Confusion about ROM versions - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading

Hey,
Sorry for the stupid question, but I just can't find the info I'm looking for. I've checked the wiki and a lot of threads here but can't figure it out.
The wiki links to the FTP to show two ROMs I could download, but doesn't explain anything about them.
RUU_Prophet_2090724_20907106_020720_QtekWWE_Ship.exe
RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_QtekWWE_Ship.exe
Am I right to guess that the first one is a very old version and the second one is the latest? If the second one is the latest, is it not available at clubimate just because clubimate is out of date? Also, shayd linked to JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship.zip in a recent thread saying it's the latest official. If the ones in the wiki aren't official, what are they?
I'm currently running 2.13.9.23 on a G4 JAMin. This is what I put on from clubimate not long after I got the phone.
Also, I've looked at a few of the custom ROMs floating around here and they're interesting. However, I know that I don't know enough about this to just try upgrading to one, for fear of bricking my phone. Is there a recommended one, and would it void my warranty?
Thanks, and sorry again for the stupid questions.

As you probably know by now, the HTC prophet is sold (among others) by Qtek as S200 and by imate as Jamin. Hardware is identical so ROMS are compatible too. What you found on ftp are official ROMS by Qtek (ver 2.09 and ver 2.2).
Imate's latest version is 2.13, which is what you have installed at the moment.
Dopod's latest version is 2.15, while Qtek's latest version is 2.2. They're all official ROMS and will work on your device providing it's CID unlocked (search forum for CID unlocking). Just FYI, CID locking is used to prevent you from loading other carrier's ROMs.
Regarding customised ROMS, yes they're interesting but unfortunately they all have bugs.

Qtek's latest version 2.2
kta said:
As you probably know by now, the HTC prophet is sold (among others) by Qtek as S200 and by imate as Jamin. Hardware is identical so ROMS are compatible too. What you found on ftp are official ROMS by Qtek (ver 2.09 and ver 2.2).
Imate's latest version is 2.13, which is what you have installed at the moment.
Dopod's latest version is 2.15, while Qtek's latest version is 2.2. They're all official ROMS and will work on your device providing it's CID unlocked (search forum for CID unlocking). Just FYI, CID locking is used to prevent you from loading other carrier's ROMs.
Regarding customised ROMS, yes they're interesting but unfortunately they all have bugs.
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Thus meaning that, as I have an Imate JAMin, I could install Qtek's latest version 2.2 and it would be OK? Where do I find that??? Thanks in advance.

Thanks kta.
When i-mate's v2.13 is compared to the qtek v2.2, are those numbers relative to each other, or just arbitrary? I'm asking so that I can figure out if 2.2 is actually better than 2.13.
Also, am I right to assume that if my phone died while qtek's 2.2 rom was on there, my warranty would be void?
cheers,
James

aaasilva said:
Thus meaning that, as I have an Imate JAMin, I could install Qtek's latest version 2.2 and it would be OK? Where do I find that??? Thanks in advance.
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You will be OK if you update it with Qtek's 2.2. There is one on xda ftp here: ftp://xda:[email protected]_S200_2.20.7.34_2.47.21_2.20.7.114_WWE.zip.
To avoid the ROM update utility telling you "Wrong Country ID" or something like that, make sure you use a ROM Update Utility with No vendor Id (probably included in the zip file).

dkr said:
Thanks kta.
When i-mate's v2.13 is compared to the qtek v2.2, are those numbers relative to each other, or just arbitrary? I'm asking so that I can figure out if 2.2 is actually better than 2.13.
Also, am I right to assume that if my phone died while qtek's 2.2 rom was on there, my warranty would be void?
cheers,
James
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Hi James,
The version numbers are relative to each other and Qtek's 2.2 is a better version based on a more recent WM5 release.
Regarding warranty, well, you'd have to check what Imate's policy is. I never had an imate myself but I had a similar experience with a T-Mobile device. I sent it back for repair under warranty and it had another carrier's ROM and they didn't complain. But Imate's policies could be different.

Thanks heaps kta. Very informative. I'll contact i-mate.

Quick question...
Does anyone know if qtek's 2.2 ROM has the laggy SIP switch popup issue?

