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Okay, I'm absolutely new to the PDA-Dev stuff. I'm a normal desktop software developer and I only use the PDA's as a normal user ;-)
I have the german T-Mobile branded MDA Pro.
So here are my first questions:
1.) Here in the forums we have a few threads about WM6 on the
- WM6 kitchen release
- Jwrightmcps Crossbow
- Final ULTIMATE - No Bugs HTC Universal WM6 ROM
- Universal WM6 Professional Rom
So, on a first look this is oabsolutely verwhelming. What is the right choice? In other words: When wanting to upgrade, what is the most stable version?
2.) What is this AKU stuff that's mentioned in nearly every post? I can't find a clear explanation of what this really is.
3.) I want to upgrade in a legal way. Loosing support on my MDA is not the problem, but I want a legally licenced WM6 on my pda. So where can I get that?
Are there any other hints, tips & tricks you would suggest for starting with that?
I think you on the wrong forum man!
You need Microsoft website
The only legal version of WM is WM5.
reed this
http://www.xda-developers.com/modules.php?name=News&file=showarticle&threadid=294142
1) Really, the only 'stable' ROM is WM5, WM6 will have some problems, but they are getting better.
2) I actually haven't figrude that one out yet... I assume its the version number or something... never really been important.
3) Short answer you can't, long answewr talk to t-mobile.I'm not aware of any carrier releasing WM6 for the universal, but for a legal upgrade you'd have to get it from your carrire (and most likely have them do it)
Okay.. well.. then.. hrm.. just ignore point three.
Back to point 1.) I do not want a rock stable WM6 on my MDA Pro. But when it comes to different WM6 versions/distributions to choose from, I want the most stable of them. So which one is the one to go for?
To Point 2.) I thought about some version numbering too, but I'm not pretty sure about that. But when it's not really important, why making the difference? ;-)
Is video call important to you?
There is still no known stable Video Call on WM6 yet except for the Video Call Beta by Jwright.
I think there is only 2 known source (correct me if I am wrong) of WM6 for Universal floating around in many forums. The one by Helmi (older AKU) & the one by Ivan (newer AKU). The rest are just variants of this 2. With Plus & Minus features, some bug fix, etc.
CWKJ said:
Is video call important to you?
There is still no known stable Video Call on WM6 yet except for the Video Call Beta by Jwright.
I think there is only 2 known source (correct me if I am wrong) of WM6 for Universal floating around in many forums. The one by Helmi (older AKU) & the one by Ivan (newer AKU). The rest are just variants of this 2. With Plus & Minus features, some bug fix, etc.
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There are 3 bases:
The "Old" base (helmi 0.1, midget 0.1[.1], JWright, etc)
Ivan's new ROM (Ivan V1,2,3)
Midget's new ROM (Midget 1.0, Ivan's customisation of Midget, PDAViet (Latest)
My recommendation (and I think this is the fourth, possibly fifth, time I've said this - grab all the ROMs that are stickied to the forum - and test them all. If you're concerned about stability during your tests then get a spare phone to use.
And if you're trully concerned about stability and legality - stick to your vendor's version of WM 5
PhoenixHawk:
I 'was' in the exact same position as you. I'm a software developer, have never upgraded a ROM before and all these "Crossbow", "WM6 Final", "WM6V3.??", "No Bugs", "Final", etc, etc, had me somewhat scratching my head.
In a total nutshell, I did the following:
1
Followed this guide : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tion On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method
(i.e., downloaded WinRar, and "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe")
2
Downloaded the first RAR file from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305512
3
When part 2 had downloaded, I copied the "MaUGradeUt_noID.exe" into the "NOCID_RUU_flasher_xda-devs" directory which is from the extracted RAR file.
4
Copied the "nk.nbf" file from the "Uni_WM6_v3_Ivan" directory into the "NOCID_RUU_flasher_xda-devs" directory from the extracted RAR file.
5
Double-clicked "MaUGradeUt_noID.exe" in the "NOCID_RUU_flasher_xda-devs" directory.
6
Started to worry as the program flashed my ROM.
Some 10 minutes later I had a fully working, zero problem HTC Universal running what looks to be a rock-solid stable version of Windows Mobile 6.
Hope this messages, coming from someone who has never done anything like this before is both easy to follow, 'n00b proof' and proof that it can be done from someone with zero-experience.
I'm sure there's a load of pro's and con's in which ever ROM is downloaded, but I took the chance at what I thought would be an easy to follow option, read as much as possible and it seems to have paid off.
Hope this helps,
J
TehPenguin said:
CWKJ said:
Is video call important to you?
There is still no known stable Video Call on WM6 yet except for the Video Call Beta by Jwright.
I think there is only 2 known source (correct me if I am wrong) of WM6 for Universal floating around in many forums. The one by Helmi (older AKU) & the one by Ivan (newer AKU). The rest are just variants of this 2. With Plus & Minus features, some bug fix, etc.
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There are 3 bases:
The "Old" base (helmi 0.1, midget 0.1[.1], JWright, etc)
Ivan's new ROM (Ivan V1,2,3)
Midget's new ROM (Midget 1.0, Ivan's customisation of Midget, PDAViet (Latest)
PhoenixHawk said:
Okay.. well.. then.. hrm.. just ignore point three.
