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[Q] Choosing an Android phone w/ keyboard: Desire Z/G2 or Droid 2 or other ??

I have to change my phone and my only req. is a hardware keyboard.
I've been a hardcore, diehard Windows Mobile user for over a decade.
I feel forced to go Android because WP7 smells sort of iPhone-esque clone (no file access, no multitasking, no cut/paste, etc...)
To my surprise, I've found there aren't quite a lot of Android devices with keyboard out there
Fortunately, I've seen a couple of interesting soon-to-be-released phones:
The HTC Desire Z / T-Mobile G2 and the Moto Droid 2 WE (world edition) / Milestone 2
Both will have Froyo 2.2, 5MP cam 720p HD video rec, 3.7" multitouch screen & all the standard shizz
G2 / Desire Z advantages:
- It is HTC
- It has Sense onboard, which I am familiar to
Appart from that, and curiously enough, the Droid 2 / Milestone 2 is better in every other aspect:
- Better screen res (854x480 vs 800x480)
- Faster processor (1000MHz vs 800MHz)
- More internal memory (8GB vs 1.5GB)
- Slightly smaller size (60.5 x 116.3 x 13.7 mm vs 60.4 x 119 x 14.2)
- Lighter weigth (169 gr vs 180 gr)
- Slightly bigger battery (1400 mAh vs 1300 mAh)
- Better flash (dual LED vs single LED)
My Q: Which one to go ?? or is there any other device to consider ??
Any advice / oppinion / suggestion appreciated
Data source:
1- http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/specification.html
2- http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/X...rvices/Mobile-Phones/ci.Milestone-2-XW-EN.alt

The claim the g2 benchmarks right with the moto so the processor and gpu might be a wash
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squish099 said:
The claim the g2 benchmarks right with the moto so the processor and gpu might be a wash
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You sure ??
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"Stock Droid 2 running Android 2.2 and crushing any phone on the planet in a Quadrant benchmark. That my friends, is real power."
- Droid Life
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/10/droid-2-benchmark-score-drops-jaws/
How could HTC stand such an insult from Moto ??
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There is benchmark results on androidspin.com
http://androidspin.com/2010/09/09/t-mobile-g2-can-keep-up-with-the-galaxy-s/
Check it out, by the way my hd2 running cm scores 1880 in quadrant.
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squish099 said:
There is benchmark results on androidspin.com
http://androidspin.com/2010/09/09/t-mobile-g2-can-keep-up-with-the-galaxy-s/
Check it out, by the way my hd2 running cm scores 1880 in quadrant.
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Thanks for the link !!
Interesting benchmarks...
And you're right:
I'd go for a WM6.5 HTC HD2 if it only had a keyboard...
Anyway it will not be upgradeable to WP7, and as I stated before, WP7 is expected to be as closed as a religious man's mind
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Android is running great and nand is coming soon. Cotulla posted a bootloader on his web site just waiting for a rom and instructions.
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Other Android-with-keyboard option is the "Motorola Flipout"
Besides the QVGA screen res the device is awesome
(image from Mobile-Geeks)

Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro?

Obviously some of you guys haven't read up on Adreno 205 GPU that comes with G2 & its MSM&230. Try reading this article first:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...t-compare-to-other-gpus/page__pid__65#entry65
Adreno 205 is going to perform better than PowerVR SGX530 found in Droid X. It may even get pretty close to PowerVR SGX540 found in Sammy's Himmingbird.
Watch out for this table, I'm sure someone will load their Quadrant result as soon as it becomes available:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/

gtrab said:
...I'd go for a WM6.5 HTC HD2 if it only had a keyboard...
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If only. It would be the almost perfect device. What have smartphone manufacturers got against big screen qwertys anyway!??!?
(yeah I know there are a couple but, only a couple! The Z's screen is too small so I don't count this. Samsungs Galaxy S Pro? The Galaxy is being slated due to bugs)
edit: I have to be honest though, i'm waiting for WinPho 7 as it appears, walled garden aside, that it could integrate very will with Zune and my Xbox subscription. If it launches and has full and complete MS Ofice/Exchange integration then its very possible I will jump straight on to a Dell Lightning - assuming it records 720p.

