Upcoming Sense 2.1 (video of Desire S included)! - HTC Desire S

Social fans, get ready!

I don't like sense. Yust my opinion, but you were asking for it right
I do like some features of it, but mostly i like my ROM clean (like CM)

No, I was asking if you think it's Sense 3.0 on that screenshot.

Terepin said:
No, I was asking if you think it's Sense 3.0 on that screenshot.
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Ok, then is was misinterpreting
If it indeed is Sense 3.0, i have no idea. But is looks like an original. If i am right, the Sense interface is protected by HTC.

looks like the same sense that is used on the Desire Z/HD
With my understanding should be sense 2.0?

That's photoshop'd - why would HTC put new Sense on a Wildfire before any of the high end devices??

It could be a custom creation, but i doubt it that HTC would like that.

EddyOS said:
That's photoshop'd - why would HTC put new Sense on a Wildfire before any of the high end devices??
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That's not Wildfire, but Wildfire 2.
As for Sense, there are distinguishing features on launcher:
1. 1.0 -> Up arrow | Phone | Plus button
2. 2.0 -> Up arrow | Phone | Customization button
3. ?3.0 -> List button | Phone | Customization button
Of course, it could be updated Sense 2, maybe 2.5.

Still doesn't mean it's not super imposed onto it does it?
Promo videos always show things off that aren't real

looks like it could be more of a hack than an update (or photoshop as suggested)

No, not fake:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-wildfire-2-spotted-promotional-video

Saw this pic as well might just be a lower end version on new sense or 3.0
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Terepin said:
No, not fake:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-wildfire-2-spotted-promotional-video
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So you believe everything you see on TV and in the movies??
As I said, likely to be super-imposed - until I see a functioning handset and video proof I'll assume it's not real

Also without optical trackpad like the new desire 2, too bad i don't use it often but sometimes i really need it.

Lothaen said:
looks like it could be more of a hack than an update (or photoshop as suggested)
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why would HTC do that? That >>Video<< was posted under their official account on youtube...

Tillus said:
why would HTC do that? That >>Video<< was posted under their official account on youtube...
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I only just saw that and came back to this thread to put that link up myself!
Didn't see the ad/know about it till just now

It's pretty clear it ain't fake. So the only question remains: Is it upgraded Sense 2 or brand new Sense 3? We will find out after week or so.

Sense "2.0" most likely.

Seriously, what makes this real?? Heard of concept designs??
As I said, until I see a fully working handset being demo'd in a video I will consider this a marketing venture and nothing more. You guys keep believing it's real...it's like me editing a home screen and taking a picture and going "yeah look at my new Sense 20.1"

fregor said:
Sense "2.0" most likely.
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Could be, however after scouring the internet for articles about weather the origional HTC Desire was going to get the HTC Desire HD Sense update, I couldn't find a thing. So I did what no one dares do, and sent an E-Mail to HTC. Surprisingly, this is the reply I got.
Dear Michael James Stott,
Thank you for contacting HTC, regarding the HTC Sense.
Sense at the moment is only incorporated into our newer devices as we aim to show progression. However when the updates come in from Google for us to configure. There will often be some suprises in the update but the software engineers wont even tell us as its all network depended.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11GBCW07ENA001487.
Sincerely,
Mohammed
HTC
Now although 'Mohammed' hasn't confirmed anything there, surely it looks promising and its better than a template reply of 'we are not allowed to comment' or whatever they put?

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to all you Sense UI haters...

