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Cappy dilemma

OK, I've had my Captivate for 3 weeks now and while I really like it, I have a major decision to make before my window to return it closes. Coming from a WinMo Tilt 2 I was somewhat put off by it not being as easy to mod, but I can live with that. I bought it mainly because of Samsung's promise to upgrade it to Froyo. Looks like that was a mistake. I'm willing to root it to remove the bloat and allow sideloading, but I haven't yet felt comfortable to think about a custom ROM. Not sure I ever will as it is much different from doing the same on a WinMo phone. The biggest gripe I have, though, is the GPS performance. I've had both ends of the spectrum as far as getting locks with different programs, insode and outside, and lost lock several times while navigating in the car, both here in Cali and in Florida. I mountain bike and use my phone to track my rides, so GPS is important to me. My Tilt worked excellently in that regard.
So, do I keep it and just learn to live with it, even though it looks like AT$T will have some really nice Android offerings in the near future, or do I cut my losses (about $100 worth of Cappy accessories I already purchased) and return it before my 30 days are up? I like the form factor, the performance, the way it plays my converted movies and all the apps available for it, but the crappy GPS and dismal battery life are really starting to bug me. What say you, XDA community?

Honestly I'd just bite the bullet & return it. Using Phoenix rom you could have great GPS but there's really gonna be some better **** coming out. That's what ID do.
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Return it, and stick to old phone. There are couple of good phones lined up to be released within the end of first quarter '11.

sure would miss an active member who knows what he's talking about in the captivate sub

I just seen in yahoos homepage about att new phones announced at the CES show, check it out, the one that has my interest is the"samsung infuse 4g" search to see photos if it, looks like captivate but bigger, I know why samsung or att hasn't released 2.2 because looks like they just moved on. Features include: 4.5 inch super omled screen, 8mp camera with 1.3mp front having camera, 1.2 ghz hummingbird processor, 2.2 froyo upgradeable to 2.3 "so they say unless they just move on again with a new phone" up to a 48gb sd card. And running hspda or 3g+, but att is calling this 4g. I have this on my cappy now with doc v7 rom now and it is faster than 3g.
I would just wait, they also announced others, check the site.
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Thanks for the input, guys. Well, I decided to keep the Cappy. Here's why: I only paid $49 for it on upgrade. The newer batch of Android phones will not see that kind of pricing for at least 6 months, likely longer. I spoke to an AT$T rep and she assured me that they are committed to providing the promised Froyo update ASAP. No time frame, but it will happen. My biggest complaint is with the GPS and I have done some things to improve it, at least outdoors, so I think I can live with it for my mountain bike excursions. I rarely use it for in-car navigation. Was more of a novelty while I was visiting Florida over the holidays.
So, thanks again to all that responded and XDA in general. I'm going to root my Cappy and remove the bloat in the next few days. Oh, and my 1800mah battery came yesterday and I'm currently conditioning it to see if it has any benefit over stock. Will post in that thread.

Return it. I wish i had... They promised me the Froyo update asap back in august when i bought the phone. i made a HUGE mistake buying this phone. i HATE AT&T

Miami_Son said:
So, thanks again to all that responded and XDA in general. I'm going to root my Cappy and remove the bloat in the next few days.
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Flash a Froyo ROM and apply Da_G's GPS fix (if it's not built in to the ROM). You won't regret it.
Actually, if you wait a day or so, you'll be able to flash a bone-stock Captivate Froyo ROM from Rogers.

I just can't go back to my Tilt 2. I loved that phone, but it feels like a dinosaur, now. What if I do wipe the Cappy and return it? When I get another Android phone would I be able to download all my paid apps from Market without having to repurchase them? Is Market activity phone or user specific?

Don't quote me but I think its linked to your google acc. That you sign into to pay for apps
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harleydad82 said:
Don't quote me but I think its linked to your google acc. That you sign into to pay for apps
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When I lost my Captivate on the Haul road and was sent a new one, all my paid apps popped up in the Market ready for installation as soon as I'd set up my Google account. So I think you're right.

It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.

Archpope said:
It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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You're right.
It's a worthless POS WITH Froyo.

