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JavoEdge Skin case for XDA II/MDA II/M1000...

Hi all,
I've been to the Javo site and am VERY interested in one of their cases... The thing is, I'm a bit concerned as to whether the case will fit properly.
They say on their site that the case fits the following devices:
XDA II/Qtek 2020/MDA II and iMate Phone edition.
I know the SPV M1000 has different button designs to that of the XDA II etc, but I've done some research on the MDA II and from what I can tell it looks almost identical to the SPV M1000 except for black plastic around the button areas.
Could someone please confirm this fact as I've been in touch with JavoEdge about this but they haven't got/had an MDA II in for them to be able to check this.
Seems a bit silly to me that they would say the MDA II fits their case if its design is different to that of the XDA II!!!

GPS, WiFI, BT and Camera All in One Phone

:!: Sorry for the shameless attempt to get you here with a dreamy subject but it's relevant to the topic - honestly. :!:
I'm after a PDAPhone with built in everything. But looks so far like I'm going to have to compromise and get an external GPS receiver, however was just hoping someone might have a little gem that I couldn't find anywhere else in the forums.
I have owned and loved the O2 XDA range ever since my first XDA years ago and have since lugged around an XDAII. I damaged my II recently and have a nice cheque for £550 burning a hole in my pocket courtesy of the insurance company. This means that for the first time ever I don't need to go to a subsidised model. My initial thought was that I'd stump up a few extra quid and get a JamJar :lol: from expansys but now I'm a bit more mature I decided to check out the options first.
So far I've found (Ignoring Naming Variations):
Prices quoted are from expansys - they could be cheaper elsewhere. Pls let me know if you find any (UK Only though)
:arrow: iPAQ hw6515 - Looks a bit crap, small screen and no wi-fi listed but DOES have GPS & 1.3Mp Cam - Anyone know of any Square Aware issues with programs?
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=120563
:idea: £439.95
:arrow: i-mate JAM - Small and sexy but no Wi-Fi and no GPS but would stop people asking if I've got a brick taped to my head. + 1.3Mp, COuld afford external GPS with this one.
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=I-MATE_JAM
:idea: £359.95
:arrow:Qtek 9090- Has everything But GPS but would leave enough money for a BT GPS - No camera spec but I think it's 0.3Mp like the XDAIIs - Could be upgraded to WM5, My Mate has one and the Thumb Keyboard is easy to use whilst walking - If I use my head not my geekometer this is my favourite.
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=QTEK_9090
:idea: £414.95
:arrow: i-mate JASJAR - Dogs balls but still no GPS and not much more than the 9090 + v Expensive & Getting Bigger - 1.3Mp Cam I think. (I have no 3G service anywhere near me so that's not a bonus) I really like the 3.5mm Jack - Overall a severe number of geek points! NO CRADLE Still needs GPS Seperate, not sure how useable while walking the keyboard will be. I really want one.
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119353
:idea: £669.95
:arrow: i-mate K-JAM - WiFi, BT etc, Smaller and lighter than Universal, WM5, 1.3Mp. I like the keyboard. Maybe my new best choice. JUST leaves enough money to think about an external GPS. Thanks JamiJam
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125518
:idea: £504.95
My criteria to consider are as follows, argue with them and persuade me otherwise with reasons if you so wish:
Phone + PDA Essential (Tri Band+)
Camera - Prefer 1+Mp
BT - Must Have
Wi-Fi - Optional but Preferred a lot
3G - Not required
Keyboard - Like to Have (It's awkward using handwriting when travelling)
GPS - Very Nice to Have I Drive a lot and would like to use TT in the future.
OS - Not Bothered, these can be changed
I have 1 Month to decide before I burst and spray money all over the place so I'd really appreciate any comments you might have.
Don't go off on any obscure tangents though please, post them in a new topic and link to it if you wish.

