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What "rich colors"? Colors are fairly average on MT4G display.

A lot of reviews I have viewed on the MT4G say that even though it has a normal LCD (or SLCD -- depending on who you ask), the colors are fairly "rich". This may just be the affect SAMOLED has had on me (I am coming from a Vibrant) but I hardly find the colors on the MT4G to be "rich" -- especially the whites.
I have attached a screenshot of Google.com from my MT4G; Looking at Google.com on the MT4G, the white is more off-white than it is real white.
Anyone else seeing this? I am not expecting SAMOLED quality (obviously) and the colors are not "poor", but they are nothing special either.
EDIT: I just realized attaching a screenshot proves nothing since the problem is with how the LCD on MT4G shows it rather than the page itself. In other words, the screenshot will look just fine if viewed from a different device. So I have removed the screenshot.

I'd have to agree that it's the SAMOLED affecting your judgment.
No screen, other than another SAMOLED or the fictitious SAMOLED2, can really compete.
The SLCD(or regular LCD, depending on your source, like you said) screen in the MT4G is essentially the standard in smart phones these days. What sets the MT4G apart is the internals, which are far superior to anything on the market, imo. Second-generation 1GHZ Snapdragon processor and 768 RAM is what I'm referring to.
Personally, I found the screen on my second MT4G to be on par with the G2, which I also place above my Nexus One's AMOLED. So basically, again in my opinion, SAMOLED > G2/SLCD = MT4G/SLCD? > Nexus One/AMOLED > Everything else

Second generation processor and 768 MB of RAM is nice, although the GPU is a bit inferior to that of the Vibrant (just had to throw that out there).
That said, could it just be my particular phone? I compared Google.com on my MT4G and my laptop too and there is definitely a difference in the whites.

DarkAgent said:
Second generation processor and 768 MB of RAM is nice, although the GPU is a bit inferior to that of the Vibrant (just had to throw that out there).
That said, could it just be my particular phone? I compared Google.com on my MT4G and my laptop too and there is definitely a difference in the whites.
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Fully admit the Vibrant has a better GPU. There's tons of benchmarks to show it.
My first MT4G had a really seemed to have a washed out screen and I replaced it because of this fact, more or less.
When you had your screenshot attached, I pulled up Google.com and held it to the screen for comparison. But, like you noted when you removed it, it's being compressed through the interwebz then re-displayed on my desktop's screen so of course I saw a difference. That being said, I do think the screen on the MT4G is good. Is it better than other things currently on the market? Eh. Maybe. I think it's pretty standard, to be quite honest. It's the other internals, the build quality of the entire device itself, and the fact that I actually like SenseUI/mySense that won me over to keep the device.

The funny thing is I hate mySense/Sense -- I loved TouchWiz, haha. It really is TouchWiz/SAMOLED that really is holding me back from returning my Vibrant just yet... I am having hell of a time making up my mind.
For me it all comes down to TouchWiz + SAMOLED vs HSPA+ + FFC.
Decisions, decisions.

I whole-heartedly agree with you that the screen is nothing special. While I love my mytouch 4g, I admit that the screen is just average. There's been a lot of debate as whether the screen is slcd or not. I have to say it is a regular lcd after comparing it to the g2; while the mytouch 4g is brighter, the g2 is noticeably more saturated.

