[Q] Help the Noob with definitions... - EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok, it's my first Droid phone, so these questions are going to seem incredibly stupid, but I'm just not sure what some of these acronyms mean:
RUU
AOSP
WIP
DeOdexed
And if the acronym isn't self-explanatory, a bit of explanation as to what these things are would be appreciated.
I'd like to be able to start contributing from time to time around here, but I often get stumped halfway through a thread trying to figure out what the hell someone's talking about.

James.Q.Campbell said:
Ok, it's my first Droid phone, so these questions are going to seem incredibly stupid, but I'm just not sure what some of these acronyms mean:
RUU
AOSP
WIP
DeOdexed
And if the acronym isn't self-explanatory, a bit of explanation as to what these things are would be appreciated.
I'd like to be able to start contributing from time to time around here, but I often get stumped halfway through a thread trying to figure out what the hell someone's talking about.
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RUU = Rom Update Utility (ones posted here are usually from the manufacturer to restore your phone in case you mess up)
AOSP = Android Open Source Project (here that usually refers to a ROM that's pure android)
WIP = Work In Progress (usually a ROM or app that's not considered stable yet)
Deodexed = (not sure what it stands for but I know a ROM can be odex which can't be themed and deodexed that can be themed)
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Dread 7us said:
RUU = Rom Update Utility (ones posted here are usually from the manufacturer to restore your phone in case you mess up)
AOSP = Android Open Source Project (here that usually refers to a ROM that's pure android)
WIP = Work In Progress (usually a ROM or app that's not considered stable yet)
Deodexed = (not sure what it stands for but I know a ROM can be odex which can't be themed and deodexed that can be themed)
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And odex is a part of an app file that is separate from the app APK (Application installer kit, I believe, essentially is a .exe for android). Having this file allows for slightly faster boots as the boot information is stored in a separate file however it makes themeing very difficult. When a rom is DeOdexed it means the odex file has been merged with APK file hence it has been de-odexed!)
Hope that clears things up!

Ah, thanks.
Appreciate the help.

James.Q.Campbell said:
Ok, it's my first Droid phone, so these questions are going to seem incredibly stupid, but I'm just not sure what some of these acronyms mean:
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This is your first Android phone. Not a Droid. Droid is by Verizon and is a brand not an OS.
I'm Shifting on 4G.

riggsandroid said:
This is your first Android phone. Not a Droid. Droid is by Verizon and is a brand not an OS.
I'm Shifting on 4G.
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Was that necessary? A simple
Droid is a line of Android phones on Verizon fyi
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Would have worked fine.
Also, Droid is not a brand its a LucasArts trademark currently being used by Motorola, HTC, and Verizon for a certain line of Android smartphones. Don't correct people when you're wrong yourself. Bro.

Haha you said bro...
Anyways droid is not being used by HTC. And you know what he means by brand. He is trying to keep you from getting abused later by telling you what is up.
Why do 80% of all forum treads have to contain some sort of cat fight?
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BuddahWolf01 said:
Haha you said bro...
Anyways droid is not being used by HTC. And you know what he means by brand. He is trying to keep you from getting abused later by telling you what is up.
Why do 80% of all forum treads have to contain some sort of cat fight?
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The Droid Eris wasn't made by HTC? How about the Droid Incredible? Gosh you're right neither of those were HTC phones...oh wait, I guess they both were! Again, people really need to know their stuff before telling someone they're wrong =(
My point was that you don't need to be rude in telling someone they're wrong. I'm rude to rude people and nice to people who genuinely ask for help. Those who make assumptions and claims that are based entirely in the fiction of their minds while trying to prove other people wrong.
PS: I said 'bro' as a form of ironic mockery. Look it up sometime!
Oh and the reason "catfights" break out is because people like you two stroll in and act like a**hats!

kenvan19 said:
The Droid Eris wasn't made by HTC? How about the Droid Incredible? Gosh you're right neither of those were HTC phones...oh wait, I guess they both were! Again, people really need to know their stuff before telling someone they're wrong =(
My point was that you don't need to be rude in telling someone they're wrong. I'm rude to rude people and nice to people who genuinely ask for help. Those who make assumptions and claims that are based entirely in the fiction of their minds while trying to prove other people wrong.
PS: I said 'bro' as a form of ironic mockery. Look it up sometime!
Oh and the reason "catfights" break out is because people like you two stroll in and act like a**hats!
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My post was not rude. While Droid is a trademark owned by Lucas Film (as anyone can see on the fine print on their commercials) it is a BRAND of phones offered by Verizon. HTC and Motorola just call their phones what Verizon wants. Just as much as the EVO is now a brand of phones for Sprint.
Every thread you have posted in has turned into a fight and your posts only look to move the topic of discussion from what the OP intended by turning it personal. Please, if you cant use the forums as intended please refrain from "contributing".
Sorry OP if you think what I wrote was "rude", just trying to help you out with learning the lingo.