Wizard...
(aka K-Jam, aka Qtek 9100)

Not sure when it will be out but Orange are going to release the Wizard and call it the SPV M600. If you can wait then you'll have it subsidised. :wink:

hmmmmm
Ok, so far the Wizard is my favourite now. I'd completely forgotten about that. What's the keyboard like though? I'm not too fussed about the size (the one on the XDA III is smaller and still useable)? It's more the key action I'm bothered about.
Does it have those rubbish 'rubbery' 'spectrum' style keys? It looks like it does.
I'm still yearning for a Universal cos none of my mates will have one but my head is still saying I don't need it and one of the others will do everything I want.

AFAIK HTC has some kind of arrangement with compaq - HTC will not make a phone with GPS as it competes with a model HTC makes for compaq that does have GPS or something like that (the hw6515 maybe ?)
I have a Blue Angel (O2 XDA IIs) and it does all of this.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=I-MATE_III
WM5 now available and working fine on it.
It has a keyboard too, it's those blister things (more like a ZX81 than a spectrum) but it is useable, although the keyboard layout is a bit ****e.
What with the newer models coming out you should be able to pick one up cheapish.
I run mine with a Globalsat Bt-338 Bluetooth GPS and Tomtom 5

oh, and FYI, this PDA holder from halfords holds the BA perfectly and can be mounted to your dash. It obscures no ports.
(The pic is upside down BTW)
http://www.halfords.com/opd_product_details.asp?id=16600&type=0&cat=397

The keyboard on the wizard is excellent, in my humble opinion!
It also snaps in and out in a way that makes you feel it won't break down easily.
Finally, it automatically turns the phone's display into landscape mode, which is very handy.

Wizard or BA
I have to say I'm still impressed with the Wizard. Just made a scale model out of card (how sad is that) and it's tiny!
I like the BA but if the keyboard doesn't let the Wizard down I think it'll be my PDA of choice. The one thing I really didn't like about the Jam was its lack of Wi-Fi and that's solved in the K-Jam.
I assume the screen's readable, I like to think that I'll have good eyesight for a couple of years yet so I don't think the size will be an issue.

iPaq HW6515
I have tried without success to get details of the built-in GPS. The one authoritative source to whom I spoke was scathing about its performance. So whatever you do choose, I do not recommend the iPaq.
On a separate note I saw my first Jasjar close up today. It is lighter than you might think, but heavier than is reasonable for prolonged use as a phone. A bluetooth earpiece was being used that included a display for caller ID. As a data device it is pretty impressive.
I too run a GlobalSat BT-338 GPS, in my case with Mapopolis.

if you are going GPS, make sure it is SIRFstar III chipset (the current latest-and-greatest), especially if you live in a city as they are really good at "urban canyon" reception.
I have seen new BT-338s on ebay for £65 "buy it now" recently

plus another thing to think about...
a seperate BT GPS unit has various advantages:
1) Battery
It won't drain your PPC battery when operating, except the charge needed to communicate via BT.
2) Upgrading
If a new improved GPS unit comes out and you have an onboard GPS unit, you are carrying useless baggage and can't sell the old one.
Also bear in mind there will likely be new features added to GPS units.
one example: digital compass. At the moment, if you stand still and rotate, a GPS unit has no clue which way you are facing until you move. A GPS does already transmit heading AFAIK - it works out which way you are facing by assiming you are looking in the direction of travel. Integration of a digital compass therefore would probably require no changes to the protocol. This does exist ( see http://www.xemics.com/internet/solutions/compass.jsp?productID=108 )
3) Switching.
BT GPS units work on laptopss too you know
4) Safety. I use my GPS for a sport called mountain boarding. Same kinda deal as downhill mountain biking, I trace a route I have done using GPS software. I ride with my XDA in a reinforced case with foam in, but find the GPS reception suffers, so I keep the BT GPS unit in my bag and the XDA in the case.
Seeing as the XDA is MUCH more valuable than the GPS this makes sense.
5) Reception versus viewing position.
Sometimes the position with best reception is not the same as the position you can see the screen of your PPC best.