Back to point 1.) I do not want a rock stable WM6 on my MDA Pro. But when it comes to different WM6 versions/distributions to choose from, I want the most stable of them. So which one is the one to go for?
To Point 2.) I thought about some version numbering too, but I'm not pretty sure about that. But when it's not really important, why making the difference? ;-)
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My recommendation (and I think this is the fourth, possibly fifth, time I've said this - grab all the ROMs that are stickied to the forum - and test them all. If you're concerned about stability during your tests then get a spare phone to use.
And if you're trully concerned about stability and legality - stick to your vendor's version of WM 5
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Your answer should be like above.
PhoenixHawk need the second part, not me.
I thought Midget's was derived from Ivan's, so I was wrong.
@J
You are right, once you get the first working, you can read on or try as many until you are happy with one.
I'll give it a try.
I don't have a spare phone, so my regular one will have to keep up with me ;-)
But first things first: Currently I have some problems getting my MDA Pro syncing with my Vista client. The mobile device center just won't recognize my pda when it's connected. And I can't start about thinking flashing the rom until that's not working... anyone a clue?
PhoenixHawk said:
I'll give it a try.
I don't have a spare phone, so my regular one will have to keep up with me ;-)
But first things first: Currently I have some problems getting my MDA Pro syncing with my Vista client. The mobile device center just won't recognize my pda when it's connected. And I can't start about thinking flashing the rom until that's not working... anyone a clue?
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Take some advice (I didn't listen, thought I was better than everyone else and ending up bricking my phone everytime).
Do NOT use Vista. For the sake of an hour's additional work in either installing another harddrive or swapping it temporarily, do everything within an XP environment.
Trouble free.
Alright I've been reading and watching and asking for months now and if you've been reading anything i've posted you'll now realize that i'm a brave, dumb SOB!
So here goes:deep breath::, dont worry used listerine)
I would like to build my own ROM off of the Touch design and need some help. I've searched for the kitchen but only found(and downloaded) Faria's kitchen.
So anyone out there, i am looking for:
(1) A kitchen (preferabley one not too advanced for a noob but set so i'll learn from it)
(2) a rom dump containing the Touch basics for wizard
(3) and this might be the life saver... a tutorial. however limited or vague, just enough to get me pointed in the direction to a working rom.
(4) then finally input and comments(both helpful and hurting accepted) cause i'm not too proud to be told when i might be doing ReTaRdeD things.
I know I may bee passign my place in atemping this but that never stopped any of you.
ok got started on the research. got an ap called "htcrt" HTC rom tool... but it doesn't have the Wizard listed as a device. So is this what i need and if so wat do i use for the wizard similie?
you can use htc rom tool if you want. Im writing up a list of tools you might like to use. Give me a few mins then check your pm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309549&highlight=core+kitchen
This is the Core Pro kitchen - best I;ve ever used - it takes any ROM so you don't have to worry about whether or no the base ROM you want comes in packages!
Many Thanks
Thanks to noeonkoala and peter for the info and resources.
i came on to present bad news firstly. i dunno how, but i think i bricked one of my smartphones(a audiovox 5600/tornado). I was trying the HTC rom tool on it seeing i couldn't find the setup for wizard(not listed in the drop down). the initial load F'ed up somehow. i didn't get it i did everything like the walkthroughs said as far as unlocking but when i started loading a rom i messed up. THAT'S when i realized my dumbass was trying to load a wizard rom on a tornado so now it wont do anything but stare at me with the blacked out screen. any help on that one(point me to the nearest fix 'em up thread) would be appreciated.
now for better news....
Upon frying my tornado, decided to just do some theory/reasearch and deveolpment work. now before i start hack 'n' slashin at my wizard i need a few moments with it... that is to say i would like to know where to gat:
(1) a "working" Bluetooth FTP cab for wizard
(2) the "esmertec java" cab.
I just moded up to Jaguar's 3.1 cingular a couple days ago and it's beautiful.
!!!BIG props to nottoosmart on the ROM!!!
The java controller is amazing. It even runs alot of my sony ericsson w810's java games(yes before this i was using sony ericsson) in full screen. so i would love to be able to put that in my ROM( as long as it doesn't offend anyone)
using Core Kitchen...
Ok, ok, ok...
Neon, I must say that this setup you have is beautiful. i followed the tutorial and it was awesome. one problem though it gave me an error at the end when i went to move the nbf to the ruu folder so i haven't flashed( kinda scared after i trashed my tornado http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324099 ). But otherwise it ran as far as i can tell smoothly. Now here is my questions....
(1) Could the fact i named it "MiaMediaOS.nbf" instead of the regular "nk.nbf" be why i got the error and if so do i need to redo the process?
(2) after completing the whole process i realized that i didn't edit anything so where do i start to do so.
If you're worried i'm gonna mess up that's cool, but i'm kinda backwards that way in that i learn by doing the part i want first then encorperating it into what i need to do.
The nbf only needs to be name nk.nbf when you go to flash it with the RUU. If the error you got was when you were turning the packages into an .nb file then it could be you overfilled the ROM.
Oooooooohhhhhh.... You can do that?
zeen,
i gotcha. Idoubt i did that but it's nice to know it's possible. Ok lemmie tell you why i decided to make this move even though so many talented people put all this stuff on here for me to enjoy.
