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$529 with only att or tmobile support :(

Hi,
i am just asking this out of curiosity.
google is selling the nexus one for $529 for either att or tmobile.
wouldnt it be nice to have 3G bands of att (850) and tmobile (1700 or 2100 not sure) both built in if i am paying $529. i mean than i could choose between the two carriers with the same phone, otherwise i am still restricted
any comments.....

geronemo said:
wouldnt it be nice to have 3G bands of att (850) and tmobile (1700 or 2100 not sure) both built in if i am paying $529. i mean than i could choose between the two carriers with the same phone, otherwise i am still restricted
any comments.....
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While this would be nice, why add more features? This is the normal cost (This may even be on the lower ends?) of a phone before your carrier subsidizes it...

JAguirre1231 said:
While this would be nice, why add more features? This is the normal cost (This may even be on the lower ends?) of a phone before your carrier subsidizes it...
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but thats my point that at $529 its not subsidized for att.
thats what annoys me.
i would love to get it for att 3G at $179 as it is for tmobile.
so as things stand i have to pay $529 for att 3G, sucks.........

geronemo said:
but thats my point that at $529 its not subsidized for att.
thats what annoys me.
i would love to get it for att 3G at $179 as it is for tmobile.
so as things stand i have to pay $529 for att 3G, sucks.........
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It is kind of odd that att hasnt picked up the phone yet isnt it? They are probably trying to push off as many backflips as possible before they subsidize it.

I agreed with you. To sell it unlocked for such a high price tag, make it so that we can utilize all of the services that a carrier has to offer. In this case, I meant put all of the 3g frequencies together like the 2g frequency. If they don't want to put all of the frequencies in one unit, at least put the 3g (850/1700/1900) if the phones were aimed for the US and 3g(900/2100) for Asia. Paying $529 and we can only choose either for ATT or for TMO. We can't use the 3g if we change a carrier. Not happy with the way they market the phone.

lingnoy said:
I agreed with you. To sell it unlocked for such a high price tag, make it so that we can utilize all of the services that a carrier has to offer. In this case, I meant put all of the 3g frequencies together like the 2g frequency. If they don't want to put all of the frequencies in one unit, at least put the 3g (850/1700/1900) if the phones were aimed for the US and 3g(900/2100) for Asia. Paying $529 and we can only choose either for ATT or for TMO. We can't use the 3g if we change a carrier. Not happy with the way they market the phone.
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thats exactly my point,
1st off we cannot see the phone up close before buying it, sucks, horrible marketing.
2nd pay whooping $529 for only att 3G sucks, horrible marketing.
maybe google doesnt want this phone to be really successful

Justin241982 said:
It is kind of odd that att hasnt picked up the phone yet isnt it? They are probably trying to push off as many backflips as possible before they subsidize it.
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i read somewhere there att as long as they are in exclusive contract with apple over iphone wont release a phone which is better/equal to iphone, i dont think this is true, but interestingly:
i respect apple, android, winMo but the only 2-3 phones in the market that can give iphone a run for its money are HD2, nexus one, droid and interestingly att doesn't have anyone of them

It's confirmed. No ATT 3G on the G2X

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/27/t-mobile-g2x-lacks-quadband-hspa-shatters-dreams/

So glad i didnt buy this now. Oh well...

Alas, returning the phone was justified. I know that for the average customer this might not have been a big deal, but I wanted a true high end global HSDPA device. I wanted it to be true so much...
Oh well, still a great phone for those who do not care about the missing bands.
Onwards with the custom roms!

Stinks and some major fubared information on the website. Oh well, awesome phone.

So much for that....back to my vibrant for now.....

I thought that this phone passed the fcc with the tmobile and att bands. Dont really care, cause most likely I will have moved on to another phone by the time the merger happens. So whats going on. Does anyone know the link to the fcc filing.

Yeah, was sad for a second and then I picked up the phone and used it and I didn't care anymore

I haven't cared since I read att won't be switching off aws too soon and they would grandfather in all T-Mobile plans. Also not even sure I'd stay with att if the merger does happen anyway. Depends on too much and this phone is too amazing to return now. Super satisfied with my purchase.
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best news ive heard all week
jrwingate6 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/27/t-mobile-g2x-lacks-quadband-hspa-shatters-dreams/
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i know for those that wanted to use this phone on att it sucks. but for me i signed a 2 year contract based on this phone. if and when the att merger goes through. they will have to offer you out of your contract or supply you with a new phone. and since id cut off my right foot before id use att ever again, i think this is great news. I think it will be 18-24 months before you see any changes even if it goes through anyways, so i think the only problem here is if you wanted to use this phone on att. which i think was not wanted by tmobile, they want you to come to tmobile thats why they offer this phone.--only prob was advertising it did have those bands. but it did get straightened out in the return time. If anyone paid an early term fee and paid full price for this phone to work on att-tmobile better make it financially right or they will have some problems, im betting they will.