Archpope said:
It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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Which is why I'm willing to keep it. I am always amazed at the people who get so bummed when a new phone comes out as if it rendered their current phone inoperative. You're right that Froyo isn't a big deal, but a better working GPS and Flash support are desirable features. Samsung and AT$T just need to follow through on their promise of the update. If they don't, I'll still be happy with the phone, but it will definitely be the last Samsung product I'll buy. I stopped buying their HDTVs when the last one took a dump and I couldn't get warranty service.

You could also exchange it for a new one based on the poor GPS performance. I mean if it doesn't work right, they should exchange it with no questios asked right? Since it seems that the GPS issue is hit and miss with these phone, you may get one that works good right out of the box.
I went to the warranty center this past weekend and exchanged my Captivate for another one because of the GPS and a couple of shutdowns over the last 2 1/2 mos and the replacement I got has much improved GPS.

I've actually got my GPS dialed in and working pretty well right now.

Should have returned it. At&t has been bs'ing us on the froyo update since Google announced it. I'm enjoying my Phoenix rom but I wish I had the real deal. I'll be buying the motorolla with that duel core when it drops
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Miami_Son said:
I've actually got my GPS dialed in and working pretty well right now.
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Glad to hear that.
I would keep it considering how much you got it for. I mean, $49 is a good deal for this phone even with its issues. When I got mine, I paid the same for a refurb.

Hope I can sell my captivate for a decent price and upgrade to the new motorola or htc phone relatively cheaply. I love this phone, but I hate it at the same time. Will be nice to not have to worry about lagfixes, scetchy gps, and updates that take damn near forever. Main thing I will miss is of course the samoled screen.
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Yea good luck with trying to sell it... at least here on XDA.
Might be luckier if you eBay/Craigs List it and hope some poor sap is willing to pay for it.
The whole Galaxy S line has a horrible reputation now - even the Nexus S!
I was hoping to trade for an AT&T Nexus... but A) they wouldn't take it as a trade and B) they wanted cash to go along with it.
Meh - I'll be keeping this phone till it pukes and then upgrade when the year comes up. At this point I don't care if AT&T ever releases a true Froyo update.

Inspire 4G to Galaxy S II

Just Curious, anyone planning on upgrading to the Galaxy S II when it becomes available?
(Also, is a rooted / custom ROM phone also unlocked?)
Nick

IIRC, the Samsung Galaxy S II has an unlocked bootloader, so yes, developers will probably start writing custom ROMs for it.
For me, I'm going to keep this phone until my 2-year contract is up. Even if I had a chance to upgrade to Galaxy S II for free, I wouldn't, because I personally don't like Samsung phones.

I don't understand these questions...This phone just came out what in Feb? Most peeps are in a 2 year contract. I know I am....
I know there are some who buy out of contract but really why ask here and not in the forum for the phone you are in question of?
Most people are going to answer you with a no.

i plan to get the HTC Holiday off-contract but only if it has an unlocked bootloader

tweaked said:
I don't understand these questions...This phone just came out what in Feb? Most peeps are in a 2 year contract. I know I am....
I know there are some who buy out of contract but really why ask here and not in the forum for the phone you are in question of?
Most people are going to answer you with a no.
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Yeah, I'm curious if people will want to switch enough to sell their current phones and buy unlocked. I'm not sure if these things sell well on ebay, but that's what I've done in the past when new iPhones came out.

My Inspire Its New, its in the market over 11 Feb, we don't need to change the phone yet.
Enjoy your Machine

HELL to the NO!
Samsung products are banned from my house.
I'm eligible for a new phone in January, I'll probably stick with HTC.
For "old tech" the Inspire is a kick ass device. Stable as all get out with lots of dev activity. Lots to love about it.

Wow... someone's so pretty rich here. Good for u.
I plan to keep this phone atleast till March next year, when I'll be due for upgrade.

gunnyman said:
For "old tech" the Inspire is a kick ass device. Stable as all get out with lots of dev activity. Lots to love about it.
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+1
I under clocked to ~700 and it is still so snappy!!!

