HSUPA a problem? - HTC Inspire 4G

I don't recall how I dug this up but I ended up on the xda captivate forum reading a thread about how HSUPA is disabled on the captivate. some people were saying that only the iphone had it enabled. Part of it sounded like conspiracy theory fud and some of it sounded reasonable but I didn't understand it.
HSUPA is related to upload speed, yes?
anyone knowledgable on the subject matter care to explain this to me?

substance12 said:
I don't recall how I dug this up but I ended up on the xda captivate forum reading a thread about how HSUPA is disabled on the captivate. some people were saying that only the iphone had it enabled. Part of it sounded like conspiracy theory fud and some of it sounded reasonable but I didn't understand it.
HSUPA is related to upload speed, yes?
anyone knowledgable on the subject matter care to explain this to me?
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Yes, HSUPA is related to upload speed, and HSDPA is related to your download speed. Together they make up the HSPA network, which has max speeds on AT&T of 7.2Mbps for downloads, and 5.6Mbps for uploads. You are also correct about AT&T disabling HSUPA on the Samsung Captivate, and almost any other phone they released last year not called an iPhone 4. Nobody knows the real reason behind why this happened, I assume it must be some part of the agreement they had in place with Apple, but now that this is over I highly doubt you'll see any phones that are locked out like that again. AT&T is very excited about the launch of the Inspire 4G and Atrix 4G, for them to disable these devices at this point would be silly at best.

everything you said makes perfect sense but i am not put at ease by the fact that AT&T would do this in the first place combined with what we are seeing currently in all the reviews. and i'm not talking about not getting 4g speeds. that's been discussed to death... fine... but weren't all the reviewers getting poor upload speeds too? (i actually don't recall exactly)

Except for the fact that every speed test done on this phone so far has been awful, and the iphone4 blows it away on both download and upload.
I'm gonna get it, and do a speed test with the two sitting next to each other. If I get much higher speeds on the iphone, the inspire is going right back.

I own the captivate and stock the upload was crippled. At first I didn't think that this was a big deal until I learned that upload speed directly relate to dl speeds. It has something to do with that your upload can get clogged and prevent download until it is cleared. But soon after I got the phone the devs released huspa enabled roms and now I get around 3000 down and 1800 up so my thinking is that even if att cripples the inspire which I think is unlikely seeing how they are advertising it as their first 4g, we should be able to use a different modem that will enable higher speeds.
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harlenm said:
Except for the fact that every speed test done on this phone so far has been awful, and the iphone4 blows it away on both download and upload.
I'm gonna get it, and do a speed test with the two sitting next to each other. If I get much higher speeds on the iphone, the inspire is going right back.
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It's not just the Inspire, AT&T has disabled HSUPA in every capable smartphone on their network besides the iPhone 4. I wrote an article a couple days ago where I reviewed the upload speeds from Inspire/Atrix 4G from reviews.
http://emuneee.com/2011/02/is-att-disabling-hsupa-on-its-4g-devices/
Noah at TechnoBuffalo does a side by side speed test of the Inspire 4G and iPhone 4. The iPhone consistently had upload speeds of 900+Kbps while the Inspire maxed at 393Kbps.
Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KgCIF-G1HO8#t=732s
This should be circumvented by flashing a compatible modem from the Desire HD (Telus, which uses the same 3G bands) with HSUPA enabled.

Ughhh I really hoped they wouldn't do this with there new 4g phone..doesn't make sense to me why they would.
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rooted users will have a solution to this but we shouldn't have to put up with it on principle. I personally feel it is illegal to favor one (i)phone and not others. If they did it across the board then i would be upset but at least they are consistent. But they don't cap the iphone. I've been putting this message out at every media outlet I come across... Consumerist, MSNBC, TWiT, ATT facebook and twitter page, ATT forums, etc. i wish we had the community power to post a new thread on their FB and twitter feed about this every single day.

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It's all good here. Telus Desire HD on ATT

Funk2641 said:
It's all good here. Telus Desire HD on ATT
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Is that actually a Telus Desire HD or AT&T Inspire hardware/software wise? If it is a Telus Desire, it would have it. The Captivate does to, as long as you are using a Telus, Bell, or Rogers modem. It is AT&T specific to the modem file that prevents HSUPA connections.

