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It looks like 900mAh is a joke for more or less serious use. Does anyone know when the extended batteries will be available.
obender said:
It looks like 900mAh is a joke for more or less serious use. Does anyone know when the extended batteries will be available.
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Will there ever be one available??
Read the specification on the box and it states 285HRS standby..
Thats a DARM JOKE..
I charged my phone till 8am morning. (Full Bar)
Send 20 SMS and miss 2 phone calls.. Never use any voice call.
Bluetooth/Wifi/Infra totally disable.
4pm.. I left with only half bar..
So i believe the phone dont even survive for 24hrs!
So how the hell did they get that can of standby time..
Battery Life
i had the same problem , wfter two days it's gone !!
just discharge the battery fully , then charge again.....
I seem to be managing pretty well so far, full charge lasts about a day & a half, but only light to medium use. I noticed after I got it my batt life got better and better each time I charged it. Seems to have leveled off now.
I still think the manufacturers specs are rubbish though!!! but for a 900mAh battery and VGA screen etc. it doesn't do too bad.
CheongKing said:
Will there ever be one available??
Read the specification on the box and it states 285HRS standby..
Thats a DARM JOKE..
I charged my phone till 8am morning. (Full Bar)
Send 20 SMS and miss 2 phone calls.. Never use any voice call.
Bluetooth/Wifi/Infra totally disable.
4pm.. I left with only half bar..
So i believe the phone dont even survive for 24hrs!
So how the hell did they get that can of standby time..
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do you turn you phone off? just the screen offcourse, with the power button?
and do you close all your programs after running? how about weather application? is 3g turned off? do you see a G or H sign above the signal strength?
i think if you do not use your phone, but put it on the table and look at it, you might be able to look at it for 285 hours.
talking time is only 5,5 hours. so that is quite accurate.
after 5 hours my battery goes from full charge to 20%:
- gprs/umts/hdspa syncs every 5 minutes (poll 5minutes, sync 10min)
- used mp3 player for about 15 minutes
- 4 minutes call received
- 2 manual syncs with other pop3 server
memory use between 60-70%
some tweaks would be nice
edit: that's funny, after a soft reset the device shows now 4 blocks (30%)
woetyke said:
after 5 hours my battery goes from full charge to 20%:
- gprs/umts/hdspa syncs every 5 minutes (poll 5minutes, sync 10min)
- used mp3 player for about 15 minutes
- 4 minutes call received
- 2 manual syncs with other pop3 server
memory use between 60-70%
some tweaks would be nice
edit: that's funny, after a soft reset the device shows now 4 blocks (30%)
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yes, you are constantly using 3g networks. that takes a lot of power. read the forum to find solutions for this (automatically disconnect etc)
i know it uses battery..
I used already: qtek 9100, 4350, tytn, touch dual.
All this devices run on battery more then 1 day(same sync settings)
The diamond needs 5-6 hours!
probably these futures use al lot of battery:
- 3D controller
- the processor and memory
energy saving features?
give it time
hopefully seidio will produce some extended life batteries...
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=1428
Extended battery and other charging options (such as a separate battery charger) on the way....
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_phone.aspx?i=163250
How many other redundant threads need being posted on this?
A simple search gives me 4 similar postings....
Mods, time to clean up /or integrate all in one?
Darrenives said:
Extended battery and other charging options (such as a separate battery charger) on the way....
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_phone.aspx?i=163250
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when? can you give me a direct link?
http://www.pdamax.de/?art_nr=hz-265&ausWG=Touch_Diamond
here you can find a 1340mAh battery with backcover for 55€ site is in german.
greetz xTMODx
xTMODx said:
http://www.pdamax.de/?art_nr=hz-265&ausWG=Touch_Diamond
here you can find a 1340mAh battery with backcover for 55€ site is in german.
greetz xTMODx
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That looks good!!!!
Anyone planning an buying this?
Wondering howmany mm it wil add.
There is actually no delivery date, but this is the official HTC reseller (http://www.htc.com/de/where_to_buy.aspx)
xTMODx said:
http://www.pdamax.de/?art_nr=hz-265&ausWG=Touch_Diamond
here you can find a 1340mAh battery with backcover for 55€ site is in german.
greetz xTMODx
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anyone know if they deliver the the UK. or has anyone found an international (english) site selling that... good to see the product is getting out tho...
this is the only one i trust so far: http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=166204
http://wmexperts.com/articles/htc_diamond_hits_fcc_gsm_versi.html
here some interesting about the battery
and here another site with 1340mAh http://www.qtek.ch/fr/produits_HTC/11565.html
i think there won`t be a bigger battery official from HTC...