You know I still have a hard time believing this. I can't see how it passed the FCC with such false advertising and because the were spitting it out so much. I just have a sneaky suspicion that we'll see a radio that has the AT&T bands. That quote was probably just from some Customer Service rep reading off a script.
Why would TMOBILE say, "Yea it supports other carriers"? It would be in there best interest to say you have to use it on our network.
I think the phone is a Quad Band and could support it if the radio was opened up. The only time I'll believe it is when I hear it from some of the devs here on XDA.
But really what does it matter? Most phones don't support both bands. I hear people saying, I'm just going to buy the Sensation... well that isn't going to be quad band either (unless I'm missing something).
What is the point of the FCC if they don't check these things? The FCC is supposed to make sure that the product being offered works as intended and advertised. I mean there are just too many things pointing out that the device IS CAPABLE of the receiving the different frequencies.
Tmobile probably just blocked the frequencies in the radio and are saying this just to shut people up.
(sorry I posted this over the course of 5 phone calls so it may not be in logical order)

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player911 said:
You know I still have a hard time believing this. I can't see how it passed the FCC with such false advertising and because the were spitting it out so much. I just have a sneaky suspicion that we'll see a radio that has the AT&T bands. That quote was probably just from some Customer Service rep reading off a script.
Why would TMOBILE say, "Yea it supports other carriers"? It would be in there best interest to say you have to use it on our network.
I think the phone is a Quad Band and could support it if the radio was opened up. The only time I'll believe it is when I hear it from some of the devs here on XDA.
But really what does it matter? Most phones don't support both bands. I hear people saying, I'm just going to buy the Sensation... well that isn't going to be quad band either (unless I'm missing something).
What is the point of the FCC if they don't check these things? The FCC is supposed to make sure that the product being offered works as intended and advertised. I mean there are just too many things pointing out that the device IS CAPABLE of the receiving the different frequencies.
Tmobile probably just blocked the frequencies in the radio and are saying this just to shut people up.
(sorry I posted this over the course of 5 phone calls so it may not be in logical order)
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fcc's job.
thanks for the million
pass.

so disappointed. guess i'll hold on to my phone a little while longer

niftydl said:
I wanted a true high end global HSDPA device.
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Wait, how is it not a "true high end global HSPA device" ? It's quad-band 850/900/1800/1900 for 2G/GPRS and UMTS/HSPA+ bands I (2100) and IV (1700).
So it will work pretty much everywhere in the world (just no HSPA+ on AT&T network).
So what phone will you get that is a "true high end global HSPA device" ?

It is not confirmed....ha, lg made this phone, until they release a statement that they never put the bands in the phone, or never plan to enable then in future baseband updates, nothing is official yet.
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This is really something.
A poster elsewhere on XDA had gotten a written statement from TMo that it had those bands (followed by legal gobbledygook terms & conditions stating that they reserved the right to make or not make them available.
Now. their statement saying "opps" they goofed. I will give this another day or two to get sorted out (traveling all day tomorrow). I will then decide whether to return it and wait for their next two-core phone (which is supposed to come with 2.4 on it - if you can believe TMo anymore).
I am on a rooted CM7 OC MT4G - not a bad place to wait for a later release. If I miss their 20 day return window - will raise hell - as I had relied on their written representations that the G2x had the AT&T data bands.
Footnote - I am still confused as to why they show up in the "hidden menu".

I'm going to use the phone until the Sensation comes out. I have a print out of the spec sheet off of tmobile.com showing it's supposed to be a quad-band phone. I'll call tech support and tell them I'm having trouble connecting to the 1900 band. They'll tell me I can't. I'll forward them the spec sheet showing I bought a quad-band phone based on their representations. Voila... new phone.

Bummer if it ends up being true. Got official word on the diamond some years ago that it had no physical bands and 6 months later a version with those bands came out and a few weeks after that it was enabled on all the phones that supposedly didnt have them but did thanks to the smart people here. At any rate this one is off the list for now. Leaves an aT&T user without anything to look at that isnt locked down or just plain sucks for the moment.