Telus version
I forgot I pre-ordered 2 months ago

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Telus version
I forgot I pre-ordered 2 months ago
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Well now that is just taunting us AT&T people, now isn't it.
Especially the ones that can't take a quick jaunt across the border to get one.
<---Stuck in Texas

After seeing this I did a quick test on my i4 to see what I get at home. Top # is on 3G and 2 # is on wifi at the house. I dont use my phone alot at work cause im too busy being a fedex driver so the 3G doesnt bother me but does. Im mostly on wifi anymore but just giving a comparison here.

aNdroidnut said:
After seeing this I did a quick test on my i4 to see what I get at home. Top # is on 3G and 2 # is on wifi at the house. I dont use my phone alot at work cause im too busy being a fedex driver so the 3G doesnt bother me but does. Im mostly on wifi anymore but just giving a comparison here.
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That would be HSUPA, people.

id10terrordfw said:
Well now that is just taunting us AT&T people, now isn't it.
Especially the ones that can't take a quick jaunt across the border to get one.
<---Stuck in Texas
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Heh, I live in Atlanta, GA.

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Heh, I live in Atlanta, GA.
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Quiet, you!

I worry much more about download than I do upload speeds. Currently the upload speeds on the Inspire are going to be slower than the iP4, but download was the same or better on the Inspire running Speedtest about 6 times. After all of the backhaul work on the network is done I think it's gonna be a different story.

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AT&T 3G VS T-Mobile 3G (Funny/True story)!

I was at the mall earlier with my buddy and he wanted to go to the T-Mobile store and ask a few questions.... I ended up talking to the store owner about random Android/Cell phone bs.
He pulled out a Nexus S (Unrooted/No ROM) and was explaining how T-Mobile 3G was so amazing. So he showed me his SpeedTest app results and they were around 1.44 down and he had one test that hit 2.15 I think.
So I downloaded the Speedtest app on my AT&T Samsung Captivate (Rooted/Serendipity 2.0) and tested. I got 2.23 and my upload annihilated his (don't remember number but it was high.)
He was speechless. Lol!
Yeah.....as long as you live in one of the locations deemed worthy of 3g by at&t. Sadly their promise of 3g here by the end of the year was yet another empty one.
newter55 said:
Yeah.....as long as you live in one of the locations deemed worthy of 3g by at&t. Sadly their promise of 3g here by the end of the year was yet another empty one.
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At least you get EDGE... live in a suburb and get no signal unless I walk outside...
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I also destryoed a few peoples download speeds around here.
Most I got was a 4.4mbps and 2up
my best ever was 5.1 down but i didn't have a screen capture program installed at the time, so you know... pics or it didn't happen
anyhoo, here's the best on my current setup
fatttire said:
At least you get EDGE... live in a suburb and get no signal unless I walk outside...
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You try hitting them up for a microcell? I have heard if some getting them to give them one due to poor service.
I'm actually sick of people complaining about att speeds since everyone is talking about 4G this 4G that. I know topic says 3G but still lol...
ATT gets 4.2-5Mbps down in my area and 1.7Mbps up. No other carrier I've seen here has been close sprint vzw etc get 100KBps... tops no higher.
Look at sprint's 4G its as fast as ATT's 3G. Vzw laptops only atm. TMo who has even heard of them in my area... they r big in Texas I know but nation wide??? I give props to tmo for using gsm like att so I know their speeds got to be up to par but I look at coverage maps and say really??
But anyway that's just my 2cents I pay for 10Mbps cable and my phone beats my computers speed tests... its sad that att wireless speeds are faster then our cable provider in my area...
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I'm actually sick of people complaining about att speeds since everyone is talking about 4G this 4G that. I know topic says 3G but still lol...