Related

Upgrade questions (I have read old posts :)

Hi,
I went through a lot of old posts, but still have some confusions that hopefully you guys can help me out.
I just brought a used imate jam 900/1800/1900 last week. It's running ROM version 1.03.00 WWE Radio version 1.01.00 ExtROM version 1.03.141 WWE. I wanted to upgrade the firmware but i don't have access to imate.com. The guy who sold me the phone had already registered the IMEI # and I'm having problems contacting him.
I have some questions regarding the upgrades.
1) I checked the xda ftp site for new ROMS under Magician/Shipped ROMs folder, but i'm not sure if the ROMs are brand specific. (Imate/Qtek/Mini?) Is there any listing of the different shipped versions of the ROM. (I have seen something like that on a wiki page for Blueangel, but cannot find one for the magician) Does it matter if the phone band is 900 or 850 when you apply the ROMs?
2) If I don't want to go through the patching of the ROM (Since i'm still new to it), is it true that if i find the right brand/version of the shipped rom update that i can just run the upgrade exe file to flash the ROM and I'll be fine?
3) I read a lot of old post regarding backup/upgrade. It seems to be that the d2s command without supplying the address will only backup the ROM but not the ExtROM or Radio. Does anyone know what the correct series of commands to backup everything? The ones that i saw seems to be XDA II specific, and i thought the Magician has a different ROM layout (I saw it somewhere on the wiki page)
4) In general, any things to watch out for while doing the upgrades? What is the most stable version so far? I have heard that 1.11 is more stable than 1.12.
Thanks a lot guys. I can't wait to upgrade my phone b/c i'm deferring all my installs until after the upgrade so i'm using it purely as a phone now but still liking it.

Hard to find: Current best ROM (newest)