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i think there won`t be a bigger battery official from HTC...
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Hmmm will i think there will be an oficial htc one, not that it really matters, I just want to get my hands on the first one that works lol.
found this press release:
HTC Introduces New Accessories
Also today, HTC announced multiple accessories will be available for the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro including a similarly designed desktop cradle and travel charger accessory pack as well as an extended battery and slim collapsible case for the Touch Diamond.
(http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=46436)
is this in stock?
https://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=30EB1DEF-CE29-4EA5-B021-E151FCA14D73
Dear all,
I have bought 1800mah battery from easydevices.co.uk and gpsforless.co.uk and both the batteries are showing the status as "Main battery: Unknown". Can any kind soul kindly please post some solution ? I tried replacing some battdrvr.dll with some old one found in this forum , but it dint worked at all and rather started shutting down itself.
Hope someone got their extended 1800mah batteries working properly, can tell me what ROM they are using ?
Kind regards
vj
i'm using swiftblade v4.0 noi problems with the extended battery. try discharging it to zero then full charge it.
purezerg said:
i'm using swiftblade v4.0 noi problems with the extended battery. try discharging it to zero then full charge it.
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Thank you.I will try this soon.
purezerg said:
i'm using swiftblade v4.0 noi problems with the extended battery. try discharging it to zero then full charge it.
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what do you mean by no problem
there is a big problem that the GPS not working with this battery
Perhaps he means without the problem referred to by the OP? As that is what the thread is about, not the GPS issue, for which there are other threads
BOT - I have this issue with 2 spare 900Mah batteries, so it is not confined to the extended battery. Am trying the drain it/recharge it option. Presumably it doesn't matter if the recharge is done when its in the phone or a standalone charger? Thinking about it, I guess it might matter a lot!
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what do you mean by no problem
there is a big problem that the GPS not working with this battery
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i dunno why you guys are having problems with it. mine is working perfectly fine with it. and that includes GPS.
purezerg said:
i dunno why you guys are having problems with it. mine is working perfectly fine with it. and that includes GPS.
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are you sure
you use clove battery ?
Running the battery flat and recharging it didn't work for me
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what do you mean by no problem
there is a big problem that the GPS not working with this battery
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Same here , almost no GPS signal ..
I believe that the back cover face to make contacts that make better gps.
Take a test, raised the cover battery covers and try to launch such as tomtom, you will see that no locks satellites or locks them with a very long time and with a low signal, then put the cover and see which links immediately satellites and a high signal, raised again the cover and see the signal of satellites coupled fall relentlessly until you have a signal low or even absent ...
So the problem with the battery increased from 1800 I think that depends on the cover that crushes not something that runs the gps.
Why not cover the gps does not work well?
Sorry for my English ...
Well i tested a bit.
With original battery and cover GPS is good .
When i put on the other cover GPS is still good .
With the 1800mah battery no GPS dont mather with or withour cover.
What i saw is that the originao battery has some small thing beside the battery connectors , i guess thats for the GPS .
The 1800mah battery doesnt have those .
Well the best is to wait for the HTC more powerfull battery .
If only this thread was about the GPS problem - which is well documented elsewhere!!!
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If only this thread was about the GPS problem - which is well documented elsewhere!!!
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Hmm yes , your right ..
Well there was talk about GPS probs .
Wont happen again ..
ok. i just upgraded to swiftblade v6. and i experienced the problems you guys mentioned. unknown/1% battery issue.
here's what i did. remove the battery for 1min. well, i timed 1 min and it works when i powered it up. update this thread if this method works for you guys.
having trouble with no charge on new battery hope somethign pops up soon
unknown battery
I have the same problem with a 2000mAh I bought from dealextreme. Main batt unknown. Normally I wouldn't care about this but my diamond refuses to charge it.
GPS is working excelent, no lag and the sat aquisition is fast
the "thing" near the battery contacts has nothing to do with the GPS since mine it's working just fine
maybe it has to do with batt recognition? anybody?
garfield0007 said:
I have the same problem with a 2000mAh I bought from dealextreme. Main batt unknown. Normally I wouldn't care about this but my diamond refuses to charge it.