ATT gets 4.2-5Mbps down in my area and 1.7Mbps up. No other carrier I've seen here has been close sprint vzw etc get 100KBps... tops no higher.
Look at sprint's 4G its as fast as ATT's 3G. Vzw laptops only atm. TMo who has even heard of them in my area... they r big in Texas I know but nation wide??? I give props to tmo for using gsm like att so I know their speeds got to be up to par but I look at coverage maps and say really??
But anyway that's just my 2cents I pay for 10Mbps cable and my phone beats my computers speed tests... its sad that att wireless speeds are faster then our cable provider in my area...
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Yea its funny like the evo 4g 4mbs to 6mbs typicly and max 10mbs.....when i ran perception v4 i was gettin 5Mbs to 7mbs everytime in topeka ks where i live....i work for sprint call center...and laugh when they call in and are like omfg my phones so fassst.....hahah
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dirtbagg said:
Yea its funny like the evo 4g 4mbs to 6mbs typicly and max 10mbs.....when i ran perception v4 i was gettin 5Mbs to 7mbs everytime in topeka ks where i live....i work for sprint call center...and laugh when they call in and are like omfg my phones so fassst.....hahah
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I have a sprint tab and att phone I'm going to return my tab because I only use it when tether to my att phone for internet... my friend was getting kicks with his evo going what's this 4G what's that mean... even though 4G is not in this area I go loadup speedtest.net and let it speak for itsself.. lol oh well maybe by end of this year everyone will have decent speeds
Oh yeah I work for att call center and when ppl go Verizon is getting the iPhone. Since I can't say the iPhone is crap I go well if you want to surf the internet 4-5x slower then everyone else go for it. Lol its funny crap
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sublimaze said:
my best ever was 5.1 down but i didn't have a screen capture program installed at the time, so you know... pics or it didn't happen
anyhoo, here's the best on my current setup
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what app do u use for screen capture?
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what app do u use for screen capture?
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Look for shootme in the market. It's free and pretty good. Think it requires root. Yeah around my parts, AT&T 3g reigns king in speed. In fact, the only people who don't have 3g are the tmob customers...which is funny because the tmobile employees all around here wear "america's largest 4g" shirts. HA!
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Look for shootme in the market. It's free and pretty good. Think it requires root. Yeah around my parts, AT&T 3g reigns king in speed. In fact, the only people who don't have 3g are the tmob customers...which is funny because the tmobile employees all around here wear "america's largest 4g" shirts. HA!
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What a fail! LOL
1.4 - 2.8 is my norm for AT&T in NJ, that wouldn't impress me at all either
Well my speeds are not as fast as Sublimaze's but here is mine: This is with Perception 10.1
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Cheers,
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In Saint Louis area, 3G indicated on phone, I' getting 1100K to 2300 K and 300-500K. On ATT. No whete near numbers you are reporting
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dmnall said:
Well my speeds are not as fast as Sublimaze's but here is mine: This is with Perception 10.1
Cheers,
Charlie
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Nice!!! Must be happy, haha
Is there a specific AT&T group where I can request a femtocell? I tried at the local store and with the marketing dept, and they both said no. I have 6 AT&T phones -- 4 on a family plan and 2 more on corporate contracts. There is no signal at my house -- in a low area with only 1 tower in town. I can get 3G if I drive about 1.5 miles, but cannot keep a call connected at home. Seems like I would be a perfect customer for a femtocell, but I must not be talking to the right people. Without a signal solution, I am definitely going to try another carrier.