Yeah, I have to say, I've installed CM7 (stable), and I am SUPER impressed with how fast this thing is now.
I was just curious, I see that you all love this phone very much. Makes me happy with my choice. (My wife shattered her phone, and I picked this one up same day, not my usual month long research)
So, as a former iPhone 4 users, if you could give me one android tip or suggestion, what would it be?

ampsonic said:
Yeah, I have to say, I've installed CM7 (stable), and I am SUPER impressed with how fast this thing is now.
I was just curious, I see that you all love this phone very much. Makes me happy with my choice. (My wife shattered her phone, and I picked this one up same day, not my usual month long research)
So, as a former iPhone 4 users, if you could give me one android tip or suggestion, what would it be?
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stay away from motorola and samsung... other then that you should be golden.

ampsonic said:
So, as a former iPhone 4 users, if you could give me one android tip or suggestion, what would it be?
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Stay away from task killers that kill tasks at regular intervals. U could use them to kill a stray app though.
I would recommend reading the thread "android memory management" (permanent link in my signature) to learn how android memory management works.

diablo009 said:
Stay away from task killers that kill tasks at regular intervals. U could use them to kill a stray app though.
I would recommend reading the thread "android memory management" (permanent link in my signature) to learn how android memory management works.
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Yep, I learned that pretty quick. Thanks!

ampsonic said:
So, as a former iPhone 4 users, if you could give me one android tip or suggestion, what would it be?
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Nandroids are your best friend...

im planning on buying another Inspire. How bout those apples.

I'm keeping this phone till my upgrade in December. Then, hello Holiday!
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I've used the i**** and used the sgs vibrant and captivate. And then I saw the infuse and lmao.... Huge and cheap. Samsung may make a OK screen but I need a solid body to protect it. Hell no htc all the way
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I will preface this by saying while I make really good money( and work damned hard for it) I am not rich.
I have 2 inspires, one off contract and one on, and you can bet your sweet ass I will be getting the gs2. That is provided it lives up the hype and has proper dev support, which I imagine it will. I understand that in the inspire forum your gonna have a hard time finding anyone saying its not the best phone ever for all time, but I am not the typical owner. I dont have a "pride of ownership" complex. While I lOVE this phone, its far from perfect. The battery is a joke, the bluetooth radio is really weak, the cellular radio has a hard time, and the bottom/side covers fit poorly. Not my opinion, just what it is. The only thing that may be a bit subjective is the cellular radio signal. Buttttt I have tested 5 brand new inspires against a captivate,aria,iphone, and a dumbphone and it always has the weakest signal (in db's not F'in bars). I have flashed every radio/ril known to man, and while it will fluctuate a bit from one to another, as an average its mostly the same. I am talking strictly in signal strength (both edge/hspa) no stupid bars or speedtest.net results. I also tested the bluetooth on 3 inspires myself and had a friend test 2 and all did the same thing. It will start to break up bad if you cover the antenna(side cover) with your hand or move away from the source. This again is something I dont experience with my other plethora of phones. I tested it with 2 headsets and 2 different aftermarket headunits(car stereo). As for the battery, well come on do I really have to explain myself there. While I have gotten to get my phone to last most of the day, its still sub par.
Now dont get me wrong I absolutely love this phone, if not why would I buy 2, one off contract. Its fast, beautiful, made of quality materials, has an awesome screen, and best of all has AMAZING dev support. I only explain my issue cause I know Im gonna get flamed. I am just one of those guys that doesn't think that its the best because I own it. When we own stuff we tend to overlook issues and focus on the positives, which is fine provided it doesn't cloud your judgement. I love and have owned mustangs and camaros. I have also owned and loved yamaha's,honda's,kawasaki's,suzuki bikes. I love toys/gadgets of every maker and flavor. Hell I own an svt lightning but still dig the srt-10 and the cheby ss. And yes I have a drawer full of smartphones from htc,palm,samsung, and yes even the rotten apple.