I started out with Faria's real ROM (great improvement to my Factory 8125 ROM)...
Then i Loaded Loaded DoudleFour's ROM ( no offence but either i didn't like it or it did'nt like me), followed shortly By the Titanium ROM WM6Ti2 (beautiful ROM just too slow for me)...
I went with NBD's 8.3 and it was another fine achievement but then realized that the Jaguar was "lighter" henceforth faster (correct right? ) so that's where I'm at now. All that blabber to say this, I wanna make a WM6 ROM with the Following:
-Office 2007
-WM5torage
-Total Commander
-BT_FTP
-HTC X-Button 1.51
-8 buttons command manager
(flighttmode,BTH,IR,Sound,Phone,WIFI,ActiveSYNC,
and if possible put the BTH FTP in as well)
-Adobe Reader LE
-A2DP Profile
-FWUPDATE
-HTC Home (i was hoping that with it already installed it run quicker)
-Windows Media Player
-MS VoiceCommand 1.6
-Camera 3.0
-SqlCeMobile
-VoIP
-Windows Live
-HTC Jeodek Java/Esmertec Java ( think there the same,not sure)
**TWEAKS**
-Lunar Calendar
-Time Sync Tab
-Date - Single Line
-Enable 802.11g
-Error Reporting Disabled
-Security Warning Disabled
-Cleartype in Landscape
-Ring Volume Increase
-Enabled Clock on all applications
-Make WM6 ask where to install application
-Prompt before over writing installation
-Enabled SD BatteryFix
-Show "Busy" Status in Calendar view
-Show calendar event text in "Week View"
-Enabled Edge Icon
-Enabled Caps notifier
-Show tomorrow's appointments on Today Screen
-Transcriber
...Basically a simple system that will look beautiful, run smooth and provide the essentials... a moded out Jaguar if you will . Notice i didn't list the default games... i never use 'em, most people don't. I been doing some looking into it and the Java App in the list runs alot of the Java programs and games from alot of different phones. right now I'm using MSDict Dictionary(java), Dr.Sudoku(java), Tetris(java), Worms Forts(java) and a few back of the woods type stuff from sony ericsson's java development forums.
One option you may want to look at is to go find a custom rom that is already built and has everything (or most everything) that you want in your rom (or go find a good base Vanilla rom and start from there). You can then pull that rom apart (if you are using Core Kitchen or newer HyperCore Kitchen, the tools are all there under Extract) and get the OEM, SYS, and ROM folder. Then you can move that to your kitchen area and push and poke, add and remove to your hearts content to create your own personal spiced dish. To be honest (IMO) a lot of the newer roms around here pretty much are nothing but doing just that. Very few of the roms change much in the way of how things actually work, registry settings, etc, but are just reheated versions of other roms.
So with that said, if you do create a new rom, and decide to release it, make sure you give proper credit where the credit is due...
BTW: Be aware though that the latest Faria rom (based on 318) and the NBD series are not as easy to pull apart. Faria lumps everything in one directory (as I recall), and Zoki removes the .rgu files from his rom (or he used to). So with those, you will have to do work to use them as a base.
Oh, one other comment... You could also just grab the consolidated kitchen and work from there. It has packages for about everything you listed already. If you can't find the Esmertec Java Manager package, let me know as I have one.
good.
Thanx.
I took this afternoon to just rowse around the kitchen and make myself familiar to the setup, cause even if i don't go full blast on my first ROM i intend to build the B___H. i did realize there are alot of the program folders in the kitchen that i need and that somehow(not sure, just theory work) i can actually pull out the remaining neccessities from Jaguar 3.1. And trust Credit goes out to you guys everyday... dealing with a problem at work is one thing but the way you guys have fun cooking roms and listening to gripers off the clock!!! my hat's off to you fellas (no but kiss intended).
And yeah if you would be so kind i would love the java program link.
Oh, To Be Young And Dumb Again... being naive is sooooo over rated
Wolfdragon said:
And yeah if you would be so kind i would love the java program link.
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Its attached. Enjoy...
hope nobody was expecting a fresh one...
ok,ok,ok...
let's just say i got bored. i tried and tried to figure out a way to create my own rom from scratch, but to no avail.
Sooooo instead i decided to let it sit for now and just get the rom i wanted built using the gifts here. So what did i do? simple first lemmie say Mattk_R fine job on the kitchen and rom sets couldn't have done it without ya .
So obviously based on that you know now i used the "Consolidated Kitchen". It is extremly user friendly and if you know your basics ( Many thanks to Peter Petrelli,Faria and entry level teachings from Mfrazzz & NeonKoala ) the kitchen is a breeze.
Now pay attention noobies!!! (mocking my own ignorance )
If you want a good ROM with very little done to it there are toms including some stock roms stripped to the bone. However if you need a really good "vanilla" ROM, here are a few threads to check out:
Consolidated Kitchen Central - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144. To me the best vanilla with kitchen i've ever seen.
FINAL ROM WITH Pro Rom Kitchen - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406
HyperCore Kitchen - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309549. Be careful with this one 'cause if you don't follow to the L E T T E R you might get stuck in tri color mode(boot screen) and need this thread "Tales from a brick and back--Newbies suggested reading".