DarkAgent said:
A lot of reviews I have viewed on the MT4G say that even though it has a normal LCD (or SLCD -- depending on who you ask), the colors are fairly "rich". This may just be the affect SAMOLED has had on me (I am coming from a Vibrant) but I hardly find the colors on the MT4G to be "rich" -- especially the whites.
I have attached a screenshot of Google.com from my MT4G; Looking at Google.com on the MT4G, the white is more off-white than it is real white.
Anyone else seeing this? I am not expecting SAMOLED quality (obviously) and the colors are not "poor", but they are nothing special either.
EDIT: I just realized attaching a screenshot proves nothing since the problem is with how the LCD on MT4G shows it rather than the page itself. In other words, the screenshot will look just fine if viewed from a different device. So I have removed the screenshot.
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If I have the choice between a fantastic SAMOLED screen on a crappy samsung phone like the vibrant and a great device with a nice bright LCD like on the MT4G. I go for the MT4G. I absolutely don't care about SAMOLED. The screen is not a self purpose and people who are buying a phone solely because of a screen are crazy. I had the N1 and the AMOLED screen was too dark and never looked really sharp. I don't watch avatar on a phone (rediculous) and I don't play games (I am over 30;-) so if I have a bright and sharp screen I am satisfied.

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I'd have to agree that it's the SAMOLED affecting your judgment.
Personally, I found the screen on my second MT4G to be on par with the G2, which I also place above my Nexus One's AMOLED. So basically, again in my opinion, SAMOLED > G2/SLCD = MT4G/SLCD? > Nexus One/AMOLED > Everything else
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To me it was the opposit. Holding the Nexus One next to the MT4G I thought the nexus had better color...the 4G looked washed out. I like watching videos when traveling and my first instinct was to send the 4G back and stay with the Nexus...especially since I had the Desire Sense on it. But, the MT4G has larger internal memory, 4G, etc... I kept the 4G and my son gets the Nexus.

I may be in the minority, but I hated the SAMOLED on the Vibrant. The white balance on that device was just awful. Whites were light blue/green. Having much warmer whites that are much closer to the standard is much nicer on the mt4g. Additionally, text was so fuzzy compared to the sharp, much more readable text on the mt4g. Lastly, the colors, while certainly vivid and rich are so far from realistic, it just looked silly. No way would a good calibration specialist worth his weight in salt would arrive at those curves. It's sort of like looking at a TV on the floor of a big box retailer like Best Buy. Apparently, those settings move their TVs, and based on feedback here, people love that HDR-like cartoonish appearance. Their saturation and contrast levels are maxed out, and simply don't provide a realistic picture. The only real advantage of the Vibrant was its ability to show inky dark blacks. That was fantastic.

Agreed. I've been trying to figure out what I hated so much about the Vibrant screen, and you just nailed it for me. Personally, I think my MT4G screen is excellent. There is a point where it's simply "more than good enough", and who cares after that?
I can honestly say that, after having this phone for a few days, it is the first phone I've purchased that is worthy of replacing my Nexus One (and I've bought pretty much every Android device out there that can run on T-Mobile's network). To me, *that* means something big. I bought the Nexus on Jan. 5, and it has taken over eleven months for somebody to finally put something better out.
Love the MT4G!
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I may be in the minority, but I hated the SAMOLED on the Vibrant. The white balance on that device was just awful. Whites were light blue/green. Having much warmer whites that are much closer to the standard is much nicer on the mt4g. Additionally, text was so fuzzy compared to the sharp, much more readable text on the mt4g. Lastly, the colors, while certainly vivid and rich are so far from realistic, it just looked silly. No way would a good calibration specialist worth his weight in salt would arrive at those curves. It's sort of like looking at a TV on the floor of a big box retailer like Best Buy. Apparently, those settings move their TVs, and based on feedback here, people love that HDR-like cartoonish appearance. Their saturation and contrast levels are maxed out, and simply don't provide a realistic picture. The only real advantage of the Vibrant was its ability to show inky dark blacks. That was fantastic.
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I loved the SAMOLED screen on my Vibrant (now sold). However, that was the only thing I loved about that phone. I have to admit, when I got the MT4G and compared both phones side by side, I was slightly disappointed in what appeared to be lacking color saturation on the MT4G's display. However, after using the phone for a couple of days, not only did I begin to like the display and its extremely sharp resolution and text appearance, I forgot all about the SAMOLED.
This was probably aided by the fact that the MT4G is a phenomenally powerful device - in terms of performance, the Vibrant is not even in the same league.