GPS is working excelent, no lag and the sat aquisition is fast
the "thing" near the battery contacts has nothing to do with the GPS since mine it's working just fine
maybe it has to do with batt recognition? anybody?
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I'm using exactly the same battery from dealextreme and never had any issue with it. GPS and battery meter working fine. In fact, I just ordered my second batt and hope to be as good as first one.
Was on Swiftblabe's v7.0, now Pistonripper's 2.0 if thats of importance.
i ended up buying a Ecell travel charger and charging it via the mains £1.99 + £1.99 post from ebay. red light needs charging - green light charged, not a cure but an option, mines only for emergancy power whilst using my golf gps software which runs out after 14 holes
just an option
can any one post the link of the swiftblade that ua saying about..i too have the same problem of main battery unknown..i cant charge and its not showing any status..
what is the swiftblade??is that the rom or radio??please specify and post the link of that particular rom or radio..??im using diamond p3490..with extended battery 1800 mah..
please post the links..
Very cool, this diamond!
Hello everyone,
I have currently problems with 3 original PH17B Batteries for my MDA II and XDA II: the devices shut down mostly at over 20% without any warning - so I decide to buy a new accu with more Power. Is there anyone having this problem too and tried this? I´ve seen 1,2 Ah original batteries and not original ones with 1,5 - 1,7 - 2,4 and 3,6 Ah for the Himalaya and other (2,4 and 3,6 are sold with new backcover).
Is there anyone who tried this other accus and had no more problems?
Would a 2,4 Ah accu nearly double the time I can use this devices?
Would it be certainly that this problem won´t come back with 2,4 or even 3,6 Ah accus?
Thanks very much!
(sorry for my maybe bad english but I´m german - I hope it´s possible to understand everything ;-) )
I have been using a 2500mAh extended replacement battery which comes with its own back cover. The original one that came with the Hima was giving at best 1 1/2 days of use. It had to be charged every night so it won't run out the next day. I've bought 2 replacement 1200mAh since but they had the same battery life as the original. The 2500mAh is giving me a whopping 3 - 4 days of average/heavy use and a more than a week of stand-by time. If you don't mind the bump in the back (which by the way has made my leather/silicon cases unusable) then i would highly recommend it.
P.S. regarding the battery shutting down at 20%, it was an issue on some of the ROMS here but the later ones seem to have fixed that. If you have this problem then try installing Batti app. It was suggested by some previously and I have found it to work when I had that problem.
How strange!
I had bought a 3600mAh extended replacement battery. It have to be charged every day.
The new battery is giving me of stand-by time.
Is it normally?
When I bought it, I expected more.
The pocket pc have a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM.
I used a 3,6 Ah battery for more than a year, and one out of sudden it died.
I figuered out that the connections of the akku packs broke because of the huge dimensions. There are big mechanic forces working on the back of the device while using such an akku. It lasted nearly one week to recharge it, that was fine.
As the title says, and much to my surprise a cheap replacement battery i bought on ebay (http://goo.gl/y4RML) for my Omnia 7 makes my phone reboot constantly when put to charger or USB. Works fine when not charging.
Just out of curiosity, what is the reason for this, other than battery being a cheap replacement?
On a side note, the original battery weights 4.7g more than the replacement, as measured by my perfectly working digital scale i bought on ebay.
BUMP
I just bought another one, same problem. So I'm calling it quits and buying an OEM battery.
Same problem, I try a non original battery and now when I try to charge my original battery my omnia reboot
Decided to sell my Omnia......although I liked Windows a lot, the battery does not charge very quickly, it will not charge above about 90% and I have tried 3 different batteries, 2 or 3 chargers etc. all with the same result. The phone needs either a software update or hardware mods.......Samsung get your finger out and fix this problem......
I also found it very difficult to get a genuine battery, had to buy a 3rd party battery which did not seem as good........
Bump... I also bought 2 cheap batteries for Omnia 7, and had the same problem, although it works ok, when you plug in the charger (or microUSB on PC), after 3-4 seconds the phone reboots. and then boots again, and instantly reboots...leading to an endless booting-rebooting loop. When you disconnect the cable, it's boots ok.