Thats what i did...
I tried to build my own rom from strach too, but i dont think i can get it...or maybe if i just try and flash about 100 times i might get it...but i dont have patience for that...LOL
So, I used WhiteRat rom (thanks whiterat), ripped it apart using core kitchen (thanks anichillus), then deleted the packages that i dont like, and added my own packages that i have been collecting...
It seems to work now, i really want to try to out for a few weeks to see how i like it, but i just cant control my urge to cook one more rom with different packages...LOL
PS: I have tried many kitchens, i think core is the best for a newbie like me...been trying hypercore for a while now, it can be little more complicated than core...
Cab file?
Mfrazz do u have a cab file for the esmertec java?
Kenzeru said:
Mfrazz do u have a cab file for the esmertec java?
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Sorry, I do not. BTW:the package I posted is the April version, and it is still working (the June version timebombed a few days ago on Sept 1).
sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
So, if i understand you correct your plan is to create a wm6 rom for the magician, right? This would be really cool...
P.S.
kingt0t said:
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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i think you mean "guys" when you say "gays"
good luck with your project!
Kingt0t, what you want to do ain't something that hasn't been thought before...yes, you can do a WM6 for magician (hell, you can invent a new OS if you wish...lol) The thing is...time.
There's no drivers for the magician hardware built inside any WM6 ROM...(well, not entirely true - there's probable a few WM 5/6 ROMs which might have a few drivers for our hardware - but not all that are required so to make a workable magician ROM).
You probably would need to create drivers for all missing/required magician hardware...oh and above all...you probably would need to create a special/new bootloader because it seems to me that since WM5, the bootloader has changed it's way of loading the Windows Mobile OSes... (They use what is now called IPL/SPL...)
I'm not trying to discourage you...it's just that we (xda community) have heard about so many people with the same thoughts, giving up after realizing the enormous amount of work that would be required so to build a working wm6 magician ROM
Anyway, if you're really into it, then start by studying what hardware the magician has and how it works...
I can give you a few ideias right now:
- The CPU (PXA272) uses what is called a strataflash (It is glued to the cpu), which i believe there's not many models with this concept(if any). Most of them uses what is called DOC (Disk On Chip).
(if this ain't true, please someone correct me if i'm wrong)
- IDK if there's a driver for this CPU model in any other PPC with WM5/WM6...
- You will probably need to disassemble alot of dlls / .sys / Etc, so to figure out the functions names; what do they do; how do they interact with the rest of the OS...etc...
- Last but not the least, you would need to strip out alot of stuff since the magician only has 64Mb ROM or you could study how HARET (for linux) works and how it allows us to boot a SD Card partition image...
oh well...start posting away if you need help...for shure some gurus in here will start dropping you ideias, concepts, tests that were already made...
Best Regards,
Keeper
P.S: honestely, if someday microsoft decides to release the source code for WM2003 (like they did for win9x and windows 2000), then maybe, just maybe, we will be able to compile a modified version with some parts of the WM 5/6/xxx...
Maybe this is a good start, at least for WM5?
Ubiquio 401 has the same PXA272 CPU and 64MB ROM as the Magician, but it comes with WM5. Perhaps the IPL/SPL and CPU drivers that come with the FW will make less work for some smart person to make a custom Magician ROM.
Here is the Ubiquio 401 ROM, maybe somebody can extract some useful stuff from it:
ubiquio-401-v1.12.26.rar
I think it's also the same as the Gigabyte g-Smart i. g-Smart i uses WM5 AKU2. I don't know which AKU the Ubiquio uses.
Gnat,
There's one big issue in all this... When someone wants to seriously mess around with an operating system and it's "BIOS" (aka booloader) having direct access to the hardware is a must. Since we don't know the JTAG test point pins for the magician and knowing that no one is willing to trash their magician so that we can find out where they are located on the magician's PCB, (which would allow us to test various bootloaders + roms, without the risk of loosing our magicians), i doubt that anyone in here is willing to do blind tests with different model ROMs / Cooked roms, without some sort of backup like this one.
Check the last pages of this thread so to see what i'm talking about...(hell, check all this thread so to see what can happen when you flash something and there's a problem with it or along the installation of it...) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319354
So, if you're willing to do this ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WallabyJTAG )...or know someone that is, then we might be able to start doing something... :-|
If we had JTAG access, we could start using the Windows CE 5.0 Evaluation Kit which would allow us to communicate directly to the hardware via JTAG and test cooked bootloaders and ROMs. (check this link for more info: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa447041.aspx )
Keeper
hope this dream come true....WM6 or just WM5 for IMATE JAM
kingt0t said:
sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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if you do this, many will make a donation for your hard work...a NEW WM5 or WM6 ROM FOR the MAGICIAN.
Wow, that's a lot of work to find JTAG points. I have even more respect for people like Helmi if he had to find JTAG points for every device he has made a WM5 and WM6 for!
I don't think I will be finding the JTAG points on my Magician - I don't want to kill it! However, if anyone has a dead, fried or water damaged Magician, I will gladly pull the BGA off and trace the JTAG points.