I don't have a MT4G but I did play with one extensively in the store. At the time I had a Nexus 1 and Vibrant so I was a bit sad that the screen did look washed out compared to it, but when used by itself it was perfectly fine. And I do agree the colors look too oversaturated on the amoled screens as well, but the blacks are just so nice.
The thing that I do like about SLCD displays vs. amoled is the pixel layout allows for much sharper text, something I never got used to on amoled, I just dealed with it. For browsing and reading emails the MT4G screen or any SLCD for that matter is far superior than amoled. The iPhone 4's display... wow, nice sharp text. =(

So, I think there's one of two things going on with these phones. I just got my first mt4g on sunday. it came loaded with 2.2.1 and it came with a great quality screen. I had my buddy root it, and i got a little overzealous deleting bloatware and deleted "friendstream" which in turn caused the phone to never complete "syncing" and therefore i always had the syncing logo in the task bar. I took it back to the store and got a replacement....well this one came loaded with 2.2 and had a really washed out screen. I at first thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me....but it was so washed out, i couldn't take it any more....so I took it to another store (a busier store that would likely not be sitting on earlier builds). This one too came with 2.2.1 but also had a washed out screen...
So T-Mobile/HTC is clearly using differen't suppliers for these screens
As it is a completely noticable difference, not only in color/contrast ration, but viewing angles as well.
I will say this, I've owned a Nexus one, a Vibrant and a g2 for a few days. ,(If/When you get a "Good" Screen) I think of all the screens this one may have the best comprimise of sharpness/contrast/color. While the Nexus and Vibrant at first glance look amazing...the text is grainy (screen door effect) and the colors are unrealistic...so when viewing some picture or video it looks like cartoonish. That said, if you get a Washed out screen....it's probably the worst of all three.
I will be going back to the store in a few days to try and exchange and get a good one again.
That's my 2 pennies.
PS, I'd also like to add...that yes...I set all of them to "auto brightness" so that was not a factor.

Follow up to my previous post. There is NOTHING in 2.2.1 that improves the screen quality. There is an obvious case of more than one manufacturer making the LCD's in these phones. Because after replacement this one came with 2.2 and has a better screen. Also, We opened 5 phones at the store and all of them had washed out colors until i finally said "let's try a plum one instead of black" and that one had a good screen with higher contrast ratio. So now I'm on a Plum MT4G...and while it's not my first choice....it's pretty cool and leaps and bounds above white or red. And the Picture Quality; Better blacks, richer colors and better viewing angles than the previous two I had.
I'd encourage anyone dissatisfied to return to the T-Mobile store you purchased and ask them to open up several, before processing the exchange so that you can get a good one. The easiest way to tell, is turn the phone slightly off angle....if it gets washed out, it's the bad one. If the colors stay rich then it's a good one. The Nexus live wall paper is also very telling on a good one as the colors pop more and the grey scale is far more defined... I will try and take a photo of mine next to a washed out one so You guys can see the difference as well, soon!

Wow.. interesting stuff, btbuck1. I await your photos.
Quick question.. did you have a chance to compare the "newer" screen with the screen of a G2? I had the G2 for a few weeks and when the MT4G came out, I compared both phones at a tmobile store. The difference in the contrast and color was obvious. I wonder how the newer batch of MT4G screens compare now to the G2.