You are right about HTC after all, it was pretty late and I wasn't thinking clearly when I posted that. I was just taking up for riggs because I didn't find his post rude at all. He didn't add a smiley or anything... but at most it was just "straight forward." Your post is the first post in this thread that I would consider rude bro.
And he does have a point about alot of your posts being the posts that seem to start things off in a bad direction. (cat fight)

Please keep in friendly in here. We're all just here to develop and help Thank you

Related

Gingeritis where art thou?

So I logged on to see what activity had occurred during the day while I was out... and gingeritis is GONE!!! Anyone know where it went to? Did someone piss Chingy off? I need a case of Gingeritis...
Brought to to you by Charmin Ultra...
Mounting your girl...
I mean your drive...
Someone was too lazy to read, flashed his ROM, it wiped his data like its supposed to, and he decided to go off on Chingy so, Chingy bounced.
Sent from my Thunderbolt infected with Gingeritis 3D
Once again the moron that doesn't read ruins it for everyone else.
gingeritis can still be found at themikmik.com
Oh my hell... what a complete moron... Just lovely.
People like that have no business rooting their phones.
Psykonate said:
Someone was too lazy to read, flashed his ROM, it wiped his data like its supposed to, and he decided to go off on Chingy
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SEIZE HIM!!!
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you can find all of chingys work here guys plus many more of our teams roms and mods....
http://themikmik.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=271&sid=e9c50b1707b8dc36ef1abd3945d6b186
yet people say iphone users are immature...
not here...
That sucks how 1 person ruins everything
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Nothing has been ruined, instead of clicking on the link in the thread that would be posted here, which would take you to his forum, where you would click through another 6 different sub-forums, then find the thread just to get the download link.
Now all you do is just go to his site, instead of clicking on the link that would be in the thread here. He didn't stop developing the rom, he just stopped posting the change log here... OH NO WHAT WILL WEZ DOZ NOW?!?!?
He left, it's done and over with, how about people grow up and stop acting like it's the end of the world. If he had just said "I'm only going to post on my site because I choose to do so" everyone would be calling him an ass. But because someone "made him leave " everyone wants to flame someone who expressed an opinion...
g00s3y said:
Nothing has been ruined, instead of clicking on the link in the thread that would be posted here, which would take you to his forum, where you would click through another 6 different sub-forums, then find the thread just to get the download link.
Now all you do is just go to his site, instead of clicking on the link that would be in the thread here. He didn't stop developing the rom, he just stopped posting the change log here... OH NO WHAT WILL WEZ DOZ NOW?!?!?
He left, it's done and over with, how about people grow up and stop acting like it's the end of the world. If he had just said "I'm only going to post on my site because I choose to do so" everyone would be calling him an ass. But because someone "made him leave " everyone wants to flame someone who expressed an opinion...
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Dude, stfu. No one in this thread acted like it was the end of the world. Quit acting like a douche.
Psykonate said:
Someone was too lazy to read, flashed his ROM, it wiped his data like its supposed to, and he decided to go off on Chingy so, Chingy bounced.
Sent from my Thunderbolt infected with Gingeritis 3D
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To be fair, it never said on the OP that the ROM would fully wipe, only that it was recommended, that's a big difference. Chingy and the people involved are all immature.
I was trying to decide which ROM to run, BAMF 3.0 or Gingeritis 3D, but Chingy decided for me.
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Some may agree some may not but the net is no place for thin skin. It takes little effort to be a keyboard Rambo. In my profession hate is everywhere and when the net was young and AOL 2600 was fast I to was there and little if anything has changed. Many forum have a ban or ignore button to remove users from a thread. I very often use it. (Don't know if xda does or not never needed to look). Many also have mods that stay on top of the threads and remove rif-RAF at will but even then people get upset and argue freespeech. Maybe this dev left cause he was tired of needing to police his thread or maybe other behind the black veil **** was going on and this event was just the last straw for him. But being