Has AT&T Crippled Upload speed?

It sure looks like it. Why? Who knows? Help avoid network congestion? Not once have I seen above 0.5Mbs up. Forget about down. That's terrible too. I feel deceived. Nowhere in the settings will u find HSPA+. Only HSDPA. Go to settings,scroll all the way down. I think its phone info or something. System should day HSPA+ (4G) not HSDPA.
Whatever....I give up.
well first of all, 4G isn't running yet for anyone, and it is crippled, it has been already talked about thou, root ur phone and you'll be fine.
epicKA8 said:
well first of all, 4G isn't running yet for anyone, and it is crippled, it has been already talked about thou, root ur phone and you'll be fine.
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WRONG! Officially,ATT hasit out in Buffalo,Providence,Baltimore.
Fuze-A-Rama said:
WRONG! Officially,ATT hasit out in Buffalo,Providence,Baltimore.
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And I see you're in Brooklyn, so you just answered your own question as to why you're not getting 4G. As suggested earlier, Rooting your phone and flashing a new ROM should give you HSUPA (look through the forum, people are reporting between 1-3mbps up)
It is easy to fix so while it would be nice out of the box the user can fix it.
Fuze-A-Rama said:
It sure looks like it. Why? Who knows? Help avoid network congestion? Not once have I seen above 0.5Mbs up. Forget about down. That's terrible too. I feel deceived. Nowhere in the settings will u find HSPA+. Only HSDPA. Go to settings,scroll all the way down. I think its phone info or something. System should day HSPA+ (4G) not HSDPA.
Whatever....I give up.
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A quick reading on telephony protocol is in order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access
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WRONG! Officially,ATT hasit out in Buffalo,Providence,Baltimore.
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I am in Baltimore and if I go closer to the city I get the better speeds. I live about 10 miles out so I do not see it at home. I plan on heading there this weekend to run a few speed tests, only problem is there is allot more network congestion there.
I posted this in the Speed thread, the 2nd shot was with my Hero in downtown Baltimore about a month ago.
Here is what I am getting after root in the Inspire, was taken halfway between Baltimore and DC. Not sure why it picked a WV server.
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Here is the best I ever got on my old Hero
homeslice976 said:
And I see you're in Brooklyn, so you just answered your own question as to why you're not getting 4G. As suggested earlier, Rooting your phone and flashing a new ROM should give you HSUPA (look through the forum, people are reporting between 1-3mbps up)
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Holdon justaminute,it says if the arrows under the 4G symbol are illuminated,u got 4G. Well..... they're litup. Most of the time. Something underhanded is goinon with At&t.
Whatzup with that?
mine is illuminated as well, that just means the network is tehre, but if they're only porting 3g speeds over the network, its all yours gonna get.
This is upsetting. Upload speeds are definitely crippled.
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AT&T hasn't launched HSPA+ yet. Upload and download speeds are going to be Shorty 'til it launches. AT&T says that HSPA+ willbe completely rolled out by March 31st.
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Crippled unless they remove the limitation with a firmware update. No prob getting 1700 up on a captivate on my home tower; never break 500 with inspire. Has NOTHING to do with any switch getting flipped with regard to upload speeds.
If you want higher upload speeds, root and flash.
Twenty4 said:
I am in Baltimore and if I go closer to the city I get the better speeds. I live about 10 miles out so I do not see it at home. I plan on heading there this weekend to run a few speed tests, only problem is there is allot more network congestion there.
I posted this in the Speed thread, the 2nd shot was with my Hero in downtown Baltimore about a month ago.
Here is what I am getting after root in the Inspire, was taken halfway between Baltimore and DC. Not sure why it picked a WV server.
Here is the best I ever got on my old Hero
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are u suggesting this is 4g speeds??? i'm getting about that here in chicago on my iphone4 up and down, and up on the inspire.
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So even though the 2 arrows are lit we're not on 4G? Thisis lame. Best I see is 3dn/.5up. WTF? Nobody mentionedtheres no 4G for your new 4G phone yet! .....U think this is something we oughtta know? Before we buy a phone?
Ya think?
im getting on average 4.5download
This is definitely false advertisement on AT&T's part. Miami does not have 4g turned on, it's not even on the AT&T map for current 4g areas, but yesterday a rep. in my friendly neighborhood AT&T store, told me that if I had the "+" next to the "H" I'm getting 4g. So, I did a speed test in front of him and I got 1.8 down and 0.3 up. He seemed baffled and walked away. I just don't want to be stuck for another 2 years for a service that it is not true 4g. Maybe T-mobile 4g or Verizon LTE are better.
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So even though the 2 arrows are lit we're not on 4G? Thisis lame. Best I see is 3dn/.5up. WTF? Nobody mentionedtheres no 4G for your new 4G phone yet! .....U think this is something we oughtta know? Before we buy a phone?
Ya think?
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If the down arrow is lit it means there is downloading going on, if the up arrow is lit it means there is uploading going on, regardless of what network it's connecting to.
When you see the H+, this could mean you're connected to 3G, HSDPA, or, if available, HSPA+ (there's not multiple icons for these networks). HSPA+ (which isn't really "4G" - this is a marketing ploy developed by T-Mobile which AT&T decided to latch on to, I think they should be sued for this) is currently being rolled out, but it's not available in most areas.
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This is definitely false advertisement on AT&T's part. Miami does not have 4g turned on, it's not even on the AT&T map for current 4g areas, but yesterday a rep. in my friendly neighborhood AT&T store, told me that if I had the "+" next to the "H" I'm getting 4g. So, I did a speed test in front of him and I got 1.8 down and 0.3 up. He seemed baffled and walked away. I just don't want to be stuck for another 2 years for a service that it is not true 4g. Maybe T-mobile 4g or Verizon LTE are better.
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T-Mobile 4G is HSPA+ as well, but I think they've rolled it out in more areas. The LTE network is a true 4G network, but I don't know how available it is either
As per owners manual,or quickstart manual that's in the box, it says,when u see the 2 arrows litup that means u got 4G. I know 1 means up & other is down.......
Only VZ & MetroPCS have LTE. This is all just marketspeak for the gullible. Thousands of people think they're on 4G because of marginally better speeds than they were getting!........EXCEPT ON THE UPLOAD!...
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If the down arrow is lit it means there is downloading going on, if the up arrow is lit it means there is uploading going on, regardless of what network it's connecting to.
When you see the H+, this could mean you're connected to 3G, HSDPA, or, if available, HSPA+ (there's not multiple icons for these networks). HSPA+ (which isn't really "4G" - this is a marketing ploy developed by T-Mobile which AT&T decided to latch on to, I think they should be sued for this) is currently being rolled out, but it's not available in most areas.
T-Mobile 4G is HSPA+ as well, but I think they've rolled it out in more areas. The LTE network is a true 4G network, but I don't know how available it is either
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Uh, no. LTE is not 4G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
Well... I'm glad we cleared thatup. Back to the question. Why? Engadget said what I was thinking,that its to avoid congestion. So we're suffering because the system can't handle all the customers? Somebody should do something about this......

U Need To Sign Zizo79s Petition...