HTC evo can run (out of the box) stock android w/ nexus launcher and all.
http://htcdev.net/topic/11584-sprint-evo-4g-working-without-sense-ui/
I don't know if this has been posted before, since I'm in a rush to prom I havent been able to check. anyways, htc has done another thing right. yay! haha
1. There is already a topic about this.
2. There is NO WAY to run the phone without Sense UI without installing a custom ROM. Sense UI is highly integrated into the OS. The video that you see is the EVO running launcher2.apk instead of Rosie.apk (the Sense home app). This is nothing new or exciting, so I wish people would stop making damn topics about it.
Hey man, you gotta understand i didnt search and couldnt search. Also, i know you cant completely replace sense ui on a stock rom but some people like the launcher2.apk better. So sorry for double posting bud
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Sense FTW. Me no likey regular android homescreen . Ah well. If you wanna fly MiGs.. You fly MiG Alley. If you want HTC sexiness, you gotta get Sense
Sense FTW. Me no likey regular android homescreen . Ah well. If you wanna fly MiGs.. You fly MiG Alley. If you want HTC sexiness, you gotta get Sense
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I always used to hate sense, but then after looking very close at this phone, I have to admit i love it now! Just getting more and more psyched for this phone every time i see it. I think if everyone took their time to look in to sense ui, they would end up liking it a lot like myself.
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I always used to hate sense, but then after looking very close at this phone, I have to admit i love it now! Just getting more and more psyched for this phone every time i see it. I think if everyone took their time to look in to sense ui, they would end up liking it a lot like myself.
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For many this is true. For others, I suspect there are multiple motivations for wanting a pure android. I suspect most fall into one or more of 3 categories.
They may want pure as the driven snow Open Source Android
They might want as few of what they don't need as possible for increased resources
They simply don't like the HTC and it's prettiness
To each his own. As long as you're on Android, we are on the same side. Viva La Evo! Viva Android! Death to Apple!
I like Android Sense. Makes the transition from WM6.5 Sense a lot smother for me
I dont think anyone would deny that fact that Sense looks amazing. I just want to shut it off to save my battery. From what i hear, sense is quite the juice hog.
gmelchert said:
Hey man, you gotta understand i didnt search and couldnt search. Also, i know you cant completely replace sense ui on a stock rom but some people like the launcher2.apk better. So sorry for double posting bud
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what do you mean you couldn't search? at this moment their are only 4 threads in this section, all you had to do was open your eyes.
slacker76 said:
I dont think anyone would deny that fact that Sense looks amazing. I just want to shut it off to save my battery. From what i hear, sense is quite the juice hog.
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You won't save much battery if you turn Sense off. Unless you just have pages full of self updating widgets or something.
love the 2.1 UI.im GOING for that instead of the SENSE
Yeah... I'm looking forward to a stock froyo EVO as soon as possible... best of luck to those with the skill to make it happen
Or at least sense with the stock 2.2 launcher. I actually like the default contacts and messaging apps for sense. Not to mention the clock is way better too, and camera has tap to focus. One thing AOSP has for me though is the look, the white and orange are very appeasing for some reason.
im jus hopeing HTC keeps their promise of updating the SUPERSONIC in july to FROYO 2.2(love the UI).gonna love the phone even more.
GHOST99K said:
im jus hopeing HTC keeps their promise of updating the SUPERSONIC in july to FROYO 2.2(love the UI).gonna love the phone even more.
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I don't think they promised anything at any date, other than that most handsets made after 2010 will get 2.2... no specific dates were set..maybe i am wrong and please link me if i am..
Nvm found the answer.
setite said:
... If you want HTC sexiness, you gotta get Sense
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hhmm, goofy quote, I'll say that.
HTC Sense is "attractive", but not for everyone.
The first time I played with Sense was on a Hero ROM on my G1. Then again with the Desire ROM on my Nexus.
Even with the Nexus speed increase, it was definitely NOT sexy.
I really like the Plain Jane look of Androidâ„¢ raw.
setite said:
For many this is true. For others, I suspect there are multiple motivations for wanting a pure android. I suspect most fall into one or more of 3 categories.
They may want pure as the driven snow Open Source Android
They might want as few of what they don't need as possible for increased resources
They simply don't like the HTC and it's prettiness
To each his own. As long as you're on Android, we are on the same side. Viva La Evo! Viva Android! Death to Apple!
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si si, Viva la EVO y la Android, death to Apple?
But I like picking on my iPhoney friends!!!

Drag and Drop Lock Screen

Hey Guys
are there any plans to include the drag and drop lock screen on any upcoming roms? saw it in the thunderbolt review and really like the look but cant seem to get any info about it
cheers
matt
is there a link to what your talking about?
thejoose said:
Hey Guys
are there any plans to include the drag and drop lock screen on any upcoming roms? saw it in the thunderbolt review and really like the look but cant seem to get any info about it
cheers
matt
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No. Wrong forum.
Are u referring to Sense 3.0?
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Sorry not Thunderbolt - Sensation
link to the video I saw it on is here
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-first-video-hands-on/
thejoose said:
Sorry not Thunderbolt - Sensation
link to the video I saw it on is here
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-first-video-hands-on/
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That is the Sense UI 3.0 Lockscreen.
It cant be included just like that in any other ROM without Sense 3.0, since its dependant on the Sense 3.0 Framework.
Currently Sense 3.0 is being ported to various HTC Devices, but since HTC introduced a new file format ".m10", which includes all the Layout-Data like position, scale and animation data for all the Sense Elements, it requires quite some coding work to get an ".m10-Editor" to fix the current resolution and position issues.
So, only way to get this new Lockscreen, we have to wait until Sense 3.0 has been officially "cracked open"
Brilliant thanks for the reply
And that's the answer.
Closed.