I don't understand why everybody thinks FCC info is false.
I told you so but y'all didn't listen.

any possible group law suite?

BarryH_GEG said:
I'm going to use the phone until the Sensation comes out. I have a print out of the spec sheet off of tmobile.com showing it's supposed to be a quad-band phone. I'll call tech support and tell them I'm having trouble connecting to the 1900 band. They'll tell me I can't. I'll forward them the spec sheet showing I bought a quad-band phone based on their representations. Voila... new phone.
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You might also want to print out and save the statement by TMo on the link attached below also. I am think if I keep this - may do the same. On the border right now on keeping or returning it in the next few days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041402&highlight=ATT&page=11

Glad I canceled T-Mobile - Too ignorant for my business

Although I enjoyed the data speed of T-Mobile, I am glad I am no longer paying a charge to them. This business with their future phones is a sign of how un-serious they take their consumer business. And because of that, they do deserve the lack of business their decisions will cause.
Not producing phones that will fully function of AT&T's 3G/4G service is just pure willy-nilly ignorant and T-Mobile needs to feel the heat of their ignorance. The so-called "super phone" coming to T-Mobile, the HTC Sensation, will be a no-seller because of how T-Mobile chooses to conduct their business.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/27/t-mobile-g2x-lacks-quadband-hspa-shatters-dreams/

Interesting. i wonder what they do when and if the merger goes through, what then ? do they run to platforms and try to merge over 2 years ? That will totally toast them in business and will lower market share........... Yeah..... What is their plan ?

Yea, I'm thinking of switching back to AT&T as well. Will get a phone that works as long as I need it to, and much better network coverage. Data speeds aren't that big a deal to me, as long as it's around 2mbps download 1mbps up I'm more than content...
And I can still get a 4GB data plan with an iPhone if I go back...

Not too concerned here. 2 of my 3 t-mobile devices fully support at&t's 3g and 4g bands. Just my hd2 will need to be replaced, and that's years away. Not worried.
edit: And phones are planned many months if not a year (or more) in advance. The at&t - t-mobile merger most likely wasn't even in the outlook when they made that phone in the first place.

MartyLK said:
Not producing phones that will fully function of AT&T's 3G/4G service is just pure willy-nilly ignorant...
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Well, that's assuming that the merger goes through.
And even if it does, it's not T-Mobile themselves who produce the phones, they can only buy what the manufacturers are selling.
Plus you seem to be confusing ignorance with short-sightedness.

MOD EDIT :Keep cool, no need to be rude.

TheMan42 said:
The only ignorance here is your post.
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Why would you invest extra money into adding a whole new radio into a handset if there is no garuntee that the merger will go through? The next complaint/answer would be "tmo's handsets are sooo needlesly expensive". Probably because someone thought it was a good idea to put unecassary hardware in a phone you probably wont even remember when (if?) the merger goes through.
I get calls like this all the time, if the service doesnt work for you i completely understand- Please find another service because getting the same whiney call day in and day out costs t mobile that much more money keeping an unhappy customer.
Let me be clear id rather handle 10000 calls about our coverage and service then silly reasons like this, you dont need to justify your reason to leave a carrier.. just leave.

TheMan42 said:
MOD EDIT :Keep cool, no need to be rude.
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To be honest, that came off a little strong, but I still feel it was justified. The Original post should be re-read, then see what was more flame-bait. My statement was the truth, it was "ignorant". Ignorance isn't an insult, its simply stating the the post has no merit into what T-Mobile is doing with their products.
T-Mobile still remains a competitor to AT&T, why would they start to have manufacturers incorporate further frequencies in their devices that support the competitors products? I don't see AT&T doing that with their products, nor Verizon or Sprint.

Interesting. And maybe of interest to me. Someone from t mobile has been hard on my heels to switch from sprint to t mobile. She countered every advantage i thought sprint had: pricewise, 4g coverage etc. If I did not switch yet, cause I am a creature of habits and stick to sprint cause: it is what I started with.
mikzfan

TheMan42 said:
To be honest, that came off a little strong, but I still feel it was justified. The Original post should be re-read, then see what was more flame-bait. My statement was the truth, it was "ignorant". Ignorance isn't an insult, its simply stating the the post has no merit into what T-Mobile is doing with their products.
T-Mobile still remains a competitor to AT&T, why would they start to have manufacturers incorporate further frequencies in their devices that support the competitors products? I don't see AT&T doing that with their products, nor Verizon or Sprint.
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Actually Sprint and Verizon both work on the same 2 frequencies. We're allowed to roam on Verizon as much as we want, included in the plan (there's no hard limit, but don't overuse it), and Verizon customers get to roam on Sprint.