stickbo said:
I will preface this by saying while I make really good money( and work damned hard for it) I am not rich.
I have 2 inspires, one off contract and one on, and you can bet your sweet ass I will be getting the gs2. That is provided it lives up the hype and has proper dev support, which I imagine it will. I understand that in the inspire forum your gonna have a hard time finding anyone saying its not the best phone ever for all time, but I am not the typical owner. I dont have a "pride of ownership" complex. While I lOVE this phone, its far from perfect. The battery is a joke, the bluetooth radio is really weak, the cellular radio has a hard time, and the bottom/side covers fit poorly. Not my opinion, just what it is. The only thing that may be a bit subjective is the cellular radio signal. Buttttt I have tested 5 brand new inspires against a captivate,aria,iphone, and a dumbphone and it always has the weakest signal (in db's not F'in bars). I have flashed every radio/ril known to man, and while it will fluctuate a bit from one to another, as an average its mostly the same. I am talking strictly in signal strength (both edge/hspa) no stupid bars or speedtest.net results. I also tested the bluetooth on 3 inspires myself and had a friend test 2 and all did the same thing. It will start to break up bad if you cover the antenna(side cover) with your hand or move away from the source. This again is something I dont experience with my other plethora of phones. I tested it with 2 headsets and 2 different aftermarket headunits(car stereo). As for the battery, well come on do I really have to explain myself there. While I have gotten to get my phone to last most of the day, its still sub par.
Now dont get me wrong I absolutely love this phone, if not why would I buy 2, one off contract. Its fast, beautiful, made of quality materials, has an awesome screen, and best of all has AMAZING dev support. I only explain my issue cause I know Im gonna get flamed. I am just one of those guys that doesn't think that its the best because I own it. When we own stuff we tend to overlook issues and focus on the positives, which is fine provided it doesn't cloud your judgement. I love and have owned mustangs and camaros. I have also owned and loved yamaha's,honda's,kawasaki's,suzuki bikes. I love toys/gadgets of every maker and flavor. Hell I own an svt lightning but still dig the srt-10 and the cheby ss. And yes I have a drawer full of smartphones from htc,palm,samsung, and yes even the rotten apple.
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I see yer issue. Harley's are the only "Motor Cycles" and samsung sux.

Def picking up SG2 when it comes out.

LG ... secretly discontinuing the g2x?

So ... just went on lg website and was confused why the g2x is no longer listed in the smart phone tab. In fact the only place its listed is when you click "all phones". Its weird because all other phones pale in comparison even the " new" revolution ( single core snapdragon) is like a total step backwards. Any thoughts why? Me personally, I love my g2x and will probably keep it for the length of my tmo contract.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "

It's still on the site though. That's a pretty wild assumption to make just because it's in a different category than you'd expect.

I highly doubt LG is secretly discontinuing their flagship phone a few months after launch.

I don't think they will discontinue their greatest phone.
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business is business, release it, let it stay in the limelight for a while then move it other so something else can get attention. All about the $$$

That has been like that for a while now. When I first went to LG's site to look at the phone back in mid May it was hard for me to find it on their site. I'm not sure why it is not listed in the Smartphone category unless it is just an oversight by those who manage the website.

Perfectly said. With the giant like Samsung Galaxy S II around the corner, once the SGSII is released it will age the current phones dramatically.
LG has to keep up with the times...particularly in the design department. You hold up the G2X against the HTC Sensation and even the SGSII (although it is simple it is very elegant) it makes the G2X look like grandpa.
It's all about the $
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business is business, release it, let it stay in the limelight for a while then move it other so something else can get attention. All about the $$$
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Personal preference I guess. Rather have my G2x over either of those.
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iunlock said:
Perfectly said. With the giant like Samsung Galaxy S II around the corner, once the SGSII is released it will age the current phones dramatically.
LG has to keep up with the times...particularly in the design department. You hold up the G2X against the HTC Sensation and even the SGSII (although it is simple it is very elegant) it makes the G2X look like grandpa.
It's all about the $
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What's so amazing about the SGSII that we don't currently have on the G2x?