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Good point.
Ok, more questions on the K-Jam
Camera: Says 1.3/2 Is this 1.3 with software to 'frig' it to 2?
Keyboard: Is the expansys keyboard silver ( http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125518 ) or black ( http://www.expansys.com/zoompic.asp?type=item&code=125518 )
Silver ones look plastic whereas black ones look rubbery. Which have you got JamiJam? Is it from Expansys?
Processor: 200Mhz? Is that right? Seems quite a drop. Do you have any problems with media playback? I remember my XDA I used to have a problem playing big avi files.
Ta Very Much

Camera is 1.3MP, and it is ****.
Yes, it's better than the Magician, but it's still pretty bad. I wouldn't buy the Wizard hoping to use the camera for anything useful. In my opinion this is the #1 point on which HTC is lacking. They've worked on everything else, now they need to start putting decent cameras in these devices.
I have the silver keyboard and I bought my Wizard in a store. I believe that if you order from expansys you'll get a silver one.
Processor is 200MHz (different CPU architecture) but it seems to be on par with the Magician in practice, maybe 10% slower. So yes, you should be able to watch full screen movies, once you find a bit-rate/resolution/format that works for you. Not sure which XDA you had, but I would expect similar ballpark performance.
Hope this helps.

Ta
The 'performance lacking' XDA was the original XDA I and I'll take your word for it that performance is ok. I don't use it for anything too hot and my XDA II never had a problem with films.
To be honest, every camera phone I've had from the XDA Range was ****ty quality (Very grainy) but I spend a fair bit of time on site collecting info on wagons and stuff for my job and it's always handy to be able to snap a quick video or pic of something. The only reason I want a higher res is so that when some tit with a Sony Ericson goes on about his 2Mp camera I don't loose too many 'top trumps' points. I never print the pics and my main contract doesn't support GPRS so I don't often send MMS. You'd be surprised how easily you can still get by with just plain old WAP.
Good news on the silver buttons. I prefer them. Has anyone bought one from Expansys who can verify?

Sweetness & Joy
Just thought I'd post my decision for those of you who like seing things through to a conclusion.
After much ponderation and constructing various cardboard models I have decided on the HTC Wizard, purchased from expansys (i-Mate K-Jam). There's a delay on delivery at the moment (3 Days!!!! I can't wait) but once it arrives I'll post back with my oppinions.
I've also heard that my mate is buying the JasJar so I'll be able to make a comparison and post it back.
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D'oh! Just a note not say the expansys delivery has been put back but they've dropped the price too.
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Just been looking at some larger photos of the buttons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/keyboard-flash.jpg
I take back my spectrum comments, they look pretty good.

Hurrah!
Ok! I've got my Wizard at last. I ended up buying the Qtek 9100 rather than the K-Jam. Looks like I'll miss out on Club i-Mate. :-(
Thought I'd post my views on the phone here just to give closure to anyone reading this thread.
The screen is very sharp. Everything obviously is smaller because the pixels are closer together but the overall effect is a very good screen. The guy in our office with really bad eyesight liked it and he's normally a miserable git when it comes to gadgets.
I take back my comments about the keyboard, it looks fantastic, the action is really great and you can use it to type replies to text messages on the move, which is something I've always struggled with before using the Transcriber. People are also really impressed when the screen rotates thru' to landscape.
I've used it for playing some music and although the speakers built in are tinny as you'd expect, the headphones are really good. I don't know if they'd be the same for the i-Mate but they fit comfortably in my ears and have a very good sound compared to the old XDA & XDA II headphones (Not that that would be hard)!
I miss having a cradle. It was nice to be able to display your phone on your desk while it was charging. Just using a USB cable makes it all feel a bit less sexy as an experience but then you can't have everything I suppose.
The coolest thing I found was the Stylus. It's about 50mm long when it first comes out of the phone. Then you give it a little pull and it extends to... hold on let me get a ruler... 85mm. It's not as comfy to use as the XDA/XDA II styli but since i haven't used it for writing much it doesn't matter. The keyboard is so easy to pull out and use that I've only really used the stylus to point at stuff so that my fingers don't get the screen dirty. The softkeys in WM 2005 also mean that you rarely need to touch the screen.
It's a bit chunkier than I expected but still not big. It's only marginally bigger than my girlfriends Nokia 6230 and compared to an older XDA model it feels like it's tiny!
Voice recognition button on the side works really well so far. I've got about 10 contacts programmed in and it seems to be picking them up ok, even in the car.
Overall, i'm yet to find much of a fault with it. I'll try to get some piccies of bits posted sometime next week.
Feel free to ask any questions.

