always a noob sometime
Hope somebody can advise.
Cheers

Have a read at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960551

xspyda said:
Have a read at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960551
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Thanks for your post. It's too late now anyway. I rooted the thing and I am glad I did. No problems so far that I have found, and I got the poxy ringtones problem solved.
For anybody else that finds themselves in my complete noob position, I found this tutorial the most comprehensive - http://completeandroid.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/complete-guide-to-rooting-the-nexus-s/ .

Maybe not too late if you need to go back to stock for warranty purposs though eh?! ;-)

xspyda said:
Maybe not too late if you need to go back to stock for warranty purposs though eh?! ;-)
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Yeah good point. I was / am so chuffed at getting the phone rooted I forgot about what I was worried about before
If things go bad I will be all over this forum for info on how to go back to stock

buachaille said:
Yeah good point. I was / am so chuffed at getting the phone rooted I forgot about what I was worried about before
If things go bad I will be all over this forum for info on how to go back to stock
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Lol that's sort of how it goes. You can check out the development section for some guides on just how to return to stock. If you can't find the links check the stickied thread about roms themes and kernels
Sent from my MattedBlues CM7 Google Nexus S!

kenvan19 said:
Lol that's sort of how it goes. You can check out the development section for some guides on just how to return to stock. If you can't find the links check the stickied thread about roms themes and kernels
Sent from my MattedBlues CM7 Google Nexus S!
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Yeah its in the Nandroid Backup of 2.3.1, just grab that and nandroid restore and you're back to stock.

buachaille said:
If things go bad I will be all over this forum for info on how to go back to stock
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errrm, it's in the thread I linked to ;-p

xspyda said:
errrm, it's in the thread I linked to ;-p
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Thanks, I was too involved in getting new rooted phone setup last night that i wasn't reading posts very thoroughly.

Only answers

Please if its been posted,tell me where and ill read it but a quick search revealed nothing. I just picked up my inspire and when I check for HTC update it shows there is one. Do I need to update before rooting? Also what changes are there as far as any major steps to flashing a Rom. Like if I want inspired ace can I just root,flash recovery and install Rom? Or does the bootloaders need to be flashed before flashing a gingerbread Rom? Sorry for the 838393 million questions but I'm a long time Samsung user lol,I know my way around rooting and flashing but I know HTC phones can be a little different
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brd912 said:
Please if its been posted,tell me where and ill read it but a quick search revealed nothing. I just picked up my inspire and when I check for HTC update it shows there is one. Do I need to update before rooting? Also what changes are there as far as any major steps to flashing a Rom. Like if I want inspired ace can I just root,flash recovery and install Rom? Or does the bootloaders need to be flashed before flashing a gingerbread Rom? Sorry for the 838393 million questions but I'm a long time Samsung user lol,I know my way around rooting and flashing but I know HTC phones can be a little different
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No. You Do not need to update first.
Read the sticky at the top of the forum for the rest. There you will get only answers.

tweaked said:
No. You Do not need to update first.
Read the sticky at the top of the forum for the rest. There you will get only answers.
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hahahaha
anyway, like he said do that .. as far as the update first or not:
you can flash whatever radio you want after you are done rooting; for me i rooted before the OTA, but for wifey we did the update first.. it doesn't matter, as the info will be destroyed during the root anyway.
you cannot OTA after root from what i gather, as i was never offered the update as i was rooted

tweaked said:
No. You Do not need to update first.
Read the sticky at the top of the forum for the rest. There you will get only answers.
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Lol sorry for putting it like that. It's just sometimes someones question sounds like one that's been answered already,but they mean it in a different specific way. Here lately people have been a little rude about the whole "its been answered" but really I just have a hard time explaining exactly what I mean in text. I don't mind reading the stickies but sometimes it gets confusing if you are new to a device and don't know what stage the development is at lol. But thanks man,ill go read the stickies and if I have any problems ill just post back here lol. Appreciate the kind answer
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brd912 said:
Lol sorry for putting it like that. It's just sometimes someones question sounds like one that's been answered already,but they mean it in a different specific way. Here lately people have been a little rude about the whole "its been answered" but really I just have a hard time explaining exactly what I mean in text. I don't mind reading the stickies but sometimes it gets confusing if you are new to a device and don't know what stage the development is at lol. But thanks man,ill go read the stickies and if I have any problems ill just post back here lol. Appreciate the kind answer
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Well don't take it to harshly most are just sarcastic. I mean I am just sarcastic.