May I ask what is the best/newst ROM to use on a QTEK S200? Its hard to find out here what is new, newer or older...
purp said:
May I ask what is the best/newst ROM to use on a QTEK S200? Its hard to find out here what is new, newer or older...
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Yes, that's what I'm wondering too, can someone please tell us what's the best english rom out for this phone?
I guess we all are on same boat, trying to find the best available ROM for prophet after WWE offcial ROM as its been quite a while for offcial ROM upgrade for this device.
Check the FTP
There are several cooked ROMS avail. There are several 2.3 versions, and the 3.2 Beta is also out. Do a search. As for which is the best, it depends entirely on you. What I do is READ & READ, until I get an overall sense which is the fastest, most stable etc. In the end, what many people say is best for them, may not be good for you.
But like you, I've been usin the Dopod official ROM since May, and feel it's time to inject new life into my device.
If anyone care to give a short review of the ROMs they've tried in this thread (or make a new one), it'll definitely help a lot of people...
If you love aku2.0 customized rom in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269313, I bet you like this AKU2.3 customized rom.
ftp:/ /xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Prophet/Prophet-roms/RUU_Prophet_G3_2151327_AKU23_023021_P12MB_Dopod_PDAMobiz_v103.rar
(To download above link, copy url to your browser, delete space between ftp:/ /)
Software listed pictures check at http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60019
It's AKU2.3 with extended rom as same as v.1.02, fast and stable.
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But if you would like lots of application, check at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277474 (MMS missing, but can be get in that thread)
See the pictures here http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68751
You may choose 8mb or 12mb (less problem from users feed back).
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
I am using 4PDA/Frog's 2.3 ROM from the FTP site. Its fast and stable. The problem I had with the PDAMobiz rom was its full of stuff and made to device slow, also it reset sometimes on its own. Also the backlight would come on for no reason.
I have tryed all the ROM's from the FTP site and this is the best IMHO.
File name :
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
austin.tovey said:
I am using 4PDA/Frog's 2.3 ROM from the FTP site. Its fast and stable. The problem I had with the PDAMobiz rom was its full of stuff and made to device slow, also it reset sometimes on its own. Also the backlight would come on for no reason.
I have tryed all the ROM's from the FTP site and this is the best IMHO.
File name :
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
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hi,
is this rom also for a german XDA Neo with SPL 2.xx.001?
Can i delete the files in the extended Rom after install the Rom?
thanks
John
John-Wu said:
hi,
is this rom also for a german XDA Neo with SPL 2.xx.001?
Can i delete the files in the extended Rom after install the Rom?
thanks
John
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I guess this ROM is for G3 device.Could you please confirm austin ?
I also want to know wich rom is the best for me. Ive got a G4 chip. Currently running WWE 2.15.13.27. IPL 2.15.0001
SPL 2.15.0001
Thanks!
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe is G3 only i think. i.e. SPL 2.15.0000
austin.tovey said:
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe is G3 only i think. i.e. SPL 2.15.0000
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hello,
is it possible to update an G4 Device by copy the nk.nbf file from the above package to a "G4 Rom" and replace the existing nk.nbf?
For example in the RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship-NoVendorID Rom?
John
John-Wu said:
hello,
is it possible to update an G4 Device by copy the nk.nbf file from the above package to a "G4 Rom" and replace the existing nk.nbf?
For example in the RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship-NoVendorID Rom?
John
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If you do not really know about it, don't try. Because it might be a possibility to break you prophet, if that nk.nbf has spl 2.xx.0000 inside.
Use itsme pdocwrite to upgrade to G4 by replacing ru.nb with your new os rom. (you have to use command "typho5.exe -x -v nk.nbf" at dos prompt to extract os-rom, check at ftp for typho5.exe tools)
Upgrade utility is in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277474 (look for upgrade for G4)
someone could make about the Roms a sticky thread here. Which is aswell updated
G3 Roms (AKU):
Link
Link
G4 Roms (AKU):
Link
Link
or something link that. will help to find the actuall roms for the right devices better....
Best ROM for Prophet (M600?)
well I can't really answer that can I but I can report the following.
I started off with the Orange oem ROM. Quickly I decided I wanted to get rid of this as I'm not with Orange (and I'm an incessant tinkerer), so I went for the RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship-NoVendorID.
My phone was unlocked using the IMEI-CHECK service (so not sure what they unlocked exactly but it seems happy for me to re-flash it).
I ran with this ROM for maybe 2 months- no real problems BUT I really missed the voice speed dial.
A couple of days back I went for the 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
This seems to be stable so far, a "bit" more responsive maybe, but with the unexpected bonus of having voice speed dial again!!! Yes, this ROM has voice speed dial - hoorah.
So for any of you old Orange M600 users who upgraded but lost the voice speed dial this could be for you.
I've not spotted any major problems at all. The only odd thing was that the COMM Manager hard key was not bound. A 2 sec job to fix that.
Now I did do a soft reset before letting the hard reset process finish with the customisations. No idea what happens there in this case.
I <believe> my phone is G3?? The IPL is 0000 - is that correct?? I read and checked everything I could and it seems to have turned out OK.......
Is there any way that someone could do up a quick, idiot proof tute on how to update your rom on a G4 device?
Also, is this AKU2.3 rom 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe in russian or english? The website link which shows the AKU2.0 version is all in russian...
Thanks guys (from another n00b)

Help for a starter!

Hi guys, I am a new on ths forum and with te prophet. After using a hima for 3 years, I bought a prophet today. Since I was at wm2005 aku 3.5 with my hima, I cannot use my pim.vol any more with my current rom version, which is
Rom version 2.9.7.24 WWE
Rom date 2/9/2006
Radio 02.07.20
Protocol 413.1.03
Extrom 2.9.7.106
This is all new for me and I am hoping that someone could post me or PM me some advice on newer roms and how to upgrade. I also found a version with G3 or G4. What is the difference and what do I need to use.
This device works different, but it look very nice.
Can I re-use some of my old (hima) applications on this machine?
Thanks very much in advance. I hope to have as much pleasure on this forum as I had on the hima forum!
1. you can get some of the old apps working on wm5 devices, but not all of them.
2. check your device for G3-G4 issue here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=prophet_g3g4_how
3. good thing if you have time to read this: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet
it will answer most of your questions on how to upgrade your ROM. read it three or four times: i'm not kidding - you may ruin your device if you miss something.
If I can hijack this thread for a second... is there any way to backup whatever ROM we have on a CID locked device? cause it seems kinda pointless to have to CID unlock the device (which involves FLASHING a completely new rom, overwriting the old), to open the backup feature at which point is useless since we've lost the original rom.
mr_yellow said:
If I can hijack this thread for a second... is there any way to backup whatever ROM we have on a CID locked device?
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Rom_Dump
why not? just download your original ROM from this site or official site of qtek, jamin or whatever your device is.
afaik you CID unlock the device to be able to flash different ROMs (for example, to flash jamin with qtek ROM) and to be able to return back to your original ROM.