JASJAR II
When the damn thing releases.....of course
I really wouldnt auction my spare kidney and buy it, and then suffer with a RAM deficit! My xda 2 currently running on wm5, has 128megs ram and 32megs rom....compared to 43megs ram & rom of jasjar........one word.......RIDICULOUS!
i cant believe seeing a 7MB RAM free on a device, and i dont ever want to see it! HTC/ IMATE/ Whoever claim they put in less RAM for extended battery life....bucket of crap! I really dont care for those couple extra hours that i'd probably get, and i dont mind carrying a spare battery or a charger wherever i go....
Its a handicap which is BIG! Besides this, the Jasjar is divinely irresistable, and i cant stop oggling at it :shock:
So, i guess i'll wait for a JJ II to come out with same form factor, and somemore ram which would make the device practical....
HTC do you hear me??????
San

weeel
:shock:
RAM isn't everything. I have been using the device for a day now (Non-stop), often running WMP10, Outlook, PIE etc also playing Tomb Raider. I haven't noticed any diference between this and my XDA II which had I think 64Mb and a 400 odd MHz processor. The odd app is a trifle slow to load up but nothing more major than that.
If the battery life sacrifice is true, then it's not for this little puppy. All this usage (with wi-fi on but not actually using a wi-fi network) and the battery didn't drop below 60% yesterday (Using lightly whilst at work and heavily in the evening. I even synced using bluetooth).
Memory has crept down to 1Mb program mem free at times but I assume windows is just doing its thing because this comes back up after a while and I don't notice any drop in performance.

Re: Hurrah!
eayuwna said:
I miss having a cradle. It was nice to be able to display your phone on your desk while it was charging. Just using a USB cable makes it all feel a bit less sexy as an experience but then you can't have everything I suppose.
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This site: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/5735.htm claims that this desktop charger/cradle is compatible with the K-Jam so if that's true then it should be OK for your QTek. 8)

Newbie help

Hi all,
I bought a cheapo 2nd hand XDAII to use as a satnav / MP3 / GPRS etc etc.
I have no experience of PDAs but they look like a good way to loose lots of time.
This site a has already tought me a few things i.e. what my XDAII really is ( Himalaya ).
I have several problems to overcome with it , and will no doubt be posting more queries over the next few days.
Firsly though, my unit is:-
Rom 1.72.00WWE , date 03/11/04
Radio 1.17.00
Model PH10B
It is an unlocked o2 UK unit that I have put a pay&go sim in. It is running Microsoft pocket PC V4.20.
Okay...the question..
My unit is running 'pocket PC'. What system is it capable of running? ( Windows Mobile 2005 or 6 ). What is recommended.
Also, based on the rom data above, does it need any flash upgrades ?
Sorry for my elementory questions, but I've to start somewhere

your device is running the last official rom for himalaya
namely wm2003
there are both wm5 and wm6 roms for it
but those are not official and can give issues
it's really up to you if you wanna upgrade or not
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Himalaya <-- hold just about any info you could want about the device

okay thanks.
From checking some of this forum I've concluded I need to do this memory mod ( from 14mb to 32mb ) if Im going to upgrade to WM6
I did try this earler but was unsuccessful ?. I got to the bit where I was supposed to unlock extrom but the icon didn't react... When I check my device information page the storage size is 14.57mb but the flash size is 32mb. So did it work or not ??
Next problem is I bought a car cradle off ebay clearly marked for an XDA II. When I browse the web for details I think its a "Chinese Northern Star". The general profile of the cradle fits my XDA II, but the interface connector doesn't seem to be the same. The cradle has two small stickers underneath it stating 'XDA II (NEW)' and '09A06'.
Can anyone advise if they XDA II units had different connectors ? My unit looks like the silver Himalaya ( like the wiki image...and also looks like the alpine )..not the grey image on this websites main page. Please advise as I'm in dispute with the seller on Ebay.
Thx