If u bought an Inspire,u need to sign his petition. Forget what all these AT&T apologizers/employees/stockholders/morons say. What AT&T is doing WRONG. How anyone with a whit of common sense could look at ATTs adverts about 4G and upgrades to the system like the completion of "backhaul" & other nonsence,and not see the false advertising,is an ignorant loser. I know I'm furious over ATT crippling the DesireHD,now that its finally on ATT!
Like I said,all u Inspire owners need to go sign.
NOBODY wants to hear from ANY of u ATT sympathizers. U probably have iphones w/pink Otterboxes!
That is messed up how at&t mutilates their phones. However, I find it ironic all the fuss about at&t's "fake 4g" when the other carriers made the same claims and labelled their stuff 3g when at&t was the one that actually had the closest thing. The tables are turned now is all. I would however sign a petition about mutilation of their phone's in general, not that it would matter. Switching carriers and stating that reason would come closer to getting their attention.
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I find it ironic all the fuss about at&t's "fake 4g" when the other carriers made the same claims
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are you talking about Tmobile? Atleast on tmobile, when they say 4G, you do get 4G speed! on att map, it shows i have 4G coverage in Bayarea CA, but my inspire 4G speedtest is the SAME as any other 3G phones!
and to those that said i getting 4.5MB or higher on htc inspire! but it' so funny no-one able to prove it with youtube! haha
i hope someone complain to FCC about this ATT 4G BS!!
Way to take a post out of context. Read the whole post. You cut that quote off right before it showed I was clearly comparing 3g between carriers. If you're that unhappy, switch. All 4 of the main carriers finally all have decent android phones.
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it is 4g, its just a certain type of 4g.
read this.
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Way to take a post out of context. Read the whole post. You cut that quote off right before it showed I was clearly comparing 3g between carriers. If you're that unhappy, switch. All 4 of the main carriers finally all have decent android phones.
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comparing 3G between carriers??
are we ALL talking about 3G here?
i thought the OP is talking about ATT 4G BS!
Fuze-A-Rama said:
If u bought an Inspire,u need to sign his petition. Forget what all these AT&T apologizers/employees/stockholders/morons say. What AT&T is doing WRONG. How anyone with a whit of common sense could look at ATTs adverts about 4G and upgrades to the system like the completion of "backhaul" & other nonsence,and not see the false advertising,is an ignorant loser. I know I'm furious over ATT crippling the DesireHD,now that its finally on ATT!
Like I said,all u Inspire owners need to go sign.
NOBODY wants to hear from ANY of u ATT sympathizers. U probably have iphones w/pink Otterboxes!
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Why not just ask "please sign this petition?"
Instead you lace your post with insults.
People aren't going to sign the petition just to be sure YOU don't think they're an ignorant loser or an ATT sympathizer.
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netnerd said:
are you talking about Tmobile? Atleast on tmobile, when they say 4G, you do get 4G speed! on att map, it shows i have 4G coverage in Bayarea CA, but my inspire 4G speedtest is the SAME as any other 3G phones!
and to those that said i getting 4.5MB or higher on htc inspire! but it' so funny no-one able to prove it with youtube! haha
i hope someone complain to FCC about this ATT 4G BS!!
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so screen shots aren't good enough to prove it? gotta have video too??
and really, there isn't any were yet that i've heard of confirmed "4G" actually working.
And just what do you expect this petition to do? Will AT&T all the sudden move up their 4g roll out? lol
Or do you want them to put out an apology add? lol
Or do you think you've been had by purchasing the phone? You have 30 days to return it.
Meh... AT&T has certainly taken liberties with their 4G advertising (as have others), but anyone who does any research knows this. As for the handicapping of speed, they are within their rights. It's all in the contract. Personally, I have been pretty happy with the speed. If you're not, there are other companies that will happily take your money.
Im not worried about it. I knew. Buying the phone that i wasn getting 4G anytime soon. Especially living where i do.
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so screen shots aren't good enough to prove it? gotta have video too??
and really, there isn't any were yet that i've heard of confirmed "4G" actually working.
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This guys lying! It's probably a Thunderbolt on LTE!
Cmon guys,I hope you've been to Groubal.
Fuze-A-Rama said:
This guys lying! It's probably a Thunderbolt on LTE!
Cmon guys,I hope you've been to Groubal.
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really? you're calling me a lier???? RIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTT
edit: and if you're talking about my sig, its a cable line, AND this is also my first droid phone ever, and if u notice my sig, i came form the iphone world (so ATT, no LTE), and my iphone gets the same speeds as inspire.
Inspire users... Unite!!! At&t is Hitler!!
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Here is the link: http://www.groubal.com/att-misleading-their-customers-and-capping-upload-speeds/
I agree with the OP said, we all know that their "4G" isnt delpoyed but why asell phones with the 4G sign on them. That isnt the main issue here, the big issue is the fact that if you don't have an iPhone, your chances are that AT&T crippled your upload speeds. This petition is getting a lot of attention (Just google it),
There's a thread on the ATT site that was started a long time ago. "Why is AT&T capping uploads on all non-iphones?" I didn't pay it no mind. Until I bought an Inspire! This is corporate favoritism in the worst way. This is WRONG. It may not be worth squat. But we should ALL sign it. Now.
I have been getting some extreme speeds on and off. Any where from 3 to 20 mbs.
Here are some extreme speed shots.
Note - I do not achieve these speeds consistently at all.
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Le7
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I have been getting some extreme speeds on and off. Any where from 3 to 20 mbs.
Here are some extreme speed shots.
Note - I do not achieve these speeds consistently at all.
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Le7
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Ldq
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Lfb
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Holy mac... !! So I guess Seattle has HSPA+!
Sorry bout that epicKA8....
epicKA8 said:
really? you're calling me a lier???? RIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTT
edit: and if you're talking about my sig, its a cable line, AND this is also my first droid phone ever, and if u notice my sig, i came form the iphone world (so ATT, no LTE), and my iphone gets the same speeds as inspire.
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I thought u were implying those were your Inspires speeds. Nevermind.
Maliberti said:
I have been getting some extreme speeds on and off. Any where from 3 to 20 mbs.
Here are some extreme speed shots.
Note - I do not achieve these speeds consistently at all.
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Le7
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Ldq
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Lfb
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Holy jesus!
Are you rooted or good ol stock?
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How do I enable HSUPA on Infuse 4G?