hiko36 said:
What's so amazing about the SGSII that we don't currently have on the G2x?
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OC to 1.7 ghz.
Bigger screen.
I was thinking about grabbing a gs2 when it hits here. Depends on what the T-Mobile flavor ends up being (Hercules?) But only if its a significant difference between that and their international version.
Next phone I'm gonna end up getting is probably gonna have a quadcore. I think im future proofed enough.
@OP T-Mobile also took it off their website "Supply restraints." and there was also a leak from tmonews that it'd be going up in price to 300 on contract.
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mr.frankm said:
OC to 1.7 ghz.
Bigger screen.
I was thinking about grabbing a gs2 when it hits here. Depends on what the T-Mobile flavor ends up being (Hercules?) But only if its a significant difference between that and their international version.
Next phone I'm gonna end up getting is probably gonna have a quadcore. I think im future proofed enough.
@OP T-Mobile also took it off their website "Supply restraints." and there was also a leak from tmonews that it'd be going up in price to 300 on contract.
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...1.5 Ghz stable...up to 1.5 Phones Only for benchmarking

avetny said:
...1.5 Ghz stable...up to 1.5 Phones Only for benchmarking
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Antutu benchmark has 1.7 ghz gt-i9100's.
Oh and they have neon (?) - assumption.
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If anyone thinks LG won't drop support of their flagship phone, you should look at what they did with the Expo (Monaco) when it was released.

I checked their website. It flashes the G2X when you open their Smartphone screen, then disappears. If you go to All Phones - it is there.
Maybe they are trying to tell buyers it is not "smart" to buy one right now as a smart phone - lol.

Samsung sucks and you're a fool if you give them business...galaxy s was a joke and sammy will find a way to screw up the sgs2 and rip off their customers.
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Yesterday, a t-mobile employee told me that they weren't going to offer it anymore. Said they were going to discontinue it.

Daveheelga said:
Yesterday, a t-mobile employee told me that they weren't going to offer it anymore. Said they were going to discontinue it.
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By Tmo rep you mean a CSR that you got on the phone?
They don't know **** from brownies.

Well it doesn't look good for the g2x. This is kind of an update to my original post. My woman's phone finally went suck-mode. It will now, not stop re-booting itself or do the screen freeze. At least 8 or more times a day. So I call tmo, which in itself was disappointing trying to charge me 20$ restocking fee or whatever they labeled it. Not to mention the Rep tried to play dumb saying tmo was unaware of the 'big 3 " issues. She later admited they did know, they just weeny ready to make it official. Anyways long story short I finally get the fee wave and she's about to tell how long the back order iswhen she says " oh... looks like its been pulled.
Me: the g2x?
Tmo Rep: yes. But don't worry you'll still get yours.
How can a company be allowed to
A. Either deliberately tell there employyees to decieve the customers on information such as known problems or issues or
B. Have such an incompatant workforce where each employee makes up their own answers.
I'm gonna go down with the ship I guess. I'm never gonna trade myg2x in. Untilled it starts messing up which I hope is never.
BTW the womans phone is pure unmolested stock no root.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "

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Samsung sucks and you're a fool if you give them business...galaxy s was a joke and sammy will find a way to screw up the sgs2 and rip off their customers.
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They won my heart back after there recent move which showed just how much they want to be involved in Android development. I think right now Samsung has the best display technology out there and in my opinion they make the best looking LED's and LCD's. They also managed to squeeze more power out of a dual core mobile CPU than anyone else has and if you remember, they also managed to squeeze more power out of a single core mobile CPU (Hummingbird) than anyone else. They have there problems just like everyone else. I haven't seen a perfect phone yet from any manufacturer. I don't know about everyone else but I have no problem supporting a company that is going to give a SGSII to the Cyanogen team so they can start developing for it. It would be stupid on my part to write off the company who sells more mobile phones per year than anyone else.

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They won my heart back after there recent move which showed just how much they want to be involved in Android development. I think right now Samsung has the best display technology out there and in my opinion they make the best looking LED's and LCD's. They also managed to squeeze more power out of a dual core mobile CPU than anyone else has and if you remember, they also managed to squeeze more power out of a single core mobile CPU (Hummingbird) than anyone else. They have there problems just like everyone else. I haven't seen a perfect phone yet from any manufacturer. I don't know about everyone else but I have no problem supporting a company that is going to give a SGSII to the Cyanogen team so they can start developing for it. It would be stupid on my part to write off the company who sells more mobile phones per year than anyone else.
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Who would of thought that Samsung would have gone from goat to hero so quickly. It wasn't too long ago that people wanted their heads for froyogate. However atm, they are the most dev friendly company out there. I would have no problem supporting them in the future. That being said, one of my colleagues owns a SGS2 (on the AT&T network) and while on paper it's a beast, in reality I really couldn't discern a real difference between the sgs2 and g2x.