Don't worry how it look like an alpine. Mine to but it is still himalaya I have another himalaya in from Tmobile. It has black color arround the button. Both of them have the same size. If you bought craddle for XDA II it should be fit. Are you sure you bought himalaya cradle ?

yep I definately stated XDA II ( & IIs ) in the ebay add. Like I also stated, it has a sticker label on the bottom stating 'XDA II ( NEW)' ..
??? Why would the label specifically state '(NEW)' ???? It implies there is an older version doesn't it??

more likely that it's not an old second hand device

...sorry but I am not sure what you mean. Please explain
Here is a link to a snapshot I took. The top connector is my mains connector , the lower is the inside of the cradle :-
http://freespace.virgin.net/ian.jarvo/connector.jpg
The top connector appears larger but it is ~5mm closer to the lens. As you can see there are subtle differences.
I just hope someone can spot the small differences and identify what the lower connector actually is.
Plus on the other issue in this thread, I'd still like to know how I can tell if the 30mb upgrade worked on my XDAII

HTY vs. HTC??

Hi,
I was looking online for an unlocked HTC T4242 Iolite / Cruise 2009 phone and came across this link for a nearly exact copy
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTY-T4242-Windo...ones?hash=item5633d3c7c9&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
Check it out yourself...Google HTY Cell phones.
Any thoughts, experiences, etc? Stay away?
Thanks,
m0

well its running winmo 6.1 & tf2d.. I Would say for 240 american that is a pretty good price for what may be carbon copy..

malloy0 said:
Hi,
I was looking online for an unlocked HTC T4242 Iolite / Cruise 2009 phone and came across this link for a nearly exact copy
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTY-T4242-Windo...ones?hash=item5633d3c7c9&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
Check it out yourself...Google HTY Cell phones.
Any thoughts, experiences, etc? Stay away?
Thanks,
m0
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I have no experience with the imitation, but stay away from any copy
There is no better than the original HTC

orb3000 said:
I have no experience with the imitation, but stay away from any copy
There is no better than the original HTC
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You probably pay a lot of money for a plain brick when you buy this.
I would say stick to HTC. (also saw HTC Diamond clone on internet last week, it was not even running on Windows Mobile).

My 2 cents/opinions. maybe help buyers-beware
cons
+ Internal electronics is different. OE HTC roms r no good for the HTY. (so, who knows where to find rom support specially with 6.5 pop'n up all over the place)
+ came with a Plain Jane WM6.1 English. No TF2d, GPS app, etc.. even though advertised.. Basically you'll have to locate all the apps and troubleshoot to get them to work since the hardware is different.
+ Some optional apps were on the 2g micro sd. but they were in Chinese.
+ Touch Screen/ Digitizer is a little thin and fragile. Seems like its easily creased. Noticeable at an angle in bright light.
+ Strange thing, it comes with what looks like an OE HTC cruise 09 manual. Useless, doesn't apply to the HTY.. why did they bother.. also, came in a generic box.
+ Wifi is weak. 1 bar strenth where my wizard got 3 bars.
+ No Navigation scroll wheel on the HTY like the HTC has. You can spot the difference by the button size. the HTY has a smaller round button than the HTC.
+ GPS fix takes looooooggggg...
+ the hook where you can attach a wrist leash is plastic
+ Basically, don't even consider thinking your getting an HTC Iolite. These are 2 totally different devices even though they look the same.
pros
+ 624Mhz CPU. pretty quick.. snaps and responds promptly navigating through apps
+ came with 2 batteries, headset, case, car and ac power adapters, useless cd and htc manual (those things don't apply to the hty, again why bother and waste materials)
+ Housing is pretty sold. Really not bad quality. (minus the touch screen)..
+ Battery life is good
+ very compact. Doesn't make your pocket bulg
Personally for me, if i knew what i know now i probably would have gotten a like/new used Fuze. The fuze has issues but so does this HTY. It seems more logical to deal with the fuze that has way way way more features and xda dev support at about the same price as that ebay posting. not to mention the awesome vga screen.
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Update: Removed -> "recommend this phone". Learning that there is too much troubleshooting to get it to function they way it should function based on it's specs.

