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Mugen 1500mAH

I am thinkin of pulling the trigger on this
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...ery-for-for-htc-desire-hd-softbank-001ht.html

If you get it, let us know your results. Too bad it's backordered for a few weeks. Hopefully those positive reviews aren't fake. 1500 mAH might be impossible in such a thin battery but who knows.

Mugen batteries are known to under preform from their mAh claims. I would be wary a any battery that claims more power without needing a new battery door as the only way to substantially increase the mAh is to increase the size of the battery. There is also no stated dimensions on the page.
Until a company figures out that they can add to the length of the battery with a modified door we're not going to see numbers beyond 1300.
Edit: I think HTC may have something in the works. This is what I'd wait for. Sales of this phone are through the roof so it makes sense that they could do this and get a return on the investment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13001874&postcount=139

Oh wow. This is awesome. I guess I'll sit tight to see what HTC has in the oven.

(Regarding a possible extended HTC battery) I'm more than pleased with my battery life, but this is awesome. I would definitely buy - right now I'm getting about 1.5 days out of my phone, if I could make it to two days and charge every other night/ insure a full day with HEAVY use I would be very verrrry happy.

How are you getting such life?
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churro7 said:
How are you getting such life?
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This is basically how I use my phone
-CM7
-Regular Use: Browsing internet is somewhat light, because I make good use out of the Pulse newsreader app. I'll check twitter/facebook a few times, make about an hour or so of phone calls per day, send about 15 texts, check xda a lot, and use audiogalaxy to stream my music library, and use runkeeper to track my runs when I'm running outside (when it is nice out) and I rarely run for less than an hour.
-2 Google Accounts, one of which is set to sync in the background (for gmail, calendar etc.)
-Auto Bright
-Wifi/GPS left on
-Social accounts syncing manually
I don't ALWAYS get 1.5 days. I get 1.5 days usually when my usage is somewhat light. I usually make the judgement call the night before if I need to charge or not. If I do charge after one day of pretty heavy use, the battery is almost always above 20% after a solid 24 hours.

Anyone else got HTC to tell this too?
It sounds like they just said that to get people off their back
anit77 said:
Mugen batteries are known to under preform from their mAh claims. I would be wary a any battery that claims more power without needing a new battery door as the only way to substantially increase the mAh is to increase the size of the battery. There is also no stated dimensions on the page.
Until a company figures out that they can add to the length of the battery with a modified door we're not going to see numbers beyond 1300.
Edit: I think HTC may have something in the works. This is what I'd wait for. Sales of this phone are through the roof so it makes sense that they could do this and get a return on the investment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13001874&postcount=139
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has anyone here gotten one?

churro7 said:
Anyone else got HTC to tell this too?
It sounds like they just said that to get people off their back
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866-449-8358
Give them a call and see what they tell you.

Since no one posted I thought I'd give them a call and it turns out that churro7 might be right. I was told that HTC doesn't manufacture the batteries and was given a list of "Authorized" accessory stores online. She told me to check with them. So it sounds like the guy in the other thread was probably fed a line of ****.
The only thing HTC would make looks like it would be the new door. That's not to say they aren't contracting out the battery but I'd like to hear this from a credible source before I buy into it.
For the time being Sedio's 1300mAh looks like the only option.
Does anyone know of a battery that will fit but is longer? Obviously the contacts would have to line up right.
The dimensions are 52mm x 46mm x 5mm with the 46 being where we can go longer. The Thunderbolt's???
If I knew for sure one would fit I would order it along with getting HTC to send me a replacement battery door. Then I'd take the power tools to my original door to see if a little tweaking might make it work.

What about the mugen?
I'm getting better battery life than in my epic
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churro7 said:
What about the mugen?
I'm getting better battery life than in my epic
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I would rather buy another stock one than buy a Mugen.
Look at the results of other Mugen batteries here.

You think this one is the same as the others?
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Unless they are better able to utilize the internal space of the housing there is no way to extend the mAh capacity without also increasing the size of the housing. It would take new technology.
I'm not here to tell you how to spend your money. If you want to take a chance then by all means get yourself one. Then report your findings good or bad. That way others can make a more educated decision.

Don't waste your money.
Just Google Mugen batteries. You'll see plenty of negative feedback regarding their batteries.
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What about a lipo or nimh battery? Is our stock battery lipo?
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I see AA batteries ranging from 700mah to 2700mah in nicad or nimh form. How did they do it?
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http://www.dinodirect.com/htc-desire-hd-liion-battery-business-rechargeable-1500mah.html
Check that out cheap lol
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No decent battery so far for Ins4g, not worth the money for upgrade getting little improvement.