What doesn't help is when you can't truly tell for sure if its a playful sarcasm or mean sarcasm. It sometimes is hard to tell considering we are talking to each other in text form. There have been some posts I've read, not by you, but others, that I couldnt particularly tell if they were being mean or just being a smart @ss just to mess with someone without offending. I just wanna say something to the ones who have meant there sarcasm in a mean way. My wife's cousin coined these 2 phrases, and I like using them a lot. "Can't we all just smoke a bong!" And, "Life's a ***** and then you die, f*** the world let's get high!" Lmao ;D
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

My favorite method is to apply the OTA and then use Gingerbreak. Chainfire is a fantastic developer and I used gingerbreak to install rom manager, flash CWM, and get your flashing on.

[Q] How to upgrade from Froyo 2.2 to Gingerbread 2.3.3 / 2.3.4 my HTC Inspire 4G ?

Hi fellas, YEAH !! I"m just a nob
I just bought my first Android Phone, yes....left behind my Iphone 3GS to get into the Real Game now ! ;-)
So, would you people help me know a bit more about this? I need to know how to upgrade my HTC Inspire 4G, from Froyo 2.2 to Gingerbread 2.3.3 or 2.3.4
Thanks all of you beforehand,
RUben.

At this point, root is the only way. View the stickie, as it has the two root methods, and read read read. Start with reading the root method threads and decide which you want to go with. The key is, don' t be in a hurry to root until you have a fair understanding of what you will be doing.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

also please post in the proper section, as this is the general topic, and not the Q&A

Read this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Then read this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Then Read this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Yes they are all the same link. yes you should read it three times.

tweaked said:
Read this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Then read this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Then Read this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Yes they are all the same link. yes you should read it three times.
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LMAO. Good advice. Ad always.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using the power of the dark side.

tweaked said:
Read this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Then read this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Then Read this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Yes they are all the same link. yes you should read it three times.
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And now that this has been quoted twice as well, make it 9 times.

Oh Thanks !! Well, I know the root process is the fact that being gaining admin access within the device, in order to make any kind of changes at the kernel level or anything else right ?
Now, my device is unlocked, that necessary means it's also rooted ?
Thanks,
Ruben
fernandezhjr said:
At this point, root is the only way. View the stickie, as it has the two root methods, and read read read. Start with reading the root method threads and decide which you want to go with. The key is, don' t be in a hurry to root until you have a fair understanding of what you will be doing.
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Oh Thanks! and Yeah, that was the first post I'd read when I came into this cool website... The thing is, the guide is amazing, and those two ways to root the device seems great !! it's just that, what else after that ? I'm talking about being upgrading to Gingerbread, let's think the bases are ready (rooted, flashed, unlocked..) so then what ? should I download something and use some king of soft to upgrade my Inspire ? You know, I know all about Iphone and the way to jailbreak and unlock and upgraded and so on, but NOTHING about android.. as I said, I'm just starting.. Thanks a lot for all the advises... And SORRY for being posting this on the wrong thread!
Thanks,
Ruben,

rubendleon said:
The thing is, the guide is amazing, and those two ways to root the device seems great !! it's just that, what else after that ? I'm talking about being upgrading to Gingerbread, let's think the bases are ready (rooted, flashed, unlocked..) so then what ?
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Upon reading it, did you miss the part about flashing a rom? Since you want Gingerbread you will need to instal one. Hence the how to instal a rom portion.
The Inspire forums have many subforums. one of them is the dev forum. This would be your next reading material. But I suggest you read the guide again. Good luck.