a old fart Ive hard believing 1 troll ran him him off if in fact it was a normal 'poor me' blah-blah troll. Wipe or no wipe to be fair I've not seen 1 roms listed with out a disclaimer stating that said owner is responsible for said actions of owners phone and I know for fact this dev roms thread stated the same. The fact we all have to be thick skined doesn't mean that anyone has the right to flame and talk **** at will. Also I personally feel the disclaimer works both ways. This means to me that a dev or company or any entity which produces a product must accept that not all are going to always love said product and after all if a hot tub manufacturer must display a warning that if entered you may drown then why should a dev her at xda think that said downloaders are any smarter? No one that gets in a hot tub is that dumb that includes parents allowing kids around said tub unattended. The fact is if any of us produce or even give away anything then we accept that someone is gonna ***** about. If we can't handle that then we do need to take our product else where. However if any person finds this unknown land if milk and honey where all is good and as efficient as Al Gores Jock strap then please post said location here and count me in. Hell I'll even pay to move in.
For any noob that made it this far threw this post of diatribe and potential net manners that don't exist anywhere then your a brave soul so read this slowly. You are responsible for your phone and what you install. Wipe everytime even if not told to do so. If a problem does happen then post and ask for help. But know that someone may flame yer ass when you do. Is it right? No. But it may happen. After all what can said flamed do to you? Nothing really. However if you do allow said flamer to contaminate your pixels with meaningless bits of useless data and thus cause you to respond (much Luke this very post) then the said flamer has in fact won. Many here loved this devs work and while xda didn't make the dev it did help make the dev known and by default his work this means we all owe xda not the other way around. POSTING ones work here is not a right but a privilage leaving xda does hurt us all but it may just may hurt the dev just a wee bit more because of the message it sends to others. Then again maybe I myself am out of line for this view. I'm sure if I am then I'll be told so PDQ.
Peace...
cool story bro
g00s3y said:
Nothing has been ruined, instead of clicking on the link in the thread that would be posted here, which would take you to his forum, where you would click through another 6 different sub-forums, then find the thread just to get the download link.
Now all you do is just go to his site, instead of clicking on the link that would be in the thread here. He didn't stop developing the rom, he just stopped posting the change log here... OH NO WHAT WILL WEZ DOZ NOW?!?!?
He left, it's done and over with, how about people grow up and stop acting like it's the end of the world. If he had just said "I'm only going to post on my site because I choose to do so" everyone would be calling him an ass. But because someone "made him leave " everyone wants to flame someone who expressed an opinion...
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It's that time of the month for u huh?
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teamgreen02 said:
To be fair, it never said on the OP that the ROM would fully wipe, only that it was recommended, that's a big difference. Chingy and the people involved are all immature.
I was trying to decide which ROM to run, BAMF 3.0 or Gingeritis 3D, but Chingy decided for me.
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Read it carefully. Your another one who did not read it. He stated it on a change log one of the version.
fgarcia25 said:
Read it carefully. Your another one who did not read it. He stated it on a change log one of the version.
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Regardless, that was what the arguement consisted of. Not many people in that thread showed much class.
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Chingy made an awesome rom. To bad some a-hole had to piss him off. He's had some bomb ass roms and radio leaks. He will be missed on the XDA for sure.
C-Deff said:
Chingy made an awesome rom. To bad some a-hole had to piss him off. He's had some bomb ass roms and radio leaks. He will be missed on the XDA for sure.
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so its ok for a dev to be an a-hole because he makes cool roms???
Not saying that was the situation here, but its happened before.
No doubt, I've only read that a user flashed a rom and got upset because he didn't fully relize/understand the ramifications of the new flash. Chingy didn't seem like an a-hole or diva to me but i didn't investigate his background too much. I just think it sucks to loose a good Dev regardless.

