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I'm thinking of getting this for it's keyboard, yes I'm a keyboard man.
I already got the gs2 but playing rpg games with the virtual keypad pad is just a pain. and oh no I have decided a long time ago that I'm not buying another sony phone, so no xperia play suggestion please. Thanks everyone.
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Pretty average, it can play Angry Birds smoothly but anything 3D isn't that brilliant. It's a bit below the Desire I'd say.
Hmm I thought so. Thanks
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Indeed, don't buy it if you want great performances.
It can't be slower than Desire. It has newer cpu and gpu (Adreno 205 vs Adreno 200 on Desire). And the lower resolution helps the performance too.
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albireox said:
It can't be slower than Desire. It has newer cpu and gpu (Adreno 205 vs Adreno 200 on Desire). And the lower resolution helps the performance too.
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I was under the impression it's an 800mhz MSM7227 with Adreno 200?
Yes it's 800MHz the Desire is 1GHz
Cadabena said:
I was under the impression it's an 800mhz MSM7227 with Adreno 200?
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Andreno 205 is in the ChaCha.
thought it was 200? is it really running on a 205? any source?
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gonemad02 said:
thought it was 200? is it really running on a 205? any source?
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Hmm, could be just a rumor I think. Can't find anything official.
Chacha uses Qualcomm MSM7227T. And this has Adreno 200.
pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2784&c=htc_chacha_a810e__chachacha
pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7227t&c=qualcomm_msm7227t
Sorry i can't post outside links yet due to low post count.
Would it be possible to build WebOS for our devices since it's gone open source?
hiko36 said:
Would it be possible to build WebOS for our devices since it's gone open source?
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That would actually be pretty cool, although I don't think it would be possible due to the fact that WebOS isn't designed to run on the Tegra 2 Platform. Then again, I might be wrong.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
That would actually be pretty cool, although I don't think it would be possible due to the fact that WebOS isn't designed to run on the Tegra 2 Platform. Then again, I might be wrong.
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Exactly... the fact that it is open source does not mean squat... you have to have drivers to link the hardware to the software... and even if nvidia releases all the source code for the tegra2 drivers this will not matter as it is coded for android...
fundamentally it is possible to do, the only problem is one would have to code the drivers and everything related to them from the ground up with having very little clue where to start... a next to impossible feat...
Isn't the HP touchpad a tegra2 device?
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tuningnoob said:
Isn't the HP touchpad a tegra2 device?
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Indeed
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tuningnoob said:
Isn't the HP touchpad a tegra2 device?
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No, I think it's running a dual core snapdragon. Same that's found in the HTC Flyer.
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Isn't the HP touchpad a tegra2 device?
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Indeed
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Nope, it uses a Snapdragon processor.
APQ8060 45 nm ARMv7 1.2-1.5 GHz Dual-core Scorpion L2: 512 kB Adreno 220 Single-channel 333 MHz ISM/266 MHz LPDDR2 Connectivity features not included 2011 HP TouchPad, T-Mobile Galaxy S II, Galaxy S II Skyrocket, HTC Vivid, NTT DoCoMo, Galaxy S II LTE, LG Nitro HD
http://www.neowin.net/news/huawei-ascend-d-quad-to-be-worlds-fastest-smartphone
Itll be running STOCK android...no more of this waiting for Samsung BS! Might become quite a popular phone just cause of that.
Huawei is notorious for being junk so I doubt many xda type people will buy that.
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xsteven77x said:
Huawei is notorious for being junk so I doubt many xda type people will buy that.
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I don't know how correeyour response is... my cuz had one of their low end phones and it wasbeto bad..
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PJcastaldo said:
I don't know how correeyour response is... my cuz had one of their low end phones and it wasbeto bad..
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...what the hell did you just say?? lol.
Android would be a lot more popular if they ran straight Android...such slick, beautiful, and powerful phones losing to the the fat, small screened simplistic and underpowered iPhone because of the goofy and crappy software loaded on them.
Carriers & manufacturers, the blood of Android is on your hands...
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...what the hell did you just say?? lol.
Android would be a lot more popular if they ran straight Android...such slick, beautiful, and powerful phones losing to the the fat, small screened simplistic and underpowered iPhone because of the goofy and crappy software loaded on them.
Carriers & manufacturers, the blood of Android is on your hands...