Upgrade or Stay with the Captivate

Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks

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Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks
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I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.

Well the Captivate was the first Android I had and it's so versatile. And I see developers are porting ICS for it. But I can't argue with the power and awesomeness of the SGS2

if I were you I would try an ics ROM. I would recommend docs Master ics (v3.1)
My cappy is blazing fast. I'm talking 0 lag!
MC 3 runs completely smooth with not a hint of stutter or lag. That's with no over clocking! When I oc/live oc it with nstools, I can get it up to 1500mghz.
Run it for a while and wait for the sgs 3.
Hope this helps you on your decision.
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I'm loving ICS and the anker battery on the cappy, it changed my decision on wanting to upgrade now. My upgrade was eligible last Oct, but I holding out till summer when all the quad-cores come out (I HOPE!!).

Yea, I guess waiting is always an option, especially if more powerful phones are still to come! I'll look more into ICS and see what I can do, I'm on Serendipity 7 right now and it's pretty laggy, at least for me.

I went from a Captivate running S7 to a SGSII. To say the SGSII blows away the Captivate is an understatement. I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread. If you get one, don't update to 2.3.6. It has battery drain issues.
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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.

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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.
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Well isn't the sgs2 slated for an ICS upgrade? I know Samsung said that the captivate won't get ICS. And we all know how much of an ordeal it was just to get froyo, let alone gingerbread on it, so it'll probably be the same way for the sgs2, but it has better specs than the Nexus

If I were you I would upgrade in a heart beat. Hardware-wise the Captivate just can't compete with the dual-cores phone you mentioned. And the battery from the Maxx is a beast!
Keep in mind that AT&T is now charging doubled the upgrade fee (from $18 to $36). Switching to Verzion can easily get you free activation + free shipping via some online retailer in addition to their "Twice the data, same low price" data promo, which is quite a deal unless you got grandfathered with AT&T previous data plan.
I also loved the Galaxy S II, only downside is no 4G LTE with the exception of the Skyrocket. Rumor has it that Skyrocket HD is coming to AT&T, with a full 720p Super AMOLED screen upgrade from a 480x800. You might want to wait on that.
Just my two cents.

task650 said:
I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.
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What he said

I still love my C(r)aptivate. I loathed it something aweful because of the utterly fail GPS, but all-in-all it's still a fantastic phone. Seeing that I have the LG Thrill as my main phone(I use nav a lot and needed better gps or i wouldn't have) which just came out and is still on FROYO and a phone that came out last July already has Gingerbread...It's nice to know that it is still supported. A lot is to be said about not having a contract being held over your head too. Personally if I were you I would keep the Captivate and leave my options open. Some awesome phones will be coming out Q3 this year. I'm looking forward to the Tegra 3 powered HTC Endeavor. Bide your time and know you can jump ship to another carrier any time you choose. IMHO

Yea, the GPS was a huge fail, I actually sent back my first one because apparently the first manufactured devices were "defective" but even after I got a new one my GPS didn't improve much. The captivate is under powered, but it sounds like some pretty awesome phones are in the works and not having a contract allows for some breathing room. I guess I'll just see which carrier releases the most desirable phone in the next few months or so and go from there.

rompus said:
I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread.
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Really? No interests in customization? Cuz rooting the phone for reasons you listed is a rather poor use of root access... No such thing as "good" stock!
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The captivate is under powered,
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No it's not, if anything call it "outdated." The device is getting close to two years old! When it came out no one was honestly considering a PHONE having a dual-core CPU. In all honesty they don't need it! Quad-core is just ridicules... The ICS ROMs we have now show that the phone is by no means under powered.
As to the other idea, all I can say is that AT&T seems to be getting more and more greedy, their practices more sleazy... Or at least being faster to jump on ways to improve profits and reduce costs, of which we the customers are seeing no benefits...
leaked from my ICS- FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.