Benchmark results for the Optimus 3D

Here is a fresh benchmark that puts the O3D on top as usual:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...430-smartbench-2011-result-has-been-revealed/

These are the first benchmarks of the Optimus 3D, done by Anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested

power

Can somebody who has a developer unit Optimus 3d try the Nenamark 2 Benchmark and post their results please? Just curios to see what its FPS is, and compare it to other dual core devices. (i know the software isn't final build tho)
Thanks
Ian

Beaker491 said:
Can somebody who has a developer unit Optimus 3d try the Nenamark 2 Benchmark and post their results please? Just curios to see what its FPS is, and compare it to other dual core devices. (i know the software isn't final build tho)
Thanks
Ian
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Just crashes when I try to run it.

Not worth an extra thread...
Android Ice Cream Sandwich To Be Optimized For Texas Instruments?
If this is true our Optimus 3D might have a bright future. ^^

HDD_x8 said:
Here is a fresh benchmark that puts the O3D on top as usual:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...430-smartbench-2011-result-has-been-revealed/
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Is it still on top?

this benchmark is not updated, SGII has got over 3000>>> http://gurkensenf.com/wordpress/?p=9044

The SGS 2 is currently the benchmark king, but all the benchmarks that are currently on the net for O3D show that the O3D was running pre-release software. There are no final release software O3D's benchmark test results out yet.
Ian

At mwc on february in barcellona,Lg press conference showed a 2900+ points in quadrant.

SGS2 can easily get over 4000 quadrant score when overclocked to a stable 1.5GHz.
I wonder if we can overclock the O3D? If so, I reckon it will also go to 1.5GHz possibly.

I've had the pleasure to play with it yesterday at LG. Only had the time to install Quadrant.
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thank you very much!! so with 5th june rom the score is a little better thant before.
di you ask to lg for a release date?

Well the best I heard was the beginning of july in the netherlands. The representative said that with the final rom Quadrant reached about 3000, it is expected to go higher when 2.3 comes out for the Optimus 3d. 2.3 should roll out just after launch.

nice results for a phone that still runs android 2.2 and is not final software

peacekeeper05 said:
nice results for a phone that still runs android 2.2 and is not final software
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I agree, I wonder though if the 512 MB RAM will be a problem, ofcource the product-manager said it wouldn't but hey, that's his job

Has anybody managed to get the Smartbench 2011 and Nenamark 2 benchmark tests running on an O3D yet? If so, what were the results?
Thanks
Ian

http://www.intomobile.com/reviews/lg-optimus-3d-review/
Quick question, why do the benchmarks seem a bit low is this review? Neocore didn't even hit 59 FPS! And the quadrant seems a bit low of 2800+ that LG claim...
Is this review still not on final software?
Thanks
Ian

The highest i got on Quadrant was 2680. But mine is running on May software, so its not final. Don't really compare this phone to SG2 because that comes overclocked from Sammy and is on gingerbread, that's why it gets high scores. Wait til O3D gets 2.3 and overclock kernel then we shall see its potential.
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largo79 said:
The highest i got on Quadrant was 2680. But mine is running on May software, so its not final. Don't really compare this phone to SG2 because that comes overclocked from Sammy and is on gingerbread, that's why it gets high scores. Wait til O3D gets 2.3 and overclock kernel then we shall see its potential.
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|SGS2 is UNDERclocked, the CPU is a 1.5ghz one underclocked to 1.2ghz

