Hi Everyone
Does anyone know how to take apart the VOX so that the camera lens can be cleaned... mine has some moisture behind it the lens cover.
I have tried to find a service manual but cant find one...
Anyone know ?
Cheers
SteveC
You can carefully pry off the silver back (saying 2.0 megapixels) with a small knife and then you'll have access to the plastic lens-cover, which also can be removed. It's just glued to the back.
However, I have the same problem... It's like a haze on the plastic, haven't been able to clean it :-( Have been thinking to just remove the plastic lens cover, pictures are much clearer without it!
x11freak said:
However, I have the same problem... It's like a haze on the plastic, haven't been able to clean it :-( Have been thinking to just remove the plastic lens cover, pictures are much clearer without it!
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Same problem here but I'm afraid the camera lens won't take the dirt and dust which it is exposed to even when using and transporting the phone very carefully. Thus I did not remove the cover yet, although the photos do look somewhat hazy.
so i dropped my fuze the other day taking it out of the case and when it hit the ground the cover and battery came off and out. i put it back together to inspect the damage and didnt see anything wrong (i was outside at night in a parking lot). when i got back to my house i looked over the phone again in the light and noticed that it looked like my camera lens was all cracked. it turns out that only the square piece of glass in front of the camera was broken and i peeled it off and the camera seems to work fine without it. does anyone know if this affects the lens at all by being exposed and where i might be able to get another square glass cover??? the original one seemed to be glued down so i dont see why i couldnt glue another thin piece of glass overtop of it???
you can probably check out how thick the glass was and then cut off a small piece and glue it down with a normal glue just so it sticks... it's mostly to protect the lens,
yea it has to be 1 mm at most its really small. i'll take it to a camera shop and see if they have anything i can use to fit in where it was. thanks
i dropped my first fuze from a short distance and that little piece of glass broke around the sides. i think its just a noise filter. the camera still worked but there was alot of extra noise which almost seemed to pulse on the image. im taking better care of my replacement fuze.
did att give you a new replacement for free? i think i am just going to hold on to this one and flash it a few times until the fortress comes out sometime at the end of the summer.
I apologize if this has been covered a 1000 times, but I did a cursory search and only run into threads about the screen cover or full-body protection, i.e. the lens cover is almost always just mentioned in passing.
I'm one of the many who have discovered that the plastic lens cover integrated into the battery cover is extremely prone to scratches. I've ordered two extra covers from Expansys, but at this rate, I'll need to get a new one every 2-3 months.
On previous phones, I tried various screen covers that either came with a lense cover (Martin Fields) or cut one out myself, only to find that the clarity of the plastic screen covers causes the pictures to come out hazy or milky. This is partially due to the difficulty of removing fingerprints, but even more due to the fact that screen protectors aren't really designed to be crystal clear like a camera lens is. I invariably took them off and risked it, but on most of my other units, the only thing that was real glass was the lens cover. Not so on the Desire.
Does anyone have any advice on this front?
i use the martin fields lens cover that came with the martins fields screen cover... its very good for the price....
I had an old screen protector that I cut a rectangle to cover the lens.
Looks OK but not perfect.
I may try to cut a circle to cover it properly.
I am not sure how you damage it, i keep my phone in its pouch, when i take it out or put it back down i put the phone ontop of the pouch so the camera is not touching the surface. A cover would i assume make the picture loose quality?
I'm generally very careful with my phones, but accidents happen and I managed to get a bunch of hairline scratches on the lens cover after just 6 weeks with the phone.
hoppi05 said:
i use the martin fields lens cover that came with the martins fields screen cover... its very good for the price....
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Can you show me URL for this product?
Not saying that they haven't made progress, but I used to have a Martin Fields lens protector on my old Omnia i900 and found that the plastic of the lens protector caused hazy pictures even when clean.
I'm beginning to wonder if a liquid solution might be the way to go. Something like clear nailpolish that could be removed and reapplied if it got scratches in it. Anyone hear of something like this?
I've got the same problem, a lot of little scratches at the lens cover which make my photos not as sharp/clear as it should be. I think with the pouch I recently ordered the problem is over, but for now I must order a quite expensive new battery cover.
Quist said:
Not saying that they haven't made progress, but I used to have a Martin Fields lens protector on my old Omnia i900 and found that the plastic of the lens protector caused hazy pictures even when clean.
I'm beginning to wonder if a liquid solution might be the way to go. Something like clear nailpolish that could be removed and reapplied if it got scratches in it. Anyone hear of something like this?
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The liquid would have to be perfectly flat and of uniform thickness to prevent refraction, I doubt such an application could be achieved "at home"
I just use a thick gel skin for my phone and a padded microfibre pouch.