AT&T will become the only GSM phone provider in california when this takes place.

Not surprise one bit. T-MobileUS is notorious for false advertising or even intended false advertising on a bunch of their handsets. How can you trust a company who intentionally commercialized the whole "4G" craze by simply stating that actual 4G infrastructure wasn't worth it and HSPA+ was more than just enough? Good thing they got bought out.

KevGer said:
Hey there everyone if you would like to save money off a new contract with T-Mobile, Att, Sprint, or Verizon email me at [email protected]
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Please stop spamming
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att is gay

they got bought out by another whack provider though

T-Mobile is just as crap here in The Netherlands aswell, I'm glad I have Vodafone!

been loving verizon since i switched from t mobile

Will Google buy T-Mobile?

Article seems to make a good case:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Google-Could-Get-a-Chance-to-Buy-TMobile-After-It-Closes-Motorola-Deal-220504/

Umm...yeah...too late on that one, AT&T is in the process right now of buying tmobile. They made an offer and tmobile accepted it. It's going through federal review now and the deal WILL be approved by the feds.

That would be awesome ! I hope it works out !

I already seen a att/t-mobile commercial the other night on the tv. I just wonder if their gonna jack up our bills I switched from the big V for a cheaper bill

Dano79 said:
I already seen a att/t-mobile commercial the other night on the tv. I just wonder if their gonna jack up our bills I switched from the big V for a cheaper bill
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Same here I don't like at&t and it looks like tmobile is converting to at&t in a sneaky way like there gona start charging if you go over your "unlimited" throttled 2gs of data just like at&t is doing. (dont worry we will be in the grandfather plans but watch out wen you do uprgrades & so on..

My advice is get on a 2 year with t-mobile now so they cant jack the price up on you when they merge. We have a long while before this fully happens tho.
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I wish it was Google, but unfortunately it's big wig at&t!

Look at Google to purchase sprint as the attmob merger will devalue sprint. Which Google will scoop up for a value. The sprint google intergration is not without any coincidence just wait till next year you will see. Sprint sits on a lot of spectrum and with LTE and Wimax their footprint will be one of a kind in the US. Yes Google is a global company but sprint would be a stepping stone to bigger things. Sprint cannot survive on its own.
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It's too late I think. It sucks cause it would have been awesome.

I wish this was true, Google, Google Voice, T-Mobile sounds great... too bad its not going to happen. AT&T is already too far through with buying T-Mobile
Unless Google manages to buy AT&T ... which would be even better but never going to happen

i would hope google says they would pay more $! and att backs off.
i hate att

I'm not from the US, so apologies if I get some of this post confused
Am I right in saying that Google Voice (that we don't have in Britain, sadly) and Sprint are in a partnership? Would this mean that Google are *more* likely to team up or buy Sprint fully, than to buy T-Mobile US?
Fan speculation and fan hope here
The way I see it, Google could become what I call a 'digital carrier', making their own devices and carrying them on their own carrier. I see Google Voice as the first step of this. They'd be the first 'carrier' to go the world over and if they get it right, could completely dominate the information, mobile, and computing (with ChromeOS) space.
Think about it: how a carrier works hasn't changed since mobiles were introduced, really. They've always been the same. With Google Voice, Google have the possibility to change that and make themselves a carrier (possibly with Sprint's help) and carry their own devices, made by Motorola. This would enable them to update the devices (all running stock Android, or maybe different interfaces depending on high up the device is) all at the same time, wirelessly, and get fragmentation (which exists, however many times we say it doesn't) down to an absolute minimum. They could also manage the device's hardware easier, using one chip/SoC for one generation of phone, optimizing the OS for that chip. i.e. NVidia Tegra, a TI chip, or a Qualcomm chip.
Thoughts on this...?