The batteries I got were marked 'Made in China' (made in Korea for the original). Also they had a (slightly) different P/N: EB504465VB (chinese) vs EB504465VU (original)
I have tried to charge the battery when the phone is in Download mode. It works, but I'm afraid that the constant image of the bootloader may burn in the Omnia7 AmoLED screen.
Has anyone found any decent source of replacement batteries for Omnia7 (apart from Mugen, that is very pricey)?
same battery problem, so i bought a charger dock
newfla said:
same battery problem, so i bought a charger dock
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Does that dock charges only the battery? Can nyou provide a link, if you have bought it online? I have found some docks on ebay, but not for omnia7 specifically. They say the y are universal for almost all types of batteries. Do you have a universal one or a omnia7?
I bought this: cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190666195369#ht_4052wt_1134
p.s.: i can't post full link beacuse I'm under 8 post...
Grazie newfl, i found it.
The batteries that came with the dock charger had the same problem, right? What is their Part Number, EB504465VB 'or' EB504465VU?
Part Number is EB504465VB. Yes they have same issue
Have any of you noticed if the battery really is 1500mAh? The packaging says 850, which is ridiculous. Can you get through a day with 1hour calls, some IM, 2 hour music, 1 hour gaming, 1 hour reading an ebook, etc, the usuall?
I'll probably buy an original battery though, as i plan to keep this phone for at least a year more.
The ones I got are very identical to the original, and they say 5.55Whr / 1500 mAh. Their difference is the manufacurer country (original Korea, replacement China) and the last letter of their P/N (thing that might explain their incompatibility).
I didn't have the change to fully test the batteries, because of the aforementioned charging compatibility problem, but I expect my dock charger in any moment, and I will provide comparative results firstly on WPBench, then on real life.
So here it goes:
WP Bench Battery Test
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Settings: Airplane Mode: ON, GPS: ON (forgot it on so left it on for all tries), Brightness: LOW, Backgroung Agents: Disabled (through forcing Battery Saving Mode)
Replacement Battery: 1st:02h 40min 06sec, 2nd:02h 45min 08sec, 3rd: 02h 43min 43sec
Original Battery: 03h 41min 29sec
There is a big difference (original > replacement 34%) that I don't know if it is because of the low actual capacity of the replacement battery (despite its capacity is cited at 1500 mAh, the same as the original battery), or because of the not good charging of the dock charger (although the phone index in every case stated 100% when the freshly charged battery was inserted)
I solve my "Replacement battery issues (phone loop rebooting)" with an hard reset
Mattemoller90 said:
I solve my "Replacement battery issues (phone loop rebooting)" with an hard reset
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I did multiple hard resets while windowbreaking and such, never helped.
d.a.v.o.r said:
I did multiple hard resets while windowbreaking and such, never helped.
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The same for me, still reboots (I tried hard reseting with/without the replacement battery). No luck
Have any of you guys tried this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-2430MA...ccessories&hash=item2572462b5c#ht_2329wt_1139
look legit? 2430mAh sounds awesome! My stock battery lasts about half a day!
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Have any of you guys tried this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-2430MA...ccessories&hash=item2572462b5c#ht_2329wt_1139
look legit? 2430mAh sounds awesome! My stock battery lasts about half a day!
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2430mAh..woooooooow is 62% more than original 1500mAh battery, if you buy this battery tell us your experience
Mattemoller90 said:
2430mAh..woooooooow is 62% more than original 1500mAh battery, if you buy this battery tell us your experience
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It's fake. There is no chance a company being able to squeeze that much power into a battery package the same size. Otherwise Samsung would have included a 2000mah+ battery already!
Blanketnam said:
Have any of you guys tried this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-2430MA...ccessories&hash=item2572462b5c#ht_2329wt_1139
look legit? 2430mAh sounds awesome! My stock battery lasts about half a day!
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The gold brand battery capacity shouldn't be trusted. Like the post above me, there is no way you can cram a lot more mah with the same battery technology while having the same physical size as the original battery. At best you can have 10% more than the original, but from my experience, most of the original battery already maxed out their capacity for their size.
It's a JiaYu G2. Generally they are very well reviewed. Well, she's had the phone for about 10 days and all of a sudden it stopped charging regularly... It charges extremely slowly. Leaving it overnight for 8 hours charges it only about 30%.