If the JTAG points have a specific "signature" when viewed on an oscilloscope, I would be happy to trace them that way since I do have a 100MHz DSO available.
i hope too, this dream to ours magician
Oh btw...the taxist russian guy which released the 2.01~3TX rom did NOT made a WM6 for the magician - He simply opened up a magician ROM, changed a few icons, sounds, apps and packed it again...the Operating system still is WM2003se.
if you guys want to try and mod your own roms, use the following tools: alpinenbfdecode.pl, splitrom.pl and dumprom. They are available at the itsme website. ( http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/ )
Anyway, check this thread...there's a small script on how to re-create the XIP structure: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=3924&st=1020#entry744997
Once again, this ain't gonna change your OS (there's no WM5/6 IPL/SPL for the magician) - it will only allow you to mod a few things... :-(
Keeper
Zoneaone
It very fantastic for your effort. thanks.
are you still there kingT0T?
ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right
okey kingt0t...so what you want to do is something like taxist did...a modded ROM with a WM2k3 kernel core...
Well, one thing that i would suggest that you could start doing, would be a new bluetooth stack based on the WM 2k5/2k6 one (widcomm, i think)...
Anyway, idk russian and has so, i don't understand much of what is said on that link, but what i did understand is that taxist found a way of modifying the programs in a way that he could insert them has XIP (eXecution In Place), without breaking the expected original execution addresses...the thing is: he never revealed how he has done it...
There's a few guys in there that are trying to do what he has done by using the three tools that i've posted previously, but idk if they did acomplished the "XIP chain ROM address redirectioning"...
Regards,
Keeper
kingt0t said:
ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
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First prioduce a WM5.0 ROM instead of talking!
Yés kingtot wm6 4 Magician it is not a dream,it is a mirage...
kingt0t said:
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right
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I'm not sure I understand. You want a WM2003SE that only looks like WM5/WM6? But then it can't run WM5/WM6-specific apps... what purpose is that? I hardly see the point. If that's what you want, it already exists and besides, you can just use Wisbar or something similar and make a theme.
WM2003SuperSe must run wm5 apps. it's main task !!!!
still dream or stop
what's going on?
wm6 again became dream
hi, peeps.
Im having a play with some bits and pieces and think I get it. Wondered if a kind Chef would mind taking me under thier wing and giving me a few bits to play with eg partially created roms, ones that didnt work, ones that did, a couple of different roms and then get me to try and merge them etc.
Want to extract some existiing roms so I can learn how the bits all work. Yes I have read the tuts and guides. But I fancy having a foster chef help me get up to speed.
Soz if this is against the rules, I just fancy trying to be an apprentice first and learn from different roms what worked and what didnt, and more importantly, why. Also want to learn about these tweaks people make to the dlls etc.
that mentor would be the wiki.
the_passenger said:
that mentor would be the wiki.
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here here .
SlyTuk said:
hi, peeps.
Im having a play with some bits and pieces and think I get it. Wondered if a kind Chef would mind taking me under thier wing and giving me a few bits to play with eg partially created roms, ones that didnt work, ones that did, a couple of different roms and then get me to try and merge them etc.
Want to extract some existiing roms so I can learn how the bits all work. Yes I have read the tuts and guides. But I fancy having a foster chef help me get up to speed.
Soz if this is against the rules, I just fancy trying to be an apprentice first and learn from different roms what worked and what didnt, and more importantly, why. Also want to learn about these tweaks people make to the dlls etc.
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I b4 E except after C.... sorry, had to do it
added some urls
Im no mentor as I am strugling myself on getting first release stable, but I can provide whit some delicious urlz;
Alex's v5 Cooking Kits - last updated 2008-02-26
Cooking Guides for the Ultimate Noobs- Screencasts
Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial
How to cook a ROM
OEM building tutorial
True PagePool Hack Tutorial
Diamond Apz & OEM
How to dump a ROM
How to reconstruct ROM
The Ultimate Radio Thread
All Extracted HTC Apps (cab & oem included)
Universal WM6 ROM Kitchen
XDA PagePool Patcher v1.4 for ALL Kaiser Rom Files (and Touch dual)
The NIKI / NEON Radio that Works w/ 1.65.xx.xx based ROM's 1.58.25.17
P1Taters 4share
Duttys 4 share
Ahmadashar stuff
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
L26_Kaiser Diamond (Build 19588.1.1.4, full port!) Chefs friendly version!
Remove Clear Storage Icon in Settings <-- Good example of how to remove stock app.
Also search for DrJ video tutorials on kitchen and cooking. They are guud but didnt find the url. Got them stored on my laptop. // Edit: added to post
Hopefully some of this makes you going
raiisak said:
Im no mentor as I am strugling myself on getting first release stable, but I can provide whit some delicious urlz;
Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial
How to cook a ROM
OEM building tutorial
True PagePool Hack Tutorial
Diamond Apz & OEM
How to dump a ROM
How to reconstruct ROM
The NIKI / NEON Radio that Works w/ 1.65.xx.xx based ROM's 1.58.25.17
P1Taters 4share
Duttys 4 share
Ahmadashar stuff
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
L26_Kaiser Diamond (Build 19588.1.1.4, full port!) Chefs friendly version!
Also search for DrJ video tutorials on kitchen and cooking. They are guud but didnt find the url. Got them stored on my laptop.
Hopefully some of this makes you going
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Thanks raiisak, Its very refreshing to see someone who goes that bit further. I had seen some of those, but there are a few new links I hadnt come accross before.