CF-Benchmark Results

Hey Sensation owners... check out CF Benchmark
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134768
It is a benchmark tool testing out ONLY the CPUs... Running tests on it leads me to believe it is preeeettyy accurate. It foolows the same trench as Smartbench 2011. Both apps take advantage of dual core.
With my Desire HD running @ 1.8ghz Sense 3.0 I am getting an average score of around ~4600. Sensation is scoring @ 5174 according to OP.
1.8 vs 2x 1.2 is a dif of 600 mhz (i know this isnt 100% accurate but lets assume). I down clocked my Desire HD by 600 mhz and the difference is score is about ~1100.
So... Applying some logic... Sensation @ 2x 1.2ghz should be scoring at roughly 6000 pts... which is pretty much where the SGS2 Stands at if u consider the 35% additional pixels on Sensation...
So what I am saying is... With custom Rom Sensation should be JUST as good as SGS2 at equal clock speeds.
HOWEVER... Samsung is known to make ****TIER stock roms then HTC... so... perhaps there is a possibility to get more out of Samsung's processor... we will have to see...
I'm looking for Sensation owners to run more more Benches on this App and perhaps Smartbench 2011.
Perhaps I was wrong and Sensation may be a good successor to Desire HD after all!
Edit: OBVIOUSLY 2x 1.2 does not mean 2.4 ghz of cpu power... but I am simplifying the math and concepts.

I just ran it and got 9100
My g2x overclocked to 1.5ghz got ~14000

jlevy73 said:
I just ran it and got 9100
My g2x overclocked to 1.5ghz got ~14000
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What is your OVERALL Score, not the Native.
Impressive score on the g2x!

I got 5237 for overall score.

under the phone info what's listed under MHz? mine says 1188 so technically it's running at 1.18 Ghz? I know HTC themselves were able to overclock to 1.5 no problem so I'm sure we could get a stable 1.6-1.8 once we get it unlocked

Just tried to run it and crashed on the Java Memory Write

Maedhros said:
Hey Sensation owners... check out CF Benchmark
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134768
It is a benchmark tool testing out ONLY the CPUs... Running tests on it leads me to believe it is preeeettyy accurate. It foolows the same trench as Smartbench 2011. Both apps take advantage of dual core.
With my Desire HD running @ 1.8ghz Sense 3.0 I am getting an average score of around ~4600. Sensation is scoring @ 5174 according to OP.
1.8 vs 2x 1.2 is a dif of 600 mhz (i know this isnt 100% accurate but lets assume). I down clocked my Desire HD by 600 mhz and the difference is score is about ~1100.
So... Applying some logic... Sensation @ 2x 1.2ghz should be scoring at roughly 6000 pts... which is pretty much where the SGS2 Stands at if u consider the 35% additional pixels on Sensation...
So what I am saying is... With custom Rom Sensation should be JUST as good as SGS2 at equal clock speeds.
HOWEVER... Samsung is known to make ****TIER stock roms then HTC... so... perhaps there is a possibility to get more out of Samsung's processor... we will have to see...
I'm looking for Sensation owners to run more more Benches on this App and perhaps Smartbench 2011.
Perhaps I was wrong and Sensation may be a good successor to Desire HD after all!
Edit: OBVIOUSLY 2x 1.2 does not mean 2.4 ghz of cpu power... but I am simplifying the math and concepts.
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In the past I would agree with Samsung and crappy stock builds but the SGS2 is coded very well. It's one of the few devices out right now that take advantage of hardware acceleration. The good thing for Sensation owners is that Qualcomm's kernel is about as open as it gets. There is a trove of published data for the msm8660 chip so there is plenty of room for optimizations.

Sensation (overall score): 4786
G2x OC 1.5 (overall score): 8125

graffixnyc said:
under the phone info what's listed under MHz? mine says 1188 so technically it's running at 1.18 Ghz? I know HTC themselves were able to overclock to 1.5 no problem so I'm sure we could get a stable 1.6-1.8 once we get it unlocked
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Except 1.5 isn't an overclock for this chip (that's its native speed)...HTC is actually underclocking to 1.2 I would presume to enhance battery life?