2430mah battery

Has anyone tried it? GBP 12,95
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Description:
Manufactured in Japan, this premium ultra-high capacity replacement Gold battery is designed & tested to ensure performance and quality. Engineered from professional cutting-edge Japanese research and development, this premium Gold battery can guarantee quality and safety providing you with the maximum reliability, durability and run-time you need so you never run out of power every time.
Its high-quality flexible connectors offer excellent conductive and anti-corrosive properties extending the use of your phone between charges wherever you go. This brand new battery provides a high capacity of 2430mAh to increase your mobile phone's talk time and allow you to use your phone as long as you need to.
This battery is safe to use, identical in size & shaped to the original manufacturer's batteries and far better value for money. So with an extra battery on hand you can ensure that you never run out of power again!
Link:
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I'm very skeptical of this ad. Often times batteries off ebay are actually only 1000mah. And judging by the fact that the size is the same as the original stock battery, I'm betting the actual mah is way lower than 2430.

You're kidding right?
There's been a few threads about this battery already.
I have four of them.
I bought two and when I complained,they shipped two more.
The first two...no way.
They held about 75% of the stock capacity.
The second two look to be a different manufacturer,but the same size.
I haven't tried them yet.
They're all the same size as stock and yes,the first two had the spacer inside to take up the slack.
They were also bought from e_cell.
Does that clear it up for you?

The Radius Kid said:
You're kidding right?
There's been a few threads about this battery already.
I have four of them.
I bought two and when I complained,they shipped two more.
The first two...no way.
They held about 75% of the stock capacity.
The second two look to be a different manufacturer,but the same size.
I haven't tried them yet.
They're all the same size as stock and yes,the first two had the spacer inside to take up the slack.
They were also bought from e_cell.
Does that clear it up for you?
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so what is the best battery with good capacity??

Anker 1900mAh
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sn4k3 said:
So what is the best battery with good capacity??
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I'll say Anker as well.
I've got one coming,but it's not here yet.
I'm using an Andida and it looks a bit better than stock,even though it's stock sized and weight.
Definitely as good as stock.
If you don't mind a new back cover and thicker phone,apparently the new Mugen 3400+ [IIRC] is quite a beast.
That will require a bit of digging around to sort out a case option for it though.

i have anker 1900 and galilelo 1800 both working very good
even though i still want stronger batteries

[Q] Extended battery live 2450mha

Anyone tried this one:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/2450mAh-HIGH...663?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item53e9602c2f
sounds promissing...

100% fake.
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I've got one of these. However they are fake? The battery life from what I've seen is not too much more than the normal battery. I've got another which came with my dock and I don't see much difference between that which is 1600 and the "2400". Also I may not be the best person to comment on it as I change my rom so much I use a lot of power in different roms which use more or less power.
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It's not fake!
I have this battery about a month now and it's really great ok it's not sooo big but it lasts at least 2 days of full use,so obviously it's not fake it's really great and i think it worth to spend 10 bucks for it...

Please guys, be realistic.
How the hell should some unknown manufacturer put 2450 mAh of power in the same technology (Li-Ion) in the same size and shape in a battery with the same safety standards?
Based on basic chemistry knowledge that is pure bull****.
Even Mugen had problems pressing 1500 mAh in the same size and I'm sure they had to make the walls a little thinner (what is pretty risky) for that amount of energy-rich mass.
That is absolutely impossible and it is naive to think it is real.
It may be a halfway good replacement for the stock battery but it does never reach 2450 mAh. Never.

All of you guys who think the battery life is longer than stock may think as a placebo effect. As Dr. Lele said it's impossible to pack so much in so little size as of today's technology.

lol, the only battery that has better performance than the OEM one, is Mugen's.
They managed to squeeze 1500mAh into the battery.
I am planning to commercialise a 3000mAh Gold (etc) battery on ebay, with secret Chinese circuitry, for just €6 (no, not really)

what i've learnt about replacement batteries -> if it looks too good to be true, it DEFINITELY isn't true.

amusedkid said:
what i've learnt about replacement batteries -> if it looks too good to be true, it DEFINITELY isn't true.
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Very true. I think a lot of it is the placebo effect... I tend to on a morning go and get that "2450mah" battery instead of the stock HTC ones. Most the time I cycle through the batteries but if I have to choose, I choose that just because it may get a little bit better battery life.... But I'm also worried it's cheaply made and might leak or something inside the phone..