The thickness of the skin makes the lens very deeply recessed so it's way safer.
albert_htc said:
I had an old screen protector that I cut a rectangle to cover the lens.
Looks OK but not perfect.
I may try to cut a circle to cover it properly.
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Lol..u just give me a got idea!! Im going to try it on my sensation!!
Edit: Actualy i already try the rectangular one and its fit perfect. Tomorow i wil try to cut it in round shape one ;P
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take out the lens
Perhaps too obvious, but I knocked out the camera lens in the battery cover. After more than a year still no scratches on the camera itself and perfect pictures (at least, for this camera unit). Protection is sufficient with a pouch.
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Lol..u just give me a got idea!! Im going to try it on my sensation!!
Edit: Actualy i already try the rectangular one and its fit perfect. Tomorow i wil try to cut it in round shape one ;P
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Crap!! It just dont work..after few days dust started to accumulate between the rectangular screen protector and the camera lens. More scratch now!! Crap..crap!! >¦c
P/s: i did try to cut the screen protector round, but the glue of the screen just come out during cutting process..not work also..
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just remove the scratched up bit of plastic and stop worrying, the lens is countersunk below the case anyway,
i removed the plastic lens from my battery cover after having the desire for about 2 weeks, 6-7 months later my pictures still come out as sharp and defined as when new,
if you get any dirt on the camera lens simply take off your battery cover and you can clean it easily,
braddersss said:
just remove the scratched up bit of plastic and stop worrying, the lens is countersunk below the case anyway,
i removed the plastic lens from my battery cover after having the desire for about 2 weeks, 6-7 months later my pictures still come out as sharp and defined as when new,
if you get any dirt on the camera lens simply take off your battery cover and you can clean it easily,
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The worry part is during clean up the camera lens. If i wipe it with some chemical n tissue, there is a high risk the lens get scratch ;c
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naimmkassim said:
The worry part is during clean up the camera lens. If i wipe it with some chemical n tissue, there is a high risk the lens get scratch ;c
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well as i said mines been fine for the last 6-7 months, i just take the battery cover off and give it a wipe with my t shirt or something, no scratches so far,,
braddersss said:
well as i said mines been fine for the last 6-7 months, i just take the battery cover off and give it a wipe with my t shirt or something, no scratches so far,,
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This may not be necessary!
I've been having this issue for ages too.. i clean the plastic lens but it appears to be scratched as pics come out hazy, just like other posters above. I have just pushed out the plastic lens on the battery cover as suggested and sure enough pics are instantly clearer.. however when inspecting the plastic lens cover i realized two things
* the sticky part is very sticky!
* the inside of the plastic part (the sticky side) appears to be dirty..
i cleaned it with one of those cloths you use for specs and since it's still very sticky i put it back in.. tried a few shots with the battery cover on and off, and i' can't notice any difference.. no longer hazy!
sure though, knocking it out avoids having to clean in form the inside .. but i'm afraid of scratching the inside lens.. that one's more difficult to replace
if you REALLY want to go all out, you could take the cover to a jewler/watch repair and have them replace the glass with sapphire crystal... it's so small that it may not cost an outrageous amount, but then they would have to cut it to size...
Bought myself another battery cover from ebay, I hope this one will last, gonna have to figure out how to maintain that new one scratch-free.
The one I bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130544376251?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Another option for those worried about their lens ...
Amazon ( Sorry, I only found it on the german site ) has this item listed :
http://www.amazon.de/Ersatzglas-Kam...WWGK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320922089&sr=8-3
It's a saphire glass replacement lens cover for our beloved Desire , and apparently is very scratchproof (according to reviews) . They had a slight quality problem early in the manufacturing process, the first items came out slightly too large, but it seems that's fixed by now ...
I will order one and give it a try , as I have quite bad scratches in mine after 1.5 years of normal use and don't really want to leave the camera itself uncovered
There are two screws on the bottom of the Tf by the charging port. Then on the back there are clips all around the outer edge of the "Asus" panel. Use any non marring tool for the clips. Once all the clips are loose, the bezel around the screen comes off frome the front. It seems to bemostly plastic with a metal overlay. Then there are ten or eleven philips screws that hold the rear panel on.
Sorry no pics
So the metal bezel comes off first then followed by the plastic back panel which is held in by screws?
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Thats correct. You can see the screws for the back after the bezel is removed.
The metal around the edge is seprate from the back plastic and the front glass. However the metal is extreemly thin and WILL bend with any kind of proping. Also once u remove it getting dust under the glass is going to happen. Also the plastic clips are very ****ty and if one bends or brakes the transformer will not click back on. Its not worth opening this thing up. If u have a issue with your unit call asus and have them fix or return to store.