Just bit the bullet and flashed my first rom It aint grear, but at least it works! Not getting the performance of Leo though, even though I used his core v4. Must try and see why.
To the "read the wiki" bregade, I confirm I had before I wrote this thread. Reason I asked for a mentor, is that is how I approach my work. For my employer, I have mentors, and I mentor others. Collaboration was what I thought forums and communities were all about - perhaps I was mistaken.
Once again, thank you to raiisak. No doubt Ill be in contact to see how you get on, as well as trying to learn with you if I can keep up
I'm not skilled as the elite, but I know how to cook my own roms. Here are some tips.
Watch all these videos. Then copy the videos.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372469
Start with this kit by Alex. Thats how I started.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Alex's Cooking Kits
After playing around with all these tools, download the kaiser 3.28 rom and strip out the bloatware. This is where the skills come in knowing all the reg keys belonging to what program and what files link to the program. These are all good tips for a good start. I wish you luck.
SlyTuk said:
Thanks raiisak, Its very refreshing to see someone who goes that bit further. I had seen some of those, but there are a few new links I hadnt come accross before.
Just bit the bullet and flashed my first rom It aint grear, but at least it works! Not getting the performance of Leo though, even though I used his core v4. Must try and see why.
To the "read the wiki" bregade, I confirm I had before I wrote this thread. Reason I asked for a mentor, is that is how I approach my work. For my employer, I have mentors, and I mentor others. Collaboration was what I thought forums and communities were all about - perhaps I was mistaken.
Once again, thank you to raiisak. No doubt Ill be in contact to see how you get on, as well as trying to learn with you if I can keep up
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Well I am glad it helped you a bit on the way, and I fully understand why you search a mentor. All the info on cooking are great untill you reach more advanced areas best explained by chefs who knows the deal or others who are contributing and developing.
I have a couple more for you:
Universal WM6 ROM Kitchen
XDA PagePool Patcher v1.4 for ALL Kaiser Rom Files (and Touch dual)
Others string of intrest is:
how to edit a .rgu
how to create a oem
how the build a package
Remeber L26 and other great chef`s rgu`s are heavy modified. Theyre roms are stripped and customized over and over. We deadly need to start fresh, learning the kitchen, again and again its stucked in mind and fingers. Then move on and add oure own packages editing those oem and flash, reflash and flash some more. Reading up on forum while you are cooking is a great thing as its wery time consuming. Doing it basic adding one by one is a great learning curve and great for bugtesting.
Lucky me I am under a great chefs wing and will be happy to provide/pass on some basic knowledge about cooking if you gets stuck youre first week
Just shout out or pm me and ill do my best.
thomassster said:
I'm not skilled as the elite, but I know how to cook my own roms. Here are some tips.
Watch all these videos. Then copy the videos.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372469
Start with this kit by Alex. Thats how I started.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Alex's Cooking Kits
After playing around with all these tools, download the kaiser 3.28 rom and strip out the bloatware. This is where the skills come in knowing all the reg keys belonging to what program and what files link to the program. These are all good tips for a good start. I wish you luck.
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Screencast is the vids of dr.j i was talking about. Legend! Good find, I added em to my post aswell as I planning to add everything I find usefull to it as I ride
raiisak said:
Screencast is the vids of dr.j i was talking about. Legend! Good find, I added em to my post aswell as I planning to add everything I find usefull to it as I ride
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WOW! Thanks dude...
That stock tool removal will be my next step.
My first cooked rom still hasnt died yet - I just bunged anyold crap in to see how it would look, and if it would work. The fact it even booted amazed me - and there are even some bits I like in there. - for example there are 2 start menus, one normal WM version, the other like a Desktop. Id never seen that before - Id always wanted to clean out a rom, then put some of my most used apps - Opera, RSS, PIE a couple of games or something. Now I might "play" more and think more outside the box... Dunno yet !
Edit: - when I say 2 Start menus, I mean at the same time, depending on where you click on, icon for detailed version, word for simple version.
Fanx again matey
SlyTuk said:
WOW! Thanks dude...
That stock tool removal will be my next step.
My first cooked rom still hasnt died yet - I just bunged anyold crap in to see how it would look, and if it would work. The fact it even booted amazed me - and there are even some bits I like in there. - for example there are 2 start menus, one normal WM version, the other like a Desktop. Id never seen that before - Id always wanted to clean out a rom, then put some of my most used apps - Opera, RSS, PIE a couple of games or something. Now I might "play" more and think more outside the box... Dunno yet !
Edit: - when I say 2 Start menus, I mean at the same time, depending on where you click on, icon for detailed version, word for simple version.
Fanx again matey
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Also if you going to do youre own stuff I recomend WinCE CAB Manager, unfort. its not free. But its a wery wery nice cab tool. I use it all the time to make my own tweaks as I flash faster than flash gordon himself and cant be arsed hack the reg manualy everythims. You can build a house in there, im sure of it. Anyways, you should check it out.
SlyTuk said:
WOW! Thanks dude...
That stock tool removal will be my next step.