Market 3.2.0

tired of being a leacher decided to finally sign up and start sharing, well today i was lurking and i found a whole dump of ICS apps (forgot were sorry) but dont worrie almost every app isnt able to work yet (they were just released last night) people are working on them.
but one app that did work was "Phonesky.apk" which is the market i just renamed it Vending.apk set the permissions with root explorer restart and it works perfect, i havent rly tested much with it, looks the same cant relly say if its faster or not. but here it is.
anyone has any useful info on this please post and if its worthy i will add it to this post
RyanFabbro said:
tired of being a leacher decided to finally sign up and start sharing, well today i was lurking and i found a whole dump of ICS apps (forgot were sorry) but dont worrie almost every app isnt able to work yet (they were just released last night) people are working on them.
but one app that did work was "Phonesky.apk" which is the market i just renamed it Vending.apk set the permissions with root explorer restart and it works perfect, i havent rly tested much with it, looks the same cant relly say if its faster or not. but here it is.
anyone has any useful info on this please post and if its worthy i will add it to this post
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The new market 3.2.0 you collected from the Rom dump was leaked few weeks ago.
There are a numbers of posts regarding this. If you haven't seen anything yet, go through the post below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297040
You really got butt-hurt over him posting this, 'ey? Relax dude. Reposts really don't make that big of a difference worth popping a blood vessel over.
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A guy that did a reposting criticized another for reposting his repost lol
CM7 nightly
thanks guys for not flaming me except that first poster lol, i just found this and seen that the ICS package was released last night (were i found it) and i put them all on my phone and this was the only one that was any good that actually worked, i wasnt aware this was already posted and im sry for the repost but, atleast those who didnt catch it have a chance to get it from me. =P
The funny thing is, if he hadn't come in here acting like a tool bag, this thread probably would have died already and been buried. His attack on you posting the apk makes me wonder if his version is modified... Yours comes up a different size, which obviously means one of you changed something about the app before posting it. I saw someone mention in his thread that his is "different" than other market apps in some way (can't remember exactly). So his attack on you has me wondering if maybe he had tampered with it and sees yours as a threat since any one looking at both will notice there's a size difference between the two.
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Yeah, dude needs to relax. Your intention was to help. No need for all the caps. And if he's so concerned about the XDA rules, surely he knows that it's also a violation to present oneself as a mod, i.e. telling people what they can and cannot post Whenever people complain about XDA it's people like that that's always the top complaint.
I didn't intended to hurt anyone
First of all let me make it clear that, i didn't intended to hurt anyone nor try to pretend as a moderator.
I just gave an advice to the OP to search the forum before posting something.
I didn't imagine you guys put flame on me. What did i do to you guys for insulting me like this?
If you thought I was pretending as a moderator, I apologize for the same......
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First of all let me make it clear that, i didn't intended to hurt anyone nor try to pretend as a moderator.
I just gave an advice to the OP to search the forum before posting something.
I didn't imagine you guys put flame on me. What did i do to you guys for insulting me like this?
If you thought I was pretending as a moderator, I apologize for the same......
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Honestly, I was the all caps
I appreciate the edits you've made to your original post, it's much better now. It's just that, it's good to remind people to search and show them where the matter has already been covered but we should try and be respectful and helpful about it. Your original post came across as much too harsh a response, considering that the OP was genuinly trying to be helpful.
Droidificator said:
The funny thing is, if he hadn't come in here acting like a tool bag, this thread probably would have died already and been buried. His attack on you posting the apk makes me wonder if his version is modified... Yours comes up a different size, which obviously means one of you changed something about the app before posting it. I saw someone mention in his thread that his is "different" than other market apps in some way (can't remember exactly). So his attack on you has me wondering if maybe he had tampered with it and sees yours as a threat since any one looking at both will notice there's a size difference between the two.
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lol, yeah mines the default one from the whole ICS dump i found i still have all the ICS apps but they dont work, havent checked to see if there was a fix yet
febycv said:
First of all let me make it clear that, i didn't intended to hurt anyone nor try to pretend as a moderator.
I just gave an advice to the OP to search the forum before posting something.
I didn't imagine you guys put flame on me. What did i do to you guys for insulting me like this?
If you thought I was pretending as a moderator, I apologize for the same......
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I think the problem was two-fold. First, you used all caps for part of your post originally, which implies you're yelling, and you were aware that you used caps since only part if it was capped. Second, your avatar is off putting. It gives the air of authority (to me, anyway), which I think just amplified the use of caps lock in your original post.
Thanks for changing your post, it is much friendlier now.
But do you have an answer to why the two supposedly identical apk's are different sizes?
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
The market in my link & that of OP are both 2.5mb. So where did you noticed the size difference????
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febycv said:
The market in my link & that of OP are both 2.5mb. So where did you noticed the size difference????
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Yours is 2,46 MB big, his is 2,49 MB - a difference of 30 KB.
I have also noticed the size difference and, obviously, the content difference.