I used the G2 for about 4 days before going to the MT4G. But, I went back to the NEXUS ONE in between the two for about a week and a half so it wasn't an immediate comparison. But from what I can remember this "Good" MT4G is BETTER than the G2 in screen quality. But, the MT4G's with the poor screens couldn't stand up to the G2 at all, and certainly not to the N1.
But, I like the overall screen quality of the good MT4G's over all the phones I've had. Including the N1 & Vibrant.

btbuck1 said:
So, I think there's one of two things going on with these phones. I just got my first mt4g on sunday. it came loaded with 2.2.1 and it came with a great quality screen. I had my buddy root it, and i got a little overzealous deleting bloatware and deleted "friendstream" which in turn caused the phone to never complete "syncing" and therefore i always had the syncing logo in the task bar. I took it back to the store and got a replacement....well this one came loaded with 2.2 and had a really washed out screen. I at first thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me....but it was so washed out, i couldn't take it any more....so I took it to another store (a busier store that would likely not be sitting on earlier builds). This one too came with 2.2.1 but also had a washed out screen...
So T-Mobile/HTC is clearly using differen't suppliers for these screens
As it is a completely noticable difference, not only in color/contrast ration, but viewing angles as well.
I will say this, I've owned a Nexus one, a Vibrant and a g2 for a few days. ,(If/When you get a "Good" Screen) I think of all the screens this one may have the best comprimise of sharpness/contrast/color. While the Nexus and Vibrant at first glance look amazing...the text is grainy (screen door effect) and the colors are unrealistic...so when viewing some picture or video it looks like cartoonish. That said, if you get a Washed out screen....it's probably the worst of all three.
I will be going back to the store in a few days to try and exchange and get a good one again.
That's my 2 pennies.
PS, I'd also like to add...that yes...I set all of them to "auto brightness" so that was not a factor.
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I noticed the same thing regarding different displays on the MT4G. My first MT4G had a display that washed out quickly at angles. My 2nd MT4G's display does not wash out as much and generally looks better.

DADDYDC650 said:
I noticed the same thing regarding different displays on the MT4G. My first MT4G had a display that washed out quickly at angles. My 2nd MT4G's display does not wash out as much and generally looks better.
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Yes, I noticed before when my phone was on my desk and i got a text, i could read it while it was sitting there....then when i got the replacement phone i would have to pick the phone and face it toward me....now again with this "good screen" I can see the texts while it's sitting on the table.
I'm telling you folks, it's a night and day difference in Picture quality.
I think T-Mobile needed a ton of these for the holiday demand and HTC outsourced the screens from different manufacturers....and left some looking "Awesome!" and some looking " Meh? =/ "
My buddy tried to take pics at the store of his vs. one with the washed out screen, but it was difficult to tell with a phone camera, need a real digital camera to show it.

Maybe from here on in, for those of you claim there is a difference, please let us know where the "good" ones and "bad" ones were manufactured. Could be a pattern there. I believe this information can be found by the battery on the inside.

Mine does look good even contrast isn't "unlimited" because the screen is not AMOLED.

G2x LCD Backlight bleed issue, pretty bad [pic]

Looks like this is going to be a larger issue than I thought. Major Manufacturer defect it sounds like. Engadget mentioned it on test unit.
Android 2.2 has a white notification bar so people don't and wont notice it, but boot screen, games, or video's with black it is noticeable and is NOT acceptable. Android 2.3 black notification bar you'd see it every time you look at phone.
I just got my brand new G2x today, and noticed this in the first 10 seconds. I'll be getting it replaced asap. Sadly can't do in store replacement cuz ordered online, different systems. So I have to wait for another to come in the mail.
http://yfrog.com/h4ey8fmj
This is during a video, that is WAY to much, it is also on the bottom of same side, but not as bad. So for those that cant tell, both right and left of the top of the phone has bleeding
MyTouch4G left, and the G2x with bleed on right!

Not good at all.

I have this problem as well, hopefully the replacement unit doesn't have the same issue :/

I have the same problem. Replacement units plus brick and mortar launch I smell backordered

Called store and store purchases can be replaced, but if you bought online then you must go through online for the new one. I might just go buy one in store tomorrow, and return my online purchase. lol.
Instead of waiting for a replacement to come in the mail.. this is BS though, they had plenty of time to check for these sort of things.