AOSP for Desire S

i did start this thread in the general section when i had fewer than 10 posts, so sorry about the repost.
i have been wondering if any work has been done porting aosp to the desire s or if anyone could point me to the proper tutorials on how to do it, though i will have little time to work on it during the next 3 months or so.
cheers
Ep1cF4il said:
i did start this thread in the general section when i had fewer than 10 posts, so sorry about the repost.
i have been wondering if any work has been done porting aosp to the desire s or if anyone could point me to the proper tutorials on how to do it, though i will have little time to work on it during the next 3 months or so.
cheers
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cm7 for incredible s is on the way. i think, it will complete for desire s in 1 month too.
proxuser said:
cm7 for incredible s is on the way. i think, it will complete for desire s in 1 month too.
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it would indeed seem that way. just pulled the cm sources to see if adding a new device wasn't too hard a task and it seems there already has been some work done towards porting it to the saga (aka desire s). finally some good news
Hope the port for Saga comes soon. Really look forward to getting rid of Sense.
rubbish said:
Hope the port for Saga comes soon. Really look forward to getting rid of Sense.
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as do i...
rubbish said:
...Really look forward to getting rid of Sense...
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as do i...
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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for hardware?
i'm waiting for aosp too
Hmm... It is pretty great piece of hardware but Sense is great IMO (and no, I'm not an HTC employee )
deadwilder said:
for hardware?
i'm waiting for aosp too
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NexuS has pretty same hardware. Even better cam..
I sold NexuS because I missed some of the sense things:
the stock dialer has NO t9 search - most dialer from market are crap or slow or somehow frickled on the stock dialer. Even old nokia do have a quick search option...
Stock contacts are ugly.
GAL (global adress list for exchange server) is NOT implemented in android 2.x - only in 3.0; but it's implemented since sense1 (hero)
CM had some issues - espacially with the notification bar/speed settings - on 2.3 - the new sense 3.0 lockscreen and notification bar are very good - so no need for CM at the moment - for _me_
So I deleted most of sense.apk from /system on my DesireS (all widgets, all "htc", like route66, amazon, stockexchange..) and do use adw-launcher instead of rosie (don't delete it cause is needed for lockscreen settings!) - but do have integrated company exchange and a good biult in dialer, cool contacts (with flickr and fb content) and nice lockscreen..
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NexuS has pretty same hardware. Even better cam..
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there was one thing i didn't like about the nexus s. had i been able to use my 32GB microsd card, i would've gone for the nexus s.
Dr.Romca said:
Hmm... It is pretty great piece of hardware but Sense is great IMO (and no, I'm not an HTC employee )
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Sense is THE BEST ANDROID UI, EVAR. Don't know why people wanna "DE-SENSE" their phones. I'm gonna flash CM7 to see what the fuss is about , but sense 3.0 first Hopefully, the new official version of CM7 will come for DS too. I'd rather let the ports pass on...........
to each their own. i'm still waiting to see someone make a WebOS like UI for android ^^
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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In my case I obviously liked the phone much enough to neglect my dislike towards Sense
I don't complain about having Sense and can live with it but would prefer to run clean Android build when/if it becomes available.
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to each their own. i'm still waiting to see someone make a WebOS like UI for android ^^
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That would be EPIC !!!!!!!!!!!
shrome99 said:
That would be EPIC !!!!!!!!!!!
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i was sorta kidding, but yes it would be. so would an actual port of WebOS
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i was sorta kidding, but yes it would be. so would an actual port of WebOS
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I get the sarcasm, but well, imo WebOS is a really good os. It's too new and has veeeeerrry less apps. In abou 1-2 years maybe, it'll become as good as android is today.
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shrome99 said:
I get the sarcasm, but well, imo WebOS is a really good os. It's too new and has veeeeerrry less apps. In abou 1-2 years maybe, it'll become as good as android is today.
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had there been better WebOS devices on the market, i would probably have bought one of those instead. i've been told that app development is a lot easier than on any other platform. and as soon as i get some time, i might just look into writing apps for android.
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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There's plenty of HTC phones out there that are running custom ROMs and customised user interfaces that don't rely on Sense. It may be the "out of the box experience" as far as most HTC phones are concerned, but isn't that what all THIS (ie these forums) is about - customisations, and thinking "out of the box"? (no pun intended, haha).
If we all concentrated on Sense and variations on that theme then this community would be a much poorer one.
Peace
sense ftw!
Well, i love sense, but i am porting the cm7 just so people have the choose, and also to make the development on this device more alive
But personally, Sense is the thing!