Oh.. I got it !! The flashing process is basically the installation of a "firmware" into the phone, which would be in this case a gingerbread.
Thanks !
tweaked said:
Upon reading it, did you miss the part about flashing a rom? Since you want Gingerbread you will need to instal one. Hence the how to instal a rom portion.
The Inspire forums have many subforums. one of them is the dev forum. This would be your next reading material. But I suggest you read the guide again. Good luck.
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rubendleon said:
Oh.. I got it !! The flashing process is basically the installation of a "firmware" into the phone, which would be in this case a gingerbread.
Thanks !
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There are quite a few good GB Roms available. I prefer Pure so I use an AOSP Gingerbread rom, but there are sense ones too.
See My Sig and many other users here for their personal set ups. And of Couse I stress the reading. Te Dev forum has so much.

rubendleon said:
Oh.. I got it !! The flashing process is basically the installation of a "firmware" into the phone, which would be in this case a gingerbread.
Thanks !
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Rom/kernel = gingerbread or whatever (froyo, etc.)
Though there obviously hasn't been an official inspire gingerbread release, what you'll find in the dev section has been modified as required from the gingerbread release for the desire hd, pretty much the same phone.
There's a lot of them. Most of the newer ones are based on gingerbread.

Just keep on reading and u will find all the answers you need. It's s privalge to have s answer given to you without reading lol trust me I know lol
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[Q] How do i install gingerbread on my new Samsung Infuse 4G??

i need help installing gingerbread, on my new infuse. so i can install newer roms / updated roms for the infuse thanks.

Please search.... There are plenty of threads on how to do it.
Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G - 1.6ghz

And post questions in the Q+A section.

Casey1027 said:
i need help installing gingerbread, on my new infuse. so i can install newer roms / updated roms for the infuse thanks.
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seriously? come on dude.. can u read?

JordanElliott said:
seriously? come on dude.. can u read?
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Um I can read i cant find nothing about gingerbread on here so, i guess ill just install the Infused rom, without gingerbread cuz theres no even a gingerbread update out yet if there is then be nice enough an post a link.....

Casey1027 said:
Um I can read i cant find nothing about gingerbread on here so, i guess ill just install the Infused rom, without gingerbread cuz theres no even a gingerbread update out yet if there is then be nice enough an post a link.....
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well. obviously u cant http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220088 and dont be such an ass about it

JordanElliott said:
well. obviously u cant http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220088 and dont be such an ass about it
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Thanks, i installed it, now how do i install the gingerbread kernal ? do i just install like normal ?

Casey1027 said:
Thanks, i installed it, now how do i install the gingerbread kernal ? do i just install like normal ?
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http://androidforums.com/captivate-all-things-root/297766-sgs-kernel-flasher-tutorial.html
noobs.

Casey1027 said:
Thanks, i installed it, now how do i install the gingerbread kernal ? do i just install like normal ?
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put the kernel on your sd card and flash from CWM and you will be fine bro.
people here should be nice and direct not throw comments out there then say OP is being an Ass that's what drives people away from the forum.

Someone post him the YouTube link.
Its noobtastic.
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JordanElliott said:
http://androidforums.com/captivate-all-things-root/297766-sgs-kernel-flasher-tutorial.html
noobs.
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Remember where you came from you were there one day yourself. and you were a NooB all us have been there one time our another

XDA should update the site so that new users cannot create new threads in the DEV forums.

SolusCado said:
XDA should update the site so that new users cannot create new threads in the DEV forums.
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+1 on that but a little redirection is nice too. they don't know how it works here hence NooB

Rotary Parts said:
Remember where you came from you were there one day yourself. and you were a NooB
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not really. all i did was follow the instructions. my dad was a computer programmer. it all comes easy to me.

JordanElliott said:
not really. all i did was follow the instructions. my dad was a computer programmer. it all comes easy to me.
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Ok like me gifted my wife is a graphic designer and code writer dang it!! so she taught me Lol

well thanks for the people that helped im new to the infuse roms/ and rooting i had an inspire an knew everything about it. so thanks

Rotary Parts said:
+1 on that but a little redirection is nice too. they don't know how it works here hence NooB
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They could just have an error screen explaining why they can't post. Let them know they have to be a member for certain amount of time, or there could even be a kind of peer review, where existing developers can vouch for the new member.