"Official" HTC TYTN II rom??

Hello, I have looked here for the official HTC TYTN II rom. I want the one that came with the device or the latest OFFICIAL rom (I don't think that the 6.1 verisions are official, but maybe I'm wrong). This link lists the official roms, but I am not sure which one is the original one??
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
If I flash the Australia rom, will it work still here in the US? This looks like the latest official rom, but I really want the WWE version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346267
Also, I have a TILT and I am going to HardSPL and SIM unlock, which one do I do first?? I had the 8525 and I remember doing the SIM/CID unlock first I think?
Do I need to use this SuperCID and Security unlock as well if all I want to do is flash new roms and SIM unlock??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Oh, I almost forgot, why do some people post the .rar files and not the .exe, so much easier using .exe isn't it??
Thanks!!
tk123456789 said:
Hello, I have looked here for the official HTC TYTN II rom. I want the one that came with the device or the latest OFFICIAL rom (I don't think that the 6.1 verisions are official, but maybe I'm wrong). This link lists the official roms, but I am not sure which one is the original one??
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
If I flash the Australia rom, will it work still here in the US? This looks like the latest official rom, but I really want the WWE version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346267
Also, I have a TILT and I am going to HardSPL and SIM unlock, which one do I do first?? I had the 8525 and I remember doing the SIM/CID unlock first I think?
Do I need to use this SuperCID and Security unlock as well if all I want to do is flash new roms and SIM unlock??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Oh, I almost forgot, why do some people post the .rar files and not the .exe, so much easier using .exe isn't it??
Thanks!!
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The rom your phone came with if it is a tilt is one of the att ones on the site your first link leads to.
Hadspl and simunlock, don't matter which you do first just make sure you hardspl before trying to load a cooked rom from this site (and trust me it's worth going with a cooked rom over the att variants)
No supercid needed on the kaiser.
rar is much smaller then exe (rar is an archieve that has the files compressed)
Hello there! I just got off the phone with HTC tech support. They say they have no "official" release for WM6.1 and no date for a release either.
Also, they told me the newest "official" rom= 1.56.405.5
And radio= 1.27.12.11
Which is found here: http://rapidshare.com/files/5781641...dio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar.html
Anyone know how to get this in the .exe format?? I am a bit of a noob and I am used to using the .exe format to flash.
BTW manimore, I know what you are saying about the cooked roms, and I would definitely go with them over the AT&T crap; however, I like the look and reliability of the "official" HTC roms, like the one for the TYTN II.
Do we have any official HTC TYTN II roms besides the one above that the tech guys at HTC don't know about??
Thanks for the advice!
Manimore, I just reread your post. I was talking about official TYTN II roms, not anything for the Tilt.
What about this one?
1.83.631.4 (radio 1.27.15.32) Rogers Rom found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364789
Is this also a WWE official release for TYTN II?? What is Rogers??
tk123456789 said:
Is this also a WWE official release for TYTN II?? What is Rogers??
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Rogers is the only GSM carrier in Canada. However, they don't currently offer the TyTN II, last time I checked (I was at a dealer yesterday, and looked on the website as I composed this post), so I'm not sure what to make of this.
Rogers is a weird beast, in some areas they are far ahead of the competition; We have name display (like a landline, you'll see the name of the caller as well as the number, when available), unlimited incoming plans (like Europe, but without raping the person calling you), nation-wide 3G (major markets), but in other areas they are way behind the times (handset selection is pathetic at best, account termination penalties of up to $900, customer service reps are all over the map, from don't-speak-English to telepathic, etc)