Any SBF for the ATRIX 2 ?

Hello all,
I need a sbf rom for the atrix2.
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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not a waste of time, just no way of flashing it right now
916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.
As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*
cheetablaze said:
As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*
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i think at the moment, as SBF is more important than a custom rom. we NEED the ability to go back to factory...
Sbf is step 1 toward getting the Atrix 2 development friendly.
I laughed out loud when I saw your post on the official moto forum, cheetablaze, it was a good try though.
We don't typically provide these files to the consumers as they are not customer friendly.
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More like THEY'RE not customer friendly.
I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol
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I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol
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i was impressed that they immediately locked the thread as well.
Pirateghost said:
sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.
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Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.
916x10 said:
Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now. we will work with what we have. now that i have my vivid, i can start focusing on tearing up the atrix 2.
916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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Semseddin said:
What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.
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agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
i will talk to daywalker04 and see if he can assist.
Pirateghost said:
agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
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I agree totally!!!
the x10 forums were horrible.
Pirateghost said:
re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now.
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LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...
Pirateghost said:
take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...
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There was NOTHING negative about me saying apparrently the devs feel its a waste of time to dev a stock based rom. How you can conclude that I feel like a dev owes me a rom or that im being negative towards them is beyond me.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.
koriflame said:
Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.
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Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me. If I said "koriflame doesnt like milk", does that sound like I meant that you should like milk?
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916x10 said:
Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me.
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i hope you do get a dev that will put up with your attitude, because i sure as hell wont.
good luck fellas!

