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Mount, Power, GPS and Audio

Ok, I want to use the XDAII in the LandRover for mapping, it is noisy in the truck, I also want to play MP3 WMA files via the car stereo.
I have a Garmin eTrex but am willing to get something dedicated if the price is right.
I want a cradle for the XDAII that will hold it securly,
I want to power/charge the XDAII and GPS
I want to get the audio out of the bottom connector into the front of the stereo (3.5mm socket) for music play back (poss hands free phone too)
I still have various bits of hands free kit from when I used to fix 'carphones' in the early 90's. It would be nice if i can fit a mic in car for voice dial and calls too.
If the info on the tech page is correct on the bottom connector it would appear all is straight forward to do myself, However we all know for the cost of the parts I could by something that would do what i want and more. So what will do it. I am unsure on the XDA to XDAII connection compatability.
Current experiance of produced products is a duel universal mount from memory-map, the GPS fits fine but the XDAII just falls out, not good for £30
Cheers

Hi,
I wish the same thing that you. I would like to use the Xda2 with Land Rover Discovery for mapping together my Garmin 3+.
To do this maybe we have to make a serial and power cable or find someone who can make it.
I think the pinage for xda2 is slightly different than the xda1. In myxda.com they said: "Most accessories are not common to both except for the car charger".
If someone here can help us to know what the correct pinage for xda2 than we can make one.
Or we can buy a serial cable from O2 (I am oredering one now) and check what is the pinage used for it and mix with the car charger adapter.
what do you think about it?

Charger from xda1, serial cable, gps, usb cable (charging problem) all work with xda2, cradle also works but you need to shave a little off the inside or you will mark your xda2. I have an arkon cradle/speaker, 2 usb power jacks, speaker jack with 2.5 to 3.5 converter from xda1, this works with xda2 but the rf break through from the phone to the speaker in the cradle is atrocious, i wish I knew how to fix that problem because when you receive a call you have 10 seconds or more of rf noise before you get to hear or speak to the caller, other than that it is fine and comes with lots of different mounting options.

pinout
When I get chance Ill get my scope on the pins and work it out. Ive had my eTrex working, used the standard serial lead for the XDA2 and the eTrex, just made a null modem adapter to connect between em (info on memory map web site) Works well but you have to dissable beaming as i think they share the same comm port.
I was going to buy the eTrex connector to bare ends from Garmin but it doesn't carry power only data!!! typical. Have thought of getting one of the dedicated GPS units.
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead. Id rather not chop up the lead as it cost silly money.

Re: pinout
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.

XDA connector
I need to find a UK supplier of the XDA connector, this would get the cost down. The easy way would be to buy the in car charger, strip it, mount the charger in the box, replace the cable with one that will do all the connections.
Ill try and play, get it set up and post somthing on here

Craddle for XDAII /MDAII
T-mobile germany sells one for €199, INCLUSIVE of sat nav software and wired mouse
Ready to mount

Re: pinout
Sorry. What is the meaning of PSU?
sublimatica said:
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
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PSU
PSU is short for Power Supply Unit. the bit that powers/charges the unit.
Sorry im not used to multi language conversation.

PSU
No problem!
I will learn a little bit every day

I am also currently looking at my options as like you TDIpower, I am trying to use the XDAII in a noisey landy.
I am interested in the parrot ck3000 which according to the blurb connects your phone etc via a bluetooth unit into your stereo unit. I have not looking into all the issues but I assume you would be able to use the phone/navigation and MP3 via this unit through the vehicle speakers to be able to hear whats going on? Mind you when I'm going a full tilt I can hardly hear the speakers either??
I know a couple of others on here have the parrot unit so mybe they could shed some light on this??
Cheers

sdio fm trasnmitor
i do not know if it is exist (sdio fm trasnmitor) but this will be a good solution for this case!

Hey,
Sorry to bring up old posts, but has anyone found a solution for Mount, Power, GPS (etrex) and Audio?
Dave

Have you seen this one ?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD-SMGF1XDAII
A friend of mine bought one for his iPaq and it's brilliant, just like a cellphone cradle, slide it in, and you are ready to go.