HTC S710 ROM update

Hi, I'm new to updating ROM's....
I want to update my S710 from its original ROM version 1.15.405.2 to the one i found on the site: RUU_Vox_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.1_4.1.13.54_03.10.90_Ship.
My radio version is 4.1.13.37_02.83.90. Can I use this update on my phone or not? Does the radio version's need to match?
Thanks
Calandor said:
Hi, I'm new to updating ROM's....
I want to update my S710 from its original ROM version 1.15.405.2 to the one i found on the site: RUU_Vox_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.1_4.1.13.54_03.10.90_Ship.
My radio version is 4.1.13.37_02.83.90. Can I use this update on my phone or not? Does the radio version's need to match?
Thanks
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You should have no problem using this ROM to update your S710 as I used that ROM for a short while when it first came out, I then moved oveer to Dr. Gonzo's New Guava ROM, and I am now using his WM6.1 ROM, been using it since his first test ROM came out and I am now using his latest WM6.1 v1.0a ROM.
Roland
Roland, simple question. What is the advantage of upgrading ROM's? Newer features? Faster software? Just curious I guess. I just got my 710 and wondering whats the buzz with all this rom and 6.1 stuff. Thanks!
Chuck
@ Polarbair
To have the latest on your Vox offcourse.
Just like Rolandh I have updated my Vox with the WM6.1 rom from Doc. Gonzo.
And the new features and the increased stability are great.
Futher more I noticed the response of the software in some areas is better.
So all pro's and little con's.
Chong
The official HTC WM6 Update added a Network Setup Wizard and Office 6.1 to the ROM. Dr. Gonzo's WM6.1 adds Threaded SMS, New Internet Explorer Mobile with the ability to set your own Homepage, a better Home/Today Screen and some extra apps that Dr. G has added and is more responsive and a little bit more stable than WM6, and as Chongie says to have the lates version of WM on you Vox aswell.
Roland
Having only added Gregory's HTC plugin to this phone, if I wanted to add Dr. G's WM6.1, what is the proper way to do so? Is there some precautions I need to take first?
Not much precautions
Hi,
There is not much precautions to take, apart from taking backup of your contacts, that is and making sure that there is battery backup to your PC, so that the update process is not interrupted. Because once you update the ROM, all your data will be erased. Its like formatting your hard disk drive. If your vox is network locked (mine was not) then you need to unlock the phone first. If you download Dr G's latest ROM, then you will find out how to do it (there is a step by step guide that comes with it).
Honestly, if you followed the guide, there is hardly any chance of screwing up. And once you start using the 6.1 ROM, you will surely wonder how the hell could you ever have used the original ROM that came with HTC Vox
Wow, appreciate the awesome explanation! Thanks! As far as locked or unlocked, I'm assuming its unlocked. Bought it off Ebay, stuck my sim card from t-mobile in it, turned it on and worked like a charm! Have heard the term "bricking" phone, which i'm assuming means locking it up, correct? Since I wasnt the original owner, are there certain "codes" or info off the phone i need to get first? You know, like some software info or phone specific info?
Thanks again and am looking forward to upgrading this slow pig that wont update windows!
Off to back up contacts now, lol...............
xda rocks
n all the members are really helpful too
Hi, I'm new to updating ROM's....
S710 from its original ROM version 1.15.402.4 . i try to upday my rom (rosev04) its give error image file is corrupted chack ur update utility plz bro help me how update (its simlock also and tel me how to unlock)
My radio version is 4.1.13.37_02.83.90.
Thanks
Hi, I am new here as i just bought a new unloced HTC s710 with the latest official ROM, I want to know is there any wm6.5 ROM out ther that i can use or a good ROM for it u guys can recommend
Calandor said:
Hi, I'm new to updating ROM's....
I want to update my S710 from its original ROM version 1.15.405.2 to the one i found on the site: RUU_Vox_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.1_4.1.13.54_03.10.90_Ship.
My radio version is 4.1.13.37_02.83.90. Can I use this update on my phone or not? Does the radio version's need to match?
Thanks
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What is the fastest and most stable ROM for the Vox? Opinions? Got one for a few euros so might as well give it a try.
Hello...
i've got a imate jam and its bootloader does not work and the rom 1.13 does not allow me to reinstall wm6.5 can any1 help me
i need s710 update firmwere
thnx in advance
[email protected]$!M @}{[email protected]
waseem.ahmad said:
i need s710 update firmwere
thnx in advance
[email protected]$!M @}{[email protected]
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if you want update with official rom go to ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Smartphone/Vox/ROMs/Shipped/
or at http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=windows mobile&model=Vox
if custom rom look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vox_roms

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