My first cooked rom still hasnt died yet - I just bunged anyold crap in to see how it would look, and if it would work. The fact it even booted amazed me - and there are even some bits I like in there. - for example there are 2 start menus, one normal WM version, the other like a Desktop. Id never seen that before - Id always wanted to clean out a rom, then put some of my most used apps - Opera, RSS, PIE a couple of games or something. Now I might "play" more and think more outside the box... Dunno yet !
Edit: - when I say 2 Start menus, I mean at the same time, depending on where you click on, icon for detailed version, word for simple version.
Fanx again matey
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Hi
It is good to see a determined fellas that try to cook. I'm no cook and merely a average user... but if i'm not mistaken, the two start menu you talking about might be coming from qmenu (the one that look like desktop.. by desktop i assume you mean windows desktop and it is a cascading start menu). maybe the base you use already have it installed.
SlyTuk said:
Thanks raiisak, Its very refreshing to see someone who goes that bit further. I had seen some of those, but there are a few new links I hadnt come accross before.
Just bit the bullet and flashed my first rom It aint grear, but at least it works! Not getting the performance of Leo though, even though I used his core v4. Must try and see why.
To the "read the wiki" bregade, I confirm I had before I wrote this thread. Reason I asked for a mentor, is that is how I approach my work. For my employer, I have mentors, and I mentor others. Collaboration was what I thought forums and communities were all about - perhaps I was mistaken.
Once again, thank you to raiisak. No doubt Ill be in contact to see how you get on, as well as trying to learn with you if I can keep up
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well u may be my next mentor...
can you put links to post #1???
I'm sure if this will be nice summary in the end
thx
[ROM] [WWE] [Kaiser/Tilt] [WM 6.5.3 23614] ARIADNA v207 + LZX [ 101Mb + Chome + Greatbal Shadow Neo Skin] [colours and icons modified]
Proudly I can announce my new Ariadna ROM version for Kaiser and also for Tilt. As I told once, my ROMs are not the best. In fact, they don’t improve anything. Simply, they have the basics that I need for my usual life - there are some other specialized apps that I don't cook here. But even if those ROM’s are not good, even if they lack in lots of things, I cooked them carefully and with love.
It's based on build 23614 - this is the WM6.5.3 LG branch but it seems to work well on our Kaisers. I tested it during more than 10 days and finally today is the best moment to launch it to the World. Tilt version is not tested but the only change is in the keyboard mapping. Maybe I should change anything on the camera apps/settings.
As most of you know, I have no experience in programming or developing - my specialities are in other areas like planning, design, landscape, and environmental law. But lots of people helped me to dive into this kind of drug which is Windows Mobile and all its capabilities and I finally could cook three good ROMs.
What's inside:
No games, no Live, no Transcriber, no Welcome Center, no MS Tag, no OneNote, no Skybox neither SkyMarket.
You'll find some Office appas such as MS Office and Adobe Reader; also, MyNote, iContact and some other minor apps.
There is also the new beta of TotalCommander, compatible to the bottom bar of WM 6.5.x
And it works well with Showcase. and with the 2G patched version of the Mega phone.
25984 free kB on Slot 0
About 122 Mb on Storage, 103 free; abut 101 Mb on RAM, more than 56 free.
See the images to read the list of everything installed and see the screens.
No important issues found. Only, you must configure the hard button mappings in some cases, using the stylus and going to Settings/Personal/Buttons, because in some devices the map is missing and the device freezes when pushing on one button. And if the device is locked, you can't answer using the hard buttons, but I did not try to correct the default registry for this.
I developed it during my nights, and there are about 120 versions of this one till it booted and was shown in the way I wanted. BUT what I finally did was only choosing the correct files, editing some .provxml's and initflashfiles.dat and click on the "Cook It" button on Oskitchen.
There are no Cinderella and Princess versions because, like Jeckyll and Hyde, every girl is simultaneously a Cinderella and a Princess. And thus, this ROM takes the name of my daughter Ariadna. And her image is beside the flags of my 2 beloved countries: Catalonia and Occitania, both under foreign domination now.
Hope you enjoy it. Refer to "About Ariadna ROM" for credits to all known people in this ROM and DONATE to them if you fell it useful. Visit also www.suportalessandra.com
Support and fixes for this ROM will be limited as I have no time and no experience. But I thnk you won't need it: it's easy to use.
There won't be new versions till an important build will appear. Last version was a 23016 cooked last august.
Please read carefully the sickies about "how to flash" and the wiki.
Kaiser version: http://www.adrive.com/public/e14388ff6dff3736eb0cc67ad9db1c202bb781b5e3e6e8a56b3acf12d4a97d6d.html
Tilt version: http://www.adrive.com/public/9b75e6dd4bf68594d35ecde8cdf2965c2a4b995b9584bf042594a53b9a56a7c8.html
Links expire on January 29, 2010. If there's somebody interested later, please PM me to upgrade the links.
Thanks for sharing
Like the introduction, a bit of humanity! Will try it out this weekend. Thanks again.
DM
Hi,
You say that your ROM is VOIP enabled. Can you explain what you mean by that?
Welcome new chef.... Love the blue theme....looks awesome!
Mature response and more power to you. Good luck with the project!
witschey said:
Hi,
You say that your ROM is VOIP enabled. Can you explain what you mean by that?