Cyanogen Mod Kernel Port Project

As of right now, I am modifying and reviewing the code in the KVM folders in both sources. I just need to know as to who is doing what. It would be a LOT easier for anyone who is trying to port the CM GB Kernel to our phone. So far it is taking me all night long just to do ONE file. If I can get help with this. It will mean that we will get CM7 running on our phone soon.
i pm'ed you the link to krylon's source. Have a look at that.
Could we not port it from the Vibrant as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099454
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As of right now, I am modifying and reviewing the code in the KVM folders in both sources.
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KVM folders?
pwner5889 said:
I just need to know as to who is doing what.
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AFAIK, Krylon360 isn't working on cm7 for sgs4g anymore.
I have the kernel almost working and should have something very soon.
RaverX3X has worked on the rom, and we are still testing and debugging a bootloop issue.
pwner5889 said:
It would be a LOT easier for anyone who is trying to port the CM GB Kernel to our phone. So far it is taking me all night long just to do ONE file. If I can get help with this. It will mean that we will get CM7 running on our phone soon.
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I know you guys are really-super excited for cm7. The most you can do to help is wait and be patient! Trust me... soon.
bhundven said:
KVM folders?
AFAIK, Krylon360 isn't working on cm7 for sgs4g anymore.
I have the kernel almost working and should have something very soon.
RaverX3X has worked on the rom, and we are still testing and debugging a bootloop issue.
I know you guys are really-super excited for cm7. The most you can do to help is wait and be patient! Trust me... soon.
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You have got me past excited now lol im waiting patientlly as possible best of luck to ya... End transmission lol
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bhundven said:
KVM folders?
AFAIK, Krylon360 isn't working on cm7 for sgs4g anymore.
I have the kernel almost working and should have something very soon.
RaverX3X has worked on the rom, and we are still testing and debugging a bootloop issue.
I know you guys are really-super excited for cm7. The most you can do to help is wait and be patient! Trust me... soon.
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I knew someone was already working on it. I just wanted to help out a little. Yes, the KVM folders inside the vir. (I think?)
pwner5889 said:
I knew someone was already working on it. I just wanted to help out a little. Yes, the KVM folders inside the vir. (I think?)
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Sorry dude, I still have no clue what you are talking about.
Maybe provide full paths to what you're talking about?
If you searched around, or read under "Plans" in the OP of my kernel thread (serious everyone... it's been there for quite some time!) or search through Q&A or General, you will find me talking about the progress of where I'm at whenever someone brings up another cm7 or kernel thread.
I will also plan on updating the OP in that thread or at least point to a new thread... when something happens.
Something is being worked on, but unless you are experienced with android/kernel system development, sit back and relax. There are a few gb roms to play with, fb's debloat tool, if you hate wifi/4g reception or want bln/voodoo sound, go check out froyo roms (don't forget about bootloaders ).
Relax, if you want something good, you have to wait.
Replied to the wrong thread.
Nice i cant wait for cm7 port. Loved it with my g2 and cm6 with my old g1
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Bh is already really close.
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airfluip1 said:
Bh is already really close.
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please stop.
I know you are excited. You get me on chat and say hi, then log out. You ask me all the time for status... while I'm at work, doing work stuff. I can't touch this stuff while I'm at work, cause I don't get paid to do this, I get paid to do my work.
And no. I'm not "really close". There is plenty of stuff for me to figure out, and the ammount of time i'd spend telling you what is going on, I could be working on it.
I spend LESS THEN 20% of my time on this stuff, and nothing has changed from last night. There is nothing 'newer' then that.
Status: I'm not done. Nothing is ready yet. Check the forum for updates. I have no ETAs. Relax, go watch tv, hiking, learn to surf... do something. Gimme time. (btw, this is why I don't like adding people to my gtalk.)
Geez, sorry. Didn't have to flame me.
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OK, If we want CM7. can someone at least tell me where to start. If I look at Bhundven's source, what do I do. I have the resource to do so.
Dude just leave it be, no offence but its people like you that discourage people from deving. Best of luck bh
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OK, If we want CM7. can someone at least tell me where to start. If I look at Bhundven's source, what do I do. I have the resource to do so.
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Go to google and learn how to edit and compile the Linux kernel. I don't know anything about editing kernels either and that's where I'd start. Before you ask why you need to learn about Linux you should know that Android is based on Linux.
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Dude just leave it be, no offence but your the type of person who discourages people from deving best of luck to bh