Both right and left have it when in portrait. So holding the phone for daily use, you can't see it, but on the top, both sides have pretty bad bleeding, the left (not in picture) is not as bad, but very close. overall this is terrible to see happening on such an amazing device. All the excitement I had coming home to open this, went to **** within 10 seconds when I saw that on boot screen.
uhhh.
Update, I can't even adjust my screen brightness, the option is greyed out on my phone. Anyone else with that problem?
Here is another shot using the app called DRAW!, screen goes black and you can draw on it, check out the difference.
MyTouch 4G on left, G2x on right. lol.

xguntherc said:
Update, I can't even adjust my screen brightness, the option is greyed out on my phone. Anyone else with that problem?
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That happened on mine when I skipped the setup wizard (hit "Exit") during the first bootup.

This is not good...

Calling T-Mobile about this **** tomorrow..... vibrant problems to sgs4g problems now this!?
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Try exchanging it.

A little part of me died when i saw this issue... I am going in the store early tomorrow... guess i have to take a hoodie to create a dark environment and check for bleeding... did this happen right away like out of the box or after a few reboots and such?

I have a SLIGHT backlight bleed (not really noticeable) on the top left and even less on the bottom left - however, this doesn't affect the usability of the phone and I think you're just picking things to slam the G2x on. NO PHONE IS EVER PERFECT! Get over your nitpicking and move on or go to another phone - pretty much guaranteed that whatever replacement you get is going to have the same issues. End of story. Deal with it and move on (it only really affects blacks anyway) or go to another phone.

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I have a SLIGHT backlight bleed (not really noticeable) on the top left and even less on the bottom left - however, this doesn't affect the usability of the phone and I think you're just picking things to slam the G2x on. NO PHONE IS EVER PERFECT! Get over your nitpicking and move on or go to another phone - pretty much guaranteed that whatever replacement you get is going to have the same issues. End of story. Deal with it and move on (it only really affects blacks anyway) or go to another phone.
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Or just wait for the SGS2 which might have an unlocked boot loader but will never get source when CM8 w/ 2.4 comes out and it's a whirlwind of hating samsung like w/ my sgs vibrant........i'll stick w/ LG maybe they will release source much faster idk, i think i can deal w/ backlighting bleeding as long as it's minimal and it's not insane yuck....i doubt it will be...will see...

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Or just wait for the SGS2 which might have an unlocked boot loader but will never get source when CM8 w/ 2.4 comes out and it's a whirlwind of hating samsung like w/ my sgs vibrant........i'll stick w/ LG maybe they will release source much faster idk, i think i can deal w/ backlighting bleeding as long as it's minimal and it's not insane yuck....i doubt it will be...will see...
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What people don't understand is that EVERY LCD WILL HAVE BACKBLEED. Its just part of the process. But compare a Captivate with SAMOLED side by side with the G2x and you'll quickly notice that the colors on the G2x are much more realistic than the Captivate/SGS and on top of that, SAMOLED integrates a pentile matrix display which essentially cuts the actually visible resolution in half in comparison to the IPS-LCD that the G2x utilizes. I can actually see the pixels on my Captivate - I can NOT see them on my G2x because it uses an LCD. I'm quite happy with my G2x so far - hell my roommate was playing NFS for 2 hours and my battery went down 20% - my Cap can't even run the same APK (I rooted and installed it on the Cap - frame rate was abysmal - everyone says the PowerVR 540 is a better chip than the nVidia but the fact of the matter is that nVidia has a lot of hold in the industry due to their desktop presence and that makes a huge dent in the other chips - nVidia chips are easier to program for and as time goes on (Ice Cream for example), only then will the full power of these chips actually come to light.