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leaked[/I] from my ICS- FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.
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Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.

nuclearwinterxxx said:
Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.
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I know what you mean here... I've been with them since Cingular as well and I know the prices will go up over time, but their service hasn't improved one bit. One big bonus of Verizon is the coverage they have nationwide is FAR superior to AT&T's. When you have to sell a Microcell to imporve coverage in your customer's houses, you know you need to upgrade your service. Verizon will probably end up having the better LTE network too, as AT&T never went nationwide 3G, as Verizon did looong ago

I'm switching to Verizon as well in March. Why? Att and their throttling madness .I get throttle every month right around the 2gb mark 2 weeks into my billing cycle after that data is unusable. I just sold my Sgs2 skyrocket yesterday using the captivate until my contract is over .
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I got the captivate the second day the phone came out, so I have the phone with all the problems. I ALMOST upgraded to the SGS2, until teamhacksung's ICS rom came out. It runs so smoothly that it actually makes my captivate usable! I would suggest waiting for the SGS3; thats what I am doing. Why buy a phone that has been out for a long time (SGS2) when the upgrade is just around the corner!
No matter how good these ROMs get, it is impossible to fix my terrible GPS, connection dropping issues, battery drains, and random crashes.

I just read an article about the throttling and how inconsistent it is at various data limits. I just can't believe they get away with it. It just shows how inferior their network is to Verizon if Verizon can handle it smoothly. Yea the SGS3 is worth waiting for. I think I'm gonna try ICS on my Captivate for now and hopefully that will hold me long enough. I just hate that it doesn't have a front facing camera.

Cappy still rules!
1. On stock ROMs - they don't cut it. XDA matured to fix all bugs and shortcomings of manufacturer ROM.
2. May be skip AT&T upgrade alltogether? See what they did to GSII Skyrocket and Note? Bastardized and downgraded to Snapdragon old chip.
3. Get GSII from ebay, may be? It is around 500 now.

Anyone else buy the G2X because it was so close to Vanilla Android?

One of the reasons I went with this phone roughly 22 months ago was that it was expected to get updates to Android very quickly, since it didn't have Sense or some other heavy overlay.
Funny, huh? Since it ended up one of the WORST phones I could have picked for any real updates. Ahh, the irony.
Anyone else do the same thing? I honestly can't wait to chuck this thing, and now that it's down to $50 per line to get out of my contract 2 months early, I'm very tempted to do so and pick up a Droid DNA on Verizon or some other powerhouse.

It's not worth getting any android phone that isn't Nexus or has a huge HUGE base (galaxy s3). I wouldn't trust the DROID DNA, honestly. Verizon can really suck with updates, too.
Don't make the same mistake again.
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You should wait for May at least to see what Google rolls out, whether it is the moto X phone or something else. Also Id be surprised why you would do verizon and agree to pay prob at least $30 more per month when you can stick with Tmo or go simple talk with an unlocked GSM phone.

I got his phone for two reasons.
1. Because it was vanilla.
2. As soon as I heard nvidia was making tegra I checked everyday for news on the it's release.
Yes I waited a long ass time and nvidia didnt put out a tegra till they came out with tegra 2.
But I'm still happy with this phone.
Go to any phone thread, they all say the same thing.
"worst phone ever"
"worst company ever"
People are never happy.
This phone competes with phones coming out today with a proper stable ROM and I think that is great.

No it doesn't compete with phones coming out today. Don't try to ignore the truth.
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Overclocked to 1.55 ghz with the supercharger on aggressive, it performs well. I can do anything any new phone can do! (except take good pictures, camera became ****)