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Android outsells iPhone almost 2 to 1 so how is it losing?
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Huawei is notorious for being junk so I doubt many xda type people will buy that.
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Well that's not entirely true. Huawei has mainly produced low end handsets here in the states. From everything I've seen and read, their handsets are emanating a quality on par with Samsung which says a lot. I think they're gonna do very well.
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I have had experience with the Ascend phone which is a low end prepaid phone and I got to say at the time it released I think aside from a problem with the usb port (which evo 4gs at the time had) the build quality was decent and non-xda devs had it cooking with cm7
vanilla android was nice and with the decent dev support it had that low end phone was keeping up with more powerful phones.
that sounds amazing, but i doubt most people here would upgrade until they put a processor as fast as a i7 in teh phones
AznDud333 said:
that sounds amazing, but i doubt most people here would upgrade until they put a processor as fast as a i7 in teh phones
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X86 is a dying architecture, arm is the future
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leo321 said:
X86 is a dying architecture, arm is the future
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power consumption wise, maybe.. but dont forget that arm lags wayy behind on performance per clock
even their high end phones are crap
horrible battery life, i've played with them
and most importantly of all, no SAMOLED+ display
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X86 is a dying architecture, arm is the future
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I meant for mobile devices... there will never be an efficient x86 processor in a phone.
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Looks ok for what it is, i'd buy one to play with?.
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even their high end phones are crap
horrible battery life, i've played with them
and most importantly of all, no SAMOLED+ display
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I have never heard of them really till recently, when they were at CES i believe with the thinnest smartphone. Then this news post.
The SAMOLED+ thing is a good point though, i look at other screens and theyre SO bland.
leo321 said:
X86 is a dying architecture, arm is the future
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leo321 said:
I meant for mobile devices... there will never be an efficient x86 processor in a phone.
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Except this isn't necessarily true at all :|
xsteven77x said:
Huawei is notorious for being junk so I doubt many xda type people will buy that.
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could'nt agree more
leo321 said:
I meant for mobile devices... there will never be an efficient x86 processor in a phone.
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Ever heard of Intel's medfield?
red12355 said:
Ever heard of Intel's medfield?
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Maybe someday there will be a power efficient x86 processor in a phone but the medfield isnt it. Its a 32nm processor, but to match a 45nm ARM processor's power efficiency, it would have 28nm.
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Maybe someday there will be a power efficient x86 processor in a phone but the medfield isnt it. Its a 32nm processor, but to match a 45nm ARM processor's power efficiency, it would have 28nm.
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... But it already matches 45nm ARM in power efficiency.
And where did you get that is has to be 28nm to match 45nm ARM? That's nonsense.
red12355 said:
... But it already matches 45nm ARM in power efficiency.
And where did you get that is has to be 28nm to match 45nm ARM? That's nonsense.
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My apologies, guess I've read wrong! Anyways it seems like a great chip, but it still needs to catch up to arm power efficiency... and arm has plans for a 20nm process later this year and 14nm the next year... It will be very interesting to see how Intel plays its hand in the mobile phone realm!
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Hi i was having a big argue with a friend so Im asking this here
I'll take HTC wildfire as example at the whole post!
So I was saying that wildfire doesn't have a gpu. My friend said "not true....every phone has a gpu otherwise the screen would have no signal cause the graphic part can not be calculated"
so I said "in the wildfire the cpu calculates the graphic part "
He said "no....the cpu need a gpu to do it "
So I said " ok so he doesn't have a dedicated gpu " and he said that its impossible for a phone to have a dedicated gpu cause the case its not big enough to keep it in ....
So the point is
- for me wildfire doesn't have any gpu and the calculation of the graphic part belongs only to the cpu -according to my friend every phone has a gpu like the one in the nexus s or in any other top range phone ..
Thanks in advance for answers!!
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CPU, GPU, APU, the lines have been blurred. It really doesn't matter.
You have soc "cpu" which contains a lot more than just a CPU, a5x is more a gpu than CPU, and APU designs that do both tasks well. CPU/GPU traditional systems are quickly becoming a thing of the past.
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Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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thyeme said:
Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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Right, it doesn't have a dedicated GPU in it's SoC. Graphics processing is pushed to the CPU, which is why it kinda sucks for playing movies.
So it doesn't have a dedicated gpu or it doesn't have a gpu at all?!