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Its comments like that ... that discourage people from helping. Whether you have a problem with air or not you should still keep your comments to yourself. I have not ever even seen you attempt to help someone with anything yet you believe you have the right to bash others for trying.
P.S. When you just say "no offense" and then say something offensive, it does not make it ok.
no offense...
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Its comments like that ... that discourage people from helping. Whether you have a problem with air or not you should still keep your comments to yourself. I have not ever even seen you attempt to help someone with anything yet you believe you have the right to bash others for trying.
P.S. When you just say "no offense" and then say something offensive, it does not make it ok.
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Jiggly... if I may,
While I agree on the double standard on 'no offense', the point being made is that there is a link at the bottom of my signature that says 'github'.
If you venture there, you find repositories. The ones with the readme files are the 'useful' files.
If you want me to spoon feed the young, I will need more arms.
I wish this community would embrace the saying 'RTM'. It's all there. Black and White (depending on your system settings ). There is more then one forum on xda, and other phone forums based on the galaxy s phone also provide tips on building cyanogen. And the commands are only slightly different.
At this point with my source, a build if it builds would not work at all. I'm experimenting around with a few local repo's that are not on github. And when that stuff works, I totally plan on putting up a [REF] thread here in general on building sgs4g cm7 from source.
I don't plan on doing this any sooner then it working, because you don't need to be bricking your phone... right!?!
If you are an android developer and know how to build cm7, you would have found the manifest and never looked back. forked repositories, sent me pull requests to merge your code into my tree... so we can work together.
On one hand, I don't want to baby sit 'wanna be' developers that have no clue what they are getting into, because I don't want to play Q&A with them. It eats up all my time on making this stuff work in the first place.
On the other hand, there are real developers out there who know what to do, but might need some help. I do not want to push these people away, because they will just go and all I have to do is merge.
I cannot agree with you more BH. I appreciate all the work that you do for our phones community and my post was not a comment towards you at all.
I cannot even imagine trying to develop and help people with their questions as much as possible along the way. I know that every minute you are answering questions that is one less minute you are using your "CM7 time" to develop.
My post was simply stating that if you do absolutely NOTHING for the community (lowsnamebrand)... don't bash others for trying. I know people that were asking noob questions 6 to 8 months ago that are developing roms for other devices.
I do apologize if I offended you as that was not my intention whatsoever. I just hate seeing people shoot others down and bash others for trying. Whether you love airfluip or hate him, you cannot deny that he does try to help as much as possible. He asks what he can do to help (which may annoy people but i feel he really wants to help), answers peoples questions, developed AOSP rom and deals with a lot of the same "hand holding" helping people to flash roms.
Again, I am sorry if I offended you but my comment was not in reference to you or your work at all. Thanks for all that you do BH.
and airfluip1
jigglynuts said:
I cannot agree with you more BH. I appreciate all the work that you do for our phones community and my post was not a comment towards you at all.
I cannot even imagine trying to develop and help people with their questions as much as possible along the way. I know that every minute you are answering questions that is one less minute you are using your "CM7 time" to develop.
My post was simply stating that if you do absolutely NOTHING for the community (lowsnamebrand)... don't bash others for trying. I know people that were asking noob questions 6 to 8 months ago that are developing roms for other devices.
I do apologize if I offended you as that was not my intention whatsoever. I just hate seeing people shoot others down and bash others for trying. Whether you love airfluip or hate him, you cannot deny that he does try to help as much as possible. He asks what he can do to help (which may annoy people but i feel he really wants to help), answers peoples questions, developed AOSP rom and deals with a lot of the same "hand holding" helping people to flash roms.
Again, I am sorry if I offended you but my comment was not in reference to you or your work at all. Thanks for all that you do BH.
and airfluip1
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Haha, nah man. Airfluip1 is young and full of "go'get'em". I was like that once. A couple people gave me **** and I started reading everything I could get my hands on because I never wanted to be 'that guy'. He just needs the thwack over the head to go read more. (google, it works!)
Airfluip1 thinks that I am making daily progress on this. I'm not.
The only reason I said anything in the first place is because he keeps pumping up other user's saying "Oh, bh is gonna get cm7 out soon!" which really isn't being honest to other users. If I can get SKILLED help, then we can get cm7 out sooner. But I don't want to teach people stuff that they could find/learn on google. If you can't figure that out, don't ask to help me. It just annoys me.
My response to your post was supposed to have some <snarky> and <sarcasm> tags, I musta failed
I hope you laughed at the "if I may,"
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[Q] I'm a dev, would it be hard to a cornerstone