According to FCC regulations. If you provide a service (att, tmo, sprint, etc.) you can NOT make devices (tablets, phones, etc.). Thats why the carriers have other larger companies make there devices. So is the Google and Motorola deals goes down and ATT and TMo doesnt, Google can not buy them.

colorcopies said:
According to FCC regulations. If you provide a service (att, tmo, sprint, etc.) you can NOT make devices (tablets, phones, etc.). Thats why the carriers have other larger companies make there devices. So is the Google and Motorola deals goes down and ATT and TMo doesnt, Google can not buy them.
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This is correct.

colorcopies said:
According to FCC regulations. If you provide a service (att, tmo, sprint, etc.) you can NOT make devices (tablets, phones, etc.). Thats why the carriers have other larger companies make there devices. So is the Google and Motorola deals goes down and ATT and TMo doesnt, Google can not buy them.
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You have a link to that regulation? I presume that came into effect some time after Ma Bell used to make and sell telephones.
I trust you, I just like to verify.

samnada said:
I trust you, I just like to verify.
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Reaganesque

Behold_this said:
Umm...yeah...too late on that one, AT&T is in the process right now of buying tmobile. They made an offer and tmobile accepted it. It's going through federal review now and the deal WILL be approved by the feds.
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You can't say for sure. AT&T has been on the hot seat with the FCC before. Look at when they made them split. They are slowly trying to build up the monopoly again. I honestly don't think the deal would go through. There is too much opposition, including state governments. Plus their legal team made a big no no and accidentally submitted some paperwork to the FCC that hurt their argument.

the merge with AT&T is under review by the FCC. we all know this. It must pass the FCC's examination to ensure things like antitrust, monopoly etc don't occur as a result of the merge... basically to say that all things merger specific are legal.
It's looking like it will be and the merge will go through, but there's always a chance that something (i'm still praying for it) will stop the merge. in that case, then google can offer to buy and in that case an FCC approval doesn't seem to be required since google is not a communications company like AT&T. I just got laid off in a merger just like that between two smaller Cell phone companies... I've renewed a 2 year contract to avoid AT&T screwing me if/when they merge...
I've purposely avoided AT&T for all these years only to find myself faced with being their customer after all. it blows. I prefer google.

A&TT is bad imo. They already capping the 150GB on DSL. Who knows what they will do next.

G-Mobile? LOL
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[Q] Dual Wimax/LTE phones for Sprint

Does anyone know of any sprint/sprint compatible phones on the Horizon that will take advantage of any of the Dual Wimax/LTE chips.
I bought a Galaxy Note 2 outright, since my area just LIT up its LTE network, and my epic 4g touch, only worked on Wimax.
I was thinking about selling or giving away, my e4Gt, but may go on a road trip, and there is still way more Wimax, than LTE alive on the Sprint network. I was thinking worse comes to worse I could carry both and have sprint swap activation when I'm in different areas. Sounds like a pain in the butt though.
I still have about 20days to return my Galaxy Note 2, if there is anything down the pipe, that I can switch to that would simplify my data wants.
I would love the ASUS Padfone 2 to come to Sprint @[email protected] Sigh probably not going to happen...
Thanks!!!!

Wow a whole lot of nothing :|
The thing I find amazing is that there is a chip manufacturer, that makes a dual band wimax/lte chip, and I have heard of no proposed devices in the USA :|
http://www.sequans.com/products-solutions/streamrichlte/sqn5120/
Its a shame that Sprint isn't contracting for a phone that handles both, for people who are traveling the great highways and bi ways of America. I just looked at the Sensorly App Maps for Sprint 4G Wimax, and coverage looks great for most of the major population centers, LTE coverage SUCKS, but is great where I work. I don't see them getting that much coverage with LTE within the year, so whats the plan sprint? They discouraging customers from buying new devices? Don't they think a crossover product might actually have been a lucrative investment?
It makes no sense to me, I see them being able to push more phone sales, by offering greater regional coverage, and preparing customers for the switch over since Wimax will be discontinued in 2 years :| *sigh*

I guess this post should be moved to the No1 currrr! section.

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spodemaster said:
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No they will not make a dual Wimax/LTE phone. They plan on cutting off wimax entirely by next year I believe

No they claim they are going to support it until 2015

spodemaster said:
No they claim they are going to support it until 2015
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Either way it's being cut off so no point in making dual wimax/lte phones

brandonarev said:
Either way it's being cut off so no point in making dual wimax/lte phones
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You don't think they could make some extra cash, by pushing a phone that supports both for the next 2 years?? The typical contract length?

spodemaster said:
You don't think they could make some extra cash, by pushing a phone that supports both for the next 2 years?? The typical contract length?
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Not really because the wimax market isn't that big so no sense in making it when only certain markets will buy it.

brandonarev said:
Not really because the wimax market isn't that big so no sense in making it when only certain markets will buy it.
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I don't know when I looked at the Sprint Wimax Coverage Maps nationally, It looks like there are quite a few significant markets lit up with WiMax