Some of what we tried:
Had her do a power off and battery pull and restart
Charge while turned off
We checked the incoming mA via JiaYu's engineering menu (*#59#) and the incoming mA are fluctuating between 200-450. Is that normal? or should it be a more steady number?
Really really really hoping it's the charger and not the phone. Shipping the phone back and dealing with the Chinese on a customer service issue isn't my idea of a fun couple of weeks.
Ummm... Nobody knows if incoming mA fluctuates?
I have no idea, but have you tried another charger? If the source is really what's fluctuating, it sounds like a charger or other problem.
Maybe the battery is bad. You could try a different one, too. I have no idea if that would cause those symptoms, but you could Google it.
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I have no idea, but have you tried another charger? If the source is really what's fluctuating, it sounds like a charger or other problem.
Maybe the battery is bad. You could try a different one, too. I have no idea if that would cause those symptoms, but you could Google it.
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Thanks for your reply. We ordered another charger (from USA) and waiting for it to arrive. Her first language isn't English and she doesn't have transportation, so she's shy to go to an electronics shop.
Another battery would have to be ordered from China. She tested it out with an external charger and it seemed to charge much better than in the phone, but still quite slow... Not enough evidence either way to conclude if it's the battery because it's one of those multi-battery charges where the "pins" can be expanded to accomodate different batteries.... It hasn't been tested with a different battery, so not sure what "normal" charging time is with it.
The phone is only 10 days old...Really hoping it's not the phone... Dealing with Chinese companies on any sort of customer service issue is a nightmare.
What I was hoping was that someone knew about this... Regarding incoming mA from the wall charger... I don't know enough about it... Whether or not fluctuating from 200-500 is normal...
Anyone with a JiaYu G2 could test this out... Or anyone who has "live" mA data read capability through engineering mode or perhaps even "current widget" and can see if it fluctuates...
I'll check that out when I charge tonight if no one else gets back to you. It doesn't sound right to me since my wall charger does a pretty dead-on 2 hour charge at 1000mA, but perhaps it fluctuates and I don't notice (not my area).
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Unfortunately, I have discovered that neither my phone or tablet support monitoring incoming current levels.
One thing I thought of is that perhaps the phone is regulating current so that it is "fast" charging at 400mAh and then going down for the final bit. This seems to be an idea I've heard of before. 400mAh is still pretty low for a wall-charger, though - does it fluctuate all the time, or is there a pattern ? What is the charger *supposed* to proivide ?
I'm thinking about how charging from my computer's USB, it charges at a rate of 500mAh - and that will still charge to 100% in less than a night. Even if it was only drawing 200mAh all night, it should still be fully charged, definitely not just 30% (it would have to have an unheard of high capacity for that to make sense).
I don't know a lot about electricity, but I would wonder if the voltage is wrong or something, maybe ?
Hopefully someone who knows more about electricity will see this.
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Pennycake said:
Unfortunately, I have discovered that neither my phone or tablet support monitoring incoming current levels.
One thing I thought of is that perhaps the phone is regulating current so that it is "fast" charging at 400mAh and then going down for the final bit. This seems to be an idea I've heard of before. 400mAh is still pretty low for a wall-charger, though - does it fluctuate all the time, or is there a pattern ? What is the charger *supposed* to proivide ?
I'm thinking about how charging from my computer's USB, it charges at a rate of 500mAh - and that will still charge to 100% in less than a night. Even if it was only drawing 200mAh all night, it should still be fully charged, definitely not just 30% (it would have to have an unheard of high capacity for that to make sense).
I don't know a lot about electricity, but I would wonder if the voltage is wrong or something, maybe ?
Hopefully someone who knows more about electricity will see this.
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The wall charger is rated for 500mA output... It's within seconds... I don't mean staying steady and then changing at the end.
I really need another battery and a charger. The charger should be arriving within a few days, so we should be to eliminate that as the issue, but if it doesn't fix the issue, still won't know if it's the battery or the phone.
I have a sneaking suspicion it's the phone... but hoping to here some good news here that fluctuating between 250-450 is NOT normal, thus likely the charger... But as you mentioned, even if left at 200 it still should fully charge overnight... Unless the fluctuating is causing the battery to not accept the charge properly... I don't know
What a pain in the ass. I guess there's something to be said for buying local.