How do I enable HSUPA on the Infuse 4G? I had the Inspire 4G and to enable it I just had to edit the one line of the build.prop, but I'm not seeing a HSUPA in the build property file.
Anyone have any ideas?
bella92108 said:
How do I enable HSUPA on the Infuse 4G? I had the Inspire 4G and to enable it I just had to edit the one line of the build.prop, but I'm not seeing a HSUPA in the build property file.
Anyone have any ideas?
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already enabled
Dani897 said:
already enabled
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Not on mine. Getting 384kbps upload capped like when I first got my Inspire 4G
Right next to it my Inspire 4G is getting 1.5mbps upload... so clearly the 384kbps just happens to be the cap for non HSUPA, lol
i get 2.2mbps down and 7ish up. though on speed test app i rarely get any better than you are getting. try using the web browser on speakeasy.com. the speed test apps dont really work that well on this phone for some reason
on settings the about phone then mobile network type, shouldnt it say HSPA+?
why do we have HSDPA? is it because we have a diffrent class form the atrix?
Transformer27 said:
on settings the about phone then mobile network type, shouldnt it say HSPA+?
why do we have HSDPA? is it because we have a diffrent class form the atrix?
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atrix has hsdpa+ they promised an update to enable full hspa+ to the atrix and the inspire. the infuse is supposed to be the first full hspa+ phone. just att changing there tune on things as verizon steals iphone customers. also it takes time to update the network to support that the traffic. as the backend get stronger they will budge more on regulations.
Hmm i still think it should say HSPA+. but either way i still get pretty decent down and up speeds.
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Hmm i still think it should say HSPA+. but either way i still get pretty decent down and up speeds.
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try speakeasy.com in the web browser. my phone agrees eith that much better. i was getting similar download to you or less on speedtest bt on speakeasy i get up to 7mbps down
i got about the same
it might be something odd about my area and att's servers. my area was all Cell1 towers and were only updated about christmas time. i only had edge up till then and the area has always been weird.
i think ever since i had cingular>att i have had 3G down here.
same here
I am getting around 6MBPS up and around 300KBPS down. I also tried the speakeasy.net with same results. I have checked the speed in many locations and I found only one area that was giving me 2.5MBPS up. The download speed is high in all locations. ATT store told me that is the way it is (faster than 3G).
Its already enable. If you are getting slow uploads is your tower, try it at different times and dates. I will get anywhere from 100 to 1.5mbps on different days and times.
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I have noticed that my speeds are the same as they were on the atrix. After the speed cap unlock.
Also keep in mind that ATT has just really started making the upgrades on their network from hspa to hspa+ just late last year and mostly in the centralized areas of major cities, starting with the standard backhaul of 14mb/s. Which is what the Inspire and Atrix are designed to run on. They are just barely starting to upgrade their network backhaul to the 21mb/s that T-Mo has already had in place on just about their entire since last year.
Now even though ATT has decided to go LTE, and while they are still slowing upgrading to 21mb/s hspa+, T-Mo has just started rolling out the next step up which is 42mb/s. It is with this that ATT plans to use as their regular next gen network when they purchase tmobile with real world speed of about 10mb/s down and 6mb/s up vs their 100mb/s LTE which has already been shown off to offer a real time download of about 25mb/s.
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Also keep in mind that ATT has just really started making the upgrades on their network from hspa to hspa+ just late last year and mostly in the centralized areas of major cities, starting with the standard backhaul of 14mb/s. Which is what the Inspire and Atrix are designed to run on. They are just barely starting to upgrade their network backhaul to the 21mb/s that T-Mo has already had in place on just about their entire since last year.
Now even though ATT has decided to go LTE, and while they are still slowing upgrading to 21mb/s hspa+, T-Mo has just started rolling out the next step up which is 42mb/s. It is with this that ATT plans to use as their regular next gen network when they purchase tmobile with real world speed of about 10mb/s down and 6mb/s up vs their 100mb/s LTE which has already been shown off to offer a real time download of about 25mb/s.
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Yeah the issue is too coincidental that I'm capped at 384kbps... which is the cap of disabling HSUPA. My iPhone gets 1.1mbps upload, my Inspire 4G gets 1.2mbps upload, yet my Infuse gets 384kbps EVERY TIME? I call shenanigans.
bella92108 said:
Yeah the issue is too coincidental that I'm capped at 384kbps... which is the cap of disabling HSUPA. My iPhone gets 1.1mbps upload, my Inspire 4G gets 1.2mbps upload, yet my Infuse gets 384kbps EVERY TIME? I call shenanigans.
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it may be an issue with the radio firmware. there were articles about some protocall they use and blah blah. it might not work on the infuse in your particular area, but as you can see there are a few of us getting hsupa speeds and we did not do any special mods to our phones. i wish i could have a specific reason for you but that's just how att and technology in general work sometimes
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it may be an issue with the radio firmware. there were articles about some protocall they use and blah blah. it might not work on the infuse in your particular area, but as you can see there are a few of us getting hsupa speeds and we did not do any special mods to our phones. i wish i could have a specific reason for you but that's just how att and technology in general work sometimes
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Boo, shady, hehe