HTC Rhyme vs. HTC Desire S

http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-rhyme/#specs
Viewing the specs, it's very similar to DS.
But, its battery is non-detachable.
Is this an indirect way to recognise that removing battery may be dangerous?
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http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-rhyme/#specs Viewing the specs, it's very similar to DS. But, its battery is non-detachable.
Is this an indirect way to recognise that removing battery may be dangerous?
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Well spotted, I'd say without a doubt, the battery is also a little larger at 1600Mhz!
I do hope someday there will be a bigger battery sold by HTC for us
Looks like a girly phone
It is a girly phone
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Phone or TAMPON!
It looks like a girls phone because it is!
It's certainly a girls phone look at the press, they even have a ladies voice rather than the normal Man!
The advert sounds like one for a tampon (watch the video and listen to the audio and you'll see exactly what I mean)!
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It looks like a girls phone because it is!
It's certainly a girls phone look at the press, they even have a ladies voice rather than the normal Man!
The advert sounds like one for a tampon (watch the video and listen to the audio and you'll see exactly what I mean)!
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I've heard the ROM becomes unstable if you look at another phone!
Rofl
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it has sense 3.5, if its the same spec as DS, why arent hey releasing 3.5 on DS?
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it has sense 3.5, if its the same spec as DS, why arent hey releasing 3.5 on DS?
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It's not the full sense 3.5 it's a lightweight version for real sense 3.5 see Runnymede leaks ROM.
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it has sense 3.5, if its the same spec as DS, why arent hey releasing 3.5 on DS?
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i'm pretty sure they still have to release sense 3.0 before they can release sense 3.5 for the desire s!!!
The ugly cousin of the Desire S.
ben_pyett said:
It looks like a girls phone because it is!
It's certainly a girls phone look at the press, they even have a ladies voice rather than the normal Man!
The advert sounds like one for a tampon (watch the video and listen to the audio and you'll see exactly what I mean)!
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Have you seen there's a man using white version... seems like purple is for girls and white for mens...
Are there any plans in the works for someone to Root the Rhyme? I bought one for my wife, and provided she likes it, would like to be able to Root it so I can do App restores as well as be able to back the Rhyme up properly.
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Are there any plans in the works for someone to Root the Rhyme? I bought one for my wife, and provided she likes it, would like to be able to Root it so I can do App restores as well as be able to back the Rhyme up properly.
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You can't know such things in advance...
It's really similar= =
My wife got one of these yesterday. Not a bad phone other than the colour, nothing special specs wise but she doesn't need anything amazing.
Comes with a really nice dock -- I wish more manufacturers would do that.
No Rhyme section I notice.
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lol
well, how could a girl restart it without an pulling-out?
I love my Desire S
Not being able to change the battery is pretty rubbish imo, limits your options, they should just make/design phones where you can pull the battery without frying the sodding emmc!!