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I (only) mean lots of ROMs are cooked without VoIP files, and then it's more difficult to reinstall them. In this one, I did not discard VoIP files.
xx------xx said:
I wouldnt give your roms the time of day since of how you came about yourself.Maybe you will think before you speak the next time.
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Well, if you are looking for an innovative, revolutionary ROM for Kaiser, then you're true. Mine is not for you.
WM was made by MS guys (and girls). Builds were searched, found and downloaded, and ported, by other people, not me. Hacks like 101 Mb RAM were developed by other people, not me. Fixes were made by other people, not me. And the kitchen is made by other people, not me. So that yeah it's possible nothing is different in my ROM.
My only responsibility is having spent many hours and days during the last year searching and downloading "how-to's", wiki pages, registry explanations, and lots of CABs with fixes, utilities, tricks. My only responsibility is having mixed them in the way I found, during last year, they work better "for me". Some ones ported from a device or developed by one person; some others developed by another person. Some are older versions which I prefer to the new ones.
Today I added a cheese to my ravioli. But that kind of cheese and that ravioli were made by other people, not me. The only I did is take "that" cheese and not another one, and buy those ravioli and not other ones.
Of course, speaking about me thus is the most sincere way. I'm not a lyer, and I can't tell "this is the best ROM, developed entirely by me" 'cause I only decided which ingredients I put, but credits are, must be, to the persons who searched, ported, developed, hacked, built and shared with us.
About the names history, everyone gives a name to the things, and place an identificative image. I like to know why a ROM is called as it's called. And the circumstances are what they are, so I told thus.
That's a nice and functional ROM which needs improvements, but it works well day to day, that's what I need and what I can share till now. I'm trying to improve it testing other builds and putting/throwing some utilities or modifying the versions (i.e. Mega, Opal or Jade ported phone?) to my taste. I try to modify some PNGs to have a better view (for me). And flashing again and again (and getting stuck in bootloader, also) to improve this ROM.
But nothing if you don't want to test it. You'll find others better than this one, of course. Using less space and having better graphics/sounds. I don't force you to flash this one.
afn691 said:
Well, if you are looking for an innovative, revolutionary ROM for Kaiser, then you're true. Mine is not for you.
WM was made by MS guys (and girls). Builds were searched, found and downloaded, and ported, by other people, not me. Hacks like 101 Mb RAM were developed by other people, not me. Fixes were made by other people, not me. And the kitchen is made by other people, not me. So that yeah it's possible nothing is different in my ROM.
My only responsibility is having spent many hours and days during the last year searching and downloading "how-to's", wiki pages, registry explanations, and lots of CABs with fixes, utilities, tricks. My only responsibility is having mixed them in the way I found, during last year, they work better "for me". Some ones ported from a device or developed by one person; some others developed by another person. Some are older versions which I prefer to the new ones.
Today I added a cheese to my ravioli. But that kind of cheese and that ravioli were made by other people, not me. The only I did is take "that" cheese and not another one, and buy those ravioli and not other ones.
Of course, speaking about me thus is the most sincere way. I'm not a lyer, and I can't tell "this is the best ROM, developed entirely by me" 'cause I only decided which ingredients I put, but credits are, must be, to the persons who searched, ported, developed, hacked, built and shared with us.
About the names history, everyone gives a name to the things, and place an identificative image. I like to know why a ROM is called as it's called. And the circumstances are what they are, so I told thus.
That's a nice and functional ROM which needs improvements, but it works well day to day, that's what I need and what I can share till now. I'm trying to improve it testing other builds and putting/throwing some utilities or modifying the versions (i.e. Mega, Opal or Jade ported phone?) to my taste. I try to modify some PNGs to have a better view (for me). And flashing again and again (and getting stuck in bootloader, also) to improve this ROM.
But nothing if you don't want to test it. You'll find others better than this one, of course. Using less space and having better graphics/sounds. I don't force you to flash this one.
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Mature response and more power to you. Good luck with the project!
New versions posted on first post. Important improvements !
congrats on your first release
twopumpchump said:
congrats on your first release
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Hi Shane, it's not the first. It's the THIRD !! I began last august with builds 23009 and 23016 but I wanted to solve some things with initflashfiles.dat and some others, so that the version could be considered a good tool.
Later I burnt my computer, and with the new one I had several problems using OsKitchen (I suppose something was corrupted in the hard disk I rescued from the old PC).
Then, you know, I tried lots and lots of times to cook and flash with bad results.
This ROM is also not the first for this build, but I was "refining" it till I considered it's capable to be used by other people without getting angry with me .
Truely, I learned lots of things from your posts, cooking classes, etc.
(you'll read your name in the credits inside the ROM if you try to test it)
Thanks !!!
Nice job bro
thanks for your so HARD working ,I will flash this and give my feedback
thanks again and keeping on you great work
wow new chef in kaiser
will try this rom... and report back
thx
keep update
Thanxs
downloading...
w4551472 said:
Nice job bro
thanks for your so HARD working ,I will flash this and give my feedback
thanks again and keeping on you great work
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I only edited initflashfiles.exe and shellres.dll, and changed some colours in some PNG's or some font styles.
For the rest of the features, hard work is from lots of other people, all they working here at xda-dev's for everybody.
Glad if you give feedback. I tested during 10 days before posting it as public, so that I could be sure it works. But trere's always a bad surprise to fix.
Thank you