5299 overall score.
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jlevy73 said:
In the past I would agree with Samsung and crappy stock builds but the SGS2 is coded very well. It's one of the few devices out right now that take advantage of hardware acceleration. The good thing for Sensation owners is that Qualcomm's kernel is about as open as it gets. There is a trove of published data for the msm8660 chip so there is plenty of room for optimizations.
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The only hardware acceleration I am aware of is in the browser. In other aspects (especially widget/homescreen redraw) is pretty bad. The reason touchwiz looks more "optimized" is that touchwiz is pretty light considering the hardware under the hood.
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Except 1.5 isn't an overclock for this chip (that's its native speed)...HTC is actually underclocking to 1.2 I would presume to enhance battery life?
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Well... it is underclocked officially... However Desire HD has the same CPU which has a "regular" clock of 1ghz. So I would say Sensation will get 1.8ghz OC. Maybe 1.9, but I think 1.8 will be more common
Seems like from the results of the Bench Qualcomm didn't upgrade anything on the CPU SoC... I thought they would have atleast upgraded the cache or memory...

Maedhros said:
The only hardware acceleration I am aware of is in the browser. In other aspects (especially widget/homescreen redraw) is pretty bad. The reason touchwiz looks more "optimized" is that touchwiz is pretty light considering the hardware under the hood.
Well... it is underclocked officially... However Desire HD has the same CPU which has a "regular" clock of 1ghz. So I would say Sensation will get 1.8ghz OC. Maybe 1.9, but I think 1.8 will be more common
Seems like from the results of the Bench Qualcomm didn't upgrade anything on the CPU SoC... I thought they would have atleast upgraded the cache or memory...
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You're right, just re-read the review and it was the browser that was accelerated. Thanks for the clarification

hi
HTC Sensation (normal )
im running P3d xe 35 with Beats
gpu kernel to 320 mhz
with cpu 1890 mhz
my scores are
12001
3452
6512

Maedhros said:
The only hardware acceleration I am aware of is in the browser. In other aspects (especially widget/homescreen redraw) is pretty bad. The reason touchwiz looks more "optimized" is that touchwiz is pretty light considering the hardware under the hood.
Well... it is underclocked officially... However Desire HD has the same CPU which has a "regular" clock of 1ghz. So I would say Sensation will get 1.8ghz OC. Maybe 1.9, but I think 1.8 will be more common
Seems like from the results of the Bench Qualcomm didn't upgrade anything on the CPU SoC... I thought they would have atleast upgraded the cache or memory...
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I am sorry but what are you on about? The Desire HD does not have the same CPU. It has a single core Snapdragon Scorpion core rather than our dual core Snapdragon SOC with two Scorpion cores. We also have a Adreno 220 GPU rather than a Adreno 205 GPU. Quite a significant difference if you ask me
I have also got a overall of 11855 with my ICS Sensation @ 1.5GHz

Overall score : 7427
Running MIUI,with bundled Trinity kernel,[email protected]

13455, 3902, 7723
ARHD, sense 3.0, faux 0.2.7r ultimate, 1.728 GHz

Here is my Sensation 4G score.
Overclock to 1836 Mhz.
Using InsertCoin latest and Bricked Kernel V1.5.
I love this device and all the tweaks.
Amaze Camera, Beats Audio, Android 2.3.5, Sence 3.5, Market 3.44, Arrows Key Board, etc.
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wow! that's amazing results..

AHRD 3.69 Sense 3.0, Faux 2.7r CPU 1350Mhz
Native 10382
Java 3410
Overall 6198

CM7a10 Bricked 1.4 @1.78
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dual core + ics

I'm currently running virtuous inquisition 1.3.0. I've tried all ICS roms and I must say I havent' seen much speed increase running single core vs dual core (enabled via system tuner pro). ICS was supposed to take full advantage of the dual core processor but - it's not doing that. I ran tests and after disabling one core the phone actually performs a bit faster - using all the tests I could find: linpack, Quadrant and CF-Bench. Could well be that it's just such an early release of ICS. But GB is actually performing better vs ICS at the current state of affairs.

Synthetic benchmarks are far from definitive.
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Synthetic benchmarks are far from definitive.
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I'm comparing apples to apples numerous times, the disabled secondary core results are always a bit higher.

It's a test ROM. What did you expect?