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The metal around the edge is seprate from the back plastic and the front glass. However the metal is extreemly thin and WILL bend with any kind of proping. Also once u remove it getting dust under the glass is going to happen. Also the plastic clips are very ****ty and if one bends or brakes the transformer will not click back on. Its not worth opening this thing up. If u have a issue with your unit call asus and have them fix or return to store.
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Thanks to everyone who posted this information!
The only thing that bothers me about the TF is the creaking, so I was thinking about fabricating some pieces to upgrade or replace the back, bezel, or both.
couple of questions for you...
--Were you able to determine exactly where the creaking comes from? Is it just the flimsiness of the back panel or the way it all mounts together?
--Also, you mentioned dust getting under the screen after reassembling- so the glass is a completely separate component? How does it attach to the rest of the unit?
--Finally, are there any warranty/tamper seals that get broken during dissassembly?
Thanks again!
I didn't go any further than removing the bezel out of fear that I would break something or not be able to get it back together. I didn't get any dust under my screen and there wasn't a single tamper seal that i saw
I just started developing this odd creaking noise near the bottom and sides of my S4G. Even with a Seidio Active case wrapped around it, the creaking can be felt and heard when hitting the bottom buttons.
The fix is pretty easy. You just need to decrease the amount of movement the back cover has.
I had some .010 mil fiber (fish) paper laying around so I cut a small square that covers the sim card and microsd card area. You can probably use something else, but hey, why not use some insulated paper if you have it.
Lay the paper on top of the area and then slowly place the back cover back on. No holes are in that area above the sim and microsd, so no worries there. You should see an immediate improvement
I needed more than that to stop the creaking/screen movement.
Pathetic we have to go to these lengths
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I needed more than that to stop the creaking/screen movement.
Pathetic we have to go to these lengths
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What did you have to do?
I tried used two squares of paper, but that made the back bulge out a little too much to my liking.
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What did you have to do?
I tried used two squares of paper, but that made the back bulge out a little too much to my liking.
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I took a post-it and folded it twice. Then placed it on the bottom right area and closed up the cover. For me when I press down on the bottom right side of the screen the whole screen sort of depresses a bit. Only way I could get rid of that was to place the paper in that region. Problem solved.
Post it would have been my backup method
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buy another battery, i recently got an anker also had the creaking problems, noticed the anker is a TINY bit thicker than the stock battery and it removed that problem completely. and that anker battery was DIRT cheap
I just lined the case with some scotch tape. from the bottom to about 3/4 of the way up. I just went around the antenna nubs and the usb hole.
Posted this in another thread, but felt it was valuable here too...
Got the creaking here also, definitely a design flaw. Being obsessive with my devices i couldnt live with it!
I do not recommend putting paper in the cover to fill the gap, as this is just expanding the cover further making it even MORE loose when the paper is not in there. Also i wouldn't recommend it because the paper pushes the back cover out a little more, you may loose a connection for the ground. Which is the little metal springy thing, half way up the right hand side. Obviously its not a good idea to 'push' the cover further away from this ground spot. I have heard that people have had issues with screen responsiveness due to a static build up from not grounding properly.
What i did to fix this problem was a bit of a kitbash of sorts.
Mine was creaking on the bottom right area, like most. The problem is there is too much play between the little black catches on the battery cover and the latch on the handset. Instead of filling up the gap between the phone and the cover (Ala paper, card in the cover) I closed it!
What you need to do is get some very thin plastic film. Like that on kids toy packaging etc. Not the thicker stuff though. This stuff would be under 1mm thick. It came as a viewing window in the box my new wallet came in. So you can sorta imagine what im talking about.
I cut a piece about 10mm long and as wide as one of the two little black catches. I applied a VERY thin coat of super glue to one end of the film. Just enough to cover the area under the catch. Then i carefully placed the film with the superglue on it under the catch, and then quickly applied some pressure to it with some tweezers. Then i carefully cut the excess off with a pair of finely tipped nail scissors.
The result is that it now PULLS the screen/phone INTO the cover more by making the little black catch thicker. Not the opposite (paper method), which pushes the cover out, creating a further problem of adding more paper under the cover over time as the cover expands/loosens to compensate. Not to mention a possible grounding loss and resulting damage.
Hope this helps some people that have had multiple replacements or could not be bothered replacing for such a cosmetic issue. (Like me). It definitely works, just got to get your surgeon on and be accurate with your placement of the film.
Apply this to what ever side creaks the most, and bam its gone. Nice. Solid phone... again.
If anyone wants more specific details etc, im all ears.
Regards,
Matt.
will try it with an double side film ...
i mean a film that hold back cover and phone together ;-) i think doing paper in there will do damage with time
I contacted HTC and they sent me another/new one. No more creaking!
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I contacted HTC and they sent me another/new one. No more creaking!
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Back cover or whole phone?
I have the same problem too. And it just seems to get more and more "cracking"