Fake
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To the vendor, If you are going to try to sell crap like this, at least make the claims more believable.
lol

It's hard to believe, that some unknown facturer could produce such a battery :l
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND; look at his feedback :/
not that bad...

I have tried it have it and not using it because is piece of crap. It was good on the beginning and than it stopped holding the charge... very short life time....crap
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over 2000mAh for less than 10 bucks? suuuuure....
oh wait...it's got a gold label! must be legit!!
Ive got a 1900mAh battery which is a good chunk bigger than the stock 1230mAh battery from htc and i won't ever believe that someone can produce such a "golden" battery out of thin air....

Unfortunately these batteries are likely going to only have 2 of the 3:
1. Upgraded capacity
2. Safety
3. Longevity
The only other option is a 3.8v chemistry battery, which is being used by Motorola, but it will likely not be fully charged by the phone.
Anyway, the stock battery gives 4.55 Whrs, a 3.8v version would give 4.67 Whrs. Which is to say, you're basically getting nothing extra.

Meh no trust gold battery...
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Scr!pt0 said:
It's hard to believe, that some unknown facturer could produce such a battery :l
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND; look at his feedback :/
not that bad...
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No, the answer is that it is physically impossible to produce such a battery. Please try again.

Review Mugen Power 3600mah battery

Hey everyone ! I recently got an extended battery for my Sensation for around $90 as it was much needed to meet my usage !
I thought I would share the feedback with you guys !
Mugen Power is a 3rd party battery manufacturer, and is known for it's "extended" batteries. If you’re an owner of a high end Android phone you too are probably facing a very poor power backup with the stock batteries and that’s where extended batteries come into play.
Basically, Mugen promises something near double battery life with this extended battery life, let's see how this extended battery fairs.
Unboxing
This battery comes in a very small, compact and simple backing - it has a leaflet with the instructions and standard warnings, a back door and the extended battery itself.
Look and Feel
We already know the HTC Sensation is not a very thin device in itself, and by adding the Mugenextended battery and the battery door, it does get noticibly thick - but for double battery life which it promises, the thickness can be bared - at least for me !
One would think that this battery adds a significant ammount of weight to the phone, but on the contrary it does not add any weight which can be significantly felt.
It's also nice to know that the backdoor cover fits perfectly on to the Sensation, and the feel of the replacement cover is not different from the stock one
However, with the extended battery users with small hands will find it a little difficult to hold on the phone for long durations at a go, rest shall be fine.
Performance
The li-ion extended battery which we were provided was rated at 3600mAh which is more than double of the stock battery on the HTC Sensation which is 1560mAh, so was the battery life also double ? Let's find out.
I have been using the HTC Sensation for almost 2 months now and with moderate usage, casual browsing, push email and constant interactions along with a lot of IM and calls, it did last me around 11 hours or so with moderate usage.
But on days when I had heavy usage, with constant data transfers on wi-fi or 3G along with lot of media playback, games, calls and IM - going beynod 8 hours was a tough task for the Sensation.
Now I did spend a nine days on the Sensation with the Mugen Power extended battery, and yes, it works ! And works pretty well following are the figures :
Heavy Usage : 2 days
Moderate Usage : 3 days
Light usage : 5 days
Now let me describe my usage, my heavy I mean constant connectivity either via 3G or wi-fi, 5 email accounts with push email and mails coming in every hour or so on all 5, constant IM i.e. Google talk and Facebook chat, off and on internet browsing, around 40 pictures shot, around 3 hours of voice call, lots of media playback (songs) and even video streaming.
My moderate usage I mean, data connectivity on 2G and wi-fi, push email, selective IM, and 2-3 hours of voice call, with causal browsing and media playback.
Light usage is more like a few texts, some casual browsing and a few calls in a day, with hardly any data usage - more like constant standby.
Conclusion
The Mugen battery is a very good buy and lives up to it's promise of increased power backup. It is a must have for hardcore users and the people who travel a lot, regardless of their usage patterns.
One would however have to bare the slight increase in the thickness of the phone, but amazing amount of backup one gets is well worth it.
But, if you are a light user, and mostly have the phone on standby with a few calls a day, Mugen Power is not for you.
Also note that the HTC Sensation has been known for the "Death grip" issues - but don\t worry the added thickness or the replacement door on the Mugen extended battery does not affect the signal receiving capabilities of the HTC Sensation.
Overall, the battery lives up to the promise of double battery life and has left me much more mobile fearless about the phone battery finishing suddenly !