Data speed sucks

So my data speed sucks horribly. I have good 4g coverage in my town. I just got a new sim card. I'm not stuck on 2g networks. I have the 4g data plan. Nothing is fixing it. The Rep at the T-Mobile store couldn't help me. Tried to warranty my phone and they're out of stock so he offered me a galagy s... no thanks. I dunno what to do. Any suggestions?
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Are you inside of a building?
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Ive tried it in various places around town. While in a car, in houses, outside of houses. Out of town. I get the same VERY low data speed everywhere I try no matter where I am.
It's not your phone, it's t- mobile's crappy network. I had the same issue, connected to 4g but with Edge download speeds. They're upgrading some of their backbone connections, but at a slow pace. My speeds are getting better, but it took months to get somewhat acceptable speeds. Go to a t-mobile some and do some speed tests side by side with another mt4g and a galaxy s, you'll see the same speeds on all the phones.
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erickdj said:
It's not your phone, it's t- mobile's crappy network. I had the same issue, connected to 4g but with Edge download speeds. They're upgrading some of their backbone connections, but at a slow pace. My speeds are getting better, but it took months to get somewhat acceptable speeds. Go to a t-mobile some and do some speed tests side by side with another mt4g and a galaxy s, you'll see the same speeds on all the phones.
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Well thats good news, sorta haha. I will have to check out what other phones at the store are getting next time im there. The rep with the Galaxy S didnt mention his was slow too, I would think that he would have if it was. Mine has been slow like this for 1-2 months now. Its getting ridiculous. I paid for 4G data speeds and im not getting them.
T-Mo's network just sucks a big one. I live a stone's throw away from their corporate HQ, in an area totally saturated with the strongest signal strength from all of their frequencies, and the fastest I can muster is 6Mb/s down. Realistic speeds are more like 2-3. So much for 14.4.
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T-Mo's network just sucks a big one. I live a stone's throw away from their corporate HQ, in an area totally saturated with the strongest signal strength from all of their frequencies, and the fastest I can muster is 6Mb/s down. Realistic speeds are more like 2-3. So much for 14.4.
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Well that 14.4 isnt the speed you will hit. Its like a 56k modem never hitting 56k. They are two different measurements of speed or some stupid technical babble.
Jon C said:
T-Mo's network just sucks a big one. I live a stone's throw away from their corporate HQ, in an area totally saturated with the strongest signal strength from all of their frequencies, and the fastest I can muster is 6Mb/s down. Realistic speeds are more like 2-3. So much for 14.4.
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I have yet to understand why in Vancouver, Washington I have managed to get >10mbps down yet even Portland (Where there's supposed to be 42mb theoretical) I hardly get above 2mbps.
And before someone asks, no I was not on wifi.
on a side note, I beat a thunderbolt that was on 4G LTE in a speed test in Portland. I was pretty happy when that happened.
I have two bars of HSDPA and just got a screaming 256k download. Just about average for around here, so you guys should be feeling pretty happy.
This is why I am unhappy... my speeds are never higher than this.
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So my data speed sucks horribly. I have good 4g coverage in my town. I just got a new sim card. I'm not stuck on 2g networks. I have the 4g data plan. Nothing is fixing it. The Rep at the T-Mobile store couldn't help me. Tried to warranty my phone and they're out of stock so he offered me a galagy s... no thanks. I dunno what to do. Any suggestions?
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I guess it would depend on what you mean by data sucks. Is it slow because of high network traffic like during the busy day or slower than normal?
Second, are you stock or running custom roms/kernel?
Third, if your not stock did you flash a different radio?
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I guess it would depend on what you mean by data sucks. Is it slow because of high network traffic like during the busy day or slower than normal?
Second, are you stock or running custom roms/kernel?
Third, if your not stock did you flash a different radio?