Update..
Internal GPS really sux.. basically useless.. can't get a fix or takes extremely long.. 20+ mins. totally totally impractical..
Horrible screen in sun light. Can't see the screen at all in the car when trying to use the NAVi...
Change'n my mind.. I would not recommend this phone if your intent was to purchase one with internal GPS...
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Update: Found the GPS fix. posted the info here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525336&page=10
Still, beware if your thinking of purchasing this thing.. your gunna spend your hard earned money on a brand new item only to have to modify it to get it to work.. hope these posts inform people.

Update on the digitizer
The touch screen/ digitizer doesn't crease easily as i mentioned earlier. I took the phone apart and found out that its just poor quality (IMO). maybe a bad batch, i don't know.. the digitizer still functions great as it should. it just has a few depressions that gives it a wavy look on the reflective edges. really only noticeable at an angle in bright light. not too much of a big deal, but thought people should be aware if they were thinking of getting one of these devices

ms9, you're funny, why get a ****ty phone for 240 USD when you can get a used Fuze for that...
Fuze has better EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

poetryrocksalot said:
ms9, you're funny, why get a ****ty phone for 240 USD when you can get a used Fuze for that...
Fuze has better EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yeah... i know.. didn't do my research.. was in a rush.. didn't even get my hands on a fuze until after i bought the thing.. the fuze is nice.. kicked myself for a min after i held it. whats done is done.. its do'en its job as a phone and gps 4 now..
btw.. i agree this phone is definately not worth 240. i wouldn't get one at that price either.. not going to say how much i found it for.. no need to encourage promote'n it..
hope'n people can learn from what i posted..

Well HTY vs. HTC update...
Like much of the feedback, I did not trust the HTY, so I bought a HTC Touch Cruise 2009 from selectgsm.com and hope, pray that they are reputiable (sp?) and it gets here next week.
Net step...sell my Fuze and my LG Incite to recoup the $450 USD and then wait for cmonex and olipro to work their hard-spl magic, then some great chefs to cook a super fast, stable wm6.5 rom.
Thanks to all and everyone for the advice.
Over and out...
m0

http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/top_10_chinese_rip_offs.php
same deals

malloy0 said:
Well HTY vs. HTC update...
Like much of the feedback, I did not trust the HTY, so I bought a HTC Touch Cruise 2009 from selectgsm.com and hope, pray that they are reputiable (sp?) and it gets here next week.
Net step...sell my Fuze and my LG Incite to recoup the $450 USD and then wait for cmonex and olipro to work their hard-spl magic, then some great chefs to cook a super fast, stable wm6.5 rom.
Thanks to all and everyone for the advice.
Over and out...
m0
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Why are you getting rid of Fuze?

Which Smartphone?