Cause he said that a dedicates gpu its too big for a phone....
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thyeme said:
Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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It does. Your friend is right, if there is no GPU then there would be no signal to your screen.
thyeme said:
So it doesn't have a dedicated gpu or it doesn't have a gpu at all?!
Cause he said that a dedicates gpu its too big for a phone....
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A lot of high-end phones have had dedicated GPUs for a long time now, the Krait S4 uses the Adreno 225 GPU.
Just like in bargain pc's, if the SoC doesn't have a dedicated GPU then it has an integrated GPU. You need graphics processing to have a screen, so its happening somewhere. You just get very bad results without a dedicated GPU.
The Wildfire runs MSM7225 at 600MHz I think, which has a cut-down Adreno 200.
All phones possess a GPU of sorts, although it is usually part of the SoC in modern smartphones. Even feature phones have a 'GPU', although it's usually just a basic Boradcom display controller with no 3D or video acceleration support
So I'm now thinking about the tegra 3 .... it does have an integrated gpu right?!
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So I'm now thinking about the tegra 3 .... it does have an integrated gpu right?!
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Yep. A pretty good one.
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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thyeme said:
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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We're entering the realm of SoCs now. Tegra is both a CPU and a GPU at the same time.
thyeme said:
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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I'll generalise for you:
In all modern smartphones, no matter what SoC is used, a 'piece' of the package is the GPU. Technically, they are integrated. This is common across all manufacturers, as separate chips for everything wastes power and PCB space.
To answer your question, in terms of contruction there are no differences. Adreno 200 is a small 'piece' of the MSM7225 chip, while whatever Tegra 3's GPU is called is a small 'piece' of the Tegra 3 chip
Hello everyone
Keeping in mind the excellent dev support for NS , i wanted to ask if someone has managed to enable 720p video recording on it ? if it is possible ...
thanks for any info in advance
Not possible.
i too was curious about this a while ago... got a similar "plain" answer with no explanation... which obviously didn't satisfy the original urge to discover the answer... the more drawn out answer is:
the Nexus S doesn't have the hardware to allow for HD recording... we can thank the NFC chip that was added in place of where the extra bit for HD recording hardware would've gone...
btw, search is your friend... ibtl
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we can thank the NFC chip that was added in place of where the extra bit for HD recording hardware would've gone...
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Please keep in mind that Nexus S is primarily a developer phone. For a developer it is better to have every bit of hardware the Android SDK supports than having extra functions which are useless for a developer.
debaj said:
Please keep in mind that Nexus S is primarily a developer phone. For a developer it is better to have every bit of hardware the Android SDK supports than having extra functions which are useless for a developer.
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good point... because i bought it b/c it was a phone... maybe this is why google hasn't gained as much ground as they could've?? NFC is only NOW useful since Google Wallets latest update allowing for adding other cards like Visa, etc... before that, NFC was totally useless for me and pretty much everyone else!
but you're point does make a lot of sense from that perspective!!
Oh ok ... Thanks for the info
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Not possible.
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The htc one v has got this function. The htc one v has got a 1GH processor and the benchmarks points are only 2100. The nexus s has got 2900 without overclocking.
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Spidergio said:
The htc one v has got this function. The htc one v has got a 1GH processor and the benchmarks points are only 2100. The nexus s has got 2900 without overclocking.
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And the one v is a year and a half younger with a different processor. Comparing apples with oranges
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good point... because i bought it b/c it was a phone... maybe this is why google hasn't gained as much ground as they could've?? NFC is only NOW useful since Google Wallets latest update allowing for adding other cards like Visa, etc... before that, NFC was totally useless for me and pretty much everyone else!
but you're point does make a lot of sense from that perspective!!
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Still useless for me! I cant get google wallet to work in Canada..
Spidergio said:
The htc one v has got this function. The htc one v has got a 1GH processor and the benchmarks points are only 2100. The nexus s has got 2900 without overclocking.
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And what does any of that have to do with taking 720p video? Absolutely nothing.
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And what does any of that have to do with taking 720p video? Absolutely nothing.
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The nexus s supports it because a less powerful device supports it.
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Spidergio said:
The nexus s supports it because a less powerful device supports it.
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That doesn't make sense though. :S
That just might the dumbest post of the year
Albundy2010 is right. This whole thread was a waste of my life... useless.
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