1. It's an internal test LEAK with a pre-official base
2. Asynchronous smp. Wtf do people not understand about our phones being asynchronous smp architecture? Ics WILL NEVER change this. Ics made the whole rom multithreaded (taking advantage of multi core) and made apps aware of multicore, but nowhere did it EVER say it would change our phone from asynchronous smp to synchronous smp.
Our phones are only built to have cpu1 come on when the load (not speed) on cpu0 reaches a certain threshold.
ICS WILL NOT MAKE BOTH CORES STAY ON ALL THE TIME! this would mean changing the CPU architecture which is not happening after the whole SoC has been designed, layed out, and built (the physical chip and its design).
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It's a test ROM. What did you expect?
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I was expecting dual core perform at least on par with the single core, as ICS finally able to do it.
But you may be right - got trip's experimental beta and without even looking if it's running dual core - his rom smokes competition flat. Much better results than even the famed Galaxy S2.

I dont understand what are you guys talking about, im running ICS with sense for few days and its faster than anything before and benchmarks confirm it
2600 in quadrant and 6250 in AnTuTU and i couldn't get that much even with custom tweaked kernels with overclocked GPU..
Only problem is as its early stage dev rom, scores are some times "quirky" and drop in half but most of the times you get this high ones.
Also Browser is noticeable smoother, scrolling pages (XDA Sensation development) is smooth now and was laggy with ALL roms EVER. EStrong file manager also smooth as it should be..
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I dont understand what are you guys talking about, im running ICS with sense for few days and its faster than anything before and benchmarks confirm it
2600 in quadrant and 6250 in AnTuTU and i couldn't get that much even with custom tweaked kernels with overclocked GPU..
Only problem is as its early stage dev rom, scores are some times "quirky" and drop in half but most of the times you get this high ones.
Also Browser is noticeable smoother, scrolling pages (XDA Sensation development) is smooth now and was laggy with ALL roms EVER. EStrong file manager also smooth as it should be..
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Which Rom are you using? My benchmarks suck...
Matt

mrg02d said:
Which Rom are you using? My benchmarks suck...
Matt
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Using RCTeam first release 1.0 version.
Except i was inpatient to wait so i zipaligned and PNG optimized entire rom my self, and deleted bunch of HTC crap i dont use, including loggers...

ivicask said:
I dont understand what are you guys talking about, im running ICS with sense for few days and its faster than anything before and benchmarks confirm it
2600 in quadrant and 6250 in AnTuTU and i couldn't get that much even with custom tweaked kernels with overclocked GPU..
Only problem is as its early stage dev rom, scores are some times "quirky" and drop in half but most of the times you get this high ones.
Also Browser is noticeable smoother, scrolling pages (XDA Sensation development) is smooth now and was laggy with ALL roms EVER. EStrong file manager also smooth as it should be..
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quadrant doesn't support dual core & isn't a reliable benchmark.

sromer said:
quadrant doesn't support dual core & isn't a reliable benchmark.
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Enough with Quadrant bashing. It shows useful FPS information and is relative. Now, if it only went to 2500 no matter what ROM you are using then yes, it would be useless. But getting a 1400 on it with one ROM and then getting a 2600 on it with another ROM AINT useless information.
Matt

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quadrant doesn't support dual core & isn't a reliable benchmark.
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So your saying by disabling 2nd core you get same score? And tell me why is CPU usage on 100% during test for both cores if it doesnt support it..doesnt make sense to me..but who knows maybe your right...

mrg02d said:
Enough with Quadrant bashing. It shows useful FPS information and is relative. Now, if it only went to 2500 no matter what ROM you are using then yes, it would be useless. But getting a 1400 on it with one ROM and then getting a 2600 on it with another ROM AINT useless information.
Matt
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I'm not the only one on here that believes that it isn't a reliable benchmark.
Have a look at some of the threads about it.
Since android is a multi-tasking OS results will always vary from test to test in Quadrant.

Teg3 vs. S4 Boot and AnTuTu Vid (and a question)

Interesting comparison of the AT&T One X vs. international. Boot time on the AT&T version's pretty sluggish.
Now the question. This is a still from the video. Look at the difference in the menus. The One X has the setting dots by themselves and the AT&T version has them overlay options from the app. Is this the way it's implemented in production?
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I just did an antutu test on my rogers xl and i scored 6379. Video seems pretty accurate.