Hi Guys & Gals.
First, a thanks for the website. It's a good read, and I've got some useful info off it. Don't know enough in this field to contribute though.
I've got a generic "which phone" question for you all.
I currently have an Orange SPV C600 (HTC Tornado), upgraded to WM 6.1. I use it mostly for phone calls, e-book reading with Mobipocket (probably 95% of the time I actually use the thing for), and sat-nav using TomTom 5 and an external Holux GPSlim 236 (which I've had to re-solder the BT module, due to the dodgy batch of receivers).
The phone is now showing its age (I bought it 2nd hand almost 3.5 years ago). It won't always start TomTom (only about 20% of time will it start properly) , it'll randomly flatten itself overnight, hangs mysteriously etc.
I now want a newer phone. Money is tight though, so I can't justify spending large sums (e.g. >£80/$130) of money on a new phone, even on a contract (my mobile bill is typically £8 a month: £3 calls, £5 data).
I'm currently looking at...
SPV M700
SPV M3100 (Hermes?)
HTC TYTN II (Kaiser)
HTC Touch Diamond (1st version, only if going for silly money on ebay)
HTC Touch Pro (1st version, only if going for silly money on ebay)
Wish list...
GPS
3G
WiFi
Touch screen
Keyboard would be nice.
Better res than 240x320 would be nice
My thoughts on the list are...
M700
Can be quite expensive on ebay (can be cheap though). Fits all of the important stuff though. Not too old.
M3100
No GPS, but has keyboard. *Can* be bought fairly cheaply, because it's quite an old model now. I've borrowed an O2 XDA (which is AFAIK the Orange SPV M3000, which is a 3100 less the 3G and WiFi). Getting on a bit.
TYTN II
Has everything, but have read many bad reviews online about graphics performance (has this been fixed?) and battery life.
Allowing for the down sides, this (so far) is my favourite, in that it ticks all of the boxes.
I *think* I've even seen a video on Youtube of someone getting TouchFlo 3D working on it.
It's getting on a bit too, but Expansys still sell them new (oddly enough for more than a Touch Pro!)
Diamond
Gorgeous screen, No keyboard, no expansion, ticks all the other boxes. Main downside is the cost. Even a broken one went for £52 on ebay!
Touch Pro.
As Diamond, but including keyboard, got expansion, ticks all boxes. Even more expensive than Diamond.
Are there any other phones I should be looking at? Have I missed a point somewhere? Am I better of sticking with my ancient flaky phone and waiting for the Diamond II prices to push the Diamond prices down? I need help here!
Thanks.
Pete.

Welcome to forums
I think 1st you have to have clear what is your main use for a device, said that and taking your list, I would choose Touch Pro.
Also will depend on how much $ you want to spend
If you are looking for something much cheap include on your list Universal, it´s a great device!
Good luck,

if you already have an external gps you should get a wizard they are really cheep an pretty good. they are a lot more responsive than the specs would have you believe. also you can get a tytn II for pretty cheep these days and the battery life is really not that bad if the wizard had an internal gps and more ram i would pick it every time over the tytn II.

Hi.
Thanks for the feedback.
I'd discounted the Universal (SPV M5000), mainly for 2 reasons.
1) It's an old design (12 months older than the M3000, and about the same age as my current phone)
2) It's just too big. Even though it's got a good size screen, I need a pocket phone.
I'll be using the device mostly for reading e-books (it saves carrying around huge numbers of physical books!). I don't find the screen size of my current Tornado sized device a problem. The other thing I'll be using it for is sat-nav. Again, the screen size isn't an issue, because I mostly follow the voice navigation, not the screen. Finally, there's the normal phone stuff of voice calls and texts, occasional web browsing etc.
Ideally it'll be 3G. I'd really like it to have WiFi.
My budget is tight, about £80/$130
josefcrist: You've echoed my own thoughts. Do I keep my existing BT GPS receiver (which gets flaky when it's hot), and go for the Tytn, or do I spend a bit extra, and go for the Tytn II with built in GPS.
One thing that makes me nervous about the M3100 is the ease with which you can brick it. Upgrading my last phone was very easy, but the Hermes forums are full of people who've bricked their phones. I'm a constant fiddler, and if there's a chance of upgrading an OS, or cooking my own, I'll give it a go.
I've found that http://pdadb.net/ allows side-by-side comparisons of phones, so I can now compare my targets, and choose the most appropriate one (e.g. I now know there's been a change in processor from Tytn to Tytn II, both ARM based. The II has double the RAM and ROM.
This page compares my existing phone with the 3 main contenders in my list.
Does anyone here have a Tytn II? I've been using a Wizard (borrowed), and I find that even though the resolution's the same as my existing phone, the pixels have quite a gap between them, giving quite a pixellated appearance.
Many thanks,
Pete.