SolusCado said:
XDA should update the site so that new users cannot create new threads in the DEV forums.
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I thought this was already the case.
Questions like this should be asked in the Q&A forum. Period.
Also, one should spend time reading the first 1-2 pages of each forum, ESPECIALLY sticky threads before posting. It is obviously clear that the original poster did not spend ANY time reading.
I was a noob once too - but I took the time to do my research and spent an evening or two browsing threads and learning when I first flashed my HTC Tilt. Same for when I bought my Tilt2. Same for when I bought my Huawei S7, and same for when I bought my Infuse and Tab 10.1.
The "teach a man to fish" proverb applies here. If you just handhold a user, they will never learn anything. If you force them to spend some time reading threads, they'll start learning how to educate themselves and learn a new device without asking questions about stuff that is widely documented.

Rotary Parts said:
Remember where you came from you were there one day yourself. and you were a NooB all us have been there one time our another
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That's no excuse! I've been in this game for years and have learned almost everything I know simply by reading. If I can do it so can the noobs. Period. This guy deserves everything and anything he gets. I'm with Entropy. They must be forced to learn!
I'd say "ok guys back to topic" but instead I'll say "crap, here comes Neo again!"

Agreed.
A bit of reading would help everyone. Generally speaking, most questions have probably been asked before and even if they haven't; it is best to search anyway because you might stumble across the answer.
I'm all about being helpful, but constantly coddling people while they do the wrong thing isn't helping anyone. I want us to have a large user base so that our development continues to expand, but not just so that we have a lot of ignorant people running around posting the same thing over and over without doing a bit of searching.
It isn't as if this post was some desperate call for help because their phone stopped working after installing a ROM. It was just someone being lazy.

[Q] How to get out of Bootloader

I have an AT&T HTC One X, with android 4.1.1. I had been scouring the internet for about three weeks now trying to figure out how to Unlock the bootloader. I finally figured it out. Then I did a perm root, applying superuserSU and i tried to flash CyenogenMod 10.0.0, and i got stuck in the CyenogenMod 10 loader. So i went back, and cleared the cache and data and dalvik. Then it loaded, and it started at the home scree. It didn't take me through a set up or anything. Then I tried to touch the screen, and it wasn't responsive. I tried re-applying it and what not, and then it just stopped working, the CWM Recovery kept saying it E: Cant Mount /sdcard, and it would have a long list of things it couldn't mount (which was litterally everything, and now I'm trying to just reset it to the stock HTC so i can try again. Can any one walk me through how to reset it?

And this is what happens when you don't read and start doing **** without knowing what you're doing.
So lazy.
If you do enough research in this forum to tell me why your touchscreen didn't work in cyanogenmod. I'll help you get your phone working again.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Not to be rude but OP i agree with exad. You didnt do any reading or research. You didnt ask questions first. But I'll get you to a working phone.
Just go to twrp again. Download viperXL. "Mount" in twrp and drag viperxl onto phone and flash that. You'll boot
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InflatedTitan said:
Not to be rude but OP i agree with exad. You didnt do any reading or research. You didnt ask questions first. But I'll get you to a working phone.
Just go to twrp again. Download viperXL. "Mount" in twrp and drag viperxl onto phone and flash that. You'll boot
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Pft inflatedtitan is nicer than me
Avoid cwm it has low compatibility for the one xl. twrp 2.3.3.1 or below is recommended. (but that won't fix cm touchscreen issue)

You guys are the everyday superheros
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exad said:
Pft inflatedtitan is nicer than me
Avoid cwm it has low compatibility for the one xl. twrp 2.3.3.1 or below is recommended. (but that won't fix cm touchscreen issue)
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Then what will? I know, I was overly eager and crap. I get that, but i posted here for help. Not criticism. I'm used to working with Samsung, and Apple. But if you can help, please just say it and don't direct me to another page.

trevon2698 said:
Then what will? I know, I was overly eager and crap. I get that, but i posted here for help. Not criticism. I'm used to working with Samsung, and Apple. But if you can help, please just say it and don't direct me to another page.
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Touchscreen issues are to do with HTC changing the drivers for newer 4.1.1 ROMs. What you want to do is downgrade the touchpanel firmware using h8rift's excellent guide. That downgraded touchpanel firmware will then work with all ROMs and also with newer TWRPs. I'm running 2.5.0.0 with no dramas here.