I also remember watching a promo video by LG on Tmo website claiming "pure vanilla Android experience." That along with the G2x name - hinting at G1 roots- and other factors (dual core, Tegra, etc.) falsely presumed timely updates or at least easy ROM updating. I came from the pure vanilla original Droid. I wanted the same experience. Boy did I make the same huge ironic mistake. Trouble is, this is the phone I switched my wife off her iPhone for. Disappointing at best.
True, there are some great devs who have made this phone passable. Unfortunately, TEGRA/nvidia had their hands cuffed and LG won't supply them with a key. Tmo is an enabler in the whole debacle.
Besides, even though I always will root my phone, one shouldn't have to for reliable functionality.
I think the only Android phone I will ever buy is a Nexus. Wait,I can't even buy an effing Nexus! LG should allow special Nexus purchasing concessions for all g2x owners. It might help me get rid of this nasty taste in my mouth
Now this phone is to old and too forgotten to have any hope. If you love this phone, great. But, my etudes phone is still completely stock. If you haven't driven a completely stock g2x lately. Try it. It is a pathetic sluggish joke that might be funny if it didn't freeze up during the performance all day long.
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You forgot to note that its horrible battery life as well with those mods.
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Yes, the almost vanilla Android was a major reason I got a G2x. Like others, I assumed that meant quick updates. And while I agree that it has very solid hardware that should perform better today than it would with old software, it's still nothing like the Note 2 I got to replace it.
As other have mentioned, a big failure with the phone, other than updates, is the camera. I have small kids, and the 2 second lag makes the camera next to useless. Even if the kids hold still long enough, the camera quality isn't very good.
Overall, I was happy with the phone for most of the 18 months I had it. If it had a better camera and got reasonable updates, I probably would have waited until my contract was up (although t-mo was great about upgrading me early, to my surprise).

Irishdoom said:
One of the reasons I went with this phone roughly 22 months ago was that it was expected to get updates to Android very quickly, since it didn't have Sense or some other heavy overlay.
Funny, huh? Since it ended up one of the WORST phones I could have picked for any real updates. Ahh, the irony.
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My words exactly. It was my first android and I did enjoy it, very briefly. Until the first freeze and random reboot. Of course that happened while I still could have returned the damn korean crap but I figured tmo and lg said they'll fix it right away, and they couldn't possibly abandon their customers right?!
Anyway. Finally dumped that piece of shmit and got a gs3. Can't be happier with this device, xda and t-mobile truly unlim h+

Irishdoom said:
One of the reasons I went with this phone roughly 22 months ago was that it was expected to get updates to Android very quickly, since it didn't have Sense or some other heavy overlay.
Funny, huh? Since it ended up one of the WORST phones I could have picked for any real updates. Ahh, the irony.
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Ditto here. This was my first foray into the smart phone world (had a feature phone previously) and the big reason I got it was because of the "pure vanilla Android experience" they were touting about it. I expected frequent updates, and a phone I'd be using for years.
Now, I'm torn. I actually still love my phone, but the lack of any *stock* update is disappointing. There are lots of roms/mods out there, but none of them are perfect, and I'm not hard core enough to try out different ones.
Actually, if I could just have a GPS that worked 95% of the time I'd be pretty happy. I've tried so many different tweaks and still can't get it to work fast and consistently.
And as much as I'd love to upgrade and get a Nexus 4 (which I'm close to being eligible for) the lack of a removable battery and an SD slot are VERY big downers.

Xtronomy said:
No it doesn't compete with phones coming out today. Don't try to ignore the truth.
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If it couldn't keep up then you wouldn't still be seeing kernels and ROMs being made and updated for this phone.
LG may have never gave the phone the support it deserved but this site sure has and I thank them for that.

Actually support of g2x is dying. Many great devs have moved on to better and newer phones.
LG never again for me! That's why I was so disappointed when goggles announced nexus 4 by lg...

Verizon SUCKS with updates, and they tried their damndest to keep certain apps widgets and irons of my new Note 2. Thankfully, that's why XDA exists. The bootloader took awhile to get unlocked, but we finally have some kernel/rom options and development from other carriers is making its way to our forums. God stuff.
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PainfulLover said:
Actually support of g2x is dying. Many great devs have moved on to better and newer phones.
LG never again for me! That's why I was so disappointed when goggles announced nexus 4 by lg...
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Its more nvidias fault then lg's. Nvidia is closed source so ofc there not gonna try and help LG out by giving them the drivers they needed for hw acceleration. If anything Google choosing LG for the nexus 4 boosted LG as a company as they actually release updates every other day practically, it is a nexus phone.. Just look at how well the LG nexus 4 has sold for proof. Nvidia and there closed source tegra need to stay off android IMO as they only hurt and delay android devices getting updated.
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