EtherealRemnant said:
What people don't understand is that EVERY LCD WILL HAVE BACKBLEED. Its just part of the process. But compare a Captivate with SAMOLED side by side with the G2x and you'll quickly notice that the colors on the G2x are much more realistic than the Captivate/SGS and on top of that, SAMOLED integrates a pentile matrix display which essentially cuts the actually visible resolution in half in comparison to the IPS-LCD that the G2x utilizes. I can actually see the pixels on my Captivate - I can NOT see them on my G2x because it uses an LCD. I'm quite happy with my G2x so far - hell my roommate was playing NFS for 2 hours and my battery went down 20% - my Cap can't even run the same APK (I rooted and installed it on the Cap - frame rate was abysmal - everyone says the PowerVR 540 is a better chip than the nVidia but the fact of the matter is that nVidia has a lot of hold in the industry due to their desktop presence and that makes a huge dent in the other chips - nVidia chips are easier to program for and as time goes on (Ice Cream for example), only then will the full power of these chips actually come to light.
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My HD7 has absolutely no bleed and it's an LCD...

Screen flickering???
Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?

sikkboy626 said:
Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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My Nexus always did this as well. I think this is more a problem with Android and adjusting the brightness too frequently based on small changes in light as opposed to looking for averages over a minute or so.
Luckily CyanogenMod 7 has incorporated several manual adjustments to how often this sensor changes your backlight and it makes a huge difference. Prior to that, I always just used manual backlight adjustment because it is pretty annoying.

I'm not nitpicking.. lol I can't believe people see that and think it is acceptable. you will see that everytime you look at the phone with Android 2.3 or any black bar mod..
I've heard from many that had this issue, and MANY that have zero bleed, so I will be replacing it to see if it is any better.

sikkboy626 said:
Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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I would just use manual brightness anyway. Not a lot of people know this but keeping your screen brightness set to automatic will drain your battery faster than running it at full brightness. It's been tested on multiple Android devices.

Also have the bleed issue, has anyone heard if LG or Tmo have acknowledged the problem?

question about display

Hey guys, I have a question about our skyrockets displays. When I look straight at mine, it's kid yellow. But when I slightly tilt it at any angle it becomes whiter bluer. It's like going from warm colors straight to cold.
Is this normal on a super amoled plus? Never had one before and I'm coming from the ips display on an iPhone.
It doesn't bother me, but I'm just curious.

Mine does the same thing. At least in this app. I don't recall if I have ever looked at this phone or an iPhone before from that acute angle. I try to notice.
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its the way the phone is. It doesn't have a true white display due to Amoled screen. Do a search and you will know more of other people complain about this.

Huh. I hadn't noticed this until just now. It's not intolerable but yes, seems to be true.
However, no one does true black like Samsung, and the positive aspects of the screen far outweigh this as well as the lines you see when not in full bright mode (I usually keep mine on full brightness anyways).

[Q] Screen pinkness (is mine normal?)

Hi all,
Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!

Oh that's really pink! Will check mine when it finishes the first round charging.

I would say this isn't normal. On amoled Displays white areas appear a bit blueish or grey. But this red/pink looks unnormal
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no, this doesn't look normal. But the thin red and green outlines are caused by the pentile-matrix, this is normal.

Just download Screen Adjuster and increase blue and green values a bit and your red screen will be gone

That's a v. useful app! It's definitely taken the edge off (green & blue at +5), but I'll still pursue a replacement as the contrast has taken a bit of a hit now.
(I'm such a perfectionist!)

Fondue said:
Hi all,
Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!
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I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...

Thiesen said:
I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...
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Well, when I say "see" I meant on their own One S rather than on my screenshot.

I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?

djpc said:
I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?
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Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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encho said:
Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...

That's looking odd definitely. Let us know if the replacement is better.
I haven't noticed any issue on mine
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mine screen is definitely on the warm side of things (meaning the whites are yellow'ish). seeing how One X has a yellow tint issue (different screen manufacturers involved it seems) and you're playing a screen lottery i wonder if One S is the same. slightly warmer screens is not an issue per se but a strong yellow tint definitely effects the overall brightness and sharpness. i would love to compare different units in store to see if One S with cooler screens actually exist.
the pink tint is a straight up defect, however.