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I posted a screenshot of my speeds in the last post of page 1. Its always that slow no matter when or where in town I do it. I even tired it out of town and still have that same speed. It wasnt that slow until about 2-3 months ago. Im usually somewhere that has wifi so im not 100% sure when it happened so thats just a guess. I am not stock. I have tried different roms, kernels, and all the radio versions and they all produce the same speeds.
The people at the T-Mobile store won't say anything about slow speeds, either because they have no clue or it's simply not good marketing to openly admit your network sucks. As long as they see that "H" or "4G" icon by the notification area they're like "Look, 4G speed!". Be a bit patient if you can, if not, seek a different provider. They are continuously upgrading their network. I had a direct face to face conversation with one of T-mo's network engineers, he gave me a rough idea of when the speeds would increase, so far he was right. I'm still not getting proper "4G" speeds, but it's better than what I used to get. I went through a two month ordeal before someone finally came clean about what was happening. The phone support people were useless and didn't have a clue of what was happening, always giving me the run around and asking me to call back in 3 days. Finally, after pestering them for weeks, one of their engineers came to do some field testing right where I was. That's when I finally got the straight story of what the deal was.
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The people at the T-Mobile store won't say anything about slow speeds, either because they have no clue or it's simply not good marketing to openly admit your network sucks. As long as they see that "H" or "4G" icon by the notification area they're like "Look, 4G speed!". Be a bit patient if you can, if not, seek a different provider. They are continuously upgrading their network. I had a direct face to face conversation with one of T-mo's network engineers, he gave me a rough idea of when the speeds would increase, so far he was right. I'm still not getting proper "4G" speeds, but it's better than what I used to get. I went through a two month ordeal before someone finally came clean about what was happening. The phone support people were useless and didn't have a clue of what was happening, always giving me the run around and asking me to call back in 3 days. Finally, after pestering them for weeks, one of their engineers came to do some field testing right where I was. That's when I finally got the straight story of what the deal was.
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Its already been months. This is getting unacceptable. I am paying $30 a month for my 4G data plan and its nowhere near the speeds it should be. Its so slow that I cant even use the GPS without it popping up with a blank map because it can not load it fast enough. I am a big T-Mobile fan and I prefer the GSM networks but if this does not change I will have no choice but to go with a different carrier. Most likely ATT because I do not want to give up my SIM card ability.
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You sure your not throttled
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100% positive im not throttled. Went to the T-Mobile store yesterday and confirmed it. They checked my account and my phone settings and couldn't find any reason for the slow speeds.
Try looking into changing your radio. It helped me a ton. Now I get 4G almost everywhere. Check android development for more info.
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I have hit 10MBit down and ~3.5Mbit down in some areas while some areas I get EDGE speeds though it clearly says 4G. I might have to give a shot with the radio... reception on this phone is not as good as my MT3G.
Ive tried all radios and ive tried checking my speeds out of town and I get no difference. I ended up buying a MT4G off ebay that for some reason the owner couldnt load a rom to but it will boot to clockwork recovery and the bootloader. Im going to see if I can revive it and im going to test my speeds on it and see if its the hardware inside of my phone that is the problem.
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I ended up buying a MT4G off ebay that for some reason the owner couldnt load a rom to but it will boot to clockwork recovery and the bootloader. Im going to see if I can revive it and im going to test my speeds on it and see if its the hardware inside of my phone that is the problem.
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Make sure it's not one of those with the "e: can't mount cache" errors, or that it at least has the engineering bootloader on it, otherwise that phone is toast.

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