Hi
What you are asking for is available, apart from the sound in the form of the carcomm cradle http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx.
According to the connector wiring on this site you should be abale to get sound from the bottom connector, but what the connector page fails to tell you is you only get sound out o fthe bottom connector during in a call, so its no use for MP3 or Navigation sounds. Currently I am using the jack plug which is a real pain to plug in. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=50643#50643
Re the Parrot CK3000, I have just taken one out of my car as it did not work with the XDA2 if you have installed bluetooth tools. And without bluetooth tools the bluetooth GPS device would not work. Also you cant currently send sound over bluetooth apart from when in a voice call.
If you find a solution to sound from the bottom connector please dont forget to post.
Good luck
JustinP

@justinp: There appears to be A way to get all sound from the bottom connector.
The T-Mobile MDAII Carkit (QTek2020 carkit and the Yeti carkit are the same make) do just that!
Unfortunately I have this (cheaper) XDAII / iMate (Expansys-sold like) carkit wich only give in-call audio via the bottom connector.
There is someting with pin19 and pin9 (I read on the german www.ppc-welt.info forum).
pin19 must be grounded
pin 9 must NOT be connected (it is on some carkits thus messing up proper operation).
Now if someone can verify this!!
:?:

In car usage

The Polaris comes with the HTC unique connector combining both USB and headphone sockets in one.
My problem is this: How can I slip the Polaris into an active mount (such as a Brodit) as well as connect to the car stereo using an audio lead?

From the Brodit web page about the active holder for the Touch Cruise:
The active holder charges your battery when it is in the holder. The charging device connects to the PDA automatically when you put the PDA in the holder. The holder is attached onto a tilt swivel and can be adjusted in order to avoid light reflection. Connects to the vehicle´s cigarette lighter socket, 12/24 Volt. Attach onto ProClip Mounting Platform.
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So it seems that it is not possible to connect the device to audio while it is in the active holder.

This will do the job:
http://www.smartphoneshop.be/product/41082/47090/3361/veripart-3-in-1-converter-htc-extusb.html
I received mine today, I will test this tomorrow!

Mr. Jibe said:
This will do the job:
http://www.smartphoneshop.be/product/41082/47090/3361/veripart-3-in-1-converter-htc-extusb.html
I received mine today, I will test this tomorrow!
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The problem I see is that when you use a splitter (and I see that HTC themselves supply one: Y Cable) you need to connect the splitter into the bottom of the Polaris, but you can't then put the Polaris into the active holder.
The only solution I can see is to use a passive holder, but this then makes everything a bit of a fiddle.
Anyone got any other solutions?

Are there no Artemis users out there who have already solved this problem?

you could try this
http://www.blueunplugged.com/p.aspx?p=120620

How to play music from Diamond in the car?

Is there any way to do this through the power slot (cigarette lighter)? Thanks.

No lol, you will need some sort of connection to your headunit (either via bluetooth [ad2dp] or usb or a line in or something else along those lines)

I use a fm-transmitter in my car for this, there are several different types of transmitters ( bt, cable ).
Just search for fm-transmitters for mp3 players.

Here are some options http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426599

Check this out:
http://www.e2mate.com/en/product_info.asp?id=871
You can buy it on Ebay

CrayZee said:
Check this out:
http://www.e2mate.com/en/product_info.asp?id=871
You can buy it on Ebay
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The connector looks different, the one on the Diamond is flat on the left side and that one isn't?

rpimps said:
The connector looks different, the one on the Diamond is flat on the left side and that one isn't?
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Well, suprise, suprise.
Actually, the mini-USB connector fits Diamond connector though they may seem to be different.

CrayZee said:
Well, suprise, suprise.
Actually, the mini-USB connector fits Diamond connector though they may seem to be different.
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Does it charge the diamond?

Thanks for the ideas, I actually just got the adapter from HTC and I'm gonna go to Fry's this weekend to get a Belkin FM transmitter

cosenzza said:
Does it charge the diamond?
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the Mini-USB is exactly the same as HTC's variation, the only difference is the outside shape, the HTC one is cut down. Both fit perfectly.

for the car buy Parrot MK6000 , it's cheap an has a great stereo sound ...

i use the cassette adapter with a mini-usb to female 3.5mm stereo adapter... works great

mugglesquop said:
the Mini-USB is exactly the same as HTC's variation, the only difference is the outside shape, the HTC one is cut down. Both fit perfectly.
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I just received the FMtalk NT-039_DP (bought it from Ebay) and it DOES NOT charge the diamond when pluged in. The transmitter seems to work well. I have yet to try the phone with it.