[DISCUSS] Sense 3.6 with Android 4.0 ICS

Hello fellow XDA-Dev Desire S owners.
So, it seems, that the upcoming FOTA update for the Desire S(Saga) will not feature the Sense 4.0, instead of it, we will be getting the Sense 3.6 and with it we will lose the beloved Sense 3 bottom menu bar in the stock HTC Sense skin and it will be replaced by the hideous "box" layout of the newer Sense UI
For me, that was enough of a reason to flash my Desire S and install the Endymion V3.5 ROM.
What do other XDA-Dev users think about this "update"?
This has been known for a while and to be honest I'm fine with it. In fact we're lucky to be receiving an update. If I were HTC I'd do the same. If old phones are updated to sense 4.0, who's going to buy new phones? Business is business.
I think the look is much sleeker as well. I prefer it
Also it may just be easier to stick to the off topic thread
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I love the "box" (how u call it)
I always didnt like sense... this changed with sense 3.6 and 4
Written in bad english with my HTC Desire S
Afraid you may be alone disliking the 'box', I think it's a great step forward, making proper use of the screen space, with more icons
And as already said afraid that this is old news
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KristjanJ said:
Hello fellow XDA-Dev Desire S owners.
So, it seems, that the upcoming FOTA update for the Desire S(Saga) will not feature the Sense 4.0, instead of it, we will be getting the Sense 3.6 and with it we will lose the beloved Sense 3 bottom menu bar in the stock HTC Sense skin and it will be replaced by the hideous "box" layout of the newer Sense UI
For me, that was enough of a reason to flash my Desire S and install the Endymion V3.5 ROM.
What do other XDA-Dev users think about this "update"?
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For 1 the new ICS dock bar looks NOTHING like you described and as you pictured. our bar goes all the way to end of the screens. the 1 u pictured is sense 4a our new bar is elegant and beautiful. most people are glad to get rid of that old sense bar. For me its all about moving on and the newer the better. if u want the beautiful stock GB bar then DONT bother upgrading. Or u can simply mod your rom to have the old dock bar dont open a thread just to slag off a rom you clearly know NOTHING about
IMHO...Its nice with the newer looks..u get a lot of customisation option here...create shortcuts and folders...earlier sense seems liked it didn't used the screenspace provided..
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Ummm... yeah, so?
No offence, but this is stale news by now... this thread was opened as a result of the thread you linked, so i think you're either trying to make a mysterious valid point that i fail to see... or you're generally clueless about what's been happening here since the Virtuous_Saga ROM was announced. Or maybe it's just update fever??
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Ummm... yeah, so?
No offence, but this is stale news by now... this thread was opened as a result of the thread you linked, so i think you're either trying to make a mysterious valid point that i fail to see... or you're generally clueless about what's been happening here since the Virtuous_Saga ROM was announced. Or maybe it's just update fever??
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off topic:
I suspect that's it's update fever, it does appear that people have gone a little crazy since the latest leak, football must be HTC employee!
If everyone else updates another thread with that latest virtuous thread link I swear I'll explode
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Update fever, sorry guys
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Love the new ui
Been running the Primo 3.5 for some time and loving it. Then for a few weeks ago i reverted back to a 3.5 sense rom to get camera working. Even thou it runs and feels nice i think the new UI is nicer and more smothe.
One X is the **** but Desire S is the bombe
Just installed yesterday the Virtuous Saga 1.0.0, 'till now everything is perfect I could say, I'm navigating on the internet on wireless and listening to some music for about 2h, the battery went down only to 99%, I will come back in a few days with a (hopefully) positive feedback.
I'm running on a S-ON HTCDS unlocked with HTCDEV
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ToXiC313 said:
Just installed yesterday the Virtuous Saga 1.0.0, 'till now everything is perfect I could say, I'm navigating on the internet on wireless and listening to some music for about 2h, the battery went down only to 99%, I will come back in a few days with a (hopefully) positive feedback.
I'm running on a S-ON HTCDS unlocked with HTCDEV
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Think that the HTC update is a great thing that they are doing, too many times people are moaning that they cant get the updated version.
You can always run a Virtuous one though or even the the AOKP Ver 36 from tectas that is amazing
Why bother with Sense 3.6 if we have Nova Launcher? It's much more fast then this HTC bloatware named Sense.
I think the best idea for this thread, is to change the title to discussion of Sense 3.6 in general. That way more of us can engage into conversation, talking about bugs, and what we'd like tweaks we'd like to see implemented in future releases.
looks forward to it very much
Personally i loved the update, the battery is simply amazing and the issues that i was having with the usb are gone (flaky usb, when switching modes i had to click it thrice, regardless of ROM) the performance is swell and i think the camera quality ~might~ be better?
Even if we don't like sense 3.6, it just means that we're going to have more options soon (CM9, AOKP, MIUI, Etc..) which ALREADY run like a charm on our DS.
Cheer up people ^w^
Not the first one to report it. But I could confirm the battery mod is reading the false battery capacity
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Not the first one to report it. But I could confirm the battery mod is reading the false battery capacity
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??? More precisely please!
Sent by my fingers to your head.
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Not the first one to report it. But I could confirm the battery mod is reading the false battery capacity
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I agree with you there... It happens once the battery drops below 30%
I guess the uot kitchen needs to be updated for the newer sense versions
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