Fondue said:
Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...
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This probably won't help you. It won't hurt I guess, but this is something that can be worked out with a software solution. The SGS had something called Voodoo Colors, and I'm assuming that at some point that'll make it to the One S, as it's an AMOLED device as well. The colors changing on low brightness is one of the characteristics of an AMOLED screen.
As a poster above recommended, install that tool and set adjust the values for now. In due time, this'll be worked out. HTC just didnt do a great job with their color profile.

The pink screen

So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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mopar said:
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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When I got this phone in my opinion it was clear whit but tgen when I tried reducing the red colour it became even more clearer, I don't know it's probably I didn't pay attention to the colour when I got this phone...
In my opinion the blue light filter messes up the display although I know this isn't the case..

I got a replacement new phone as I cracked the screen on my first one, and my new one, if anything is slightly cooler / bluer than I usually like, no red / pink issues I can see. My last one was ever so slightly reddish even with red slider down.

for me it is fixed after:
- specific sw update
- set adaptive display
- set display tone to cooler option (-1 or -2 from the slide bar in display settings)

Out of the box mine is fine. I swapped my first one that had a pinkish display even when red turned all the way down.

mopar said:
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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if i understand your question right then yes, there are devices without the ted tint issue!

I went into 4 shops and looked at 8 phones and everyone of them had the red /pink issue only 1 could you turn down red to reduce it in adaptive settings when it became blue/green white and all were red In photo and cinema settings

I bought my s8+ ten days ago, after two days I changed it because of pink borders... Before change, I powered on two new s8+, one were all red (not only borders), the other one was nearly perfect... But I had to choose another color (orchid gray) instead of my first black phone... It's a shame that we have to choose the phone from the color of display and not from the color of the phone...
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My screen is pretty noticeably green-tinted, but it somehow gets corrected when sliding the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, making the display more warm. Even though the issue is too much green, making the display warmer seems to fix it somehow. I know that the issue is green, because sliding down the green slider under advanced options fixes it, while sliding down the blue or red one just makes it worse
And pro tip, you can combine the cool / warm slider with the advanced options RGB sliders, if the warm / cool slider isn't enough on its own. Perfect mix for me is the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, and green slider decreased by 1-2. You could fix a bright red display with the combination of the general slider and the RGB sliders

I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.

Funny thing about red screen and pink tint. I have my s8 plus since a week. My device came with lots of red tint, then I got an update that really helped, but still wasn't perfect. After few days my screen lost pink/red tint without adjusting anything. Of course, little pink tint on the edges exist but it's due to screen specifics.

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I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.
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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!

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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?

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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?
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Ok, I will definitely try the calibration outside. I'm not sure I've tried it outside on a bright day yet. I am using the adaptive display setting and auto brightness, all of the other modes are quite pink and unusable, actually the tint is more of a magenta. I'm fairly certain its the adaptive display mode shifting my white balance in the various environments. Hopefully Samsung will somehow fix the other modes as well. The more I use my phone, the more I realize the biggest problem is the color shift that happens at angles. Almost any movement up, down, left, or right will produce a pink tint. If i go to an even stronger angle (around 75 degrees)the tint goes away. I can also get rid of it by turning both the red and blue down all the way and set the slider fully towards cool. The pink is gone when I do this, but then everything's really blue/green. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely give it a try and let you know how it works.

I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr

I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.

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I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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Are you on csc SEE ?

vimto25 said:
I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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Carrier?
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Carrier?
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XEU

gregoryostrom said:
I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr
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There is no chance I'd allow Samsung to "repair" my phone. This thing is brand new. You make them get you a BRAND NEW device out of a box you open in wherever you purchased it. Then you move forward in the store and check that display and all other fun things. Once satisfied, buy that unit. Why ever take a repair on something less than 1 month old. Have fun selling my OG unit as a refurb Sammy!