I use one of those tape adapters connected to the HTC remote. Works really well as a hands free kit also. Bonus!!

first off beware of belkin just took my back fin horrible if any thing get a kensington hundred if not thousands of times better

I use the y cable which splits the mini usb on the bottom of the diamond to a 3.5mm plug and a mini usb. I then use a car charger into the mini usb to charge the phone while a 3.5mm to phono cable plugs into the back of my head unit, allowing for music, calls and sat nav to all go through the car speakers. Works well and the people say they can here me clearly when using it as a hands free kit.

i use the motorolla T505 acts as a speakerphone and fm transmitter

[Q] Active car-holder for DHD

Hi!
I've been looking around here and there and can't seem to find it, so i figured it's time to ask the guru's
Has anyone found an active carholder for the DHD, which can be mounted either on the windscreen or on the upper side of the dashboard, so it can be used for navigating safely, without taking your eyes of the road?
Thanks!

search in ebay

icematrix said:
search in ebay
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Has only given me passive holders so far, no active ones. Maybe i'm using the wrong search terms :/

http://cgi.ebay.it/Brodit-Active-Ho...s_PDAMounts&hash=item35aea18dda#ht_1382wt_982

You can buy the official HTC Car accessory from their website http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/nl/p_htc_item.aspx?i=205737
it's cheaper then the one on eBay

Aythamie said:
You can buy the official HTC Car accessory from their website http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/nl/p_htc_item.aspx?i=205737
it's cheaper then the one on eBay
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Much more expensive from there.
I order brodit with clips for my 2 cars + move clip to allow moving the unit from one car to the other from here: http://www.dsldevelopments.com/
I placd my order an hour ago so, I cannot give feedback now.

Aythamie said:
You can buy the official HTC Car accessory from their website http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/nl/p_htc_item.aspx?i=205737
it's cheaper then the one on eBay
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But this one is not active

What do you mean by active? That you can move it around, from car, or from its current spot?

Active holders means there is a jack to charge/sync your phone as it's sitting in the dock. This means it will usually have a jack to connect your charger to, or will already have the cables hardwired into it.
Passive holders mean they just hold onto you phone.

I'm also looking for one of these, except i need one that can fit a DHD with an Otterbox case around it

clay420 said:
Active holders means there is a jack to charge/sync your phone as it's sitting in the dock. This means it will usually have a jack to connect your charger to, or will already have the cables hardwired into it.
Passive holders mean they just hold onto you phone.
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ah cheers for that

Does Brodit HTC-DHD active mount activate car panel?
Does the "active" bit also suggest that the 'car panel' app can also be automatically started when the DesireHD is docked ? I'm sure I've seen a setting somewhere within android that can allow this to happen. Does this mount qualify?
I am assuming some pins being pulled high/low etc in the MicroUSB connector when plugged in determine if its a car mount dock or not, so that normal chargers dont trigger the car-panel?
Edit : I've just sent of an email to: [email protected] and asked for clarification. Will advise here when I get an email back from them.
Cheers & Happy New year.
Edit : Response from brodit.se was that the cable does NOT activate the car panel.

Brodit HTC-DHD ... activate nothing at all..only charging :-(

avga said:
Brodit HTC-DHD ... activate nothing at all..only charging :-(
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I think you will have to use an HTC car charger USB cable. The one that comes with S400 brings up the car panel (I use Google's Car Home though) even if it isn't connected to a power source. I think it is the pin config at the micro-usb end of the cable that does the trick.

Best Car Holder + Car Handsfree for Desire HD??

I'm more than sure than this has been asked before, But I've already looked at the forum and I found so many different models of car holders and blue-tooths that I already don't know which one might be the best one.
I'm looking for something nice hopefully minimalistic in design.
I already have a car charger with a double USB connector port so I'm looking only for the car holder and a good blue tooth device...
Thanks in advance to everyone, I know how annoying can it be to see some one asking something that it might have been answered before, really thanks.

I Hv the genius HTC desire HD car charger set (free with my phone) , it hold the phone well , only down size is I need to remove the TPU case every time I use it ...
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Do you have a link to look at it???
Thanks in advance

I use a brodit passive holder with the the specific pro clip for my car, just looks nice and part of the car. For Bluetooth I connect to the parrot add-on for my kenwood set, 1amp car charger I wired in myself. A bit of work but saves trailing cables over the dash.

The genuine brand HTC Desire HD holder is very capable and secure; Clicky You can use the cable with another 12v socket with USB output; Cable automatically activates the Car Panel, which is useful.
I have a Samsung WEP870 bluetooth headset; Comes with lanyard-equipped stereo headphones which you can plug in to the headset, giving you a solution for music too. Sound quality isn't great, but ok for a walk to the pub.

Thank you all I will take a look

do any of you have problems with the phone not being able to see the cable correct? sometimes mine on car dock see the cable as cable ion car sometimes as connect to pc and sometimes a charger, really weird

I got a universal 1 from Amazon, fits any size. Great purchase.

The Modern-Tech In-Car Dashboard Mount is also very handy to hold the phone on your car's dashboard. It's adhesive, you just have to set the phone on the mat and pull it off later. It's not so great for charging though.

Have you looked into HTC Desire HD Herbert Richter suction mounts?

Where can I look at those???

Here's the link.. Aesthetically, I love the way this particular one looks.