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I just did an antutu test on my rogers xl and i scored 6379. Video seems pretty accurate.
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And what does your menu look like? The one on the left or the one on the right?

Mine is much higher ...
mattymon said:
I just did an antutu test on my rogers xl and i scored 6379. Video seems pretty accurate.
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I've been scoring consistently between 6900 and 7020, so the video really doesn't say much.
Peter

First run of the test on my Rogers One X.

same scores as the user above
AT&T seeems to have an older version(build) of the software

PeterHTC said:
I've been scoring consistently between 6900 and 7020, so the video really doesn't say much.
Peter
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For either side...

This wasn't even a final build of the AT&T phone, notice the HTC branding on it on top, it probably didn't have the latest updates and such.

BarryH_GEG said:
Now the question. This is a still from the video. Look at the difference in the menus. The One X has the setting dots by themselves and the AT&T version has them overlay options from the app. Is this the way it's implemented in production?
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I would say so; to the right it looks like a down arrow ("hide" maybe?)- maybe there is a gesture to call it up once hidden? That would be sweet (9/10 times I don't need a menu button when using something- being able to "call it up" for that 1/10 would be awesome and give more screen real-estate)
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BarryH_GEG said:
Interesting comparison of the AT&T One X vs. international. Boot time on the AT&T version's pretty sluggish.
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I don't think this is the AT&T version. Here is a picture of the one @therulebookman was able to purchase early; note the AT&T logo at the top and the 1.73.502.1 software version (video's is 1.44.something).
I don't doubt that it is an S4 processor, but is definitely an unfinished build or test device...

I ran the test on our demo just now and scored 6700. So its accurate...
More interesting is that my Antutu benchmark shows GS3 stats. o_0

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I would say so; to the right it looks like a down arrow ("hide" maybe?)- maybe there is a gesture to call it up once hidden? That would be sweet (9/10 times I don't need a menu button when using something- being able to "call it up" for that 1/10 would be awesome and give more screen real-estate)
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Yes, I believe that's actually also in a later rom version for the international version to that the one on the left hasn't been updated to. Alot of people complained about the weird placement of the menu key since the rest of the buttons are capacitive and you don't have the softkeys with the HOX.

lol i just ran antutu on my captivate and 6700 is looking pretty damn good compared to 2900

That is the AT&T version, but if you look at the top left you can see some odd etchings, early test device and software.
Ignore this video...

designgears said:
Ignore this video...
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Can you look at this thread and respond? It's not a XL issue but I'd be interested in a devs perspective. Thx.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619432

Well it's beating my AT&T Note which has the S3 SoC.
Getting 6226 on AnTuTu with no overclock

Just ran it on my SGSII (bell version) and scored 6158
ram: 898
cpu int: 1699
cpu float: 1334
2d: 298 (higher than the one XL)
3d: 1233 (higher than the one XL)
data IO: 390
sd write: 11.3
sd read: 28.5 (onboard memory)
cpu freq: 1200mhz
Seems to me the GPU speed is on par even with the new ONE XL

equlizer said:
Just ran it on my SGSII (bell version) and scored 6158
ram: 898
cpu int: 1699
cpu float: 1334
2d: 298 (higher than the one XL)
3d: 1233 (higher than the one XL)
data IO: 390
sd write: 11.3
sd read: 28.5 (onboard memory)
cpu freq: 1200mhz
Seems to me the GPU speed is on par even with the new ONE XL
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More than double the pixels on the htc one xl lowers the score in graphics. I do admit the cpu is doing well on the sgs2.
Regarding Tegra3 vs Snapdragon s4, antutu is about the best use case for a quadcore. There are few real world mobile apps that even max out a dual core. In general use the snapdragon s4 is only slightly slower.

Well this is what my Gnex is doing with a ROM, kernel, OCed and speeds maxed. And the 1X is easily beating it on the stock ROM, and stock clock. Color me impressed.