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Touchscreen issues are to do with HTC changing the drivers for newer 4.1.1 ROMs. What you want to do is downgrade the touchpanel firmware using h8rift's excellent guide. That downgraded touchpanel firmware will then work with all ROMs and also with newer TWRPs. I'm running 2.5.0.0 with no dramas here.
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Thank you! Finally some help.

trevon2698 said:
Thank you! Finally some help.
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Also the reason you boot looped in the first place was due to htc's infamous "s-on" security feature. While s-on, you are required to fastboot any img file instead of flashing through recovery. Examples are splash screens, kernels, recovery imgs. If you also follow the super easy s-off thread, this will allow your phone to surpass any security checks, allowing you to simply flash anything you want.
So until you s-off, you have to flash the ROM then immediately boot into boot loader and fastboot flash the boot.img. then the rom will boot up just fine
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trevon2698 said:
Thank you! Finally some help.
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No worries. If this stuff doesn't seem easy, it is because it isn't. There are no user manuals, support systems or helpdesks. All of us on here are just a community of like minded people. We encourage new members and especially those who are eager to read, learn and contribute.
Good luck with your phone, you will love what you can do with it!

juicejuice said:
No worries. If this stuff doesn't seem easy, it is because it isn't. There are no user manuals, support systems or helpdesks. All of us on here are just a community of like minded people. We encourage new members and especially those who are eager to read, learn and contribute.
Good luck with your phone, you will love what you can do with it!
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I dissagree entirely. It is easy. If it seems hard, the only reason would be that one did not have the patience to do a little light reading beforehand. And when you flat out give responses to easy questions it only encourages ignorance. The touchscreen issue is posted in just about all aosp Rom op and in stickies and a search would have brought up at least 10 threads with the issue documented aswell.

Honestly it is easy, but there's a lot to learn and watch out for so it can easily be overwhelming. After you toy around with it and see what command does what, what to flash, how to flash it, it gets a lot easier. Just lurk here often and learn the terminology and you'll be successful. You may get called a dumbass but that's because a lot of users here are really sick of people asking the same questions over and over, or they're just blatent idiots.
PS. Use the latest Nightly of CM 10.1, the new 3.4 kernel is supposed to be really slick.
Also, flash the 2.3.3.0 version of TWRP, versions 2.4 and above seem to have problems.
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Thanks guys. Like I said before. I'm new to the whole HTC world of modding. Its much different from The GS3 and iPhone 5. I have my phone. Wroking, and I'm running CyanogenMod 10.1 and I have S-Off. Thanks again.
PS. Dude. If you don't want to help, you sound like your so important, so go find some thing better to do if you can't be helpful.
Sent from my One X using xda premium

trevon2698 said:
PS. Dude. If you don't want to help, you sound like your so important, so go find some thing better to do if you can't be helpful.
Sent from my One X using xda premium
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Who exactly is that in reference to?
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timmaaa said:
Who exactly is that in reference to?
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I think he means me D:
I don't think people like it when I point out their lazyness and that they need to read more.
Searching before posting is encouraged here on xda. There are stickies with forum rules indicating so. It's not that I don't want to help people. I just don't want to answer the same questions over and over because lazy people can't take the time to search or check the faq.
No one here is getting paid to help. So do the entire xda community a favor and help yourself first. Then, if after searching and reading through some stickies you still don't know the answer. then post your question.
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exad said:
I think he means me D:
I don't think people like it when I point out their lazyness and that they need to read more.
Searching before posting is encouraged here on xda. There are stickies with forum rules indicating so. It's not that I don't want to help people. I just don't want to answer the same questions over and over because lazy people can't take the time to search or check the faq.
No one here is getting paid to help. So do the entire xda community a favor and help yourself first. Then, if after searching and reading through some stickies you still don't know the answer. then post your question.
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Oh that sad face seems so sincere
Yeah that's what I had suspected. I was going to fire up haha. I agree with you 100% man.
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