Is it worth it though? You can buy 2 Chichitec 1800mAh batteries for $40, or other brands like that through ebay

The replacement battery door doesn't look the same as the original battery door from what I can see. Can you post some pics of your phone for us to see

thunderskain said:
The replacement battery door doesn't look the same as the original battery door from what I can see. Can you post some pics of your phone for us to see
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You can watch this video to see how it looks
www.youtube.com/v/s6moi12ZL-4

The back cover is completely different than the original one... It feels cheap and it's not even on the same planet as the original cover.
Also the "8 MEGA PIXELS" mark under the camera is horrible. It's printed very bad and it feels like on fake chinese phones. The battery is awesome, but the cover sucks completely.

Just delivered. Very disappointed, though I have read negative impressions on this forum before... It decreases wifi strength up from 100% to 30%. When you're near wifi router it works fine (like in the video), but when you're 5 metres away from router it drops to 30%.
Does anyone know how to solve this problem? I understand, that their battery cover is extremely bad and doesn't allow to use wifi.. May be there are alternative battery covers for such battery?

galaktiker said:
Just delivered. Very disappointed, though I have read negative impressions on this forum before... It decreases wifi strength up from 100% to 30%. When you're near wifi router it works fine (like in the video), but when you're 5 metres away from router it drops to 30%.
Does anyone know how to solve this problem? I understand, that their battery cover is extremely bad and doesn't allow to use wifi.. May be there are alternative battery covers for such battery?
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Mugen has announced sometime ago on their Facebook that for the Sensation battery they have developed a new backcover that solves the signal issue. Contact them, they will replace it, they always do.

okishead said:
Mugen has announced sometime ago on their Facebook that for the Sensation battery they have developed a new backcover that solves the signal issue. Contact them, they will replace it, they always do.
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Please tell the date of the message.

Anyway I checked the latest messages in the group and didn't find any mentionings. Only hidden advetisement. If they really replace battery cover to a working one, it's good. But right now I DON'T RECOMMEND to buy it if wifi is important for you.

if you get a powerskin and an anker 1900mah battery, you get the same total size battery power, but also have the ability to remove the silicon case and/or turn off the second battery in the powerskin to be used at a later time, and for half the price of the mugen.

Mattcdillon said:
if you get a powerskin and an anker 1900mah battery, you get the same total size battery power, but also have the ability to remove the silicon case and/or turn off the second battery in the powerskin to be used at a later time, and for half the price of the mugen.
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I just wish powerskin redesigned it and got rid of the fin at the side...
otherwise I would have been rocking it.
stll, I think it's a better alternative to the mugen...

Mainspring said:
stll, I think it's a better alternative to the mugen...
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Mugen is not an alternative any more. No one wants to get Sensation without wifi and weak 3g, but with an extended battery. I am very angry...

Mainspring said:
I just wish powerskin redesigned it and got rid of the fin at the side...
otherwise I would have been rocking it.
stll, I think it's a better alternative to the mugen...
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a 1900mah battery is a better alternative than 3600mah? Imho, these are two completely different products that have different purposes. Btw, Mugen offers 1950mah battery as a slim battery alternative.

okishead said:
a 1900mah battery is a better alternative than 3600mah? Imho, these are two completely different products that have different purposes. Btw, Mugen offers 1950mah battery as a slim battery alternative.
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get a Anker or Evo 3D battery on top of the powerskin and you basically around the same amount of power as the Mugen.
plus you have the option of going slim with a higher capacity battery(anker/evo 3d) then stock 1520 mah and a gel case that comes with the powerskin.
on top of all that, it's about half the price... (powerskins around $40, Anker $10-15)
you tell me which one is a better alternative...

okishead said:
a 1900mah battery is a better alternative than 3600mah? Imho, these are two completely different products that have different purposes. Btw, Mugen offers 1950mah battery as a slim battery alternative.
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Isnt the 1900mah of the powerskin in addition to the stock battery? If this is the case it makes the two comparable in terms of capacity.

Mainspring said:
get a Anker or Evo 3D battery on top of the powerskin and you basically around the same amount of power as the Mugen.
plus you have the option of going slim with a higher capacity battery(anker/evo 3d) then stock 1520 mah and a gel case that comes with the powerskin.
on top of all that, it's about half the price... (powerskins around $40, Anker $10-15)
you tell me which one is a better alternative...
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I guess, Anker is really targeting people by selling cheap stuff. I have a phone that costs 700$ and you think that paying another 100$ for a quality battery is a problem? Sorry, I don't believe in 10$ batteries because I have used them in the past and I don't support this idea. 10$ price can only be achieved if a company is cutting budget on smth important.
This is a well known fact: who pays cheap always pays twice.