Hello,
I'm extremely good with computers and done a few years worth of programming. I saw cornerstone and it looked really good. How would one go about integrating it into a asus or other rom build. I took a look at the source and it looks like a matter of adding the files. Is this somewhat correct? Also if i managed to whip up a version could it brick my device (to the point where I can't reflash or nandroid) from flashing it?
Thanks
roflcopterofl said:
I'm extremely good with computers and done a few years worth of programming.
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Hah. If that's really true I don't think you would be asking those questions.
horndroid said:
Hah. If that's really true I don't think you would be asking those questions.
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I never said I was good with android. I've been in the community for under a year and never did much dev on it because of various other projects. The smartest teacher I ever met once told "If you lie about what you know you are only deceiving yourself". I'm not going to lie, I know nothing about android besides rooting and rom flashing. With that said I wouldn't know how it would be incorporated and what is occurring when you flash it (what is modified).
I would watch where you flash you smart ass comments because you can't judge what someone knows based on a internet comment.
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I never said I was good with android. I've been in the community for under a year and never did much dev on it because of various other projects. The smartest teacher I ever met once told "If you lie about what you know you are only deceiving yourself". I'm not going to lie, I know nothing about android besides rooting and rom flashing. With that said I wouldn't know how it would be incorporated and what is occurring when you flash it (what is modified).
I would watch where you flash you smart ass comments because you can't judge what someone knows based on a internet comment.
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Well, considering that you know nothing about Android development, and TBH if you were really interested in Android development and had years of programming experience, it should be very easy, provided you know anything about Java, to begin programming Android. But with a few years of programming experience, you should know a lot of Java, right?
I've been in the community for under a year and never did much dev on it because of various other projects. The smartest teacher I ever met once told "If you lie about what you know you are only deceiving yourself". I'm not going to lie, I know nothing about android besides rooting and rom flashing. With that said I wouldn't know how it would be incorporated and what is occurring when you flash it (what is modified).
Now let's put that aside and possibly stop trolling, and get the main focus of this thread.
luna_c666 said:
Well, considering that you know nothing about Android development, and TBH if you were really interested in Android development and had years of programming experience, it should be very easy, provided you know anything about Java, to begin programming Android. But with a few years of programming experience, you should know a lot of Java, right?
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Java isn't the only programming language that exists. I'm sure you realize that. I can already tell my your abrupt attitude that you have something against me (I'm sure because of the rooting thread). No reason exists why that should occur. It was a simple question where no trolling should reside.
Edit: Maybe I misinterpreted your comment, if so my apologizes. Yes I've been doing java for the last 6 months (on and off but I've came back fully for the last month). The other months were simple learning and reverse engineering(Which the 5 months could be questionably be worthless seeing that after I went back to the code I was reverse engineering everything made 25 times more sense then before)
Android is based on java. It uses a linux kernel. You should familiarize with these. No I wasn't being snide- the rooting thread was weird I admit, but I was actually just giving an earnest answer- you may not be the only one that reads it.
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Hah. If that's really true I don't think you would be asking those questions.
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Listen, smart-ass, you ever heard of specialization? Just because someone is a physicist doesn't mean he knows everything in the field of physics. Just because someone is a programmer doesn't mean he knows everything about programming. If you have an allergic reaction, would you go to a proctologist or an allergist? If the proctologist would admit to his ignorance of someone's allergic reaction, would you question that he's a doctor at all?
I'm an engineer. Would you doubt I'm an engineer if if I told you I know nothing about chemical engineering?
This is why when programmers talk to each other, they don't say "I'm a programmer". Usually, they say "I'm a java programmer" or "I'm a visual basic programmer", etc. I once knew a C++ guy that almost pulled his hair out over the fact that you could only send one value from one method to another in java. Surprise surprise, the languages are designed differently as well.
I give up... not !!!..... but the troll will be no more
I realized right before I posted the last post that nothing will bring you out of your misconceptions.
The OP asked a legitimate question which you are now derailing by grandstanding as if you know anything. You've posted a lot in this thread already and in none of those posts have you been of any help. At the very least, you could help by keeping this post back on track by giving a proper response within topic.
I too am extremely good at computers and have been doing programming since 1982. But for the life of me I also wouldn't know how to integrate Cornerstone into ICS. Now since the poster asked the question relating to that, and you've so far posted more than anybody here in this thread, we are waiting for your answer to the OP's question...if you have any.
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I was doubting his claim that he was extremely good at computer. "Extremely" is the keyword.
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The only misconception here is you think I was doubting the OP's specialization, which I clearly wasn't.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
If you read those two quotes from what you posted, you will see how stupid you look right now.
Horndroid, I think you are talking a lot but you don't really know the IT world...
I'm an IT professionnal, I'm developing in Java for about 4 years now and I don't know anything about Android development...
Do you really think a dev knows every programming language and every platform ?
I don't want to be rude but your answers are realy just spam to me and I really think you don't know what you are talking about !
The OP was just asking a question if you don't have any useful answer to give, avoid spamming his thread !
Horndroid .....not knowing
It seems that right now you're the one specializing in it.
WHY DONT YOU BOTH SHUT UP AND LET PEOPLE ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION
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roflcopterofl, maybe you should ask the mod to delete this thread and try again. Good luck with finding what you need. Hope this event doesn't persuade you to give up. I hear there are a lot of people interested in working with cornerstone, so someone is bound to have the information you are looking for.
From what I've read from the developer who was working on officially integrating Cornerstone in to CM9 (and then abandoned), the Cornerstone code is a mess and kind of hard to work with. If you're not experienced with Android development specifically, it's going to be tough (although not impossible - just very difficult).
typci said:
roflcopterofl, maybe you should ask the mod to delete this thread and try again. Good luck with finding what you need. Hope this event doesn't persuade you to give up. I hear there are a lot of people interested in working with cornerstone, so someone is bound to have the information you are looking for.
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+1 on this.
I am interested in working on this to. Not chemically, mechanically or even EXTREMELY. Just interested. Please don't tell my allergist or proctologist though
We can get the source code from the Onskreen site or is it on github too?
Woodrube said:
+1 on this.
I am interested in working on this to. Not chemically, mechanically or even EXTREMELY. Just interested. Please don't tell my allergist or proctologist though
We can get the source code from the Onskreen site or is it on github too?
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https://github.com/onskreen/cornerstone
Haha ok thanks. Nothing wrong with a little argument of it leads to progress. I've been doing java for half a year but recently I've really picked it up. The other programming languages were lua (for a day lol), basic, visual basic, Html (markup but still). I do not know every language nor do I claim to. GoodIntentions won that argument by a long shot. My statement wasn't mean to be relative to other's knowledge. It was simply saying that I've done things like this in the past and have no fear. Could a mod lock this before it gets flamed.
Thanks

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