Product placement
Wow, the OP sounds like a product placement or marketing. It is nothing personal but I read so much comments on Mugen...that it sounds like a rip off.
For my taste your posting sounds a bit too perfect. Like loose 20 kg in just 2 weeks.
I got an Anker 1900 mh and it is perfect. 5 to 6 hours with navigation or 24 hours with moderate to heavy usage...on sense 3.5 - stock kernel. What else do you want....I mean you are not awake for 24 hours...every day...are you?
Just my 5 cents.

Byrana said:
Wow, the OP sounds like a product placement or marketing. It is nothing personal but I read so much comments on Mugen...that it sounds like a rip off.
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I'm sure
My experience. Wanna to be objective:
Positive
Battery works from 14 (high usage) to 25 (low usage) hours. It's very good in comparison with 5-7 hours from original battery.
Cover looks pretty good (in comparison with mugen cover for Desire).
Negative
Wifi and 3G/HDSPA problems
Phone started to turn off sometimes.
If new cover solves this problem I will post the information here. Mugen promised me to replace the cover.
P. S. Your Anker refused to deliver me the battery a long time ago. What's more - they don't have a 3600 mah battery like Mugen.

okishead said:
I guess, Anker is really targeting people by selling cheap stuff. I have a phone that costs 700$ and you think that paying another 100$ for a quality battery is a problem? Sorry, I don't believe in 10$ batteries because I have used them in the past and I don't support this idea. 10$ price can only be achieved if a company is cutting budget on smth important.
This is a well known fact: who pays cheap always pays twice.
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hey, if paying more makes you feel better, more power to you buddy.
I currently use the Evo 3D battery. I can add the powerskin and I'd have about the same amount of power as the Mugen...
and as a bonus I won't have wifi problems(talk about cutting corners eh?), have a silicon case to boot, AND I would still be paying less then the Mugen setup.
I won't loose any sleep over paying less for quality accessories for my phone.
and regarding the Anker battery... just look at the Anker thread. so many success stories... doesn't matter the low cost, long as it works... properly, which it seem to do.

Good review! Thanks!

any way to put in a larger battery?

i've become used to a 4500 mah battery in my s3 lasting 12+ hours of heavy game/internet/video use. really want to try the m8 but afraid of the non user replaceable battery.

Short of cutting off the back of the case, and trying to solder a new battery in, and finding one that will work with your phone...no. However, since it's not a user replaceable battery, you kind of answered yourself.
More than likely you'll be able to get a special case with included external battery.

k.electron said:
i've become used to a 4500 mah battery in my s3 lasting 12+ hours of heavy game/internet/video use. really want to try the m8 but afraid of the non user replaceable battery.
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Sure, follow the instructions here: :silly:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
Then try to find a larger battery that will fit into the existing space.
Good luck, you're going to need it!
NOTE: All kidding aside, there's a reason it's called a non-removable battery!

If you need that big of a battery, do not get any phone with non - removable battery. Period.

Get u a external power bank battery.
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JasonJoel said:
If you need that big of a battery, do not get any phone with non - removable battery. Period.
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but this phone is so effin good - s-off means cyanogenmod, which the darned s5 is not going to get.
looked at the ifixit... remove the motherboard to get to the battery that is glued to the lcd.. wtf.. just put the god damn batter at the end so i can replace it HTC wtf.....

holla420 said:
Get u a external power bank battery.
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This is the solution. Anker makes a 3000 mAh option that is barely bigger than the 18650 battery inside it. If that's not enough power, they offer options all the way up to 12000 mAh.

Is this a joke topic? Lol
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k.electron said:
but this phone is so effin good - s-off means cyanogenmod, which the darned s5 is not going to get.
looked at the ifixit... remove the motherboard to get to the battery that is glued to the lcd.. wtf.. just put the god damn batter at the end so i can replace it HTC wtf.....
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Then build a better phone!

Freedom First said:
Then build a better phone!
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if the barrier to entry wasn't ridiculous i would.
really wish verizon would man up and unlock bootloaders. u don't see t mobiles network suddenly dying just because people used unlocked phones. actually now that i think about it, i wish t mobs coverage was the same as verizons.

It is a true unibody metal design. The answer from a cost and modding standpoint is "no way" and the only practical solution is a power pack.
BTW, it would seem HTC must be eating some healthy margin with this design strategy. The build seems too good and that usually comes at a cost. Wonder what their financial quarter results will be for the next two cycles. My education and work background is industrial technology and computer electronics. The M8 cost implications give my brain twitches. Not just the material cost, but the actual manufacturing process and design cost. Yikes.